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Farage & His Sex Life Paid for By UKIP / EFD & Tax Payers it seems!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 15/03/2014

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so far I have refrained from providing the facts on this story on my blog as much of it has been put in the hands of journalists and I feel it would be exceeding poor manners to draw attention to the facts that they have been given, in an effort to clean up UKIP, and publish on my blog before they have had the opportunity to publish the stories.
However you will note almost all of the facts that are coming to light at the moment have been published on this blog in some detail over the years, and unlike others whop are openly being quoted no one can legitimately or plausibly believe I am some sort of embittered anti UKIP troll who had their ambitions thwarted as I have never been a member of UKIP nor any other political party and have repeatedly refused to stand for any political office over the years – frequently making the excuse that I wouldn’t want people to think I was that corrupt! ;-)I was never interested in a job employed by UKIP and clearly as I was not interested in a sexual relationship with Farage nor did I wish to join his claque clearly the chances of preferment in UKIP would have been loaded against me it seems!I did tweet some time ago:

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Interesting to note at least one other sexual partner of #Nigel_Farage‘s is on the #UKIP / #EFD payroll funded by tax payers – Chav central!

 

 UKIP: backing the wrong man 

 Friday 14 March 2014

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The Nigel Farage story has moved on today, but is by no means abating. The media, however are moving away from the slightly risky territory of the UKIP leader paying a former mistress and onto the very much safer ground of him paying his wife, Kirsten, out of his secretarial allowance.

(G.L-W comment: The story which was posted on this blog years ago when Daniel Foggo broke the story in The Sunday Times.)This is where the Financial Times stands, while the loss-making Guardian has resuscitated a video clip, with Farage stating that an MEP could earn as much as a Goldman Sachs banker through claiming expenses and employing his wife.That was part of a longer documentary, Enemy Within, screened on BBC2 in 2000, at a time when there were only Michael Holmes, Jeffrey Titford and Nigel as MEPs. That was the time when the MEPs were pledging to put their surplus expenses into a fund to help people stricken by EU red tape, with a promise that wives and other relatives would not be taken on the payroll.

(G.L-W comment: Many will remember that Farage loudly proclaimed giving £11,000 to The Metric Martyrs however, as they are happy to confirm, never receioved ANY money from Farage, Titford or UKIP.
Farage & Titford were found guilty of fraudulent use of tax payers money and were ordered to repay £11,000 – that time!)After yesterday’s epic front page headline from The Sun, demanding, “Did UKIP with your aide Nige?”, on the back of a page 5 story, the Daily Mail repeats the allegation today that Farage had an affair with Anabelle Fuller, who returned to Farage’s personal payroll last year.The paper thus asks, “Could Nigel Farage’s ‘weakness for women’ be his Achilles’ heel?”, declaring that: “Ukip leader’s love life may be his undoing at May’s Euro elections”.

However, a piece on Huffington Post rehearses yesterday’s story, but is notable for some of the comments which suggest that Farage’s private life is his own affair, and nobody else’s business. That is fair enough comment, or would have been until Farage decided to mix business with pleasure. Then it becomes a legitimate public issue.

(G.L-W. comment: It is far more the business of voters, tax payers and EUroSceptics more than any as he has clearly employed a number of his sexual partners on the payroll people whose talents are clearly other than as researchers, PR or politics in general which probably explains why UKIP is so lacking in competent research & gravitas. Particularly as the UKIP leadership mantra known well to many has always been ‘What happens in Brusells stays in Brusells’.)And Farage has most certainly been mixing business with pleasure. I recall once walking into Farage’s office in Strasbourg, only to find him in a passionate embrace with the latest intern, while Kirsten was actually in town, with his newly-born child.
(G.L-W. comment: How discreet of Richard when the fact is in the office Nigel Farage was caught in delicto flagrante with a French intern who it was common gossip he passed on to Paul Nuttall when he had ffinished with her and put her on the payroll – Her name is well known, however there is no value in naming her as she like annabelle Fuller are just using their notable assetts for financial gain it seems and are not alone in UKIP.They themselves are of little or no significance beyond the fact they are on the payroll for abilities other than political competence it seems.)Later, we – the staff – had the embarrassing experience of having a fiery Kirsten storming into the office to demand from us information on what was going on. But far from being repentant, Farage gave the intern a full-time post. It thus became evident that the way to success for an attractive female was via Farage’s bed.

Very much later, the Daily Mail tracked down this former employee, but she refused to spill the beans, then having her own career to think of as a full-time Brussels functionnaire. That left the paper without a libel-proof story, so the details were never released.

As for Annabelle Fuller, her relationship with Farage was an open secret. Such was their lack of caution that Farage had to be warned several times about making it too overt. He was, for instance, cautioned against taking her to Washington for a long weekend at the taxpayer’s expense. But he never denied to friends and colleagues the nature of the relationship.

(G.L-W. comment: Were Farage an honest man he could confirm I warned him of the danger and advided him not to take her as he would be setting himself up – he took my advice and at the last minute dropped her from the trip.)

Once the newspapers started to pick it up, though, both emphatically denied their tryst, making ample use of the services of no-win, no-fee legal services. More that a few journalists fell foul of the Farage sting, leaving a legacy of ill-will that could only bode ill.

The show-down with the long-suffering Kirsten, however, could not be put off forever. More than once, she had locked him out of the house when he had returned in the small hours from his drunken, womanising binges, and with one expensive divorce already costing him dear, he could not afford another.

The question thus remains as to whether Farage did a deal with public money. At the moment, no one is saying, but not a few in the party have been asking whether paying Kirsten her £30,000 salary was “hush money” for putting up with Annabelle. There had to be a reason for breaking all the promises ever made by UKIP about not hiring wives.

But now, even Mz Fuller is back on the payroll. I think we are also entitled to know if that is because she knows where too many bodies are buried. For whatever reason, a woman with an erratic background and little to commend her, is being paid a stellar £60,000 salary by Farage – plus additional fees to her PR business. 

Thus, the UKIP leader is paying his women as good as £100,000 a year from taxpayers’ funds. And it is that, not his sexual peccadilloes, which is rightly in the public interest. We, like The Sun, are entitled to ask questions about these employments.

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The point, of course, is that secretarial allowances are to enable MEPs to service their constituencies and perform effectively as elected representatives. For that, research is essential, an area in which UKIP generally – and Farage in particular – is dismally lacking.

As a former researcher for Farage’s one-time group in Brussels, the EDD, I know only too well how vital the research role is. After I left, the role was never properly serviced. Bloom even sought my services again, but I recall my response being: “not even if hell freezes over”. I now work as a researcher in a private capacity, for some decent men.

But I am very far from being the only competent researcher in the business. And for £100,000 a year, Farage could buy some serious capability. How much of the low-grade output coming out of UKIP is the result of his spending taxpayers’ money on keeping his women quiet?

If he had done as I had suggested, and taken a like amount from the expenses of each of the UKIP MEPs, with additional group funds we could have set up a world-class research unit in Brussels, relying on the overhead being paid for by the European Parliament.  The aim was to rival the famous Conservative Research Department, the unit which kept Margaret Thatcher in power.

Despite all sorts of malicious rumours and ill-informed gossip, that was the real reason Farage and I fell out. I wanted the party to be research-led, pre-empting the FUD, keeping our MEPs and members properly informed and making a solid, unimpeachable case for leaving the EU. That’s why, in the first instance, Booker and I wrote The Great Deception, a book Farage did his best to sabotage, seeking to prevent it being published.On the other hand, he was already frittering away money on fruitless enterprises, on hiring his women and on topping up his already generous pension from his office expenses. The courageous Spiked online, meanwhile, deletes my comments on its own sycophantic piece, even as the sky darkens with pigeons coming home to roost.With the likes of Spiked and others giving him an easy ride, Farage has got away with it for so long that he believes he can walk on water. But now, a number of journalists – who have also had to put up with a number of more sinister threats than just libel suits – have found ways of showing that he is just another opportunist politician on the gravy train.

That, of course, leaves UKIP members out on a limb. Yet Farage, in his own defence, asserts that his supporters “have had to develop thick skins and brave resilience when dealing with ‘smears'”. By this means, he dismisses the recent press as “part of a concerted campaign to undermine us which just makes us dig our heels in and wave off the Establishment”. But it won’t wash.

This is exactly what one might expect of Farage, but those who wish to dismiss current events as “smears” need to grow up. It is a miracle that their leader has got away with it for so long. He has held hostages to fortune for so many years that it was only a matter of time before he got his comeuppance. If hadn’t been this, it would have been something else.

Nor is this the end of it. There is much, much more in the pipeline. By the time the media has finished, the only thing left of Farage’s reputation will be smoking wreckage – however long it takes. His supporters have been backing the wrong man. They need to be thinking about how to rescue the party before it too crashes and burns.

Richard North 14/03/2014
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May I remind readers that Nigel Farage personally gave an undertaking on Meridian TV prior to being elected an MEP that UKIP MEPs if elected would under no circumstances employ wives or family members, having no doubt obtained many votes on the strength of this undertaking it clearly wasn’t long before Farage employed his wife and hi mistresses and other sexual partners.This fact did not come to light until we published the facts which were taken up by the media just as is occurring at the moment as they scour this blog and that of Junius for more reliable facts.
The theft of an MP’s House of Commons Pass, his telephone and correspondence by Annabelle Fuller, whilst enjoying employment courtesy of Nigel Farage, is also proving of interest to the media!If you want more details on these iniquitous abuses of public money I suggest you keep a close eye on the British media, who are giving them the attention they deserves, despite the other important stories in the news at the moment be that Oscar Pistorius Trial, Malayan Airways Missing Plane, Tony Benn’s Death, Russia on the verge of War with Ukraine as it seizes Crimea – yet still you will see the Farage Party featured!We can expect UKIP to make every effort to spin this story be that with Annabelle Fuller trying to draw the fire for her ex lover by bleating about being picked on – No one is interested in her it is her behaviour and that of Farage which is the matter of concern it is Farage who has been all too enthusiastic in lambasting the EU for wasting money and wrong doing.

I note Farage in staggering hypocrisy has been accusing Nikki Sinclaire of being a bitter thwarted ex member of UKIP with a vendetta which is clearly a fantasy face saving effort by Farage.

Farage also claims she acted and named him and his unethical behaviour and abuse of tax payers’ money as an act of cowardice, by acting under Parliamentary Privilege,  which is a bit rich when you consider the use of Parliamentary Privilege particularly when he exposed Barrott’s offences.

For the moment I will leave readers to follow up on the facts in the media, including the dishonest denials and lies of Farage!

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Another Report of a Bent UKIP Councillor

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 26/02/2014

Another Report of a Bent UKIP Councillor
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Another Report of a Bent UKIP Councillor! It is not that UKIP is unique in having bent Councillors but it is the staggering percentage of the tiny number they have that is News Worthy!

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it is not that UKIP is unique in having bent Councillors but it is the staggering percentage of the tiny number they have that is News Worthy!Yet further proof of UKIP leadership failure and its shambolic unprofessional selection process – you only have to look at the remarkably low caliber opf its MEPs, staff, NEC, Councillors and even the shower they have lined up as prospective MEPs hand selected by the leadership for the EU elections in May!

Here is one of the longest serving, who was ditched by a meeting of his full UKIP Regional Committee as unsuitable and as a result of the facts led by his wife of inappropriate behaviour with their daughter whilst bathing with her! Yet was immediately reinstated and given a full time job by Nigel Farage!

UKIP SW must be so proud of Nigel Farage’s choice

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Some may remember the hillarious comment made by Elizabeth Becket a UKIP NEC member at the time, who was on the regional committee when she tried to do Farage’s bidding with the statement:
‘But in a nice warm bath don’t all men get erections’! and bear in mind she used to be a nurse many moons ago!
Farage’s yes man who chaired the meeting was Malcolm Wood who valiantly tried to hide the corruption!

Council leader slams former mayor’s ‘hypocrisy’ over attempted land deals

Cheshire East Council to probe the conduct of Ukip councillor Brian Silvester

Councillor Brian Silvester.

A Cheshire East councillor who  has been campaigning against development in the green gap has  been trying to promote his own  open countryside land for housing, the  Chronicle can exclusively reveal.

Ukip councillor Brian Silvester has  been trying to strike a deal with Richborough Estates, a strategic land promotion company, for a 20-acre site he  owns with his brother in Shavington.

The Chronicle has obtained copies of  emails the Willaston and Rope councillor sent – from his Cheshire East  Council email account – to the company.

The emails show that Cllr Silvester,  who has been campaigning against developments in and around Crewe because, ‘maintaining the green gap is a  massive issue for residents’,  has been  trying to cash in on his own countryside  land by getting Richborough Estates to  promote it as suitable for housing.

When approached by the Chronicle  about the matter, the Willaston and  Rope councillor said it was a ‘storm in a  teacup’ because he jointly owned the  land with his brother and some of the  site, at Shavington House Farm, Crewe  Road, was brownfield. Richborough refused to promote Cllr Silvester’s land,  which could accommodate about 150  houses, for development.

In an email sent to the Ukip councillor  in September of last year, company  director Paul Campbell said: “We consider your site to be a step too far in  eroding the gap between Shavington  and Crewe.”

The email continued: “As a business  we will only pursue sites that we feel are  logical and technically sound and,  frankly, we believe your site would  cause significant landscape impact.”

He suggested if the councillor  was unable to find anyone else  willing to put in an application for him  ‘maybe you could put an advert in the  Crewe Chronicle if you’re struggling’.

The first email the Chronicle has seen  in relation to this is dated November 29,  2012, and was sent from Cllr Silvester’s  Cheshire East email account.

It is addressed to Richborough director Paul Campbell and reads: “Paul,  Wain Homes have won their appeal to  build 80 dwellings off Rope Lane in the  Green Gap. Are you still interested in  our land on the Shavington side of the  bypass in light of this rather surprising  decision? With best wishes, Brian.”

On December 3, when the company  director replied he might be interested,  Cllr Silvester emailed – again from his  Cheshire East account – “I think there  is a good window of opportunity for our  site now but we need to move quickly  before it closes. In light of that we have interest from a number of developers, so speed is of the essence.”

On December 7, 2012, Cllr Silvester  emailed again: “Paul, Would you be  interested in putting in an application  now?”

On January 18, 2013, he emailed yet  again: “Paul, What level of option fee  and contribution towards our legal  costs would you be willing to offer?  What period of option would you require? Would you apply now for all the  20 acres or for a smaller area?”

Richborough Estates declined in  September of last year to go ahead with  any deal because of the sensitivity of the  site and after learning Cllr Silvester had  written a letter to Willaston residents  asking them to object to its (Richborough’s) application off Moorfields.

Mr Campbell emailed Cllr Silvester to  say: “Given your objection letter to all  the residents of Willaston asking them  to object to our application off Moorfields, I am afraid that I am going to  have to decline promoting your land  at Shavington. This is partly because you have gone out to try and  seek people to object to our application on the grounds of green  gap when your site is also green  gap, which is a rather inconsistent  and self-defeating  position to the one  taken on your own  land, but also because we consider  your site to be a  step too far in  eroding the  gap between  Shavington  and  Crewe.”

 

Councillor said he wouldn’t stop his brother cashing in

Ukip councillor Brian Silvester has told  the Chronicle the Shavington site in question is jointly owned and it would not be  right to stop his brother from trying to cash  in on the land.

Cllr Silvester also claimed the site is  partly brownfield ‘and development is encouraged on brownfield sites’.

When the Chronicle pointed out the rest  was green gap, the councillor again repeated he owned it in partnership with his  brother.

“The land is not in my sole ownership,”  he said. “I can’t stop my brother doing what  he wants to do.”

When asked by the Chronicle if he was a  50/50 partner with his brother, Cllr Silvester said he was.

When it was then suggested that it would  be difficult for his brother to go ahead with  a scheme without his consent if they were  equal partners, the Willaston and Rope  councillor said: “It would not be right of me  to stop my brother doing what he wants to  do. That would be wrong. If he wants to  proceed that’s up to him.”

Cllr Silvester insisted he was justified in  campaigning against countryside development when he was trying to do the same  on his own land.

He re-iterated part of his site brownfield.

“I’m supporting my residents to defend  themselves against the unwanted development in the green gap and on my land,  that is the land owned jointly with my  brother, there has been no application so I  don’t see what the problem is,” he said.

He added: “I think it’s a bit of a storm in a  teacup because there’s no planning application [on his land] and even if there was  I’m only a part owner and part of it is  brownfield.”

The Chronicle asked Cllr Silvester why, if  his brother was the main person behind  the idea, it had been him [Cllr Silvester]  who had made all the contact with the  company.

He said: “I don’t think my brother liked  using email at that time.”

He insisted he had done nothing wrong in  using a council email address to try to  conduct private business involving planning.

“That was only for convenience,” he said,  adding the council allowed its members to  use their council email for personal use.

 

Developer confirms contact with councillor

Riichborough Estates director Paul Campbell  has confirmed to the Chronicle the emails  between himself and Cllr Brian Silvester are  genuine. The Chronicle contacted Mr Campbell  to check the authenticity of the documents before speaking to the Ukip councillor.

Mr Campbell confirmed they were genuine exchanges between himself and Cllr Silvester and  then explained how his company had first approached the Cheshire East councillor about the  land three years ago.

“We would have sent out a whole raft of  letters at the same time to landowners on  the edge of Crewe and the villages,” said  Mr Campbell.

“We get details from the Land Registry about who owns it.”

He said some people respond, others do not.

“Brian got in touch in 2011 to  say he was keen,” said Mr Campbell.

The company director said  everything went quiet for a while  ‘then he started chasing me again  when the Wain Homes decision  came out’.

Mr Campbell said by then he had  decided on another site and when he  learned Cllr Silvester was also campaigning actively against his company  over a Willaston scheme he was  astounded.

“We always found it puzzling – the  stance he was taking against our application when his actions spoke so differently on his own interests,” he said.

 

Councillor fought applications saying green gap was ‘massive issue’

CHESHIRE East councillor Brian Silvester has expressed his  opposition to several planning  applications because they were  in the green gap, despite trying  to secure a deal on his own  Shavington land.

In May of last year he told the  Chronicle he was concerned  about Gladman’s application for  95 homes on land at Audlem  Road in Audlem and an application for a site off Newcastle  Road in Willaston which was  put forward by Emery Planning  Partnership.

With regard to the Newcastle  Road site, Cllr Silvester said he  objected because ‘maintaining  the green gap is a massive issue  for residents’.

This week Cllr Silvester insisted he had done nothing  wrong.

“The emails are well over a  year ago and quite dated.

“I have been working very  hard in the area inviting people  to object to their (Richborough’s) application.

“I have done it for the appeal  and they’re trying to stop me  doing what I should be doing for  my constituents.”

Cllr Silvester also emailed the  Chronicle on Friday to say: “Further to our phone chat, [between  himself and reporter Belinda  Ryan] we [Cllr Silvester and his  brother] own 12 acres to the  north of the A500.

“The developers of Gresty  Oaks approached us to include   our land as part of their housing  development and we declined  because that land is entirely in  the green gap and has no brown  field land at all.”

A few minutes later he emailed  the Chronicle again to add:  “Richborough are having a go at  me because they do not like the  very vigorous way I am opposing their application/appeal for  170 houses  off Moorfields, Willaston, on behalf of my constituents, who are vehemently opposed to the application. Instead  of making the case for their application they choose to attack  me personally, when all I am doing is to defend the interests of  my residents as I have always  done and will continue to do so.”

Cllr Silvester, the former  deputy leader of Cheshire East,  who is also an ex-leader of  Crewe and Nantwich Borough  Council and a former Crewe and  Nantwich mayor, quit the Conservative party in November  2012.

At the time his political future  was being discussed by the  party, following his criminal  conviction the month before.

He and his brother Colin were  fined £45,000 and ordered to pay  £22,000 costs after pleading  guilty at Chester Crown Court  to a catalogue of fire safety  breaches at the building they  rented out as bedsits on Crewe  Road in Shavington.

At the time the court heard  from prosecutor Bernard Thorogood that when fire officers  had carried out an inspection of  the property ‘the risk of serious  injury was so significant that  immediate action needed to be  taken and a prohibition notice  was issued. The circumstances  were such that a fire would have  spread rapidly throughout the  premises’.

Cllr Silvester – who once stood  as a parliamentary candidate for  the Tories – refused to stand  down from Cheshire East despite numerous calls for his  resignation because of his criminal conviction.

He represented the people of  Willaston and Rope for several  months as an Independent before joining Ukip in June of last  year.

 

Council to probe councillor’s conduct

Cheshire East Council has  asked the Chronicle to hand  over the correspondence we have  showing Cllr Brian Silvester used  his council email to try to conduct  personal business with a land developer.

The Chronicle contacted Cheshire  East for a statement after seeing the  emails. Cheshire East Council has  since asked us for a ‘copy of the  dossier as the leader will want to  pass that to the monitoring officer’.

This means the council will now  consider whether or not the Ukip  councillor has broken the council’s  code of conduct. Cllr Silvester has  not acted illegally in any way.

Cheshire East leader Michael  Jones was incensed when he was  approached by the Chronicle. “To  me, this would appear to be  very  hypocritical of Cllr Silvester and I’m  really disappointed for the people of  Willaston,” said Cllr Jones.

“I will now refer this to the monitoring officer because of him using  Cheshire East equipment.”

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Marta ANDREASEN’s Unlawfull Election by: Lynnda Robson

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The Court Judgement against Marta Andreasen in full can be viewed at CLICK HERE

That Marta Andreasen is clearly corrupt, blatantly dishonest and utterly discredited has never been in contention – that EUkip have exploited her dishonesty seems obvious and that the liars, cheats and low lifes can expect reward as a part of The EU scam is clear for all to see!

Marta Andreasen is unfit as an MEP for these United Kingdoms and brings shame and contempt on the due process of EUkip’s own legally constituted rules and so called Constitution. It is clear that EUkip lack the moral compass to find their way home let alone lead anyone forward!

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let us not forget what Lynnda Robson of UKIP who worked for the odious Gerard Batten in his offices in London had to say about Marta Andreasen in the context of elections:

Lynnda Robson – aide to Gerard Batten MEP – warned Farage, Christopher Gill and the NEC. They ALL ignored her:

I am writing about numerous breaches of the Rules for Candidates by three
candidates in London. One of them is Ralph Atkinson, but I will not go
into details as I know Gerard Batten has already informed you about his
activities.The other two are Marta Andreassen and Tim Worstall who I
believe should be disqualified from this election. I am aware that Marta
has decided to run in SE Region but believe that she should be
disqualified in London and her votes reallocated since she was not
entitled to them.


This is quite a long email, I’m afraid, but there are an awful lot of rules being broken.

The reasons I believe they have both breached the rules are as follows:

1. Eligibility (external, under Electoral Commission Rules)

Under Section 4, Becoming a Candidate, of its European Parliamentary Election Rules, Elcom says that candidates must be:

Quote:

A British citizen…. or a citizen of another member state who is resident in the UK or Gibraltar during the nomination period.

Both
Marta and Tim are clearly not UK residents. When asked about this at
the London hustings Marta airily replied she was ‘addressing’ this
issue. Some people I spoke to afterwards interpreted this (possibly
cynically, but in the light of recent developments perhaps not) as
roughly meaning ‘ if I get a high place on the list I will find an
accommodation address in the UK for the minimum time necessary to meet
Elcom criteria’. Tim has apparently said he will move back to the UK
‘soon’. Seems odd since he is reportedly a tax exile who can only spend
183 days in the UK and he is building a house in Portugal for himself
and his family and they are currently all resident there.


Christopher
Gill’s response to this was that he had not bothered to consult Elcom
or check its rules as this was an internal election – unbelievable!


One
would hope that UKIP will not be a party to any breach of certainly the
spirit, if not the letter, of the Electoral Commission rules but
according to Christopher Gill: ‘At a later stage all candidates will of
course have to comply with whatever electoral legislation is then in
force or otherwise be disqualified from standing’ which seems to confirm
the cynics’ idea that an accommodation address will be found for them
for the minimum amount of time necessary.


2. Eligibility (internal, under UKIP rules)

Under
its constitution UKIP restricts full membership to UK citizens and
resident foreign nationals. It also requires its Parliamentary
candidates to be fully paid-up members in good standing.


Marta could therefore not possibly be a full member at the time her nomination was made and must therefore be ineligible.

Christopher
Gill says she is an Associate Member but cannot tell me exactly how
many other Associate members we have in the Party and indeed how many of
them there were before Marta was given this (possibly) unique status.


Certainly
nowhere on the membership application form is there an option to become
an Associate Member. The UKIP constitution also states (16.4) ‘All
parliamentary candidates must be paid-up members of the Party in good
standing…’ – no mention of associate members there, I see.



3. Same Proposer

Marta
and Tim had the same proposer – Lord Pearson. This is expressly
forbidden but Christopher Gill has told me categorically he is not
prepared to take any action as he felt ‘Lord P. was only being helpful’!
Apparently breaking rules is OK if it is Lord P. doing it for Marta and
Tim!


4. CRB checks

All candidates were mandated to have a
full, advanced CRB check (not something vaguely similar in another
country, but the full UK version). Indeed, £41 of the £250 deposit was
for this purpose. So important are these checks considered to be when
identifying suitable candidates that the London Assembly candidates list
was delayed for two months last year because of the requirement by the
leadership, at a late stage, for all candidates to have these checks.
You will all recall Nigel Farage stressing the importance of these
checks and saying that if we had them in place in 2004 they would have
picked up Ashley Mote’s transgressions – therefore it was imperative
that all candidates must have them in 2008.


But to have a CRB
check you need a UK address at which you reside and for which you can
produce utility bills. Once again neither Tim (who I believe can only
spend a certain amount of days in the UK, which would indicate he is
non-resident for tax purposes) nor Marta (who lives in Barcelona) would
have been able to obtain a UK advanced CRB check as neither is resident
in the UK. Why was an exception made for them?


Very odd reply
from CG to this one ‘Marta has never made any attempt to hide the fact
that she lives in Barcelona’!! and ‘Tim lives in Bath’. However, TW told
me that although he owns a flat in Bath this was rented out and he was
living in Portugal with his family.


5. Candidates standing in more than one Region

It
was clearly required that candidates make it clear, both at the
hustings and by other means, if they are standing in more than one
Region. Marta certainly didn’t mention it at the London Hustings, nor is
it in her published candidate details. Many of these members who might
otherwise vote for a certain candidate would be far less inclined to do
so if they knew he/she actually considered our Region second best.


Christopher
Gill’s response was: ‘The point you make about declaring an interest in
another region is well made – in a message to all MEP Interview Panel
Chairmen dated 10th July David Challice highlighted the fact that the
onus was upon candidates to publicly disclose if they were standing in
more than one region. This instruction seems to have been ignored in at
least one other region to my certain knowledge and will feature in my
report’.


What use is ‘featuring in his report’ going to be? The damage has been done and another rule broken.

I
know that the fact the shortlists were published on the UKIP website
should apparently have enabled members to do some detective work and
identify who was standing in more than one Region – but again this does
not seem to comply with the spirit of the rule or why it was made, as
very few of our members ever look at the website, let alone delve deeply
into the members section, and I doubt one in a thousand of our
‘ordinary’ members, as opposed to those of us more involved with the
Party, is aware of multi-region candidates.


6. Electoral Roll number

All
candidates were required to give their UK electoral roll number on the
application form. Unless they have given a false address, neither of
these candidates can possibly be on the UK electoral register.


Christopher
Gill acknowledges this is a problem for MA which should have been
noticed and addressed earlier, although he contends that TW is a UK
resident (wonder if HMRC know this?) but again refuses to take any
action.


From this litany you will realise why many of us are
extremely sceptical about the validity of these two candidates. At every
turn it would appear that exceptions and accommodations are being made,
and rules broken and ignored, to get them on, and keep them on, the
candidate lists. I would appreciate a full explanation of why they were
exempted from the stringent criteria that the rest of us had to comply
with in order to be considered and would ask the NEC to disqualify both
of them.


To paraphrase George Orwell: ‘Why are some candidates
more equal than others?’ I am absolutely sure that if when I had applied
I had said :


I’m not a UK resident
I’m not a fully paid-up member of UKIP
I can’t get a CRB check
My proposer has also proposed someone else
I’m not on the UK electoral Register; and
I have no intention of mentioning I will be standing in two Regions

I believe I would have been very firmly rejected – and rightly so.

Such
chicanery will not play well with Elcom or our other enemies in the
media and the community at large. And there are a number of people
already aware of these facts, and upset about them. Indeed some of these
questions have already been asked on the Democracy Forum – whose
members number many who most certainly do not wish us well – so are thus
in the public domain . This really could badly damage our chances in
the 2009 elections and we should not be putting ourselves in this
position.


I would formally ask the NEC to disqualify these two candidates from standing in London Region.

Please
do not think I have anything personal against Marta – on the contrary,
my limited acquaintance with her has always been a pleasure. And Tim
seems a personable sort of fellow. But rules are being broken and
distorted to keep these two candidates on the list and this is simply
WRONG.I have already informed Christopher Gill that should this request
be ignored then I wish to withdraw from the London list, and whilst I
will do everything to ensure Gerard is elected I will not campaign or
fund-raise if Atkinson, Andreassen or Worstall remain on the List.


I
have also told him that I want my £250 returned as this has obviously
been taken from me under false pretences. The false pretext in this case
being that all candidates would be treated equally and subject to the
same rules, which is patently not the case.
Ends.

After
being sued in the Court for the return of her £250 deposit UKIP paid
her the money, plus costs. However, they refused to admit liability and
said that they were returning her deposit “as a gesture of goodwill”.This
is, of course, complete nonsense. UKIP returned the deposit because
Lynnda asked for documents, including a copy of Marta Andreasen’s
application form and a copy of her £250 cheque and CRB documentation. It
is thought these may not have existed in a form which would have
satisfied the Electoral Commission or UKIP’s Constitution.

Tim
Worstall’s application form would have proved interesting reading since
he was a tax exile living in Portugal and, therefore, could not be a
full member of UKIP, legally pay his £250 donation OR get a CRB check.

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#0775B* – A Continuation On UKIP Corruption

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Well, if anyone does take Junius to court for libel, they’ll need about £80 – 100,000 for a straightforward case.

As for “….UKIP would be able to cite many examples of Junius untruths…”, any idea why they haven’t done that already? Just curious.

I’ve no idea why they haven’t been sued Mr Morson,

This disingenuous specimen is all too happy to misrepresent the posts of both Junius and I and claim they contain untruths deliberate lies and libel yet in the blog I wrote CLICK HERE 
to make the reason abundantly clear so claimed anonymity is OBVIOUSLY not a factor it is the FACT that UKIP’s cowardly posters have totally failed to show a single example of dishonesty, libel or lie that is on either my blogs or on those of Junius – yet UKIP supporters continue to befoul the reputation of UKIP with their cyber bullying, cowardice and lies.

I am speculating the anonymity of the website could be a factor.

In the light of the irrefutable FACT that the likely reason was that ‘veritas’ shows there is NO LIBEL in any posting of mine or Junius which UKIP or its sordid supporters can or have ever shown. To TRY to misrepresent this with ‘speculation’ in this instance is all too typical of the dishonesty of a certain group of UKIP supporters.

I wonder if your hostility to anonymous posters extends to the Junius owner(s)?

Yet again it seems the person passing themselves off with a false identity refuses to differentiate between their own lies, cyber stalking, dishonesty and false accusations which they post sheltering as cowards behind anonymity. Refusing to acknowledge that the Junius blog is reporting backed by fact and has never been shown to be dishonest, consequentially inaccurate, libellous or corrupt.

It is not the factor of anonymity which is beneath contempt it is the cowardly and dishonest use of it made by the likes of Arthur Fonzarelli, Independent UKIP, Skeptyk, Gothmog, Stathan and their ilk to lie, cheat, defame and abuse the fundamental tennets of free speech for which some of our ancestors and even people  today have laid down their lives.

However something Mr Lance-Watkins has highlighted may explain why action can now be taken.

Yet again a dishonest misrepresentation of the FACTS which I posted and the conc lusions which I presented.

Again, I’m speculating but Mr Lance-Watkins has pointed out that all of his blogs have had their URLs changed from a .com to a .co.uk address. The same applies to the Junius one too.

In fact – this is yet another dishonest misrepresentation as I made it abundantly clear that Google’s Blogger system on blogspot.com has ALL been switched to national hosting as with .co.UK including such respected blogs as that of Dr. Richard North see CLICK HERE

FOR THOSE WISHING TO FOLLOW THE EXCELLENT FACTUAL BLOG & OPINIONS OF Dr. Richard North PLEASE NOTE HIS NEW URL:

http://www.eureferendum.com

Indeed, Mr Lance-Watkins seems to lament the change from being ‘US hosted’, presumably so he could hide behind their laws.

Could the anonymised poster be such a fool as to believe this is what I said or claimed – I think not! I believe that the poster is yet again presenting a dishonest self serving misrepresentation.

Maybe now that UK blogs are now UK based, it may be somewhat easier to address possible libels as previously I would imagine that those who may have been libelled may have had to go through US courts to remove blogposts but now that those blogs are UK hosted, they could actually be under UK laws which I think could change things.

UK based postings are subject to the corrupt and undemocratic control of  EU diktat and the new standards of Politically Correct and arbitrary denial of free speech even when true and accurate – abuse made under EU diktat without explanation or justification – we note this in the case of the arbitrary removal of factual postings on The Junius blog, seemingly on the whim of an individual to suppress facts and freedom of speech in an obscene and dishonest manner.

I nor any reasonable person would have absolutely no objection to the lies, defamation, dishonest smears and libels of the likes of Arthur Fonzarelli, Skeptyk, Mick McGough, Skeptyk, Douglas Denny, Annabelle Fuller and many other members of the self serving and corrupt claque currently supporting UKIP’s inept and unprofessional leadership clique being removed as clearly they libel, dishonestly and maliciously defame and constantly harrass those seeking to publish the facts and legitimate ethical opinion regarding UKIP.

per exempio: one only need read the postings of the odious Kevin Mahoney who seemingly passes himself off as Stathan where almost all of his postings are a malicious series of attacks founded on the most febrile of evidence yet made in sordid and dishonest harrassment of Niall Warry – yet as his Forum is clearly controlled by UKIP Anthony Butcher still hosts this odious level of abuse and cyber stalking for UKIP.

As of course is the case with Mick McGough of UKIP’s NEC who has been proven and shown to be a liar and a cheat and has criminally abused the internet to send some 20,000 offensive eMails to my spam filter systems – Yet Anthony Butcher still hosts his malicious postings, lies and defamatory harrassment and he provides a platform for them.

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#0775* – Anthony Butcher’s Forum Still Hosting Libel?

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A collection of dishonest low lifes acting for UKIP too ashamed of their own behaviour to put their names to their libelous claims and cowardly cyber abuse on behalf of UKIP!

Would anyone of any ethical values want UKIP near ANY lever of power in the light of the dishonesty, corruption and self serving behaviour of the liars, cheats and low lifes they are associated with even NEC members like the sordid Mick McGough and his criminal behaviour and lies and he is far from alone – consider Gerard Batten, Derek Clark, Peter Reeve, Paul Nuttal and other liars and racists and the sick little claque of anonymous cowards and perverts!

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    Funnily, the Junius link to you refer to has been removed by Google under legal advice

    CORRECTION the post has been dishonestly removed to comply with EU internet rules seemingly designed to suppress the truth and it would seem based upon a complaint based not on law but on abuse.

    No error or libel has been identified in EITHER of the postings arbitrarily removed and every statement in the postings is verifiable as FACT.

    . Is it possible that Mr Batten has made Google aware of libels in that post?

    If this is the case as this odious UKIP stooge seems to think it is clearly an abuse of his elected office – just as his recent abuse of his position to waste Police time to seemingly try to suppress facts and the truth about his apparent incitement to racial hatred based upon his personal superstitions and beliefs acting in his own interests counter the superstitions of his own constituents facts he does not wish to be brought to the attention of his electorate.

    However5 just as the fanciful and childish script of the low grade soap opera Fonzie bases his identity on I believe this may well be no more than fiction!

    There is at least a possibility that the unpleasant criminal extremist Gregory Lauder-Frost has misrepresented the clearly verifiable truth in the postings to suppress comment about his odious extremism and criminal record which includes a prison sentence for fraud running to six figures for monies stolen from his employers.


    I believe Mr Lance-Watkins has cut and pasted the offending post on his site

    Since I wrote one of the posts removed perhaps this idiot Fonzie would care to show where the statements of verifiable fact in any way offended.

    – as it’s also run by Google, one might think that will be removed soon.

    Unlikely as it contains no libel but let us face it with the exposure of Google’s blogspot to being .co.UK subject to the corrupt rules of The EU any suppression of truth is likely!

    And not before time too, these people should not be allowed to publish libels freely

    Perhaps having made this libelous accusation the dishonest coward Arthur Fonzerelli might have the integrity to act ethically and put his or her actual identity to their libel as they have failed with absolute 100% track record of failure to EVER identify any libel EVER published by me and presumably they can not identify a libel by Junius or they would have published the details and asked Junius for its correction and apology!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Fonzarelli View Post
    Funnily, the Junius link to you refer to has been removed by Google under legal advice. Is it possible that Mr Batten has made Google aware of libels in that post?

    The link is still live, what are you talking about?

    Which libels do you refer to? The truth is no libel.

    Mjolnir is correct that it is impossible to libel by telling the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post

    The link is still live, what are you talking about?

    Which libels do you refer to? The truth is no libel.

    If you visit th article you linked to, you will see that the offending text has been removed and replaced by…

    In response to a legal request submitted to Google, we have removed this post. If you wish, you can read more about the request at ChillingEffects.org.

    Why do think that has happened Mjolnir?

    As I have shown above the posting was accurate, honest and verifiable on the internet and in public record and has seemingly been unreasonably removed most likely on a dishonest complaint to suppress facts and the truth and opinion that racism and extremism on the part of those written about should be kept from the public! Supported it seems by anonymous low lifes from UKIP!

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    GLW likes to imply the removal was the responsibility of Batten

    I appreciate ethics and honesty are rarely in the lexicon of this anonymous coward thus presumably too ashamed to put their name to their dishonesty – as ever – Oh so very UKIP!

    . GLW, a man pretending to deal with facts, hasn’t so far offered any facts in support of that

    Read my posts on this issue and you will readily establish this to be a dishonest misrepresentation of my comments and the facts led – perhaps the idiotic ‘Independent UKIP’ has overlooked in his rush to defame that it was in fact his co creep Arthur Fonzerrelli who stated the likelihood of the complainant being Gerard Batten, in this thread!

    . The fact that GLF has emailed GLW about responsibility for the Junius blog might lead some to think responsibility lay elsewhere.

    As I pointed out on my blog!


    Arthur appears to be incorrect on one point. The cut and paste by GLW is not from Junius but from the words written in this thread by Mjolnir. So if anyone other than Junius might be in some legal trouble (as opposed to Google trouble) it would be Mjolnir and Anthony Butcher ahead of GLW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Independent UKIP View Post
    GLW likes to imply the removal was the responsibility of Batten. GLW, a man pretending to deal with facts, hasn’t so far offered any facts in support of that. The fact that GLF has emailed GLW about responsibility for the Junius blog might lead some to think responsibility lay elsewhere.

    Arthur appears to be incorrect on one point. The cut and paste by GLW is not from Junius but from the words written in this thread by Mjolnir. So if anyone other than Junius might be in some legal trouble (as opposed to Google trouble) it would be Mjolnir and Anthony Butcher ahead of GLW.

    Following on from this, Google have removed another post from the Junius site – it appeared to have been uploaded on Thursday – again, the same text appears to explain the articles removal. I believe it was regarding Mr Batten again.

    I think that whoever it is threatening legal advice obviously feels to have a sound case. And should this libel case ever get to court, I am sure that UKIP would be able to cite many examples of Junius untruths to back up libel claims against the author(s) of that blog. About time too

    We note this odious coward is all too redy to make dishonest claims he is unable to substantiate – Perhaps the odious cowardly creep would care to have the ethics to identify a single solitary libel in ANY of my blogs as he has made the dishonest comment and likewise relative to Junius – However as I and presumably Junius have not sunk to the levels of dishonesty and libel of this UKIP supporter no example or apology will ever be presented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
    Which libels do you refer to? The truth is no libel.

    Perhaps Batten wants the truth hidden as the panel delberates on the allegations made against him?

    Are you capable of using Google, Fonzie?

    Clearly not with any integrity or honesty hence the liars Fonzie, Independent UKIP and others use anonymity to lie and defame actions which I note neither Mjolnir nor Junius have ever sunk to to my knowledge!

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Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Fonzarelli View Post
I think that whoever it is threatening legal advice obviously feels to have a sound case. And should this libel case ever get to court, I am sure that UKIP would be able to cite many examples of Junius untruths to back up libel claims against the author(s) of that blog. About time too

Well, if anyone does take Junius to court for libel, they’ll need about £80 – 100,000 for a straightforward case.

Rather a lot of money when one considers NEVER has a libel been identified on Junius’ blog and none has occurred on my blog.


As for “….UKIP would be able to cite many examples of Junius untruths…”, any idea why they haven’t done that already? Just curious.

Clearly because they have been unable to identify a libel or dishonesty and my blog CLEARLY STATES that I will make ANY material correction of fact brought to my attention and I also offer right of reply to those I publish about.

I note Anthony Butcher is as ever hosting libel and defamatory comments and lies about me on his UKIP controlled blog – from which I was banned, based upon the lies of UKIP and the lies of Paul Nuttall on behalf of Nigel Farage & David Bannerman particularly who wished to suppress facts about them being discussed publicly – just as did Tom Wise as defended by the liar and fantasist douglas Denny, Bob Feel Martinis and other self serving low lifes seeking preferment and status in UKIP.

It will be remembered that Tom Wise was guilty of the criminal behaviour I identified and pursued and served 2 years in prison – strangely Derek Clark who was also ordered to pay back money he had fraudulently obtained (A larger sum than Tom Wise had stolen we understand) has not YET been charged under British law and faced the Courts – possibly in view of his apparent senility!

I note that despite his personal notable political ambitions Anthony Butcher has risen to his metier in the status of utter irrelevance held by a Parish Councillor discussing Dog poo as he does on his parish blog – matters of significance clearly being beyond his authority and his odious self serving dishonesty and obsequious oleaginous comments on the Forum he runs under the control of UKIP, hosting serial attacks and dishonest defamation on behalf of UKIP’s cowardly claque, may in part explain this.

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#0768* – Revisiting Steve ALLISON’s Dishonest Comments

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to revisit Steve Allison’s dishonest and rather foolish comments dealt with at CLICK HERE The silly little man seems to believe he has the right to lie about me on Dr. Eric Edmond’s blog, which you can read at CLICK HERE 

My comments are made to correct the dishonesty of Steve Allison but that he has lied about me it is probable that he has likewise lied about Junius and other facts – those who lie tend to have a patern of dishonesty in their personality and you will note that NEVER ONCE has anyone shown a single blog or publication that I have posted to be a deliberate lie or deliberate attempt to mislead or dishonestly defame.

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sadly UKIP has a clear and undeniable track record of fiddling internal elections and thus regardless of Steve Allison’s offensive rejoinder.

May I suggest people study the abuse of the internet by extremist UKIP staff such as the odious and utterly dishonest Mark Croucher also the official censures of UKIP by The Data Protection Commission.

I appreciate there are those who were and are on the payrpll and seeking preferment on the gravy train who have and do lie about UKIP for personal gain.

One need only consider Nigel’s right hand Ms. Annabelle Fuller the foul mouthed liar who helped rig one of UKIP’s elections.

Steve Allison must be describing the deficiency of Farage’s testese or perhaps his own – Clearly his statement is wrong, untrue, unsound and dishonest!

One need only consider the liar and cheat Mick McGough and his criminal offensive spamming and serial dishonesty and corruption to PROVE Steve Allison’s claims to be false.

Just look at the calliber of the self seekers on The NEC and the lack of ethics of those who remain as UKIP MEPs

Pwehaps someone can cite an example, outside of dictatorships & the third world where a 92% vote – the only mittigation being that the ONLY publicity on the imposition of the new dictatorial and centra;ised Constitution was staggeringly dishonest – little wonder that UKIP completely reversed its vote when last this undemocratic concept was put forward.

Clearly 92% return from the claimed membership list is in itself far from plausible let alone that they ALL voted in favour of an EU style centralised dictatorship – Even going so far as to use The EU’s corrupt methods of if you don’t get the result you want represent the question and bully the victims to vote agai.

May I suggest a perusal of Nigel Farage’s various speeches in Ireland condemning the very methods he has chose to use for his own personal gain.

Sadly Steve Allison seems to be easily duped!

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Hi Eric, well I was going to draw a line under this one but now I’m being attacked by both Junius and GL-W and so far neither have allowed any comments from me to appear on their pathetic little blogs. You do have the decency to allow comments and good on you for that. Junius and GL-W apparently only allow comments that agree with them, which of course is their right, after all they are so twisted and bile filled about UKIP that they are beyond any reasonable argument. Anyway, as someone who claims to only print true and accurate stories and knows what is going on in UKIP Junius and GL-W are well behind the times with his story describing me as a UKIP Staffer. I was never a UKIP Staffer, when I was paid by UKIP it was on a self employed contract basis, never staff, and I haven’t had any paid contract with UKIP for almost two years. So to describe me as a UKIP Staffer is hardly showing a finger on the pulse and knowledge of what is happening in UKIP. Similarly to describe ne as the UKIP Idiot of the month is a bit much since I’m not even a party member any more and haven’t been since last year, which is why having a go at me is “prety accademic” lol If they /he is going to try and sling mud then they should try to keep up to date. If they are two years behind the times as far as what a former member like me is up to then they must be well out of touch with what is going on at the moment.
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I had not previously believed that Steve Allison was fundamentally dishonest though I have doubted his abilities and integrity.

Firstly I stand by my EVERY comment relative to him.

Secondly as a UKIP supporter far predating his personal self promotion via UKIP and subsequent departure I fimnd his comments offensive.

Thirdly I have NEVER received a posting from Steve Allison.

Fourthly I moderate postings on my blogs to eradicate cowards unwilling to put their names to abusive, ill informed and foul languaged postings also spam as with the 20,000 offensive spams filtered out by my virus checkers from UKIP NEC member the liar Mick McGough.

Finally it is not appropriate for Steve Allison to shelter on Dr. Edmond’s blog to lie about me.

Allison be man enough to admit the truth YOU HAVE EITHER deliberately lied about me in this posting or at very least set out to abuse this blog by misleading people deliberately.

IF you believe you have a genuine complaint to make them contact me directly using your own name and I will happily publish your posting, as with all others by identifiable individuals.

You have my ‘e’Mail address and phone number openly published on my blogs so you clearly demean yourself by trying dishonestly to defame me on Eric Edmond’s blog.

Sorry you became involved Eric – I shall address Allison’s posting to my blog on my blog if he has the integrity to follow up with a posting to me as clearly your blog is a most inappropriate place for his dishonesty to continue.

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Having had my attention drawn to Steve Allison’s dishopnest comments about me and responding – that ‘Junius’ have also responded to his comments about them:
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Mr Allison is a liar. We have not published comments by the former UKIPPER because he had never sent us any to publish. His first comment was sent to us yesterday. And we published that!

That Mr Allison can so blatantly lie is, of course, of no surprise to us as he has turned lying on behalf of UKIP into an art form! His pathetic attempts to claim that 92% voted in favour of UKIP becoming a dictatorship is just the latest example of this.

Mr Allison claims that the Junius Team only publish comments that we agree with. More lies! There have been only four instances where we have declined to publish comments. Two were spam comments in Chinese, the other two contained nothing but foul language.

We are well aware that Mr Allison is no-longer officially a member of UKIP. However, he chose to defend UKIP’s leadership regarding the recent vote, plus he admits to watching the count. If you defend corruption then don’t be surprised to get caught in the crossfire!

So why not answer Mr Edmond’s question regarding the vote. Why wasn’t the Electoral Reform Society used to supervise the vote? And were they contacted for a quote?

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I believe we can expect much bluster and wriggling, threats and abuse from Allison as he continues to desperately defend the indefensible. I also expect the pack of the claque of cowards from EUkip to pile in with their display of dishonesty and misrepresentation both on Eric Edmond’s blog and the various UKIP controlled forums and blogs – their aggresive abuse and serial dishonestly unfortunately does much to damage UKIP and drive away the few remaining decent members who are rapidly being replaced by a particularly unpleasant, dishonest and corrupt claque of cheats and liars masquerading as some sort of political party of low repute.

Their actions speak louder than the examples given on this blog and the blogs of others such as Dr. Eric Edmond, Junius, Dr. Richard North and the like as EUkip scrapes the barrel for attention yet continues to bump along third or fourth in UK Domestic Politics which is largely a two horse race!

Fortunately in view of the odious state EUkip is in it is unlikely they will ever gain a foothold in Domestic politics as the likes of Allison, McGough, Clark, Batten, reeve, Duffy and a host of nebishes too ashamed of their own behaviour to put their name to it have all but destroyed the hopes of the many decent activists who USED to support and campaign for them.

Sadly the notable levels of EUkip are comprised of ner do wells, parasites, liars, cheats and self serving self seekers all demeaning UKIP with their back stabbing and playground bullying – forefend they might ever gain control of ANYTHING bigger than some utterly irrelevant parish council but clearly that is unlikely with so few elected offices and such low caliber unprofessional personnel.

After several days I have checked back and there is clearly no posting to me by Steve Allison, he thus lives down to expectation – clearly unable to defend his dishonest and underhand efforts to defame me and lie about me on UKIP controlled forums such as that of the dishonest and corrupt Anthony Butcher or elsewhere where he believes I have no right of reply or he can make his dishonest self serving comments with relative impunity.
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#0758* – More Lies From UKIP NEC Member McGough!

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More Lies From UKIP NEC Member McGough!

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One must asume that with their criminal behaviour such as 20,000 offensive spam messages sent to my spam filter they hope to intimidate critics and those who support them but seek ethical politics!
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mick mcgough: In the coffee houses of England it is being claimed that there is to be a ‘clean sweep’ of political parties irregular financial activities. Your friend Mr Smith, if I remember correctly, was an advisor to UKIP on the means by which the statutory authorities can be deceived; he must be very clever. Perhaps he can tell the investigators of the means by which the Ashford Call Centre and Ashord Employment Ltd, operated a carousel movenment of donation-contributions and staff payments. Do you get payments for your erudite contributions, or do you live entirely, ‘on your parish relief’?

Geoffrey,Unlike your chum GLW I am unpaid.As before you are lying re Mr Smith but you know that and I can see no useful point in engaging with you as you are pro EU and anti UKIP

 Let us consider the lies of Mick McGough in this posting on a UKIP controlled public forum:

mick mcgough: In the coffee houses of England it is being claimed that there is to be a ‘clean sweep’ of political parties irregular financial activities.

I understand there are efforts to clean up politics which must give UKIP great concern with the long list of proven frauds, lies, nepotism, convictions and Party failures in The Courts and those like Mick McGough who have been proven criminal tendencies in political terms yet still hold positions in UKIP.

We understand that there are a number of outstanding OLAF, Police and or Electoral Commission Inquiries still underway regarding UKIP staff & elected members.

Your friend Mr Smith, if I remember correctly, was an advisor to UKIP on the means by which the statutory authorities can be deceived;

At least one eMail circulated to UKIP Leadership was widely publicised, in which Andrew Smith the failed Treasurer explained how UKIP should outwit The Electoral Commission and deceive them.

he must be very clever.

Not so clever since he quit as Treasurer in much opprobrium having failed to keep good and proper accounts leaving some 28 specific questions unanswered and the books in disaray – his behaviour was utterly unprofessional as were his claims of his status as an accountant such that he was unable to attend many UKIP meetings as his employers were unwilling to release him rather than he being of the senior position he tried to lead people to believe.

Perhaps he can tell the investigators of the means by which the Ashford Call Centre and Ashord Employment Ltd, operated a carousel movenment of donation-contributions and staff payments.

A sytematic apparent theft of supporters donations in any moral or ethical terms as confirmed by the then Chairman who admitted that less than 15% of the cash income ever reached the party the donations were made to!

A situation openly colluded with by UKIP’s corrupt and incompetent leadership!

Do you get payments for your erudite contributions, or do you live entirely, ‘on your parish relief’?

It is understood that expenses are paid and no doubt in line with EU policy so enthusiastically supported by UKIP leadership they are no doubt paid at a grossly inflated rate. As to what direct payments for work done, chauffeuring, visits to continental UKIP offices no doubt including the high life led by UKIP leadership as with bordellos, hostelries and other self indulgence it is unlikely the public will ever hear the truth when one considers the £Millions of UKIP potential income that has been spirited away.

ANY promise or statement from UKIP or its leadership is all but invalid when one considers the lies of its leadership as with the lies that Tom Wise had been dismissed, no family members would be employed etc. etc.

The level of fraud in UKIP leadership is unarguable, proven and by any normal standards widespread!

Geoffrey,Unlike your chum GLW I am unpaid.

Two small points here that show Mick McGough for the liar he is –
Firstly: I have NEVER met Geoffrey Collier to my knowledge we have never even been in the same County at the same time! Hardly chums. –
Secondly:  I have never received one penny piece for political activities save fees for media appearances to cover direct expenses and a replacement computer donated some 12 years ago by a EUroSceptic and ONE cheque for £100 from a EUroSceptic towards the costs of organising a EUroSceptic weekend meeting.

As before you are lying re Mr Smith

Geoffrey Collier is NOT lying but Mick McGough clearly is in this instance and is proven beyond any doubt to do so habitually.

but you know that

A particularly dishonest turn of phrase by Mick McGough to try desperately to defame – no doubt to try to detract from the truth and facts presented by Geoffrey Collier regarding the corruption in UKIP leadership.

and I can see no useful point in engaging with you as you are pro EU and anti UKIP

Further clear dishonesty from Mick McGough regarding Geoffrey Collier in the many 100s of postings made in public and in private correspondence I have had sight of I have NEVER ONCE seen a pro EU or anti UKIP utterance by Geoffrey Collier unlike Mick McGough whose postings and comments, general dishonesty and self serving corruption bring UKIP and the EUroSceptic cause into disrepute on a regular basis.

I once again challenge Mick McGough to establish a single fact to support his consistent lies.

The odious little man is beneath contempt in his behaviour and his dishonesty and his self serving self seeking damage done to the EUroSceptic movement in general and UKIP in particular which so greatly damages my Country and aids the EU.

I call on Mick McGough to apologise publicly to those he has so dishonestly and gratuitously defamed and withdraw his sordid presence from UKIP and other EUroSceptic organisations he befouls and damages with his proven lies and dishonest abuse aand attempted cuber bullying that besmirch the reputation of ANY ethical organisation.

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#0752* – UKIP Supporters’ Damaging Cyber Bullying & Lies

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It is clear that on a greatly rising tide of EUroScepticism UKIP’s failure is exacerbated by the behaviour of its aspirant supporters (cowards, cheats, liars, fraudsters and cyber bullies) and association with racism, anti homosexuality, holocaust denial, anti judaism, advocacy of violence and the dregs of EUropean politics!

The lack of leadership ability, strategy or valid tactics is a reflection of the clear lack of professionalism and disinterest in its membership or Country beyond self enrichment of a small clique and agrandisement of their claque!

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Whether individuals like Independent UKIP, Skeptyk, Gothmog, KrisH and the like are merely cowards who know they are telling lies and are ashamed or are rewarded for their dishonesty and unpleasant manner, so damaging to UKIP and the EUroRealist cause and therefore having prostituted their ethics is a matter of conjecture but endlessly having them repeat their lies and feeble efforts as cyber bullies hidden behind the cowardly cloak of anonymity without being denounced by UKIP has done the party immense harm.

As a member ‘Trusted’ on the UKIP controlled squalid little Forum of Antyhony Butcher’s Independent UKIP currently leads the charge!

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Well…..

Everyone I’ve seen supports their assertions validly, except for 1 or 2 UKIP members. Like you. As we’ve seen.

I’ve asked repeatedly for sensitive flowers to point out where I’ve been rude. Not a single, specific instance has been quoted.

I’m I see now I’ve rattled I-UKIP’s cage, he’s responded (and of course, I can’t see it). So predictable.

Despite being a compulsive liar Mr Lance-Watkins maintains he always tells the truth in everything he says. Despite obdurate rudeness over many months you maintain you’ve never been rude. Is he grooming you to take over? You’re demonstrating increasingly familiar traits.

Clearly a dishonest attempt to mislead people as neither Independent UKIP nor any of the other maggots feeding on the corruption in UKIP, and too ashamed to use their own names when abusing people, has EVER shown a single solitary consequential inaccuracy in ANY of my many 1,000s of postings!

I am also unaware of them ever being able to materially fault those posting as Junius. I am aware they haven’t a clue who posting facts as Junius but I am aware that there is a strong possibility UKIP may find itself in Court YET AGAIN were they to interfere in someone’s employment based on their various false guesses!

I note (thanks) that Niall warry has read my blog, as do UKIP leadership and their puppets and muppets, desperately trying to find a factual inaccuracy – at which they have clearly and totally failed to date. Much as they may wish to disagree with the clearly stated opinions I also voice!

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Go on give him a call if you have a query.

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A rather foolish statement as anyone will note as Niall Warry said absolutely nothing with which he could disagree but he is so programmed to be offensive that he has made rather a fool of himself. Clearly he could not disagree with my comment as clearly he was not in conversation with me – probably too much of a coward or advised by his puppet masters that he was on far too weak ground to risk direct contact!
May I thank Steve Morson for his support in rebutting this foolish little chappie and refuting what the serial liar Independent UKIP said originally (for the umpteenth time without a shred of evidence of EVER showing a material fact posted by me to be materially inaccurate), he just keeps repeating his lines, presumably for his UKIP funded rewards – a bit like the odious liar, cheat and criminally inclined public nuisance Mick McGough!
Anyway – my thanks to Steve Morson and Niall Warry for speaking out at the risk of being lied about and abused by the dwindling army of useful idiots cyber bullying for UKIP.
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GLW ends his latest blog entry with this:-

Our thanks to the many who ensure we maintain the accuracy and veracity of our postings and have done so for several years & many 1,000s of postings both on our own blogs, YouTube, eMails & Forums…..

Well, of course, I only have knowledge of GL-W thanks to 2 UKIP members – 1 an MEP – and I can only say, from personal experience, that he is quite fastidious about accuracy.

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Well, of course, I only have knowledge of GL-W thanks to 2 UKIP members – 1 an MEP – and I can only say, from personal experience, that he is quite fastidious about accuracy.

Piffle!

There are a number of articles that have been found to lack in integrity and accuracy. Articles with purposive intention; personal opinion and values from an individual with an axe to grind.

Yet one notes that in the many 1,000s of postings I have made on my blogs, other blogs and web sites – Forums and eMails UKIP have been unable to identify a single solitary factual error of any material consequence.

Yes I have an axe to grind – does not everyone of any ability to reason? One of those axes is that I can not stand corruption amongst those I misguidedly supported. I find use of fake identities to abuse and berate private individuals in ad hominem attacks beneath contempt, I am disgusted by betrayal by those I aided and voted for, I have nothing but contempt for UKIP leadership which has NOTHING to publicly curb the cyber bullying and clear dishonesty of some of its leadership and many of its supporters, presumably in aspirant hope of reward.

I have utter contempt for fraud, liars, cheats and those who seek self enrichment and self agrandisement willingly involved in racism, religious bigotry, anti homosexuality, anti judaism and espousing violence as a primary plank of political achievement or those willing to associate with such behaviour.

I have NEVER denied that I am an individual of VERY clear and openly stated opinions and values and for the likes of the creepy succubi, puppets and inccubi of UKIP leadership to berate me for having clearly held values and opinions makes them look the fools they clearly prove to be!

FOR THE RECORD:
Yet again I repeat I have NEVER, on any issue in any place or at any time, have I deliberately lied or set out to mislead anyone on any issue.

Further in all my many postings on the internet I have ALWAYS shown clearly who I am and have always made my contact details readily available.

Further I have ALWAYS strenuously endeavoured to provide accurate FACTS and clear opinions.

Further I have ALWAYS made it clear that if ANYONE believes I have made an error of FACT and have contacted me in a polite and adult manner using an identified and contactable legal persona I have been all too willing to correct any fact which they can substantiate to be untrue.

To date NEVER has any material FACT of consequence been shown to be false, untrue or deliberately misleading.

IF you disagree and can show reason for any material FACT to be corrected do contact me and any required and substantiated substantive correction will be made, acknowledged and if need be apologised for. I will NOT merely make a clandestine adjustment or removal of such an error!
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#0748* – The UKIP Civil War continues with Tim Condon etc.

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 15/02/2012

#0748* – The UKIP Civil War continues with Tim Condon etc.
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The UKIP Civil War continues with Prof. Tim Condon one time UKIP Leadership contender, ‘insider’ and member!

Michael Foulston, UKIP Branch Chairman 

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yet further proof that UKIP in its present state is clearly unfit for purpose which as some with long memories will remember was to actively work to Leave-The-EU – NOT just to function as a cult for the enrichment of a small clique of self serving nere do wells and utter incompetents supported by a claque of liars, rogues and cheats seeking preferment bribes and crumbs from the EU Gravy Train!

Many of who are seriously out of control whether using their own names, having no reputation or self respect to defend like Mick McGough NEC, Annabelle Fuller PR, Marta Andreasen  MEP, Gawain Towler PR, David Bannerman MEP,Douglas Denny NEC, Paul Nuttall MEP, Peter Reeve Regional Organiser, Stuart Gulleford, Derek Clark MEP, John Ison, Gerard Batten MEP, Mark Croucher, Stuart Agnew MEP, Stuart Parr, Godfrey Bloom MEP and the like or the small army of sock puppets too ashamed to use their own names to peddle their own particular brand of filth like Skeptyk, Independent UKIP, SDP, Gothmog, Stathan and the like!

Well respected National Economist, broadcaster and University Professor Tim Condon makes it yet again clear that UKIP in its present form is unfit for purpose, riven with squabbling factions all seeking their own place on the gravy train as they thus aid and abet The EU and its undemocratic, profligate and malign institutions and ambitions.

Dear fellow members of UKIP
(and others concerned about the UK’s relationship with the EU),

Members of the UK Independence Party are being asked to vote for a new Constitution. It is very important that – in the run-up to the 2014 European elections and the 2015 general election – UKIP’s members agree to and respect their party Constitution, and that the Constitution itself be clearly written and legally unambiguous. The present Conservative-LibDem coalition government is mediocre and unconvincing, as well as being essentially Europhile.


These are ideal conditions for minority parties to pick up protest votes. UKIP ought to top the poll in the 2014 European elections and at least to double its share in the next general election (i.e., to reach at least 6% in the national vote).


But – as far as possible – UKIP must concentrate on “outfighting” (fighting our enemies), not “infighting” (fighting each other).

Unhappily, many influential members – including, for example, Mike Nattrass MEP and several branch chairmen – are concerned about the contents of the new Constitution. Last year the party had a major debate about its attitude towards pan-European political parties. I took an active role in that debate and helped put together some of the key information on the meaning of PEPPs.


I was delighted that – after an open, democratic and occasionally quite fierce debate – the party’s members voted by more than two to one that UKIP must not become associated with a PEPP.

 The current concerns about the Constitution focus on two issues,
          the possibility that, under clause 3.4 of the proposed Constitution, the Leader and the National Executive Committee could override last year’s PEPP vote and take the party, and its MEPs, into a PEPP, and
          the selection of candidates for elections.

I am not in this e-mail going to cover the second of these. However, I do feel very strongly that the party membership’s opposition to a PEPP must be respected by the Leader and the NEC. I have therefore written the following Open Letter to Nigel Farage and asked him to reassure members.

Will Nigel give us a clear and definite commitment that, while he is Leader, UKIP will have nothing to do – no connection whatsoever – with a pan-European political party, a structure which – as everyone knows – is a creation of the EU and a bribe from the European Parliament to MEPs? If Nigel can give us that commitment, I will support the new Constitution.

The Open Letter appears below:

Open Letter to Nigel Farage MEP, Leader of the UK Independence Party

Dear Nigel,                                                                                                                                              12th February, 2012
Several party members have written to me voicing their concern about the proposed new Constitution. Some have sought my opinion on the Constitution and asked for my recommendation about how they should vote. One of their main concerns relates to clause 3.4 which reads,
The Party may cooperate with other like-minded democratic parties, institutions and organisations for any purposes which are wholly consistent with its objectives, whether such be in the United Kingdom or elsewhere for such time and to such an extent as the Leader and the NEC deem necessary and expedient in order to advance the Party’s objectives.
A commonly-held view is that this clause would allow the Leader and the NEC to form an association between, on the one hand, the Party and its MEPs, and, on the other, a pan-European political party established under the European Parliament’s auspices.
We perhaps do not need to remind ourselves that the UK Independence Party had a major intra-party debate last year about a possible association between it and a pan-European political party. That debate took up time and energy. I was myself on the panel of speakers opposed to a PEPP relationship and spoke to three “hustings”-type meetings.

I was delighted that the membership voted by a decisive margin of just over two to one that UKIP should not become associated with a PEPP. I was also sorry and disappointed when, late in the campaign, you supported in an article in Independence a link between UKIP and a PEPP. I was sorry and disappointed not least because in January 2004 you had said that UKIP was “opposed on principle to the idea of state funding of political parties, either nationally or at the European level. (The italics are mine.)

You have frequently expressed your dismay about the lack of democracy in the European Union. I have admired your speeches and interventions in the European Parliament. I agree with you 100% that the un-democratic and centralizing direction of travel in the European Union must be deplored. But consistency then demands that UKIP conduct itself in a fully democratic spirit. If we deplore the un-democratic and centralizing direction of travel in the EU, surely UKIP itself must be a model of democracy.  
I might myself be willing to give you the benefit of the doubt on clause 3.4, but several party members are unhappy. Accompanying this letter is another, from Michael Foulston, chairman of the Mole Valley and Epsom branch, to his branch members. The worries set out in that letter seem to me to be very understandable.
I now come to the crux of the matter. Will you, during your period as UKIP Leader, respect the result of the democratic 2011vote on the pan-European political party issue? More precisely, will you given a clear and definite commitment that you will discourage and prevent any association between, on the one hand, UKIP and its MEPs, and, on the other, a pan-European political party established under the auspices of the European Parliament? As we both know, such pan-European political parties are funded from the European Parliament’s budget, and its officials check and decide the compatibility of such expenditure with the EU’s wider aims. Those aims are totally at variance with UKIP’s.
If you give a clear, definite commitment that you will stop an association between UKIP and a PEPP, I will myself vote ‘Yes’ to the Constitution and I will recommend to others that they do the same; if you cannot give such a commitment, I will vote ‘No’ and recommend to others that they also vote ‘No’. Time is pressing, and I would appreciate your early reply. If I have not heard from you by Friday, 17th February, I will be voting ‘No’.  (Let me note that I have little doubt that the Constitution will be voted through, whatever the outcome of this exchange between us. At any rate, if UKIP does under your leadership link up with a pan-European party, party members will know where you stand.) I look forward to your reply.
Yours sincerely,
Professor Tim Congdon CBE
Economics Spokesman, UK Independence Party
Runner-up in the 2010 UKIP leadership election

  

Also attached below is a letter from Michael Foulston, Chairman of the Mole Valley and Epsom branch, to his members. It is a good example of the worries being expressed by UKIP activists about the Constitution.  

I agree with every word and hope that the letter has wide circulation throughout the party. Nigel Farage must give us an unbreakable commitment that UKIP will not – repeat, not – become associated with a pan-European political party.

With best wishes,  
 Tim Congdon


Here is the letter from Michael Foulston, Chairman of the Mole Valley and Epsom branch, to his members:

Michael Foulston stood for UKIP in Dorking South where he received 1/10th. as many votes as the elected winner with 141 vote which sadly was similar to most of UKIP members who stood unled and unguided by the unfit for purpose leadership! 

Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:26:42 +0000
From: m.foulston@btinternet.com
Subject: UK INDEPENDENCE PARTY
To: m.foulston@btinternet.com
To all members of the Mole Valley + Epsom UK Independence Party (plus copy toToby Micklethwaite and Roger Bird)
Dear Member
You should have by now received a copy of thenew draft party constitution on pages 11-14 of the party’s magazine Independence. I hope that you willtake the opportunity to read through this proposed change and vote.
My reason for writing to you about this matteris that having discussed it with your branch secretary Bob Cane and branchtreasurer Peter Lindsay, I find that we do share some concerns. In particular,we feel it is regrettable that there has been no consultation period allowedand members are being asked to vote Yes or No to the whole document as itstands.
Our objections relate in particular to paragraph3.4 of the draft constitution which states:-
3.4 The Party mayco-operate with other like-minded democratic parties, institutions and organisationsfor any purposes which are wholly consistent with its objectives, whether suchbe in the United Kingdomor elsewhere for such time and to such extent as the Leader and the NECmay deem necessary and expedient in order to advance the Party’s objectives.
You will probably recall that the Party spentmuch time and trouble last summer because of the wish of certain MEPs to join aPan-European Party. That was firmly vetoed by the membership by a vote of 5161to 2535 on a 49·2 per cent turnout.
Bob, Peter and I are anxious to ensure that weshould do all we can to ensure that the Party is not closely associated orgrouped with other European parties which are at variance with the principlesof UKIP. That paragraph as it stands is far too widely drawn and could beinterpreted as an “enabling” clause which might allow just the sort ofentanglement which was rejected last year. We would like this aspect of thedocument to be clarified, expanded and much more closely defined.
Obviously, each member must vote as he or shesees fit – and, indeed, I hope you will participate in the vote. However, as itcurrently stands, I am personally voting against this new constitution as areBob and Peter.
Regards
Michael Foulston
Chairman, Mole Valley + Epsom UK Independence Party

If you wish to check the veracity of this letter for yourself having been conned by one of the UKIP sock puppets that this blog EVER publishes other than FACTS and the Truth, with clearly demarkated opinion and views then do by all means confirm the facts with Tim Condon whose contact data is readily available or with Michael Foulston who publishes his own contact data as follows:

Michael Foulston

m.foulston@btinternet.com

01306 882126

 Loth as I am to quote that vile specimen of humanity Tony Blair, war criminal traitor, and self serving self enriching liar ‘Time for a change’ – to be fair he was also only interested in himself and self enrichment regardless of the damage he did to Britain seemingly like UKIP leadership and its claque as they work so hard to support The EU which is sad when you think of the huge number of decent but rather gullible, well meaning but easily conned UKIP members at large!
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#0747* – Peter McGUIGGAN befouling UKIP it seems

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 14/02/2012

#0747* – Peter McGUIGGAN befouling UKIP it seem

Mike Nattrass, MEP
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Peter McGUIGGAN befouling UKIP it seems!
It is the behaviour of vile individuals like this that keep the low lifes & rascals in place leading UKIP and so clearly aiding The EU in its Gaulleiter Governance of these United Kingdoms!

Just think what UKIP could achieve if rid of such pond life!

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I wasn’t going to use this as it seemed of little relevance and I couldn’t then be bothered third party verifying the facts in view of the mangled grammar and spelling even worse than mine 😉
but having received it and mailed it on to Junius, who have now used it – I can well see why they made a number of corrections.

There is the original text as mailed to me by someone who is very much an insider:

Johnny come Late and Delusional Buffoon Peter Mcwiggin
We note with increasing amusement attempts by party loner Peter McGuiggan to claim that Nikki Sinclaire, Mike Nattrass and Trevor Colman have betrayed UKIP by leaving the EFD are becoming more and more frequent on the internal members forum. His constant attacks of hatred are of course made safely from behind his computer screen, to much of a spineless coward to mention any of his gripes to Mike Nattrass when in the same company, not surprisingly as he seems to despise Mike the most?
Peter’s buffoonish antics first came to people’s attention, when he made a complete fool of himself at the party’s West Midlands PEP debate last year when he stood up within the audience to hurl abuse and rudely interrupt speakers making presentations. Fellow members were less than impressed and he quickly sat down when his outbursts had drew drew hisses and shouts of ‘’shut up’’ from the audience.  
Others may remember him from his embarrassing outing as a UKIP candidate on the 16th of June also last year when he scrapped a massive 180 votes. Throughout that campaign Peter refused to contribute a penny and demanded EU funding to pay for his by-election leaflets despite being told this was against electoral law. However, Peter was given personalised leaflets for his campaign. How did he thank those that went to the effort of producing and paying for these you might wonder? He hoarded them under the bed and lied about delivering them.
Perhaps had Peter spent as much time campaigning for UKIP as he spent as an Arm Chair warrior he might have achieved more of a result. Like most Farage sycophants, Peter supported UKIP signing up to a PEP – thankfully most members aren’t so easily led.
NEC  member Douglas Denny is also becoming increasingly annoyed at Peters immature posts online recently lashing out after another unwarranted attack on Mike Nattrass, correctly stating
‘’Mikes worth to the party and to the cause has been infinitely greater than yourself – of that I have no doubt whatever.   Your leaving the party will have no effect and might even be to the good, whereas his leaving the party will be definitely to the detriment of the cause and party’’
We happen to agree.
Despite being put in his place, Peter continues to attack Mr Nattrass proclaiming that he has just four diary engagements for February 2012 and that he pockets £300k pa amongst other rubbish, hoping something will stick. Well Peter, if you are not happy within UKIP why don’t you go back to the party that you came from the BNP!
I can confirm that in substance the material is correct.
Other than for self enrichment why would ANYONE want to be a UKIP MEP? 
The jealousies, racism, anti homosexuality and the vile cowards squabbling and back stabbing, frequently too ashamed of their activities to even put their name to their delusional lies shows the Party as comnpletely unfiot for purpose as they aid The EU on a daily basis by presenting a vile and self serving image of EUroScepticism that has proved immensly harmful – little wonder their defenders hide behind false identities and dishonest and iresponsible low lifes like John Ison, Mark croucher, Douglas Denny, Peter Reeve, Derek Clark, Gerard Batten, Mick McGough, Annabelle Fuller, Stuart Gulleford, Malcolm Wood, Michael Greaves, Paul Nuttall and their ilk!
It is little wonder that they are associated with the scum of the gutters of EUropean politics in such extremist groups as The EFD & EAF.
It is such a shame when the Leave-The-EU cause is so strong in these United Kingdoms that it is sabotaged and befouled by the leadership clique of UKIP and their claque in betrayal of the many very genuine and decent members whose gullibility they exploit!
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