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>Nigel Farage’s Choice of Extremist Associates For UKIP!

Posted by Greg Lance-Watkins on 28/07/2014

>Nigel Farage’s Choice of Extremist Associates For UKIP!
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>Nigel Farage’s Choice of Extremist Associates For UKIP has been the giveaway of UKIP’s undeniable racism, anti Judaism, anti homosexual extremism in the personal quest for enrichment!

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Joëlle Bergeron: Her fascist past & a challenge to UKIP MEPs

 

 

BERGERON, Joelle 01Ssshhh …. Don’t tell anybody, but Nigel is lying

Farage’s new French colleague caused quite a stir upon joining him, of course, but the line put out by the EFD about her Front National past was (surprise surprise) highly misleading. Quite a few reports quoted an EFD press release which said Bergeron; “has admitted that she had joined the party with great hopes but realized that their philosophy was very different.”

This implies that she joined the FN naively but quickly left it when she discovered what it believed in.

The idea that any French person would be unaware of the position of the FN is simply ridiculous. However, perhaps she genuinely did not notice and it took her a while to suss it out. Quite a while, in fact, as she joined the FN in 1972, the year it was founded, and became a party organizer within just a few years, at the time which the FN was at its most extremist.

In fact, she must be really stupid not to notice, as her husband was a also senior party member.

Like her, he joined when the party was created. He was politically active in Lorient in Brittany from 1984, as a candidate in national, regional and cantonal elections. And here’s the real give away – he was a member of the Front National’s Central Committee from autumn 2007.

Here is an article from 2008 detailing his Front National career.

FARAGE, Nigel 91Look, I said it before, I’ll say it again, we will never sit with the FN

So the press release was clearly a deliberate attempt to deceive the UKIP membership, as well as the press and the electorate.

And now we can see how desperate Farage is to be president of a pan-European political group, and how easily he can discard his moral and political values.

The question is, how the new UKIP MEPs feel about all this, and what will they do about it? Will they continue to spout the lie that Bergeron left the FN when she worked out what they were about, or will they admit that they now sit in a political group with one of Europe’s longest serving and most established fascists, from one of the EU’s dirtiest and mst racist parties? Or are they, to a man and a women, either too scared of Farage to say anything, and too scared to lose their jobs by doing something about it?

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This Rather Looks Like A Sad Reflection On British Justice!

Posted by Greg Lance-Watkins on 26/07/2014

This Rather Looks Like A Sad Reflection On British Justice!
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 This charging of Nikki Sinclaire Rather Looks Like A Sad Reflection On British Justice when in the context of the €Billions the EU squanders, overpays and loses to fraud particularly relative to 29 months on bail where justice delayed is clearly justice denied!

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This Rather Looks Like A Sad Reflection On British Justice!Hi,

You may find some of the facts below; and there many downloads and screen captures which I have supporting the opinions below; of interest IF you value campaigning for British Justice, responsible & competent police and cleaning-up Ukip to make it fit for purpose!

http://juniusonukip.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/nigel-farages-useful-idiot-john-ison.html

http://ukip-vs-eukip.blogspot.co.uk/2011/03/0323-ukip-official-implicated-in-theft.html

http://markcroucher.blogspot.co.uk/2011/03/07-mar-2011-ukip-john-ison-mark.html

http://markcroucher.blogspot.co.uk/

http://ukip-vs-eukip.com/category/john-ison/

Croucher/ Ison blog : http://allaboutukip.blogspot.co.uk/2010/12/ms-sinclaire-and-how-she-dare-not-sit.html

On the, at the time, UKip controlled BDF:

It is believed that John Ison used to post occasionally as “Paul Beech”, which is BP backwards – Bob Pacific on blog also. It was removed (changed to Dave Briggs!) I hear this was done after it was shown to a UKIP MEP in Sept 2010!

“The Common Man” (Oh so Very common!) was MC backwards – Mark Croucher. This was verified for me by a UKIP Brussels insider (Croucher admitted it) at the time.

Mjolnir post on the subject was removed by BDF Moderators!

I can’t find an internet archive of Skeptyk’s BDF entry on the subject or his sordid and dishonest blog, and my source of screenshots have gone missing! It was December 2010, and posted Gregg Beeman’s salary details, but I doubt it was Ison as he was driving to the Alps about that time, so my guess is Croucher.

The information in the downloads was seemingly obtained in a burglary of Nikki Sinclaire’s office by John Ison and I hold a copy of the eMail he sent, containing copies of the material he obtained, some dozens of scans, obtained either by burglary or at very least dishonestly, supplied to the duplicitous and dishonest Mark Croucher – who worked as Nigel Farage’s sewer rat seeking out any material that could be used by Farage and his cronies to manipulate and control people – Notably it was Nigel Farage’s son who commented to Roger Knapman that he was the only person on whom his father did not have a (black) file!

The so called evidence against Nikki Sinclaire would seem to have been obtained by theft including burglary also recordings of phone calls recorded by John Ison and edited by Mark Croucher is also available – whether the police know that the evidence was stolen and the recordings edited I know not! However after almost 30 months on bail it is clear the police have had to drop a number of their original claims against Sinclaire & the 3 members of her staff originally bailed, as they obviously have failed to stand them up even when aided by the dishonest and self serving John Ison or anyone who worked for Farage!

There is absolutely no doubt that any errors of claiming by Nikki Sinclaire (or more likely her staff and most probably deliberate claims inserted into her accounts by third party efforts to damage her) do NOT justify the prolonged period of bail used to smear her name on the grounds of ‘Justice delayed is justice denied’!

The standards of behaviour by the police and others in these allegations give one every concern for the calibre of justice that can be expected and even a guilty verdict would not seem justice in the long run!

Clearly Justice should be seen to be done and much of the behaviour of those involved in the accusations and allegations, not to mention gathering of information and the vile gutter commentaries of a personal nature against Nikki Sinclaire by many of the low lifes associated with Ukip that this shoddy police activity has caused is a matter not of dignity or competence on the part of the police or Ukip and its associates but a slur on both the body politic and the tenets of Justice in these United Kingdoms.

It has been suggested by a retired police Acting Chief Supt. of 30 years distinguished service that:

‘….no interview / charges presented face-face + hand delivered summons (charges) (after this period on bail+ investigation) = possible’ “strong grounds for malicious prosecution charge”.

Misconduct in Public Office does carry a maximum life sentence and is presented under common law, not statute.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/l_to_o/misconduct_in_public_office/#a015

An easy “catch all” – but it has to be proved beyond reasonable doubt!

May I also draw your attention to:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news…etty-cash.html

ALSO the fact that despite his many lies and efforts to deny his crimes and seek to claim they were invented by myself Derek Clark UKIP MEP was found guilty by OLAF of extensive false claims of EU expenses and was merely ordered to repay somewhere between £50K & £100,000 and seemingly no further action was taken.

In the case of Stuart Agnew MEP UKIP no action was seemingly taken to recoup the numerous £1,000s he falsely claimed as expenses as he admitted on camera to The Sunday Times nor against David Bannerman MEP UKIP (now a Tory MEP!) similarly implicated and neither have cleared their name!

Similarly UKIP leader & MEP Nigel Farage and a previous MEP leader of UKIP Jeffrey Titford were ordered to repay monies they had falsely claimed in expenses!

It is also worthy of note that Nigel Farage has also been accused of dishonest accounting having failed to declare donations to UKIP of over £200,000 and there is also still the issue of what happened to what may have been as much as £1M collected through the Ashford ‘scheme’ which he described as ‘UKIP’s best ever money maker’, however the party chairman, David Bannerman spoke on a point of orderr in reasponse to Richard Suchorzewski at a public meeting in Derbyshire, conceding that less than 15% of the money raised was ever presented to UKIP!

There was it seemed extensive money laundering in that large sums of money were processed through credit card donations which were processed through the credit card machine of Graham Booth UKIP MEP’s Hotel in Torquay!

Similarly there were many £1,000s collected in buckets and if accounted at all only loosely, as the outcome of the Court case brought against UKip by The Electoral Commission, which UKip lost, though UKip turned the issue to advantage seeking to raise the money and costs by bucket collections at a series of public events and by seeking donations. Contrary to claims the donation made by Alan Bown was clearly a breech of the rules as Alan Bown had removed himself from the electoral register as, I understand a part of his divorce proceedings when he left his wife and was co-habiting with one of his betting shop manageresses. Thus the donation was not legal!

A situation bearing many similarities to the donation UKip received some years previously when they accepted a sizeable donation from the owner of a UK football club who was not on the electoral register. UKip, without complaint, refunded the money that had been an unlawfull donation and arrangements were made by thwe donor to have it re-donated in a legal manner (in that case I believe it was by his wife who was on the electoral register) – Just as could have been done relative to Alan Bown’s donation.

Despite claims by dishonest or ill informed UKip members this was not a case of ElCom picking on UKip relative to the large donation made by an individual, subsequently found to be criminal, made to the Lib.Dims. as in that case they had carried out due diligence, even going so far as to contact ElCom for a ruling on the matter before utilising the money. I understand at the time of rec eipt of the money the individual was on the electoral register and neither the Lib.Dims. nor ElCom could have had any idea he was subsequerntly to be found guilty of criminality!

I was reliably informed, at the time of the start of this sorry debacle, that as soon as the tampering with her accounts took place and she was aware of it she immediately contacted the EU Payments Office and provided all the details she could and whether the EU Payments Office arranged repayment or merely wrote it off as being a paltry amount relative to the normal level of squandering of tax payer’s money that is endemic in the undemocratic and corrupt EU, I know not.

On these few comments alone and the links given it becomes all too apparently clear, in my opinion, that this is little short of malicious prosecution, seemingly for political gain or pure malice, of some sort, of individuals or groups of individuals and that the lack of ethical behaviour in extending the bail period from Feb-2012 (after Nikki Sinclaire herself had made public, and I believe had reported this to the police, she had reason to believe her accounts had been maliciously tampered with by a member of staff she believed had possibly made false claims and stolen from her) until this week.

Some 29 months on bail, with no further questioning and apparently no details of the police claims supplied, is little short of harassment and could justifiably be claimed as having ensured she was not re-elected as an MEP and is thus currently unemployed, technically, with a case pending which ensures she will be unable to get responsible employment until justice has been seen to be done and her name cleared – presumably with a healthy level of compensation!

Particularly as it is clearly shown and provable, in her accounts, that Nikki Sinclaire injected a sum in excess of £120,000 of her own money from salary and other personal sources also used a large sum of fully audited money, raised through donations, to fund her work and responsibilities, as she believed them to be (viz: obtaining 220,000 signatures to her petition to HM Government which was the direct and sole cause of David Cameron being forced to hold a debate of the House of Commons relative to Britain’s membership of the EU and thus the undertaking of an IN/OUT referendum, which he clearly led thwe public to believe would be binding).

It is bizarre to believe that an individual who donated a sum well in excess of £100K would then bother with some penny ante sum (by the standards of fraud in the EU by MEPs) – had she wished to gain more income a few £1.000 on mistakenly claimed travel expenses would be dwarfed by her net loss of personal monies through her donations. Even were the police able to engineer a conviction I do not believe Justice would be seen to be done and it is my opinion the entire matter is seeking to ‘get egg off the face of The police’ for having firstly believed the miscreants who would seem to have dishonestly and deliberately ‘set her up’ and for secondly having so tardily acted to bring the matter to Court even if they believe they have a case.

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Robin Page – A Great Loss To UKIP due to Farage’s Insecurity / Ego

Posted by Greg Lance-Watkins on 15/07/2014

Robin Page – A Great Loss To UKIP due to Farage’s Insecurity / Ego
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Robin Page – A Great Loss To UKIP due to Farage’s Insecurity / Ego but he is not alone CLICK HERE

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Game Fair: Glastonbury for the green welly brigade

Attended by as many people as Glastonbury, the CLA Game Fair is a chance to champion all that’s great about rural Britain

CLA Game Fair: The annual rural event at Blenheim Palace attracts the same number of people at Glastonbury

CLA Game Fair: The annual rural event at Blenheim Palace attracts the same number of people at Glastonbury 
 

It doesn’t seem possible. One of the highlights of the rural year is here again already – well almost. The CLA Game Fair will be held at Blenheim Palace, in Oxfordshire, next weekend. I will be there on all three days and I hope to meet as many readers as possible. I will spend as much time as I can on the stand of the Countryside Restoration Trust, although I ought to confess that on Friday 18 I shall be busy “networking” for much of the day – a deceitful way of saying that for some of the time I will be socialising, meeting old friends, eating, drinking and gossiping. Enjoying myself, in other words.

I also have to work for one hour on the Friday, between 11am and midday, when I am taking part in a debate at the Game Fair Theatre titled: “Would the countryside be better off if we left the EU?” It will be an interesting debate for me, the first time since 2008 that I will have met my old “friend” Nigel Farage, leader of Ukip– another panel member. In days gone by, Nigel pleaded with me to join Ukip; he was a guest at my wedding and visited Lark Rise Farm. When, in 2008, I was mysteriously disqualified from Ukip’s MEP selection process, I phoned Nigel, who blamed Ukip’s “political committee”.

At a public meeting shortly afterwards, the party chairman was asked who was on the political committee. He replied: “Nigel Farage.” With friends like that, who needs enemies? At the debate I shall be wearing a back-protector – I want to ensure that I can’t be stabbed from behind twice.

Interestingly, another who has benefited from Nigel’s “friendship” in a vaguely similar way in the past, and who has also been lost to Ukip, is Richard North, collaborator in all things nonsensical about the EU with the Sunday Telegraph’s stalwart Christopher Booker. What a loss for the sake of a political ego.

Even more interestingly, in 2008 Ukip was “green”. Since then it appears to have been “ungreened” by positioning itself well to the right of Margaret Thatcher on the free market and globalisation – presumably at the behest of the “political committee” again.

While at the Game Fair, visitors will be able to simultaneously celebrate another great event, “National Countryside Week” (July 14-20), started by the Prince’s Countryside Fund in 2010. Already it has raised nearly £4  million for rural-based enterprises and causes. If only more politicians would take the interests of the countryside as seriously as the Prince of Wales. Attendees will be able to “Walk a Country Mile” — any distance they like, in fact — to make a contribution to the Fund. More details on page 18 of Weekend, and in the special Countryside Week edition of Life tomorrow. There will be a celebrity walk too, with Alan Titchmarsh, England rugby captain Phil Vickery and J B Gill from boy-band JLS. Sorry, I can tell you nothing about JLS as I am stuck in the time-warp of The Wurzels – and proud of it.

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The recently published impartiality review produced for the BBC Trust describes in a very restrained way how disgracefully the BBC regards the Game Fair and the Countryside Alliance. It points out that there will be about the same number of people attending the Game Fair as attend Glastonbury– the difference, of course, is that Glastonbury streams constantly through all the BBC’s main outlets for more than the festival’s three days, whereas when the Game Fair is in full swing, how many minutes will be broadcast by Countryfile, The One Show, the Today programme, Farming Today and so on “live from the Game Fair”? Let’s wait and see.

Yet, as the report says, millions are involved with country sports. There are 500,000 game shooters alone and two million hectares (nearly five million acres) actively managed for conservation because of shooting. Then there are the people the report does not mention – the beaters, the gamekeepers, the gunmakers, the butchers and the people like me who do not shoot but enjoy eating roast pheasant.

The report also mentions the “fraught” relationship between the Countryside Alliance and the BBC – and, of course, it is only “fraught” because so many BBC programme makers do not understand the countryside and have prejudiced, “townie” views concerning country sports.

In evidence submitted to the report, Steve Peacock, former editor of Farming Today and agricultural adviser to The Archers, sums it up best: “The BBC has got better about nations and regions, about ethnic minorities but not about including the rural dimension.” So much for the BBC’s take on the modern-day obsession with “equality and diversity”.

It still grates with me that both David Bellamy and I were erased from the BBC because of our support for the Countryside Marches organised by the Countryside Alliance (and our views of the EU). The irony is that neither of us hunts, shoots or fishes.

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The Game Fairjust oozes the “real” countryside. There are so many brilliant artists and sculptors whose work can be seen there – Rodger McPhail, Ashley Boon, Simon Gudgeon and many more. Yet they too are often ignored by chunks of the mainstream non-sporting media who should be interested in their outstanding talent. Oh, I almost forgot the wonderful Tania Still, who painted the fantastic fox hound Corset, which I walked when she was a puppy. The incredible Corset, now 14 years old, is still alive and well and enjoying her retirement living with my sister Rachael. What a dog – sorry, hound. I deliberately leave my chequebook and credit cards at home when visiting the Game Fair so that I don’t act too impulsively when I see a picture I like.

Fly casting in the lakes and the activities in the main ring inevitably attract me. I love the parade of hounds, as well; the relationship between the huntsman and his pack is astonishing, as is the bond between man and dog. To me, as a non-hunter, the “hunting ban” remains an illiberal act of undiluted prejudice and shame. And now manufactured pressure is building up on shooting, too.

Then there are the terrier races, falconry displays and so much more. The Game Fair shows that, despite the urbanisation of Britain, and the BBC’s coverage of the countryside, the heart of the “real” countryside still beats strong.

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Now I have a confession to make. In addition to the Game Fair, visiting Blenheim is almost like a pilgrimage for me. It is the original home of one of my favourite apples, the Blenheim Orange. The apple was found by a tailor named George Kempster, at Blenheim, in about 1740. He then grew it on from pips and, because of its outstanding taste, it quickly spread across Europe and America. When horticulturist and brewer Richard Cox later crossed it with a Ribston Pippin, it became the unbeatable Cox’s Orange Pippin – and our next crop looks promising in the garden, gales permitting.

To view the origional article & numerous others about the countryside by Robin CLICK HERE

 

For more information on the CLA Game Fair:

Web Site: gamefair.co.uk Twitter: @thegamefair Facebook: Facebook.com/clagamefair

Whilst on the subject of the countryside it is worth noting The Government Cabinet reshuffle – Owen Paterson must be very pleased to have been relieved of his role as Countryside Minister as he is no longer bound by Cabinet constraints and can take up his position as a leading EUroSceptic.
May I suggest, nay even hazzard a guess, that we may even see him ‘break cover’ shortly and position himself to lead the Leave-The-EU campaign in the referendum, which The Farage Cult are doing so much to damage, Owen paterson in place would of course silence Farage’s self serving and dishonest antics and with the well reasoned ‘EXit & Survival Plan’ as presented by FleXcit supporting him he would be in a good position to work towards a NO vote and implementation of Article #50 by the British Government to Leave-The-EU.
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> GUEST POST Showing The Ineptitude Of The Farage Cult

Posted by Greg Lance-Watkins on 13/07/2014

> GUEST POST Showing The Ineptitude Of The Farage Cult
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Showing The Ineptitude Of Patrick O’Flynn, Nigel Farage & The Farage Cult that is UKIP!

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having had my attention drawn to this pronouncement by the inept Patrick O’Flynn, who it would seem bought his position in the leading position as an MEP candidate for the Farage Cult by prostituting his position as a journalist for the Express ‘news wrapper’ where he was presumably salaried as a reporter of political new but abused his position by using his employers ‘paper’ as a vehicle for UKIP propaganda, which was seemingly rewarded with an MEPship by The Glorious Leader (TGL) Nigel Farage of the Farage Cult.

Realising O’Flynn’s pronouncement on the party web site was complete factual rubbish, following on the heels of the off the cuff dishonest bunkum by TGL regarding NGO funding by the EU when he claimed Greenpeace was directly funded by The EU of which neither Greenpeace’s nor The EU’s books show one Iota of proof.

I decided it was suitable for this blog which aims to expose corruption, stupidity and incompetence in UKIP in an effort to clean-up the scam and make it a party fit for purpose to lead Britain to Leave-The-EU, which clearly under Nigel Farage’s inept andf self serving leadership it is not!
Having decided to use the foolsih comments of O’Flynn as an example I spent the day enjoying the sunshine, which is my wont hence the reduction of factual articles on this blog (so may I suggest the Farage Cult pray for a continuance of this good weather!).
When I got around to doing something about the research for the article I find I was not alone in realising the standard of  accuracy of UKIP was as ever risible and numerous well informed individuals were well aware of the folly of ‘O’Flynn’s propaganda and as they had written the matter up I have opted, in indollence, to GUEST POST an article on the subject (to enjoy more sunshine).
GUEST POST:

 UKIP: the embarrassing stupidity of O’Flynn

 Saturday 12 July 2014

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To view this UKIP official bunkum CLICK HERE
Following the example of TGL in falsely accusing Greenpeace of taking Brussels money, UKIP’s Patrick O’Flynn is now vying for the top slot in getting things completely wrong.

Falling for the meme that has been floating around on diverse websites, including this one, we see the myth perpetrated that: “On the 1st November 2014 the right of Parliament to legislate over us in 43 areas … will be removed and be made subject to … QMV”.

Included in a magical mystery list is Article 50 of the TEU – that which relates to the procedures for leaving the EU – the supposed removal of the veto translated as making the withdrawal of a member state conditional on QMV. Needless to say, there are no original sources cited for the assertions, but that doesn’t stop O’Flynn swallowing the myth, hook, line and sinker.

In fact, there is no loss of veto coming into force on 1 November. The change over from unanimous voting to QMV in about 40 areas has already taken place. It came with the entry into force of the Lisbon Treaty on 1 December 2009, so these changes have already been in place for nearly five years, without O’Flynn apparently noticing.

What does change on 1 November 2014 is that a there is a new system of QMV. A new “double majority” will apply when, according to Article 16 of the consolidated treaty, “a qualified majority shall be defined as at least 55% of the members of the Council, comprising at least fifteen of them and representing Member States comprising at least 65% of the population of the Union”.

Despite the sterling attempts of Denis Cooper, Autonomous Mind and this post by Boiling Frog, followed by this one to put the record straight, this has not stopped Patrick O’Flynn urging party members to support a new petition that calls for the Government to begin moves to leave the EU “before the wholesale loss of national vetoes occurs”.

Sadly, there is no stopping this rather stupid man, even if his members deserve better. It is bad enough having these silly memes thrashing around the internet, but senior members of UKIP should not be leading people astray.

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The items to which Patrick O’Flynn would seem to be claiming I list below but draw your attention to the fact that the Lisbon New Constitution Treaty, which was unopposed in The UK by Nigel Farage’s cult and UKIP at large, passed into Treaty Law and those agreed areas of competence covered by The Nice Treaty come into effect as subject to QMV on 01-Nov-2014 through to March 2017.
Administrative co-operation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Asylum – Nice: QMV; Lisbon: QMV
Border controls – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Citizens’ initiative regulations – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Civil protection – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Committee of the Regions – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Common defence policy – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Crime prevention incentives – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Criminal judicial co-operation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Criminal law – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Culture – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Diplomatic & Consular protection – Nice: Unanimity Lisbon: QMV
Economic & Social Committee – Nice: QMV Lisbon: QMV
Emergency international aid – Nice: Unanimity Lisbon: QMV
Energy – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
EU budget – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Eurojust – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
European Central Bank – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
European Court of Justice – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Europol – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Eurozone external representation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Foreign Affairs High Representative election – Lisbon: QMV
Freedom of movement for workers – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Freedom to establish a business – Nice: Unanimity Lisbon QMV
Freedom, security, justice, co-operation & evaluation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Funding the Common Foreign & Security Policy – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
General economic interest services – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Humanitarian aid – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Immigration – Nice: QMV; Lisbon: QMV
Intellectual property – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Organisation of the Council of the EU – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Police co-operation – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
President of the European Council election – Lisbon: QMV
Response to natural disasters & terrorism – Lisbon: QMV
Rules concerning the Armaments Agency – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Self-employment access rights – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Social Security Unanimity – Nice: QMV; Lisbon: QMV
Space – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Sport – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Structural & Cohension Funds – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Tourism – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Transport – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV
Withdrawal of a member state – Lisbon: QMV
During their daily check on this blog to see if they can concoct a legal excuse to silence me perhaps UKIP staff and MEPs might care to take note of certain facts regarding QMV (in this instance selected on a Finnish web site):
 The treaty reform process started in December 2000 in Nice, but the voting rules of the Council of the European Union are going to take full effect only in April 2017 – if the Treaty of Lisbon enters into force.

It is hardly the overpowering strength of the European Union we as EU citizens have to fear, but its impotence.

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Current treaty

The member states have been accorded votes in the Council roughly in line with their population numbers. Article 205 of the Treaty establishing the European Community (TEC) is found in the latest consolidated version of the treaties, published in the Official Journal of the European Union (OJEU) 29.12.2006 C 321 E/136-137.

A few days later, on 1 January 2007, Bulgaria and Romania joined the European Union. But the amendment of Article 205 TEC by the 2003 Act of Accession, and the situation after the entry of Bulgaria and Romania is indicated only by a footnote and presented in an Appendix to the consolidated treaty (starting on page 325).

By inserting the changes, we present Article 205 TEC as it is in force since 1 January 2007:

Article 205 TEC

1. Save as otherwise provided in this Treaty, the Council shall act by a majority of its Members.

2. Where the Council is required to act by a qualified majority, the votes of its Members shall be weighted as follows:

Belgium 12‘
Bulgaria 10
Czech Republic 12
Denmark 7
Germany 29
Estonia 4
Greece 12
Spain 27
France 29
Ireland 7
Italy 29
Cyprus 4
Latvia 4
Lithuania 7
Luxembourg 4
Hungary 12
Malta 3
Netherlands 13
Austria 10
Poland 27
Portugal 12
Romania 14’.
Slovenia 4
Slovakia 7
Finland 7
Sweden 10
United Kingdom 29

Acts of the Council shall require for their adoption at least 255 votes in favour cast by a majority of the members where this Treaty requires them to be adopted on a proposal from the Commission.

In other cases, for their adoption acts of the Council shall require at least 255 votes in favour, cast by at least two thirds of the members.

3. Abstentions by Members present in person or represented shall not prevent the adoption by the Council of acts which require unanimity.

4. When a decision is to be adopted by the Council by a qualified majority, a member of the Council may request verification that the Member States constituting the qualified majority represent at least 62% of the total population of the Union. If that condition is shown not to have been met, the decision in question shall not be adopted.

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Original Lisbon Treaty

The original Treaty of Lisbon was signed by the heads of state or government on 13 December 2007. It contains horizontal (general) amendments, i.e. terms used throughout the treaties, and amendments specific to each Article. The Lisbon Treaty was published in the OJEU 17.12.2007 C 306.

The specific amendments to Article 205 TEC, to become the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) were (OJEU 17.12.2007 C 306/104-105):
:
191) Article 205 shall be amended as follows:

(a) paragraphs 1 and 2 shall be replaced by the following:

‘1. Where it is required to act by a simple majority, the Council shall act by a majority of its component members.

2. By way of derogation from Article 9 C(4) of the Treaty on European Union, as from 1 November 2014 and subject to the provisions laid down in the Protocol on transitional provisions, where the Council does not act on a proposal from the Commission or from the High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, the qualified majority shall be defined as at least 72 % of the members of the Council, representing Member States comprising at least 65 % of the population of the Union.

3. As from 1 November 2014 and subject to the provisions laid down in the Protocol on transitional provisions, in cases where, under the Treaties, not all the members of the Council participate in voting, a qualified majority shall be defined as follows:

(a) A qualified majority shall be defined as at least 55 % of the members of the Council representing the participating Member States, comprising at least 65 % of the population of these States.

A blocking minority must include at least the minimum number of Council members representing more than 35 % of the population of the participating Member States, plus one member, failing which the qualified majority shall be deemed attained;

(b) By way of derogation from point (a), where the Council does not act on a proposal from the Commission or from the High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, the qualified majority shall be defined as at least 72 % of the members of the Council representing the participating Member States, comprising at least 65 % of the population of these States.’.

(b) paragraph 4 shall be deleted and paragraph 3 shall be renumbered 4.

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Comment

We have to wait until 1 November 2014 for the new rules on qualified majority voting to take effect. Even then they are subject to further delays under the Protocol on transitional provisions.

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Consolidated Lisbon Treaty

After a few months and the publication of a number of “private” consolidations, the Council graciously published a readable (consolidated) version of the Lisbon Treaty, first on its web pages in April and then in the Official Journal, on Europe Day 2008. In part, the amended Article 205 TEC became Article 238 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) (OJEU 9.5.2008 C 115/153-154):

Article 238 TFEU
(ex Article 205(1) and (2), TEC)

1. Where it is required to act by a simple majority, the Council shall act by a majority of its component members.

2. By way of derogation from Article 16(4) of the Treaty on European Union, as from 1 November 2014 and subject to the provisions laid down in the Protocol on transitional provisions, where the Council does not act on a proposal from the Commission or from the High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, the qualified majority shall be defined as at least 72 % of the members of the Council, representing Member States comprising at least 65 % of the population of the Union.

3. As from 1 November 2014 and subject to the provisions laid down in the Protocol on transitional provisions, in cases where, under the Treaties, not all the members of the Council participate in voting, a qualified majority shall be defined as follows:

(a) A qualified majority shall be defined as at least 55 % of the members of the Council representing the participating Member States, comprising at least 65 % of the population of these States.

A blocking minority must include at least the minimum number of Council members representing more than 35 % of the population of the participating Member States, plus one member, failing which the qualified majority shall be deemed attained;

(b) By way of derogation from point (a), where the Council does not act on a proposal from the Commission or from the High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, the qualified majority shall be defined as at least 72 % of the members of the Council representing the participating Member States, comprising at least 65 % of the population of these States.

4. Abstentions by Members present in person or represented shall not prevent the adoption by the
Council of acts which require unanimity.

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Article 16(4) and (5) TEU

The basic provisions on voting in the Council are paragraphs 4 and 5 of Article 16 of the Treaty on European Union (TEU), presented here as a reminder (OJEU 9.5.2008 C 115/24):

Article 16(4) and (5) TEU

4. As from 1 November 2014, a qualified majority shall be defined as at least 55 % of the members of the Council, comprising at least fifteen of them and representing Member States comprising at least 65 % of the population of the Union.

A blocking minority must include at least four Council members, failing which the qualified majority shall be deemed attained.

The other arrangements governing the qualified majority are laid down in Article 238(2) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.

5. The transitional provisions relating to the definition of the qualified majority which shall be applicable until 31 October 2014 and those which shall be applicable from 1 November 2014 to 31 March 2017 are laid down in the Protocol on transitional provisions.

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Protocol on transitional provisions

Protocol (No 36) on transitional provisions is an illustration of treaty reform, which requires unanimous agreement between the member states and ratification by every member state. Three different stages are distinguished.

1) From the entry into force of the Treaty of Lisbon until 31 October 2014 the current rules on voting remain in force.
2) In principle, the Lisbon Treaty rules on qualified majority voting (QMV) are in effect between 1 November 2014 and 31 March 2017, subject to a request by a member of the Council to apply the old rules.
3) From 1 April 2017 the intended rules of the Lisbon Treaty become operational.

Protocol (No 36) on transitional provisions (excerpt; OJEU 9.5.2008 C 115/322-323):

PROTOCOL (No 36)
ON TRANSITIONAL PROVISIONS

THE HIGH CONTRACTING PARTIES,

WHEREAS, in order to organise the transition from the institutional provisions of the Treaties applicable prior to the entry into force of the Treaty of Lisbon to the provisions contained in that Treaty, it is necessary to lay down transitional provisions,

HAVE AGREED UPON the following provisions, which shall be annexed to the Treaty on European Union, to the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union and to the Treaty establishing the European Atomic Energy Community:

Article 1

In this Protocol, the words ‘the Treaties’ shall mean the Treaty on European Union, the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union and the Treaty establishing the European Atomic Energy Community.

—–

TITLE II
PROVISIONS CONCERNING THE QUALIFIED MAJORITY

Article 3

1. In accordance with Article 16(4) of the Treaty on European Union, the provisions of that paragraph and of Article 238(2) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union relating to the definition of the qualified majority in the European Council and the Council shall take effect on 1 November 2014.

2. Between 1 November 2014 and 31 March 2017, when an act is to be adopted by qualified majority, a member of the Council may request that it be adopted in accordance with the qualified majority as defined in paragraph 3. In that case, paragraphs 3 and 4 shall apply.

3. Until 31 October 2014, the following provisions shall remain in force, without prejudice to the second subparagraph of Article 235(1) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.

For acts of the European Council and of the Council requiring a qualified majority, members’ votes shall be weighted as follows:

Belgium 12
Bulgaria 10
Czech Republic 12
Denmark 7
Germany 29
Estonia 4
Ireland 7
Greece 12
Spain 27
France 29
Italy 29
Cyprus 4
Latvia 4
Lithuania 7
Luxembourg 4
Hungary 12
Malta 3
Netherlands 13
Austria 10
Poland 27
Portugal 12
Romania 14
Slovenia 4
Slovakia 7
Finland 7
Sweden 10
United Kingdom 29

Acts shall be adopted if there are at least 255 votes in favour representing a majority of the members where, under the Treaties, they must be adopted on a proposal from the Commission. In other cases decisions shall be adopted if there are at least 255 votes in favour representing at least two thirds of the members.

A member of the European Council or the Council may request that, where an act is adopted by the European Council or the Council by a qualified majority, a check is made to ensure that the Member States comprising the qualified majority represent at least 62 % of the total population of the Union. If that proves not to be the case, the act shall not be adopted.

4. Until 31 October 2014, the qualified majority shall, in cases where, under the Treaties, not all the members of the Council participate in voting, namely in the cases where reference is made to the qualified majority as defined in Article 238(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union, be defined as the same proportion of the weighted votes and the same proportion of the number of the Council members and, if appropriate, the same percentage of the population of the Member States concerned as laid down in paragraph 3 of this Article.

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On a different note I gather Nigel Farage’s old flatmate Godfrey Bloom, despite his denouncing Farage’s womanising most publicly and his having been overhead telling Herman Ke3lly an EFD goffer running flack and spin for TGL that effectively he should run along and stop making a fool of himself having threaterned Bloom with court action if he dared to repeat the fact that Nigel Farage had a sexual relationship with Annabelle Fuller and would likely bankrupt UKIP were he so stupid!
Despite Bloom’s rather belated various announcements of the truth to journalists and others regarding UKIP’s inner machinations and those of TGL in particular I gather Bloom was approached to wt nurse the incoming batch of thoroughly inept and inadequate UKIP MEPs none of whom would seem to be upto the job or carry with them the remotest gravitas, many of whom it has been shown bought their way to their own preferment and a number of whom clearly seek their own enrichment both of stature and income, a number being rejects and failures from the Tory Party.
I gather the new position as wet nurse was to be unsalaried! Whether Farage is still looking for someone to do his job for Free I do not know, but I do note he has sidestepped the bulk of his responsibility by appointing the Tory reject Roger Helmer as leader of UKIP in the EU – whilst he moves on to greater rewards and income as leader of the extremist and all too racist EFDD.

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Has Cameron Created His Own & Farage’s Worst Nighmare?

Posted by Greg Lance-Watkins on 12/07/2014

Has Cameron Created His Own & Farage’s Worst Nighmare?
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Has David Cameron Created His Own & Nigel Farage’s Worst Nightmare, with both Owen Paterson & Liam Fox as big hitterts both now able and willing to speak out & tell the truth about The EU – actively campaigning to Leave_The_EU?

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neither Owen Paterson quoted extensively below nor Liam Fox who featured in today’s Times can be as easily dismissed as others when it comes to views on membership of the EU – as both are clearly experienced big hitters and there is no element to the publicity seeking clown about either of them.
All too readily others who have opposed membership of the EU can be dismissed as lightweights seeking attention or enrichment by representing a populist view and unlike others there is no element of reject nor failure about these two men, who have clearly thought the issues through and can measure the facts against actual experience in high office and not just as irrelevant EU makewights as MEPs clearly are.
Further with the adoption of responsible and clearly thought through plans for the methodology of Leaving_The_EU they do offer a responsible eXit and survival strategy in the form of The FleXcit plan which is more than adequate in its coverage and growing apace in its detail – unlike UKip who have never been able to present a workable eXit and survival strategy in their 21 years despite much braying!
Even to this day there are some in UKip and even on the back benches of the Tory Party who would be naiive enough to believe that to Leave_The_EU is but a simple matter of passing an Act of Parliament repealing our membership! Some are so ill informed and gullible as to believe that Article #50 is some form of trap, showing just how expensive are the tin foil hatters and conspiracy thjeorists amongst the ranks of EUroSceptics.
Sadly tyhe naiive  who have been duped into the belief that rescinding our membership would be simple it is clear they can not be blamed because why should they be better informed having put their trust in politicians who have not only created this evil monster but embroilled these United Kingdoms in the mess which was their dream – these are the same self styled political elite who are either so stupid as to believe or so dishonest as to claim that the EU can be reformed and powers repatriated.
Do not forget that some who sold our Country out to be vassals of the new EU Empire were so corrupt and treacherous as to boast they had not read the documents they had not only voted for but signed!

Owen Paterson: I’m proud of standing up to the green lobby

Writing for The Telegraph, the former environment secretary, Owen Paterson, says he is proud of standing up to the green lobby

Owen Paterson, says he is proud of standing up to the green lobby

Owen Paterson, says he is proud of standing up to the green lobby  Photo: AFP

Every prime minister has the right to choose his team to take Britain into the general election and I am confident that my able successor at Defra, Liz Truss, will do an excellent job. It has been a privilege to take on the challenges of the rural economy and environment. However, I leave the post with great misgivings about the power and irresponsibility of – to coin a phrase – the Green Blob.

By this I mean the mutually supportive network of environmental pressure groups, renewable energy companies and some public officials who keep each other well supplied with lavish funds, scare stories and green tape. This tangled triangle of unelected busybodies claims to have the interests of the planet and the countryside at heart, but it is increasingly clear that it is focusing on the wrong issues and doing real harm while profiting handsomely.

Local conservationists on the ground do wonderful work to protect and improve wild landscapes, as do farmers, rural businesses and ordinary people. They are a world away from the highly paid globe-trotters of the Green Blob who besieged me with their self-serving demands, many of which would have harmed the natural environment.

I soon realised that the greens and their industrial and bureaucratic allies are used to getting things their own way. I received more death threats in a few months at Defra than I ever did as secretary of state for Northern Ireland. My home address was circulated worldwide with an incitement to trash it; I was burnt in effigy by Greenpeace as I was recovering from an operation to save my eyesight. But I did not set out to be popular with lobbyists and I never forgot that they were not the people I was elected to serve.

Indeed, I am proud that my departure was greeted with such gloating by spokespeople for the Green Party and Friends of the Earth.

It was not my job to do the bidding of two organisations that are little more than anti-capitalist agitprop groups most of whose leaders could not tell a snakeshead fritillary from a silver-washed fritillary. I saw my task as improving both the environment and the rural economy; many in the green movement believed in neither.

Their goal was to enhance their own income streams and influence by myth making and lobbying. Would they have been as determined to blacken my name if I was not challenging them rather effectively?

When I arrived at Defra I found a department that had become under successive Labour governments a milch cow for the Green Blob.

Just as Michael Gove set out to refocus education policy on the needs of children rather than teachers and bureaucrats and Iain Duncan Smith set out to empower the most vulnerable, so I began to reorganise the department around four priorities: to grow the rural economy, to improve the environment, and to safeguard both plant and animal health.

The Green Blob sprouts especially vigorously in Brussels. The European Commission website reveals that a staggering 150 million euros (£119  million) was paid to the top nine green NGOs from 2007-13.

European Union officials give generous grants to green groups so that they will lobby it for regulations that then require large budgets to enforce. When I attended a council meeting of elected EU ministers on shale gas in Lithuania last year, we were lectured by a man using largely untrue clichés about the dangers of shale gas. We discovered that he was from the European Environment Bureau, an umbrella group for unelected, taxpayer-subsidised green lobby groups. Speaking of Europe, I remain proud to have achieved some renegotiations.

The discard ban ends the scandalous practice of throwing away perfectly edible fish, we broke the council deadlock on GM crops, so decisions may be repatriated to member countries and we headed off bans on fracking. Judge me by my opponents.

When I proposed a solution to the dreadful suffering of cattle, badgers and farmers as a result of the bovine tuberculosis epidemic that Labour allowed to develop, I was opposed by rich pop stars who had never been faced with having to cull a pregnant heifer. (Interestingly, very recent local evidence suggests the decline in TB in the cull area may already have begun.)

When I spoke up for the landscapes of this beautiful country against the heavily subsidised industry that wants to spoil them with wind turbines at vast cost to ordinary people, vast reward to rich landowners and undetectable effects on carbon dioxide emissions, I was frustrated by colleagues from the so-called Liberal Democrat Party.

When I encouraged the search for affordable energy from shale gas to help grow the rural economy and lift people out of fuel poverty, I was opposed by a dress designer for whom energy bills are trivial concerns.

When I championed brilliant scientists demonstrating genetic modifications to rice to save the lives of hundreds of thousands of children in developing countries, I was vilified by a luxury organic chocolate tycoon uninterested in the demonstrable environmental and humanitarian benefits of GM crops.

When faced with the flooding of the Somerset Levels I refused to make the popular and false excuse of blaming it on global warming, but set out to reverse the policy inherited from a Labour peeress and serial quangocrat who had expressed the wish to “place a limpet mine on every pumping station”, while deliberately allowing the silting up of drainage channels.

When I set out to shatter the crippling orthodoxy that growing the rural economy and improving the environment are mutually exclusive, I was ridiculed by a public school journalist who thinks the solution to environmental problems is “an ordered and structured downsizing of the global economy”. Back to the Stone Age, in other words, but Glastonbury-style.

Yes, I’ve annoyed these people, but they don’t represent the real countryside of farmers and workers, of birds and butterflies.

Like the nationalised industries and obstructive trade unions of the 1970s, the Green Blob has become a powerful self-serving caucus; it is the job of the elected politician to stand up to them. We must have the courage to tackle it head on, as Tony Abbott in Australia and Stephen Harper in Canada have done, or the economy and the environment will both continue to suffer.

* Owen Paterson is a former secretary of state for environment, food and rural affairs.

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This week, Booker takes up cudgels on behalf of Owen Paterson. Of all David Cameron’s moves in that bizarre reshuffle, he writes, one told us more about his judgement and character than any. It is hard to recall recently a more direct political insult than his contemptuous sacking of our Environment Secretary; a man who, below the media radar, has been the most effective of all his ministers.

The feelings of those aware of what Paterson achieved in two hectic years were expressed on Friday when he attended the Game Fair in Oxfordshire. Mentions of his name twice brought standing ovations from hundreds of disbelieving country folk, once in response to a fulsome tribute paid him by Nigel Farage.

When Paterson was made Secretary of State for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs he was, in practical terms, far better qualified for the post than anyone in the House of Commons. Some years earlier, as a countryman himself, he was a superbly well-briefed front-bench spokesman on agriculture and fisheries, travelling the world to meet experts on the scourge of bovine TB and fisheries management.

In September 2012, he took over a department that for years had been a sadly dysfunctional backwater, not least because, more than any other ministry, almost all its vast and complex responsibilities, from farming and fisheries to water and waste management, are subordinate to policies originating in Brussels.

One of his more remarkable achievements, as a “Eurosceptic” but also as a good French and German speaker, was the way he quickly came to play a leading role in all those endless meetings with his European counterparts, working the Brussels system as cleverly as any British minister has ever done, winning respect by his practical grasp and good humour even from those who disagreed with him.

Gradually, he galvanised Defra out of its long sleep, turning it into an effective player, as we saw nowhere more than in my own county of Somerset, where he made such a decisive intervention in last winter’s floods crisis and won the gratitude of hundreds of farmers for his masterminding of our remarkably successful badger cull.

This summer, dairy farms that have been losing scores of cattle every year to TB are reporting that, for the first time in decades, their herds are free of infection.

In “Westminster bubble” and media terms, none of this has counted for anything. Enraged green activists and their media allies tried to paint Paterson as “the worst environment minister ever”, while out in the countryside he is rated as easily the best.

But the tsunami of vitriolic green propaganda is all that the denizens of No 10 seemed to notice. Mr Cameron and his urban advisers were so embarrassed by the anti-Paterson hate campaign, over everything from badgers to wind farms, fracking to GM crops, that he had to be fired.

The respect Paterson had won in fighting for common sense and British interests, not just from millions of country folk but from his opposite numbers in Brussels, was far less important than what were perceived to be the electoral interests of his party.

He is replaced by a woman who appears to have no qualifications for the job and who will be totally out of her depth in Brussels. Defra will once again sink back into its dysfunctional torpor, under a minister wholly in the hands of officials who will have to tell her what to say, think and do about everything.

Cameron’s treatment of his most effective minister is not just an insult to Paterson – it is also an insult to the countryside and to the political process; a surrender to those who put mindless spin above the need to see our country sensibly and intelligently run.

When the epitaph comes to be written on Cameron’s bid to create a “Not the Conservative Party”, Booker concludes, the ignominious sacking of Owen Paterson will be seen as one of the most revealing of all his many mistakes.

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Ex UKIP Leader Standing For Tories In Thanet

Posted by Greg Lance-Watkins on 06/07/2014

 

Ex UKIP Leader Standing For Tories In Thanet
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Ex UKIP Leader Craig MacKinlay, who quit The Farage Cult in 2005, is Standing For The Tories In Thanet in the general election in 2015.

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it is a bitter irony for the Farage cult that after long years of desperate efforts to attract sitting Tory MPs, having only attracted the Tory’s failures and rejects, now the closest they are likely to come to having an MP elected, to Westminster next year, may well be an ex UKIP leader of UKIP who defected to the Tories several years ago.
Farage’s party has always been seen as a protest party as shown by their dismal showing in UK domestic elections when you consider they haven’t had a single candidate even come close to being elected to Westminster even in a by-election with all the odds on their side, as when they used the enbittered ex Tory long term MEP when they were riding the crest of there wve after the EU elections.
A measure of their failure in domestic politics has been their failure to have a single Mayor and the faxt that more Independents were elected as Police Crime Commissioners by a long shot than Farage had any chance of whilst their percentage of Councillors across the country has been risible and a significant number of them have had to resign due to their racist outbursts and general idiocy!
Now Craig MacKinlay stands every chance of being elected in Thanet possibly running against Farage, whose best achievement to date in Thanet, where he stood in 2005, was a meagre 2,079 votes and when he stood against John Berkow in Berkshire with both Labbour & the Lib.Dims. fielding no candidate in respect for the parliamentary convention of not standing against The Speaker of the House, he was beaten into third place by a relatively unknown Independent & Farage obtained a poor third with only 8%.
Craig MacKinlay stands every probability of being elected to the seat when he stands in 2015 to replace the Tory MP, Laura Sandys when she stands down. There is every possibility that Farage will not stand against MacKinlay as it would be the death nell of his party were he to be defeated in such a clash, as it would show all too clearly he has converted his party to a cult rather than as a serious political contender in domestic politics.
Having surrounded himself with ‘Praise Singers’ whom he has hansomely rewarded in return for their sycophancy and in some cases cash, with places high on his MEP selection list – thus having a gaggle of stunningly insignioficant and largely irrelevant MEPs willing to turn a blind eye to the racism and extremisim of many of UKIP’s members and particularly Farage’s chosen associates to build his ‘Milch Cow’ in the EU parliament for his EFDD vehicle.

Ex-Ukip leader Craig Mackinlay set to stand as Conservative MP for Thanet South

Thanet South was believed to be one of the constituencies Ukip leader Nigel Farage could have contested in next year’s general election

An ex-Ukip leader has been selected to stand as the Conservative candidate for the Kent constituency of Thanet South in next year’s general election.

Craig Mackinlay has been chosen by the Conservative Party to replace Laura Sandys as the candidate for the election set to take place in May 2015.

Mackinlay, who temporarily led Ukip in 1997 before being replaced by Michael Holmes, said in June that there was a “distinct possibility” that he could stand as the Tory candidate for the seat.

In 2005, Farage finished fourth when he stood in the same constituency, and it is believed he is eyeing up the seat for next year’s election.

A decision on which constituency Farage will contest is expected to be announced later this summer.

Mackinlay began his political career in the early 1990s as part of Alan Sked’s Anti-Federalist League, the party that would later become the UK Independence Party.

After being chosen as the person to replace Sked, he lost a leadership vote to Michael Holmes in 1997 and was demoted to the role of Ukip’s Deputy Leader until 2000.

Remaining active in the party for another five years, in 2005 he decided to switch allegiances and join the Conservative Party where he has served as a Tory councillor in the Medway council ever since.

He was also chosen as the Conservative candidate for Kent’s first ever Police and Crime Commissioner Elections in November 2012.

Farage has refused to comment on the Conservative’s decision to put forward his former Ukip colleague for the seat.

Mr Mackinlay will be up against Will Scobie (Labour), Russ Timpson (Liberal Democrats) and Ian Driver (Green Party)

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Farage’s Cult Squabbling Like Ferrets In A Sack – AGAIN!

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Plans to oust Ukip chairman Victor Webb


KNIVES appear to be out for the long-standing Tunbridge Wells Ukip boss with plans to oust him as chairman of the party’s local branch.

Victor Webb, who secured the first Ukip seat on Tunbridge Wells Borough Council in 2011, is under threat from members of his own party.

An extraordinary general meeting has been called for Wednesday where members will be urged to vote him out as chairman of Ukip Tunbridge Wells constituency branch.

Mr Webb told the Courier: “They will vote to replace me.

“I think people have been told ‘the committee can’t get on with him’ or ‘the committee can’t work with him’ and that it would be better if I stood down.

“I don’t know how it will go. I think if all the membership were fully invited, in the circumstances, they would not like it and not vote for it (but) I don’t know if all members have been invited.

“I don’t even know yet where the meeting is being held.”

Mr Webb was a high-profile local campaigner for Ukip for 14 years before he was elected on to the borough council.

He has the highest attendance record out of all the council’s 48 members, having attended 48 meetings in the last municipal year.

He was a familiar feature at the Millennium Clock – which he dubbed ‘Tunbridge Wells’ own Speaker’s Corner – with a loud hailer and his bulldog dressed in a Union Flag.

Mr Webb said he believed fellow Ukip member and borough councillor Piers Wauchope – who won the second seat in Mr Webb’s ward of Rusthall two years ago – was behind the plan to turf him out.

Mr Wauchope attended five borough council meetings in the past year.

Asked how he would feel if he was ousted, Mr Webb said: “I would feel let down and feel it was manoeuvring by Piers who seems to be on his own agenda. I have spent 14 years slogging away for Ukip, I believe in its principles and I am hoping Piers will be removed and when he is there will be a happy ship again. One member of Ukip has written to me and said ‘this stinks’.”

Asked if he would consider standing as an independent because of the political plotting, he said: “I have considered going independent.”

The minutes of Ukip’s committee meeting on May 28 state: “A proposal was carried that an extraordinary general meeting of the Tunbridge Wells branch be called to consider a motion to be proposed by councillor Piers Wauchope and seconded by Chris Hoare that the councillor Victor Webb be replaced as chairman of the Tunbridge Wells Ukip branch.”

When asked directly if he was lobbying to oust his local party chairman, Mr Wauchope refused to reply, stating: “Victor is the hardest-working councillor in Tunbridge Wells and a great asset not only for Rusthall but for everyone in the borough.”

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UKIP vs EUkip – FlexCit offers the UK an EU Exit and Survival strategy

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UKIP vs EUkip – FleXcit offers the UK an EU Exit and Survival strategy.

I make no apology for the length of this post as it is aimed for those who are seriously interested in leaving the EU and realise the need for a workable and ethical eXit and Survival strategy.
I believe the time is now right, with the passing of the Euro Elections, to refocus this thread, by adding to the title, to thus change the emphasis from the exploits of Nigel’s EUkip to the challenge of getting UKIP and others to adopt a workable eXit and Survival Strategy.

My thanks to the moderators for facilitating this.

The reason for adding to the original title instead of a starting a new thread is to keep the post’s history, context and development as we refocus on the ‘HOW’ best we will actually be able to leave the EU without which I maintain we will never win the battle to leave the EU.

The important consideration now is to win any In/Out referendum ‘if’ and ‘when’ held and not forgetting the all important task of ensuring the outcome, assuming we win, is binding.

Currently I believe the only VIABLE ‘eXit and Survival Plan’ in the public domain is FleXcit as written by Dr Richard North, with contributions from many of those who read his blog EU Referendum blog. Even a recent review of the six finalists in the IEA’s BreXit competition acknowledged that they did NOT provide the definitive solution and another may well be needed.

What is abundantly clear is that without the ‘Outers’ mustering behind a WORKABLE plan the field will be left open to the Establishment and Europhiles to use Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt (FUD) to maintain the status quo. The history of the 1975 referendum proves this point extensively and I highly recommend the well researched and authoritive book on the subject by two fellows of Nuffield College Oxford, David Butler and Uwe Kitzinger unsurprisingly called, ‘The 1975 Referendum’!

This thread was of course started on the 27th February 2011 with the intent of pointing out the differences between where UKIP should be heading and where I and others felt Nigel Farage was leading the party which, to differentiate, I called EUKip. As I asked within days of starting the thread ‘What is UKIP for’?

Despite the new title to this thread, it is still my contention, supported by many others who can see beyond his anti EU rhetoric, that Nigel’s EUkip is not fit for the purpose of helping navigate the UK safely out of the EU. In 21 years EUkip has NEVER put forward an ’eXit & Survival Strategy’ in support of their claim to be seeking an amicable divorce form the EU. Claiming you want something is the easy part but tackling the how and having the power to implement your plans is of course an entirely separate matters both of which Nigel’s EUkip doesn’t come close to – in terms of gravitas, competence or ability –  as proved over the last 21 years.

Since the beginning of this thread I have learned a great deal and been able to hone my arguments over the whole EU debate and after a few faltering early comments and remarks, which I have acknowledged, my aim has been to see UKIP reformed but not destroyed. I have tried endlessly to explain and persuade others that UKIP will never be reformed under Nigel Farage’s divisive cult style leadership and as the apparent Eurosceptic brand leader we need UKIP to appeal beyond its relatively small core vote, shown recently to be a mere 9% of the electorate, to over 50% of the electorate, a level of support obviously needed to win that referendum when called.

Another point I have brought up over and over again is that Nigel Farage has never invested the intellectual effort and time to produce an eXit and Survival plan preferring to concentrate his efforts to achieve electoral success at the Euro and General Elections. However as I have also frequently pointed out UKIP MEPs are about as much good as an ashtray on a motorbike and Nigel’s plans, to concentrate on elections, currently shows no signs of getting an MP to Westminster, especially after the Newark result where they could not have been better placed to win. They were still on the crest of the wave, after their success at the Euro elections, the candidate was the ex-Tory Roger Helmer who was well known in the area, Cameron’s Tories are unpopular with many core Conservatives and finally the out going MP Patrick Mercer was exposed for corruption.

Despite all these factors in UKIP’s favour the Tories won handsomely with 17,431 to UKIP’s 10,020. By any serious analysis this result bodes ill for any prospect UKIP has of gaining a single MP let alone a workable number at the 2015 General Election.

As I have often said Nigel and his cabal have all gone native in Brussels and his latest ‘freebie’ escapade in Malta before the Newark bye election provides all the evidence you need that he always puts his own self interests above those of HIS party.

So how can FleXcit help us leave the EU and what does it advocate?

The FleXcit paper, which I recommend is the sort of document you need to read several times to really start to understand it, is due to be published in the Autumn but you can still read the latest version as it is developed at :-
http://www.flexcit.org/

In summary the plan, which is a play on the words FleXible, eXit and Continuous Development, is just that a FleXible and Continuous Plan to help us Exit safely from the EU, after 40 years of integration, whilst upholding all our international treaty obligations which we are legally and morally obliged to honour, under the terms of the Vienna Treaty on International Treaties. This will allow us once again to gradually take our own seat at the global top table rather than, as we currently are, being represented by an unelected EU official. As we negotiate ourselves out of the EU we will be free to act directly, on the world stage, for our own interests, unfettered by membership of the EU. It is a given, as advocated by any serious commentator and even the recent IEA Brexit competition, that the start point for beginning the process of Britain’s withdrawal from the EU will result from us implementing Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty.

The absolutely vital fact to grasp is that FleXcit advances a flexible continuous process that will crucially neutralise the Establishment’s use of FUD and their promotion of the false safety of remaining with the status quo, which can be seen, has not been successful especially in the EU! In the initial stages this is what has become known as the Norway Option, involving joining EFTA to retain our membership of the EEA, but it is only the start of the flexible and continuous process we will be on until we regain our complete independence from the EU. FlexCit will help fight classic FUD like the scare that ‘3 million jobs will be lost if we leave the EU’, which is simply NOT the case as we have no intention of leaving the Single Market (SM) made up of 28 countries until, further down the line, something better can be negotiated between the other 22 countries in Europe that are not members of the EU’s SM.

So FleXcit is a multi layer solution where the Norway Option is only an interim step along the way to establishing something much larger which will be achieved via the eight point plan explained in it.

Interestingly there is no strong economic case that can be made for leaving the EU and we will always struggle to argue for withdrawal on those grounds just as conversely there is equally no economic case for staying in the EU. However there are strong democratic and humanitarian reasons for leaving the EU related to the advantages of Self Determination and taking back control of our own destiny from undemocratic and unrepresentative Euro politicians and the unelected bureaucrats and of course, as already mentioned, the benefits of representing our own self interests on the world stage.

It is after leaving the EU that we would be free to concentrate on pushing forward with the introduction of The Harrogate Agenda’s (THA) six demands, which are based on the principles of Direct Democracy, as while leaving the undemocratic EU is a start we would still be faced by a corrupted and undemocratic Westminster. THA aims to give ‘Real Power to the People’.

Having left the EU an integral part of the FleXcit plan is the realisation that the democracy at Westminster must not only be greater and more responsible but more closely responsive to the peoples of Britain, to avoid them ever again being duped, as they were over the Common Market, by the MPs they have elected to serve them. Our political elite are increasingly a law unto themselves and only by the people being recognised as sovereign over our Parliament will things change. As a reminder THA’s six demands are:-

1. Recognition of our sovereignty:
The peoples of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland comprise the ultimate authority of their nations and are the source of all political power. That fact shall be recognised by the Crown and the Governments of our nations, and our Parliaments and Assemblies;
2. Real local democracy:
The foundation of our democracy shall be the counties (or other local units as may be defined), which shall become constitutional bodies exercising under the control of their peoples all powers of legislation, taxation and administration not specifically granted by the people to the national government;
3. Separation of powers:
The executive shall be separated from the legislature. To that effect, prime ministers shall be elected by popular vote; they shall appoint their own ministers, with the approval of parliament, to assist in the exercise of such powers as may be granted to them by the sovereign people of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland; no prime ministers or their ministers shall be members of parliament or any legislative assembly;
4. The people’s consent:
No law, treaty or government decision shall take effect without the consent of the majority of the people, by positive vote if so demanded, and that none shall continue to have effect when that consent is withdrawn by the majority of the people;
5. No taxation or spending without consent:
No tax, charge or levy shall be imposed, nor any public spending authorised, nor any sum borrowed by any national or local government except with the express approval the majority of the people, renewed annually on presentation of a budget which shall first have been approved by their respective legislatures;
6. A constitutional convention:
Parliament, once members of the executive are excluded, must host a constitutional convention to draw up a definitive codified constitution for the peoples of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. It shall recognise their sovereign status and their inherent, inalienable rights and which shall be subject to their approval.

For more on THA see:

http://HarrogateAgenda.org.uk

I still believe it will be important, in this thread, to continue to link to what others are saying about UKIP, as I originally set out to do, and generally comment on such links while adding my own thoughts as necessary and applicable. This of course helps to expose the incompetence at the heart of Nigel’s EUkip and of some of his supporters as demonstrated on this forum.

So by adding to my original aim, of highlighting EUkip’s need to reform, I will now use this thread to seek to explain the importance to UKIP of the FleXcit plan as currently the only workable and honourable ‘eXit and Survival plan’ from the EU which helps neutralise the Establishments use of FUD and will thus help us to win the referendum.

That UKIP members and branches still potentially have some clout, with their county coverage, is not in doubt but they will need to start to think for themselves and therefore must look beyond Nigel Farage and his cabal’s poor leadership and to push and promote the FlexCit plan. Nigel’s current focus on anti EU rhetoric and attempts to win seats next year will NOT on its own help us to win the all important referendum. I don’t hold out much hope that Nigel is capable of changing his ways and the behaviour and quality of output of his 24 MEPs will, in a relatively short time, give us all the evidence we need to see if they are really serious about wanting to leave the EU.

I hope you will join constructively in this new phase of this thread, working to assist in supporting and improving the FleXcit plan, in the spirit of continuous development, between now and the referendum ‘if’ and ‘when’ held. Also I hope you will do all you can to spread the word that the FleXcit plan helps counter the Establishments use of FUD to maintain the status quo by answering the all important question as to ‘HOW’ we can safely leave the EU. This is a plan that does NOT get in the way of party allegiances and so should provide no barrier to any real ’Outer’ supporting it.

Don’t forget that no political party is permitted to lead on either the Yes or the No side in any referendum so those who are really serious about seeking a safe and honourable exit from the EU should be able to gather around this plan.

So FleXcit it has to be if UKIP or anyone else for that matter really wants to win the battle to successfully leave the EU.

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Jasna Badzak – ‘Open letter to my former ‘friend’ Nigel Farage’

Posted by Greg Lance-Watkins on 18/06/2014

Jasna Badzak – ‘Open letter to my former ‘friend’ Nigel Farage’
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Open letter to my former ‘friend’ Nigel Farage Read:

Open letter to my former ‘friend’ Nigel Farage


Open letter to my former ‘friend’ Nigel Farage
Friendship in life and especially political life is a very strange concept. I know it is not alien to me because I, unlike you, still do have many friends, genuine friends across all parties political world.
I was even a friend to you once. On my part, a truly genuine one. I take friendships very seriously, and once I let anyone in my world I am loyal, dedicated and extremely protective of my friends.
From your side I know now it was never the case. However, you always did one thing for me – provide me with hours of laughter.
Two days ago you heard me laughing my head off. Only you have the tenacity to call me after everything that was said and done to me and offer your ‘friendship’, and money for silence, as well as thinly veiled threat not to further hurt me and even to offer UKIP me ‘media expertise’, whatever that might be.
Only you can do it three times. I was shocked that I have overestimated your intelligence thinking even Nigel is not that stupid. Maybe you did not understand it the first time when I told you that I want nothing from you, apart from my health back, which you cannot give me. That is called sarcasm and you can ask Annabelle to look it up in the dictionary for you, safe in the knowledge you really do not read the books (let alone write them). You will, even with your amount of copious drinking, remember us talking about UKIP Immigration policy on the balcony of 32 Smiths’ Square on sunny 24 February 2011 where your ‘Immigration and Islam Spokesman’ simply plagiarised parts of Mein Kampf. Your only response was ‘I never read Hitler’s book’.
Second time I was very clear – no amount of money in the world can buy my silence. Another concept you do not understand because with you everything is about lining your own pockets.
So you tried again. Third time. Why? To close the police investigation into UKIP and you personally? To stop me talking to Electoral Commission? To stop exposing your fraud? To save your precious skin? Or all three?
It was not enough that you have remained silent while Batten was inventing a criminal case that never existed to silence me about very existence of his and UKIP’s ‘Charter of Muslim Understanding’, his and UKIP’s Dismantling Multiculturalism to remove Jews and Muslims from UK, your refusal to testify against Batten for his fraud simply because he knew about your fraud too, your part in conspiracy to pervert the Course of Justice and convict me for the crime which only does not exist but I could have never committed, and just to silence and discredit me for simply telling the truth.
Well my former friend I am not for sale and there is nothing you can do to silence me, stop me, buy me and especially threaten me.

I wonder what response this will get from Farage – will he be man enough to admit he is setting out to pervert the course of justice and bribe a witness, or so it would seem.

Let us not forget Farage is under investigation both ‘yet again’ & ‘not before time’!

Interestingly George Stride, Geoffrey Collier & Nikki Sinclaire (& others) were all members of ‘Farage’s’ UKIP South West Regional committee who were well aware that Julia Longhurst supplied Farage with his  Constituency Office and UKIP Regional Regional Office for, in Farage’s own words: ‘For a peppercorn rental’, as I recal all three and others were at the meeting when Farage and the Longhursts reached agreement some 15 years ago.

It would seem that amongst other sums of money Nigel Farage has obtained is a sum of £205,000 which were ‘allowances’ for his constituency office when it was in fact funded by the generosity of the Longhursts and was in fact also UKIP’s regional office where amongst others Steve Harris worked as UKIP Regional Organiser for many years!

this sum would seem never to have been declared as a political donation, despite the fact that it had been repeatedly pointed out to Fasrage!

This sum should not be confused with the some £211,000 which in one year alone was declared in Farage’s accounts for his office as ‘sundry expenses’ – sundry expenses that exceeded 50% of the cash expenditure/turnover of the office for the year! Whether Farage was able to pass off this amount annually I do not know but let us not forget that, looking through the list of donations listed by The Electoral Commission, Nigel Farage would seem never to have made a significant donation to UKIP – yet he was able on one occasion alone to deposit £250,000 to his trust account in The Isle of Man!

It has been reported by the media that if found guilty under investigation Fararage could face a prison sentence and let us face it this is a considerably larger sum than the £36,000 or so which earned Tom Wise3 a two year prison sentence!

Little wonder it would seem that Nigel Farage will take any risk to avoid the consequences of his reported actions as reported by the media.

I personally do not accept the desperate efforts of some to claim Farage is being smeared by the media because he is some sort of threat to the ‘establishment’ – my personal experiences over many years and the 100s of people who have contacted me or provided information show Nigel Farage to be UKIP and UKIP to be Nigel Farage, so what passes for leadership is and always has been the promotion of the Farage cult where Farage acts as a sociopath in the delusion that whatever he does or says is true and correct and that anyone with differing opinions must be forced out of HIS party.
Sadly I believe there is every reason to believe that UKIP is corrupt from the top down and like fish it rots from the head down!

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Has UKip Morphed Into A Toxic Nationalist & Racist Rabble?

Posted by Greg Lance-Watkins on 10/06/2014

Has UKip Morphed Into A Toxic Nationalist & Racist Rabble?
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Has UKip Morphed Into A rather  Toxic Nationalist & Racist Rabble, as a result of the collapse of the BNP & its fight for seats on the EU gravy train – A rabble that would sell British values down the river in return for a place at the EU troughs?

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Hi,
sadly Dan Hodge’s article below, though classic ‘Click Bait’ and from aits own desperate desire to see the evils of New Labour in control, has more than a shred of truth to it.
I believe those supporting New UKip, which now he brands as ‘Tea Kip’. but for which I coined the name EUkip some years ago – should stand in front of their mirrors and look themselves in the eye and ask if the destruction of Britain is what they really stand for in their desperate scrabble for a place on the gravy train
GRAVY TRAIN 01There is little chance of UKip getting MPs elected next year and even less chance of their having any significant place at Westminster – despite their clamouring for EUKip peers regardless of their abject failure in domestic elections with Zero MPs and very few Councillors elected in their 21 years!
There is however the bitter cry of ‘destroy the Tories’ and ‘we won’t negotiate while Cameron is Tory leader’ in fact anything to destabilise Westminster to gain a toe hold – Far from winning them seats such views lose them votes which ensures that they will fail to gain seats but WILL destabilise the election sufficiently to ensure THE ONLY PARTY able, albe it grudgingly as a result of Nikki Sinclaire’s petition and resultant House of Commons debate, grant these United Kingdoms an In/Out referndum on membership of the odious EU.
Not only is EUkip seemingly willing to risk a continuance of the muddled politics of a Tory Lib.Dim. coalition with a weakened Tory party that can no longer deliver a referendum but in coalition with the treacherous and inept Lib.Dims. alternately the unholy alliance for the sake of power of Labour and Lib.Dem. – worse still they may even be responsible for the destruction of Britain, in their greed, by permitting another period of corrupt and incompetent rule by Labour, as if people are too stupid to realise the damage done by the evil and criminal treachery of Blair & Brown’s self serving and economically illiterate persuit of power and wealth.
Indeed Dan Hodges has some sound points, though to be sure he has a very dubious and distateful motivation in his support for Labour!

How the Tea Kippers hijacked Ukip and turned it into a toxic brand

What does Nigel do next? I suspect it’s a question the leader of the People’s Army has been asking himself a fair bit in the days following Ukip’s surrender to the forces of the establishment at Newark.

Of course he may not have been asking himself any questions. Nigel Farage may have bought into the line that Newark was a triumph. Another of those Ukip by-election defeats that presages victory tomorrow.

In which case it really is all over. We can shut the book on Ukip, and its leader.

But for the sake of argument let’s assume Farage woke up on Saturday morning and said to himself: “Hang on, that wasn’t supposed to have happened. I’m meant to leading a popular revolution here and the government of the day just gave me a good hiding in a parliamentary by-election. Something’s not right.” What then?

The first thing Nigel Farage needs to recognise is the party he’s leading isn’t the party he thinks he’s leading. Two years ago Ukip were easily defined. They were, to borrow a phrase from Nick Clegg, “the party of Out”. Labour and the Lib Dems were Europhiles. The Tory party were Euroagnostic. Ukip, in contrast, were the only genuine Eurosceptics.

Yes, they came across as a bit eccentric. A little obsessed, as single-issue parties tend to do. But they were essentially harmless. They had a charismatic leader. And they were tapping into a suspicion about the grand European project that was shared by a significant section of the electorate on both the Left and Right of the political spectrum.

Slowly but surely, however, Ukip has been the subject of a political takeover. The Kippers have given way to Britain’s equivalent of the Tea Party, the Tea Kippers.

The Tea Kippers don’t view Ukip as a single-issue party. Or a political party at all. They see Ukip first as a movement. Then an uprising. And finally a vehicle for unleashing a political civil war on a Britain they despise and no longer understand.

Like the entryism of Trotskyists into Labour in the late 1970s and early 1980s, the rise of the Tea Kippers was the product of many factors. The compromises forced on the Tory and Liberal Democrat parties by coalition. The failure of Labour to establish itself as an effective opposition. The collapse of the BNP. The lingering sense of disillusionment with the political class in the wake of the expense scandal and the 2008 crash.

And like most successful entryists, the Tea Kippers had no recognised leaders as such. But their ideology was neatly expressed by James Delingpole in last week’s Spectator. “What Ukip needs is a moment equivalent to the one in the mid-1970s when, shortly after becoming Tory party leader, Margaret Thatcher slapped down Hayek’s Constitution of Liberty on the table and declared ‘This is what we believe.’ What Ukip needs is an ‘-ism’.”

Well until recently Ukip had an “-ism”. It was called “Euroscepticism”. But in a desperate attempt to “broaden its appeal” and “tap into the public mood” it’s managed to get itself a new “-ism”. Racism.

Several weeks ago I wrote about how Nigel Farage’s attempt to seize the issue of immigration, and exploit it had backfired. The European elections were his opportunity to plant his party firmly in the political mainstream, I said. Instead, he was toxifying the Ukip brand.

And so it proved. In Newark we saw the first ever mobilisation of the anti-Ukip vote. One Tory MP told me, “What I heard on the doorstep was “I voted Ukip in the Euro elections, but I’m not going to help them elect their first MP”. There is a stigma attached to Ukip that wasn’t there at that start of the year.

The Tea Kippers don’t really care. It merely helps them convince themselves of their radical purity. But Nigel Farage should care.

If Ukip’s leader wants to reclaim his party he needs to do three things. The first is that he has to publically and unequivocally acknowledge that his European election campaign was wrong. Not that he was tired, or he had the odd off day. He needs to admit it was a strategic – never mind moral – mistake to push on immigration so aggressively that it tipped over into naked prejudice.

The second thing he needs to do is stop buying into the hype. Ukip are not a revolutionary movement set to shatter the mold of British politics. They have several MEPs, a handful of councilors and no MPs. They are likely to have no MPs after the next election. Farage has to start to manage expectations, in particular amongst the army of Cyber Tea Kippers who in the excitement of the last month have lost their final tenuous grip on reason.

The third thing he has to do is return Ukip to its roots. Ukip is a success when it sticks to what it knows best. And what it knows best is how to construct a case against Brussels.

It was noticeable in the debates with Nick Clegg that Farage was at his most comfortable and most persuasive when forensically dissecting the failures of the EU. It was when he started ranging into immigration, gay marriage, women’s representation in the workplace etc, that he lost his way.

And that’s because it’s not his way. It’s the Tea Kippers’ way.

Nigel Farage will not take the Westminster ramparts. Newark proved that, as did Ukip’s poorer than expected showing in the local and European elections.

But in three years’ time there will be a referendum on Britain’s membership of the EU. David Cameron will campaign for Britain to stay in. Nick Clegg will campaign for Britain to stay in. Chuka Umunna, or whoever is Labour leader at the time, will campaign for Britain to stay in.

And the “Out” campaign will be looking for a figurehead. Someone who can articulate the anti-European case in a way that resonates with a public increasingly inclined to stick with the Junker they know.

That referendum represents Nigel Farage’s opportunity. But only if he is leader of Ukip, not leader of the Tea Kippers.

Whoever leads the campaign for Britain to leave the EU has to be able to unite the disparate Eurosceptic tribes. Two years ago Nigel Farage could have brought together both Left and Right in common cause. If the referendum was held tomorrow, they wouldn’t touch him with a bargepole. And the anti-Farage vote alone would hand the Europhiles victory on a plate.

That’s the question Nigel Farage has to address. Is Ukip his party? Or is it the Tea Kippers’ party? He hasn’t got long to come up with an answer.

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