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Archive for November 22nd, 2008

#144* – EUkip – Farage & The Prostitute ………….

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/11/2008

#144* – EUkip – Farage & The Prostitute ………….

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!
AS REQUESTED BY ANTHONY BUTCHER, THE OWNER OF WHAT WAS UKIP FORUM BUT NOW, UKIP IS ALL BUT MORIBUND, CALLED DEMOCRACY FORUM ON THE INSISTANCE OF EUkip.
I POSTED THIS FOR HIM EARLIER TODAY.
Correction for EUkip I presume:

Hi,
I have been asked by Anthony Butcher not to claim that
‘Nigel Farage consorts with prostitutes’, presumably at the demand of EUkip.
I unreservedly apologise for making the statement that ‘Nigel Farage consorts with prostitutes’ as Nigel Farage has, I understand, claimed that he did not pay her.

My statement in future will for clarity state:

“Nigel Farage having consorted with the prostitute Liga, as reported by The News of The World, did not pay the whore or so it is alleged by Nigel Farage”.

I trust this more explicit form of wording will suffice for EUkip and the corrupt and bullying leadership team and NEC of EUkip.

Once again I apologise for using the brief version stating:

‘Nigel Farage consorts with prostitutes’ which although clearly and substantively proven true has seemingly caused Anthony Butcher some embarrassment.

I do admit I do not understand why EUkip, against all the principles of UKIP, is seeking to suppress freedom of speech.

I have never stood for office as I am unprepared to be bound by the rigours and criticisms that one would be and should be obliged to be bound by as soon as you are representing others.I trust this helps to clarify the matter.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

Many of you will no doubt remember hooting with derision at the oincredible duplicity and dishonesty when Slick Willie played silly games when he had sex with Monica Lewinski – the more he repeated the statement ‘I did not have sex with that woman’, the more people wanted to know which ones he did have sex with.

The more Bill Clinton wriggled (The More He Enjoyed It?) the more stupid, shifty and dishonest he looked.

I draw no parallels with the statement of Farage’s – BUT that Farage consorts with a prostitute and then makes a big issue involving EUkip in a threat involving EUkip to shut down Blogs & Forums based on the technicality of the fact that HE CLAIMS he did not pay the prostitute just makes Nigel Farage look even more duplicitous and untrustworthy than many of us know he is.

I leave YOU to make the judgement – but in my world you pay prostitutes for the services they render just as you pay the milk man for the milk he delivers and the car mechanic for servicing your car – sadly we no longer have a milkman due in large to EU regulations, I have NEVER consorted with prostitutes for sex of any description – perverse or otherwise.

Further I have no desire to be bound by the requirements of those I represent and have thus shunned public office. I believe you should be unimpeachable if you represent others. No one forces you to seek the over generous income and perks of public office, where it behoves one to act morally with probity and integrity.

Nigel Farage has indiffensably brought EUkip into Disrepute AGAIN with his weasle words as a means of bullying – WE care not whether you honourably paid the prostitute or not, nor how your pleasures and perversions were acquitted.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62
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#143* – Farage DOESN’T Pay Prostitutes!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/11/2008

#143* – Farage DOESN’T Pay Prostitutes!!
Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!
AS REQUESTED BY LITTLE ANTHONY BUTCHER THE OWNER OF WHAT WAS UKIPFORUM BUT NOW UKIP IS ALL BUT MORIBUND CALLED DEMOCRACY FORUM ON THE INSISTANCE OF EUkip.
I POSTED THIS FOR HIM EARLIER TODAY.

Correction for EUkip I presume:

Dear Greg Lance-Watkins,
You have received a warning at British Democracy Forum.Reason:——-Inappropriate Language
Greg, Having just had a major complaint to the hosting company, I would have hoped that you would have toned down the attacks on UKIP a little (or at least phrased them less aggressively). Please try to restrict your comments to relevent criticism to make our lives easier.——-Original Post:http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/ukip-general-issues/54180-fantastic-job-peter-reeve-r-o-post560802.html#post560802

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael McGough


PeterC;Not sure where you get your figs from, but they don’t sound right to me;was there not a period of several months bfore Reeve took over? In any case are you supposed to be releasing confidential info on a public forum? What I do know for a fact is that before Reeve became our Regional Organiser we had no District / Borough Councillors and no Member of Parliament in the Eastern Counties. We do now! (and we would have a lot more if it weren’t for people wasting time, running the party down and attacking the elected leadership).Hopefully the ‘mess’ (a bad choice of word) will be resolved in February.You did say at the hustings that you were not sure which party you would vote for in June,have you decided yet?

Hi,
do you think that in the light of the failure of Nigel Farage’s attempt to create a ‘Reichstag Fire’ moment at the last NEC and the fact that the meeting was such an abject failure where NuttAll, Nigel Farage’s unelected untrustworthy and self seeking little puppet so lost control of the meeting that the Metropolitan Police had to be called to restore order will have any effect in view of the corruption that is clearly endemic in the Eastern Region in EUkip?
You claim Nigel Farage was elected leader but this is downright dishonest to claim. Farage’s staff and cronies in the party like Fuller, Croucher, Lott, Moran lied and cheated with numerous corruptions of the process in fact Douglas Denny was voted out of the role of Returning Officer for his lies, dishonesty, cheating and corruption seeking to favour Nigel Farage.
How can yo possibly claim Nigel Farage was fairly elected – he became leader by corruption and exploitation of corruption.That having failed with the ‘Reichstag Fire’ moment we note that his Bully boys and brown shirts are already mobilising to create fear and intimidation – earlier this evening his sad little muppet NuttAll issued an utterly dishonest threat

to Anthony Butcher, this forum and individuals to desperately try to pretend that the liar, fraud and cheat David the desk Bannerman had been libelled when it is clear he was not.

Similarly stating the irrefutable fact that Nigel Farage is a serial adulterer, drunkard, bully and who consorts with [SNIPPED] can not for a moment be construed as libel as it is true and can hardly damage his reputation his reputation lies in the gutter along with his behaviour, his party and his publicity.
Risibly a part of this odious bullying is the pretence that NuttAll could be considered other than treacherous.This Nazi style behaviour has failed this time due to EUkip’s endemic dishonesty and stupidity.Do you feel that the agenda being drawn up by the odious treacherous, corrupt and dishonest Derek Clark aiming to set aside the constitution on the pretence of infiltration that you have shown is designed for EUkip’s own ‘Kristall Nacht‘ a night of the long knives where the corrupt, including liars like yourself can remove those who stand in your way standing on principle, integrity and honour.Aren’t people like you, Andrew Smith, David the desk Bannerman ashamed to behave so dishonetly?Have you no morality, integrity or shame?
In some contempt at such odious people.
G.L-W.
Warnings serve as a reminder to you of the forum’s rules, which you are expected to understand and follow.
All the best,
British Democracy Forum


Hi,

Thanks for your REQUEST Anthony as clearly since this is not a Warning merely a statement of your wish rather than the rules of the Forum as I have understood them it is merely a request.
Please can you advise what inappropriate language I have used in some detail so that we all know where we stand – rather than selectively PMing me on a public matter.
Please can you advise the extent and reason why you do not wish the truth to be posted on your Forum.
This is a political Forum and this is, I understood the correct section for discussion of UKIP – that I have stated the truth and facts as I see them over my signature and am able to substantiate those facts should EUkip wish to take action and discuss the possibility of my telling lies for them and suppressing the truth then it is for them to do so – they know where I am and who I am.
I am speaking for myself and over my signature and believe that every comment I have made is true and accurate – and I amm happy to provide provenance.
As with my statement that I believe Tom Wise has committed fraud based on the fraudulent documents he and Lindsay Jenkins signed to ‘obtain’ money and the fact that his bank account was deliberately set up to mislead and that he embezzled money which is all clearly visible in the hard copy evidence I have supplied to the police and have offered anyone sight of if they contact me.
You may well recal that the very first time I accused Tom Wise of fraud I offered you sight of the relevant documents.
I note you have seen fit to censor my post perhaps you will explain why you removed the word, which as I recall was ‘fraudulent’ – perhaps you can explain why you want the fact suppressed that Derek Clark acted fraudulently and boasted of it at a public meeting at which one of your own Moderators was present.
I may have said he was duplicitous, dishonest and underhand which is easily proven or that he had betrayed the peoples of these United Kingdom and the agreement he signed undertaking to work towards greater subsidiarity of these United Kingdoms to the EU is readily available on the pro. EU Ind.Dem.Group web site, as is the fact that Nigel Farage colluded in this betrayal of the peoples of these United Kingdoms.Perhaps – having taken a robust and honest line in response to the corrupt and dishonest bullying of EUkip you might care to explain why you seem to have become their errand boy.
Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#142* Prof. Farage & How To Make A Horemone

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/11/2008

#142* Prof. Farage & How To Make A Horemone

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

AS REQUESTED BY LITTLE ANTHONY BUTCHER THE OWNER OF WHAT WAS UKIPFORUM BUT NOW UKIP IS ALL BUT MORIBUND CALLED DEMOCRACY FORUM ON THE INSISTANCE OF EUkip.

I POSTED THIS FOR HIM EARLIER TODAY.
Correction for EUkip I presume:
Dear Greg Lance-Watkins,
You have received a warning at British Democracy Forum.

Reason:——-Inappropriate LanguageAs I said last time, please be careful in what you say. Claiming that Farage consorts with prostitutes is unproven – it is your interpretation of the spanking incident.

Since he didn’t pay her for sex, I don’t think that it is appropriate to make that implication.

Quote: Paul Nuttall plans to move against GLW.Originally Posted by Bob FM I think it is right that anyone who posts things as ‘fact’ should have to prove that fact. Anthony is right to take note of this.

Do You Think He Is A Big Oaff
or is it a little room he’s talking to?

Hi,

so you will be apologising for your lies about me since you can’t source an substantive provenance.You will have noted EUkip shot you in both feet with your claim that I had hacked their web site!
I didn’t notice your apology.Can we have this statement from The BFM & EUkip sourced and an accurate quotable substantive source.Particularry in view of the proven lies and dishonesty of EUkip’s leadership team under its present duplicitous and untrustworthy leader Nigel Farage & his deputy the serial liar David the desk Bannerman.
Particularly in the light of their apparent determination to destroy freedom of speech to control the truth about them reaching decent people UKIP preparing legal action against this forum?.As answered by Anthony Butcher at: UKIP preparing legal action against this forum?
Especially in view of the present efforts of EUkip to control the fundamental right of citizens to destroy freedom of speech under the leadership of rogue elements within UKIP to destroy the principles of the informed founding grass roots members.
There is no doubt an effort by the corrupt and bullying EUkip leadership of the drunkard Nigel Farage an adulter, who consorts with prostitutes and proven dishonest all of which have been proven in the media.
He would seem to have engineered a ‘Reichstag Fire’ moment at the last NEC backed by his team of lickspittels and has formed what seems to be a group of ‘Brown Shirt’ bully boys to intimidate the decent folk in UKIP to gain dictatorial powers note the dishonest and misrepresentative claims of his apparent little unelected puppet Paul Nuttal, who from his photo possibly has that strangled rather manic look from the discomfort!
Further details can be found on my blog at: Caterpillars And ButterfliesSpecific details of EUkip’s efforts to DESTROY FREEDOM OF SPEECH & explanation as to why the efforts are corrupt, dishonest, bullying, vexatious and mallicious can be found at:
Caterpillars And Butterflies: #141* – EUkip’s NuttAll Issues Party Suicide Note!The untrustworthy Nigel Farage (as proven in the media in that having given an undertaking and also issued an instruction hypocritically and duplicitously paid his wife £25,000 from money available to EUkip under his control via the pro EU Ind.Dem.Group) Anyway this corrupt and dishonest little drunk is aided and supported by the fraud liar and cheat David the desk Bannerman who has repeatedly and fraudulently lied about who he actually is.
Regards,
Greg L-W.
for the record I am
Greg Lance-Watkins
of 8 Middle Street,
Chepstow,
Monmouithshire,
NP16 5ET
Great Britain.

I post over my name and do not seek to post behind the skirts of others nor use a false name – I endeavour to check my facts and have corroborative evidence.

I VALUE FREE SPEECH
I am and have been for many years a supporter of UKIP and am strenuously opposed to membership of the EUropean Union which I consider to be an evil, centralised, undemocratic and corrupt organisation which will CAUSE great misery for mankind through famine, warfare and mankind’s inate desire for liberty.

I utterly oppose the revolting behaviour of the leadership team and its muppets that has dishonestly and corruptly seized control of UKIP and debased its principles as EUkip for their own gain and that of their masters.G.L-W.Warnings serve as a reminder to you of the forum’s rules, which you are expected to understand and follow.

All the best,British Democracy ForumPlease accept my apologies I had always understood that a prostitute was a person who had sex, in whatever form, in return for money – which clearly the prostitute Liga did.In this context I undertake not to use the term ‘prostitute’ in his relationship with the prostitute without making it very clear that he claims he did not pay her Nigel Farage consorted with, without making it very clear that he claims he did not pay her, on your forum again.

I am astonished that he seems proud that he used her services but would seem to have defaulted on payment.

It must have been clear to Farage however drunk he was that no stranger little older than might have been his daughter would have performed such services for pleasure or even out of pity – I’m puzzled but I am happy to clarify the matter as you request.

Please let me know if there is any other phraseology or word for which you require clarification, since these new words seem not to be in your forum rules I take it that each word added will be merely a request and not some sort of warning as an underhand way to engineer an excuse to ban me for EUkip, so that the truth about EUkip can be muzzled by a denial of the Right of Freedom of Speech, as clearly that would be shamefull and dishonest.

In that I used the word ‘prostitute’ correctly in its normal meaning for a woman who is paid for sex and that my statement Nigel Farage consorts with Prostitutes is 100% true – I merely failed to point out that ‘he claims’ he did not pay her – my statement being clearly accurate I take it that in fact this is not a warning.Please let me know if there are any other words that require similar clarification and I will clearly be happy to clarify.

There used to be a rather bad schoolboy joke:

Q. How do you make a hormone
A. Don’t Pay Her!
Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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