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#0782* – Alexandra Swann is seemingly A Liability The Tories are well shot of!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/04/2012

#0782* – Alexandra Swann is seemingly A Liability The Tories are well shot of!

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one can only stand back incredulous at the utter unprofessionalism of UKIP Leadership as they welcome any nere do well with open arms as long as they have failed in another party or have some cheap celebrity or title!
Now we have Farage’s latest bimbette thrust upon us – of talking of thrust what ever happened to his protege Kim Gandy who he happily embraced from the BNP see CLICK HERE
Farage’s ex Tory bimbette Annabelle Fuller who so clearly brought shame on decent UKIP supporters with her foul language, obscene abuse of members on UKIP controlled public forums, record of theft, drunkeness, impropriety, false accusations, breeches of The Data Protection Act and eventually the resignation of UKIP’s then chairman John Witacker no longer willing to lie for Nigel Farage to cover for his doxy!
Ms. Fuller must be considering her position in the light of Farage’s latest failed Tory bimbette who so neatly fits in to represent that other failed old Tory Roger Helmer who facing deselection and clearly piqued at Tory refusal to select his personal choice of successors has defected to UKIP.
One can expect that all to end in tears as clearly Farage will resent being outshone by someone of some competence when he has done so very much to dumb down the party and surround himself with nebishes and nere do wells so that he, like a strutting cockerel shines out as he preens atop the dung heap he has created with his vile little claque of muppets around him!
Just view the foul mouthed sex obsessed obscenities on Twitter of Ms. Swann and the similarity to the vile blogs & comments of Farage’s earlier Tory bimbette the discreditted Annabelle Fuller. Little wonder they both seem to have gravitated to Farage as a showman and the odious and untrustworthy Gawain Towler for as you will note he is wallowing in Ms. Swann’s gutter with his childish comments on Twitter also – they do so demean UKIP!
More to come later when I have time with the details of Ms. Swann’s idiotic and defamatory comments representing the other failed Tory Roger Helmer and supporting the idiocy of the Tory defectee Tom Bursnall in the attack on the unemployed seeking to prevent them voting!

We note UKIP has not publicly admonished them as duty would demand of any ethical organisation – That UKIP sit with their partners the extremists of The EFD Group one can all to readily conjecture that IF they ever gained any authority, unlikely as that clearly is with their serial failure in any domestic elections over the last 20 years, having pronounced the desire to disenfranchise the unemployed might we expect them to persecute the Jews, homosexuals and immigrants also as advocated by their partners?

When I have time later I will provide the links & further details of this odious behaviour from UKIP leadership, staff and their parasites!
Sorry not to have posted earlier but this software is much slower to use as yet and I’m also fairly busy on other issues.
Call back to this blog later for further facts and details ………..

 

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#0781* – JUDAS GOAT Again Highlighted Oop North ;-)

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 18/04/2012

#0781* – JUDAS GOAT Again Highlighted Oop North 😉

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Return of the Judas goat

 Wednesday 18 April 2012

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Hannan opines that:

The latest YouGov poll has my party on 32 per cent, and UKIP on 9 per cent. Together, that’s a Conservative government; separately, it’s a Labour government. It’s true, of course, that not every UKIP voter is a former Tory. Then again, the relevant question is not ‘how did they vote before?’ but ‘if UKIP didn’t exist, how would they vote today?’ It seems not unreasonable to assume that the majority would support the most convincingly Eurosceptic party on offer. (which is? ed.)

So let’s ask the question. Are there any circumstances in which UKIP and the Conservatives might combine? UKIP leaders keep saying that they’d gladly fold themselves into the Conservative Party if it became our policy to leave the EU, but such an eventuality seems unlikely, at least in the short term. It’s true that most Conservative voters would withdraw from the EU tomorrow. So would most party members. And so, I suspect, would most Tory MPs in a secret ballot. That, though, is not party policy. 

Fair enough. David Cameron made his views perfectly clear when he sought the leadership…

This being Daniel “I voted for David Cameron, and would do so again” Hannan.

Do the math.
Peter North
18/04/2012

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You will note that Dr. Richard North, with the inestimable help of his son Peter has not only moved his blog to his own web site keeping most of the details of his old Google Blogger site when Google arbitrarily moved hosting from .com to .co.UK making .blogspot.co.UK vulnerable to the corrupt EU censorship and snooping controls!
 
Sadly I do not have access to a ‘Peter’ and thus am fumbling through the software trying to learn how to use it!

You will find that small items (in size NOT consequence) may well be trailed on my Twitter which can be viewed in the right sidebar or you may have the self confidence to be seen to be following the facts I publish regularly 😉

 
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The EU Is Nothing More Than A Vile Experimental Scam

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/04/2012

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The EU Is Nothingh More Than A Vile Experimental Scam!

An excercise in EUgenics for the enrichment and control by an unelected, undemocratic, self serving clique supported by their claque of wannabes bribed to sell the scam and cover-up the malign dishonesty!

UKIP has clearly learned much from The EU in working for the personal gain of its own small clique and supported by its own claque of wannabes it aids and abets The EU by giving it a sham face of democracy!!

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Hi,The EU ministry of propaganda and re-education with one of the largest work forces in the world in the form of its direct and indirect armies of so called Civil Servants and fully funded and extensively bribed sales force (MEPs) spends £Billions of YOUR money every year to indoctrinate YOUR children and tell YOU just how wonderful they are.

It was Nazi Germany which seems to be the role model with its belief that ‘if you tell a lie often enough it becomes the truth‘!

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A £7m TV channel in 22 languages and the Second World War airbrushed from European history at a £44m museum… eurocrats are spending like never before

By James Slack

PUBLISHED: 23:37, 17 April 2012 | UPDATED: 08:39, 18 April 2012

As the euro crisis grips the continent, threatening the economies of a number of countries in the bloc, self-serving eurocrats have seen fit to splurge almost £50million of taxpayers’ money on the ‘House of European History’ where the Second World War is known as the European Civil War and ‘Year Zero’ for the continent is set at 1946, when the forerunner to the EU was formed. Here James slack reports from the Brussels La-La-Land where money is being wasted on vanity projects like never before…

One thing that symbolises the European elite’s sense of delusion as they cling to the dream of an unviable single currency is the grandiose decision to build a House Of European History.

At a cost of £44million, eurocrats have invested in this project, which is intended to promote ‘an awareness of European identity’.

There is one problem, though. The governments of the EU countries are unable to agree over fundamental aspects of the showcase museum in Brussels.

 
Delusion: As the eurozone nears collapse, the European Parliament in Brussels (pictured) is embarking on a plan to build a House of European HistoryDelusion: As the eurozone nears collapse, the European Parliament in Brussels (pictured) is embarking on a plan to build a House of European History

They have been arguing, for example, over diverging interpretations of events such as World War II — which EU enthusiasts risibly call the ‘European Civil War’.

Farcically, it’s been decided to omit any exhibit on which agreement cannot be reached.

And because of their differing views about World War II, the museum will begin with an EU ‘year zero’ of 1946.

Martin Callanan, the European Conservatives’ group leader in Brussels, has highlighted the madness of such a narcissistic project — particularly when Europe is in a deep economic crisis.

‘The European Parliament should not be in the business of running museums,’ he says.  ‘Even in good times, the money would be a waste, but during these hard times it is scandalous.

Disaster

‘Even if we put the exorbitant cost to one side, differing perspectives of European history mean the museum’s content must be confined to post-World War II.

‘It is hard to see how this will be an objective history museum, rather than a centre for propaganda about the EU.’

And Belgian centre-right MEP Derk Jan Eppink has said: ‘No one wants to be involved in this when people can’t even agree what happened in the last war. It is self-aggrandisement at the expense of taxpayers.’

 
Crisis? What crisis? MEPs seem barely to have noticed the chaos unfolding in GreeceCrisis? What crisis? MEPs seem barely to have noticed the chaos unfolding in Greece

But then this is just another example of the out-of-control juggernaut of mis-spending of British taxpayers’ money that is happening in Brussels.

Eurocrats continue to pour endless amounts of taxpayers’ money into propping up  the collapsing political EU ‘project’.

On a visit to Brussels in recent days, I was shocked to see just how detached from the real world they are, even as disaster unfolds across the Continent.

 
Ignored: There is no mention of the billions of euros that the European Central Bank (pictured) has poured into propping up the single currencyIgnored: There is no mention of the billions of euros that the European Central Bank (pictured) has poured into propping up the single currency

I heard barely a mention in the European Parliament of the Greek sovereign debt crisis.

There were no debates about the 386 billion euros committed — so far — to save Greece, Ireland and Portugal from bankruptcy or of ways to prevent the debt contagion spreading to Spain, as has happened in the past few days.

And there was no discussion of the devastating official figures that show one in ten in the eurozone is unemployed.

 
Detached: What about the catastrophe of Spain's 50% youth unemployment, which is causing social tensions to boil over?Detached: What about the catastrophe of Spain’s 50% youth unemployment, which is causing social tensions to boil over?

In some countries, youth unemployment is close to a catastrophic 50 per cent and experts largely agree the eurozone has slipped back into the throttling grip of recession.

Yesterday, the International Monetary Fund warned for the first time that Europe’s debt crisis could trigger a break-up of the eurozone.

Yet the European Parliament sails along like a partying cruise liner, utterly oblivious to the disasters ahead.

Warning: The International Monetary Fund, whose president is Christine Lagarde (pictured) has said that Europe's debt problem could cause the fragmentation of the eurozoneWarning: The International Monetary Fund, whose president is Christine Lagarde (pictured) has said that Europe’s debt problem could cause the fragmentation of the eurozone

In Brussels, the foyers are packed with art exhibitions.  In the chamber, debates  take place on enlarging the EU to take in still more member states.

While the European dream of a strong single currency evaporates, the only thing that seems to concern MEPs is their own self-importance.

The bars and restaurants surrounding the European Parliament are heaving.  Money and drink flow freely. Little wonder.

Staff working for the EU pay tax at a rate of 21 per cent (though our MEPs pay British tax rates, so as not to benefit from this racket).

In stark contrast, the waiters who serve trays full of Belgian beer, steak and frites pay 40 per cent tax.

As one veteran remarked of life in the Brussels bubble: ‘There is no recession here.’

Indeed. But what there is — in spades — is vanity.

Behind the main European Parliament complex, I was directed to a newly opened 65,000 sq ft visitor centre called the ‘Parliamentarium,’ which cost nearly £18 million (the original estimate for it was  £14 million).

It is a shrine to excess, packed with expensive technology and featuring welcome messages from every MEP.

It celebrates the creation of the EU with barely a nod to the crisis raging all around. France’s recent history is marked by a picture of the Tour de France, and Germany’s by the famous Berlin address by Barack Obama in 2008.

Interestingly, the image used to represent Britain (which, of course, is not a member of the euro) is much less positive.

We get pictures of the bombings in London in July 2005 and of staff packing boxes at the London arm of Lehman Brothers after its collapse.

 
Bias? The new £18m 'Parliamentarium' visitor centre represents France with a picture of the Tour de France (above), but shows victims of the 2008 banking collapse for Britain (below)Bias? The new £18m ‘Parliamentarium’ visitor centre represents France with a picture of the Tour de France (above), but shows victims of the 2008 banking collapse for Britain (below)
 
Bias? The new £18m 'Parliamentarium' visitor centre represents France with a picture of the Tour de France (above), but shows victims of the 2008 banking collapse for Britain (below)

This reflects the jaundiced French view that it’s the Anglo-Saxon capitalist model that is to blame for all the world’s ills.

Sadly, such vanity projects as the House Of European History are visible everywhere — regardless of the crippling debts of individual member states.

Overall, the European Parliament costs £1.69 billion a year to run — an increase of 18 per cent since 2009.

It rents, leases or owns 63 buildings, double the number a decade ago.

Tory MEP Geoffrey Van Orden, who heads the New Direction think-tank, says the main reason for the spiralling cost has been the massive increase in Parliament’s bureaucracy.

Grotesque

Since the enlargement of the EU in 2004 (which increased the number of member states from 15 to 25), staff levels have grown from 3,946 to 6,245 — even though there are only four more MEPs than in 2004.

More than 1,000 European Parliament officials earn more than the MEPs — who themselves are very well paid.

By comparison, just 83 staff members of the British House of Commons are paid more than our MPs.

 
Civil War: Eurocrats appear to be seeking to erase the memory of the Second World WarCivil War: Eurocrats appear to be seeking to erase the memory of the Second World War
 
Charade: The European Parliament regularly relocates to a duplicate building in Strasbourg - at vast expense - for no other reason than to placate the FrenchCharade: The European Parliament regularly relocates to a duplicate building in Strasbourg – at vast expense – for no other reason than to placate the French

Meanwhile, it has emerged that a TV propaganda channel for the European Parliament, which has only 830 viewers a day, costs £7 million a year to run — largely because most of the shows telecast are translated into 22 languages — including Gaelic, which is spoken by just 80,000 people.

During my visit, it emerged that the head of the EU’s environment agency — a British scientist — has been using public funds for staff training in the Caribbean and Mediterranean.

Jacqueline McGlade, a marine biologist, also spent £250,000 to decorate its Copenhagen-based headquarters with plants.

 

Eurocrats are so used to such grotesque expenditure of other people’s money that barely an eyebrow was raised.

Worse, the eurocrats fail to see that they are doing anything wrong.

Every year, £180 million is squandered on dragging the entire eurocracy to France for a handful of sessions in the Strasbourg Parliament building.

 
Squandered: The moves to Strasbourg (pictured) cost £180m a yearSquandered: The moves to Strasbourg (pictured) cost £180m a year

This happens for no other reason than to placate the French — whose economy benefits from the millions spent in hotels, bars and restaurants by the travelling EU circus.

In a laudable move, Tory MEP Ashley Fox fought to stop the European Parliament travelling to Strasbourg for a single month — a saving to Europe’s taxpayers of an estimated £15million.

Privilege

Yet the plan is being challenged in the European Court of Justice — yet another expensive EU institution.

No one is betting against the court ruling in favour of France, and of the waste continuing unchecked.

Of course, the European Parliament is responsible for only a fraction of the EU’s profligacy.

Cut back! David Cameron has insisted that Britain will not contribute any more to the EU's increased budgetCut back! David Cameron has insisted that Britain will not contribute any more to the EU’s increased budget

The EU’s entire budget is an obscene £120 billion — with Britain making a net contribution (money we dole out, but do not get back in grants or our historic rebate) of £6.12 billion.

That is £233 for every household in the UK.

Indeed, as research by the MEP Richard Ashworth shows, only Germany pays more, in net terms, for the privilege of being a member of probably the most spendthrift club on earth.

Yet the Brussels establishment still does not recognise the need for the kind of efficiencies being implemented at home by their member states.

Outrageously, the Commission’s budget committee has just demanded an increase in the EU budget of 5 per cent a year for the next seven years.

David Cameron insists that Britain will not pay. But we  have heard tough talk over budgets from him before, only for him to cave in, as he did last year over the same issue when he agreed to a 2.9 per cent increase in the budget.

If he finds himself wobbling in negotiations, he should think of the unforgivable act of vanity that is the new House Of European History.

If that doesn’t convince him to stand his ground, then nothing will.

The EU is living in a state of near criminal delusion and waste. History will surely record that its bureaucrats fiddled while the euro dream burned.
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#0780* – UKIP Shown to be TOTALLY Unfit For Purpose AGAIN!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 13/04/2012

#0780* – UKIP Shown to be TOTALLY Unfit For Purpose AGAIN!

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UKIP Shown to be TOTALLY Unfit For Purpose AGAIN!

It increasingly proves to be a self serving clique who are ONLY praised by gullible idiots and those seeking preferment and a seat on the gravy train having failed elsewhere.

 
Consider Alexandra Swann who having proved to be a spectacular liability for the Tories is I gather to be highly salaried as an airhead, foul mouthed bimbet under Roger Helmer who is on his own spectacular display of self importance(seems anyone who is anyone in UKIP gets issued with an Annabelle Fuller clone! as if one foul mouthed drunken thief was not enough to display UKIP’s professionalism!)
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now we have the expose of yet another failure to gain the promised preferment – now after presenting UKIP as THE salvation and even making a complete prune of himself interviewing himself so as to praise his benefactor and big up the unprofessional UKIP has had the scales removed from his eyes.
 
Seems from his blog that as new and yet more exalted promises are made, often in return for ‘favours’ those who HAD been promised preferment slip from popularity (USE) by the clique – Some may remember when Nigel Farage categorically promised Kilroy Silk the leadership of UKIP and then reneged when the Kilroy Silk apeal had proved rather less appealing!
 
This would seem to be the latest version all be it from a very gullible slow learner:

Why no decent Tory should vote Ukip

Abhijit Pandya spent a year advising Nigel Farage’s UK Independence Party. What he found convinced him that the anti-EU firebrands are not a serious alternative to the Conservatives.

Nigel Farage: a patriot, but not a serious politician.

Nigel Farage: a patriot, but not a serious politician Photo: PA
 

By Abhijit Pandya

9:26AM BST 12 Apr 2012

 

This weekend Ukip was found to be on 11 per cent in one poll. At this testing time for the Coalition, some members of the Conservative Party may be tempted to turn their support to Ukip. They would be seriously misguided.

I would know. I spent the bulk part of the last year advising Nigel Farage; formerly as Head of Research for Ukip. He is a man whose patriotism I admire, but whose methods I deplore.

His party’s MEPs are obsessed with infantile stunts. These include wondering around Brussels, at the taxpayer’s expense, singing “there is a hole in my bucket”. Entertaining as it is watching Mr Farage doing this, and giving bombastic speeches in the European Parliament, it does nothing to curb the powers of the EU.

To my knowledge there is not a single amendment to a European regulation forced by Ukip, despite being Britain’s second-largest party in the European Parliament. Legislation in that forum is almost certain to be passed, due to the numbers being stacked against Ukip, and the European Parliament having no effective method of veto. So it is extraordinary that Ukip has not, in over a decade, managed to develop a strategy to undermine European law by appropriate subtle and strategic amendments.

The party is more interested in ranting and raving than in the more thoughtful task of fully engaging with its opponents on policy terms. This is why its failure to alter the course of Europe away from a social-democratic federal state has been immense.

Worse still its MEPs have been softened by the alluring lifestyle Brussels offers, as the poor expenses record of Ukip MEPs shows. So much for breath of fresh air that Tories upset at the Coalition would be looking for; they simply won’t find it in Ukip.

Ukip membership is based around a universal opposition to the EU. However, this masks the party’s inconsistency on domestic policy. Tories going to Ukip will find the problems that used to haunt the Conservative Party split on Europe in the Major years flipped on their head. Ukip may not be split on Europe, but as a consequence of being a one-issue Party, they are just about split on everything else. Ukip will go Left, Right or centre to grab the next available vote.

For example, instead of trying to appeal to mainstream voters, they are obsessed with grabbing votes from the English Democrats. Hence their unprincipled support for breaking up the Union and having an English parliament. Thus we have a self-proclaimed “UK” Independence Party that doesn’t want a “UK”. This is the level of absurdity Ukip operates under. A sharp contrast to Lady Thatcher’s handbrake on Scottish devolution in her first term.

I am wholly opposed to the EU in its present form, but I am for free trade and movement of peoples (where there is no welfare dependency). Ukip treats these issues in simplistic black-and-white terms, not acknowledging their complexity. For example, Ukip is against immigration in absolute terms, but this is economically unrealistic. By sticking to screaming demagoguery for an immigration ban of a random arbitrary period, without assessing market needs, Ukip loses economic credibility for a few votes.

This is the least of its problems. Christine Hamilton, known for her sexual-innuendo-filled television shows, and her husband Neil, the former “cash for questions” Tory MP, have become the new stars of Ukip. They have been given places on Ukip’s National Executive Committee that runs the party.

For Tories yearning for the old years of glory, a move to Ukip would be a move back to the feeling of looking at the remnants of the Tory Party after its 1997 catastrophe. This is when Hamilton, Aitken and others pulled the great Tory beast down. Worse still it would benefit Labour, and another Labour victory is the last thing this country needs.

It would be far better to support a Prime Minister who managed one of the biggest swings in electoral history, and is harshly been judged for not achieving the improbable all-out victory in 2010.

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Had you any doubt just how unprofessional UKIP can be this video may well clarify for you CLICK HERE (sorry I haven’t worked out how to ’embed’ videos in text yet!)
 
AND to qote The Liverpool Daily Post of Paul Nuttall:
UKIP wishes to move towards the centre and away from anything contentious and that UKIP has got its feet firmly under the electoral table with a plush carriage on the European gravy train‘.

I guess it would all be rather funny if it wasn’t so deadly serious!

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#0779* – UKIP’s Partners in Racism & Hatred!

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 UKIP’s Partners in Racism & Hatred show it is hard, if not impossible, to pretend that UKIP is NOT involved in extremist politics in the light not just of their associates in The EU but also the apparent incitement to racial hatred based upon superstition!
 
I do concede parts of the following report are untranslated and in Greek and thus I have based my opinion on that which I can read!

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Wikileaks: Ο Καρατζαφέρης για να το παίξει “καλό” και υπάκουο παιδί των Αμερικάνων “΄έγλυφε” τους Εβραίους και ζητούσε “τυχαία” συνάντηση με τον “εχθρό” Ερντογάν για να μην ξυπνήσουν τα “πρόβατα” που τον ακολουθούν!!!

Πρώτη καταχώρηση: Παρασκευή, 28 Οκτωβρίου 2011, 21:09

 

Φρικτά πράγματα αποκαλύπτονται από τη Wikileaks όσον αφορά τον γνωστό κολοτούμπα!! Σε συνάντηση της Τζαβέλα με αμερικάνο αξιωματούχο στις 23 Σεπτεμβρίου 2009 ο Καρατζαφέρης ξεβρακώθηκε κανονικά μπροστά τους: Παρακαλούσε, μέσω της Τζαβέλα, για συνάντηση μαζί τους υποσχόμενος πως μετά τις εκλογές, αφού θα έχει υποκλέψει την ψήφο των ηλιθίων, θα έβγαζε ανακοίνωση υπέρ της αποζημίωσης των εβραίων για το εβραϊκό νεκροταφείο της Θεσσαλονίκης σαν κίνηση καλής θέλησης προς την εβραική κοινότητα… έλεγε στους αμερικάνους ότι έχει δώσει εντολή να πέσουν οι τόνοι από τα στελέχη του… θύμιζε ότι είχε συναντηθεί με λαθρομετανάστες… και τέλος επιζητούσε μια συνάντηση με τον Ερντογάν που όμως θα φαίνονταν “τυχαία”

για να μην πονηρευτούν οι ηλίθιοι που τον στηρίζουν…
Διαβάστε τα χάλια του και μόνοι σας:

C O N F I D E N T I A L ATHENS 001515 SIPDIS
DECL: 2019/09/28
SUBJECT: Greece’s Surging Far-Right LAOS Party Inches Towards Center
SUMMARY: In the aftermath of their unprecedented success in European Parliament elections in June, the leaders of Greece’s surging, far-right Popular Orthodox Rally (LAOS) expect to win 6 to 7 percent of the vote and up to 20 parliamentary seats in October 4 domestic elections and are preparing to be a “more responsible party” on human rights and foreign affairs issues. Niki Tzavella, LAOS’ senior Member of European Parliament (MEP) and a party strategist, described to Poloff on September 23 how party chief Georgios Karatzaferis understood that LAOS’ rising political fortunes meant that the party had to move away from its previously ultra-nationalistic and anti-Semitic rhetoric. According to Tzavella, Karatzaferis wanted to make positive gestures to Greece’s Jewish community, was seeking increased contact with American officials, had tempered his tough anti-immigration stance by meeting with migrants and committing to anti-racism declarations, and wished to burnish his foreign relations credentials by orchestrating an “accidental” but substantive meeting with Turkish PM Erdogan on the margins of a future EU meeting. Tzavella said that she and Karatzaferis, both ex-New Democracy (ND) parliamentarians, shared the same ultimate goal of joining LAOS and the ND in a broad center-right coalition–and would continue pressuring ND parliamentarians to defect to their party. END SUMMARY.
2. (U) See ref A for a broader overview of October 4 parliamentary elections. —————————————- LAOS Well-Placed for a Strong Electoral Showing —————————————-
3. (C) In June European Parliament elections, LAOS rode a wave of discontent among center-right voters over ND’s handling of the December 2008 riots in Athens, illegal immigration, and the economic crisis to win an unprecedented 7.15 percent of the vote, sending two LAOS MEPs–including Niki Tzavella–to Brussels (see ref D). Since then, Karatzaferis has pursued a two-pronged strategy of poaching disgruntled ND politicians and publicly declaring his desire for a LAOS-ND grand coalition. LAOS scored a political coup on September 9 by convincing the ex-chief of the Greek National Intelligence Service (EYP), Ioannis Korandis, to lead the LAOS state parliamentary slate. Korandis brings experience managing a government agency, a previous stint as Greek ambassador to Turkey, and also a reputation as a law-and-order leader. With Prime Minister Kostas Karamanlis cutting longtime party members from his own slates, ND is in disarray and morale has suffered–all good news for Karatzaferis, who has welcomed three defecting MPs to his party list with open arms. Mid-September polls estimate that LAOS will win 6 to 7 percent of the electorate, nearly double its take of 3.8 percent during the last domestic elections in 2007. With LAOS still reaping the benefits of its clear stance against immigration and enjoying a strong nationalist base in northern Greece, Tzavella noted, she and Karatzaferis secretly hoped to win 8 percent of the vote and up to 20 parliamentary seats. —————————————-
Turning a New Leaf on Anti-Semitism, National Issues? —————————————-
4. (C) Tzavela stressed that LAOS leaders recognized that the party’s newfound political strength required it to be “more responsible,” especially given LAOS’ reputation as anti-Semitic and xenophobic. Tzavela took pains to highlight several ongoing and future initiatives to moderate the party’s positions:
1) Immediately after LAOS’ strong Euro-elections showing, Karatzaferis instructed party delegates to “tone down” irresponsible anti-Semitism and racist remarks;
2) Karatzaferis met with illegal migrants in April to highlight that his proposal for strict immigration quotas was not racist;
3) LAOS MEPs had signed a public declaration against racism, discrimination, homophobia, anti-Semitism, and xenophobia in Brussels;
4) Tzavela had reached out to the leader of the Thessaloniki Jewish community, David Saltiel, to discuss how LAOS can have better relations;
5) Konstantinos Plevris, who had authored the anti-Semitic “The Jews–The Whole Truth” and who had called Jews “subhuman” and “mortal enemies,” had left LAOS; and
6) soon after the October 4 elections, Karatzaferis would publish a signed editorial in a “major newspaper” supporting the resolution of property restitution negotiations over the Thessaloniki Jewish cemetery.
These actions, Tzavela said, demonstrate that LAOS can be a responsible partner in a center-right coalition–and should allay U.S. concerns about LAOS’ anti-Semitism. (NOTE: Post has refrained from inviting LAOS leaders to events such as the July 4 reception due to Karatzaferis’ previous anti-Semitic statements and his having denied that the Holocaust occurred. See the 2009 State Department Human Rights Report for additional details.)
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The Future: A LAOS-ND Center-Right Coalition?
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5. (C) Despite LAOS’ recent political success hewing to a far-right, anti-immigration, law-and-order platform, top party leaders appear to be seeking a way to reunite with ND, either in a center-right coalition or possibly by melding LAOS and ND into one entity. In a July 17 meeting, Tzavela said Karatzaferis, ever since being expelled from ND in 2000, hoped to return to his old party–and this desire was part of the reason he had embraced a strategy of calling for a ND-LAOS coalition. During the September 23 meeting, Tzavela noted that she, too, hoped that LAOS could rejoin ND to form a stable coalition focused on private enterprise, market-based economic reforms, and revitalizing the 1970s “glory days” of the Greek center-right. (NOTE: Tzavela herself is a former ND parliamentarian.) However, given the distaste of most ND interlocutors towards the notion of cooperating with LAOS (see refs B and C), Tzavela recognized that ND would have to suffer a wrenching defeat or otherwise undergo a major change of heart before a coalition might be realistic.
6. (C) Tzavela assessed that ND would very likely lose the October 4 elections to PASOK and that Karamanlis would step down as party chief. Tzavela thought his most likely successors were Minister of Foreign Affairs Dora Bakoyianni, Minister of Culture Antonis Samaras, or Minister of Health and Social Solidarity Dimitris Avramopoulos. Samaras and Avramapoulos would probably be more amenable to LAOS-ND cooperation, Tzavela noted, so if either took over ND, LAOS would push hard for a coalition; such a coalition would likely push the liberal wing of ND into PASOK’s arms. Should the vehemently anti-LAOS Bakoyiannis take the helm (or should Karmanlis stay on), however, Karatzaferis would likely continue a strategy of building strength in hopes of forming a coalition later down the line.
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COMMENT: Moderation Both a Risk and an Opportunity
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7. (C) If LAOS performs strongly in the October 4 elections, gaining 7 or more percent of the vote, Karatzaferis and Tzavela will face two strategic questions: Should LAOS moderate and become a “responsible party,” risking the loyalty of its vociferous far-right, ultra-nationalist base? And, does LAOS stand a chance of pursuing a center-right coalition, even while ND officials at all levels of the party vehemently deny they will ever cooperate? During June European Parliament elections, LAOS profited at ND’s expense due to the timely elevation of law-and-order issues and migration to the forefront of the Greek political agenda. If PASOK comes to power in October, however, ND has a chance to find new leadership, reorganize itself in opposition, and refocus on defending its ideological right flank. With ND potentially returning to its roots on the political right, and LAOS inching towards the center, LAOS faces both a big risk and a big opportunity: This political convergence may deprive LAOS of its political raison d’etre but also might bring Karatzaferis and Tzavela’s vision of a centre-right coalition or merger one step closer to fruition. One thing is certain: ND officials may view LAOS with distaste (see ref B), but they can no longer afford to ignore Karatzaferis at the polls or when planning political strategy–LAOS has become an important force to be reckoned with on Greece’s political right. END COMMENT.
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Biographical Information: Niki Tzavela
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8. (C) Tzavela openly admitted that she “did not fit the LAOS mold” and reserved the right to chart a political future independent from that of Karatzaferis. Tzavela complained that “no one in the EU Parliament did any work” and said that she would work hard to improve U.S.-EU legislative ties on energy security issues. She hoped to invite the Russian energy minister to Brussels. Other details: — Former ND parliamentarian, speaks fluent English — Worked in a Israeli Jewish kibbutz as a teenager; studied at Howard University — LAOS’ senior MEP in Brussels and Vice Chairwoman of the Europe of Freedom and Democracy super-party; Vice Chairwoman of the U.S. Delegation in the European Parliament and member of the Committee on Industry, Research, and Energy — Was appointed Vice President of the Athens 2004 Olympic Games Committee by PASOK Prime Minister Costas Simitis — Previous Vice President of the Kokkalis Foundation, which runs a program on Southeast and East-Central Europe policy at the Harvard Kennedy School — Previous Executive Director for International Development for the Antenna TV Group Speckhard

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I guess all I can add is that I believe YOU should consider your own ethics and morality if you vote to support UKIP.

The article quoted was drawn to my attention by a concerned MEMBER of UKIP in their effort to clean-up UKIP with a view to making the party fit for purpose.

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#0778* – Ukip London mayoral candidate admits: I can’t deliver my promises

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Ukip London mayoral candidate admits: I can’t deliver my promises

Wild promises by Ukip to slash tax on beer and allow smoking in pubs cannot be delivered, the party’s London mayoral candidate Lawrence Webb has told Metro.

 
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Mr Webb launches his manifesto today but admits pledges to reduce VAT on beer and cider to five per cent and allow landlords to offer smoking rooms are not achievable.

Other promises include turning Kent’s Manston Airport into an ‘international hub’ and charging foreigners a 25p tax to help repair the clock tower housing Big Ben.

But when Metro asked if Ukip could keep these promises, he said: ‘No, not directly – but other candidates have made promises they can’t do.’

A Treasury spokesman said: ‘The mayor of London doesn’t have the power to change VAT which is set by the chancellor.’

Manston Airport would need a high-speed rail link

A recent ComRes poll for the Evening Standard suggested 46 per cent of Londoners would back Conservative incumbent Boris Johnson in the first round of voting.

His Labour challenger Ken Livingstone received 41 per cent of votes, while six per cent were for Liberal Democrat candidate Brian Paddick and four per cent for the Green party’s Jenny Jones.

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So Tory on 46% + Labour on 41% = 87% of the balance The LibDims on 6% leaving a mere 7% for all the rest where the idiotic Green Party have taken 4% thus all the rest will be squabbling over 3% as predicted by the Polls in the week when UKIP is making much of another poll predicting UKIP will gain 11% across the Country!

11% is clearly fanciful as the party has never approached anything like that in domestic elections as reflected by the FACT that they have less than 20 elected Councillors unless one counts the irrelevant  dog poo and memorial bench brigade of The Parish Councils of Britain whicjh have little or no say on anything much and are little more than a sop to busy bodies as their position is accepted by the honourable as being non political!. .

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#0777* – UKIP: Nigel Farage addresses anti-semitic, fascist party meeting

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/04/2012

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UKIP: Nigel Farage addresses anti-semitic, fascist party meeting in Greece!

The MANY Examples of apparent Extremism, Racism, Anti Judaism, Anti Homosexual, Advocacy of Violence, Cyber Bullying and the like amongst UKIP Leadership & its associates should make people consider whether they are fit to represent ANYONE!

Let us not forget the apparent incitement to racial hatred based upon religious superstitions presented by officials of UKIP!

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UKIP: Nigel Farage addresses anti-semitic, fascist party meeting

LAOS is a Greek political party widely vilified for its extreme anti-semitic and homophobic views.

In 2004, when the party joined UKIP’s Independence & Democracy group, the Simon Wiesenthal Centre began expressing an interest. This was renewed in 2009, when the renowned Nazi-hunters asked for information on UKIP’s current political vehicle, the EFD group. LAOS fascists also sit in this group.

The following is an extract from a paper presented to the Wiesenthal Centre in 2010.

Popular Orthodox Rally (LAOS)

Controversial Greek politician and leader of LAOS, Georgios Karatzaferis, was a member and vice-president of the Ind Dem group, forerunner of the EFD, in the European Parliament (2004-2007). He appears to retain not only party, but also personal links to his former colleagues. In May 2010, a delegation of EFD members and staff visited Athens, where they met with Karatzaferis and others. (24)

In 2000, Karatzaferis claimed that the Protocols of Zion were being put into effect and that:

“the Pope and the Jews are conspiring against Greece“. (25)

Also in 2000, “The New World Order means that we are a puppet at the hands of the Jews… The Global government has taken place in Europe. The common currency too! They are dancing it to their tune. Do you know what kind of money the Jews are profiteering with these ups and downs? We are being led to the fulfillment of targets set 200 years ago.” (ibid)

In 2001, the rhetoric became more menacing:
The Jews have no right to provoke, because they have filled the world with crimes“. “The Jews have no legitimacy to speak in Greece and provoke the political world. Their impudence is crass“. He also challenged the Israeli ambassador to come and debate “the Holocaust, the Auschwitz and Dachau myth”. Karatzaferis finished by asking “Mister Jew ambassador” to “be a bit careful” and warning “the Jews” that if Greek Jews continue their “insolent behaviour” (as in their response to Karatzaferis’s earlier claims that “the Jews” were responsible for 9/11) they were “not going to have a pleasant time.” (26) The US State Department, in its Annual Report on Religious Freedoms in 2005, singled out LAOS, and its leader (and then MEP) Giorgos Karatzaferis, for promoting “radical nationalism, anti-Semitism, racism, and xenophobia”.

LAOS has two representatives in the EFD group, Niki Tzaveli (vice-chair of the group), and Nikolaos Salavrakos, a former legal adviser to LAOS. In fact, for the purposes of representation in the European Parliament, the party is styled Laikos Orthodoxos Synagermos – G. Karatzaferis.

Adonis Georgiadis, a LAOS Member of the Greek Parliament, has attracted criticism for his literary activities. A writer and publisher, he has been accused of promoting a book, Jews: the whole truth, by Konstantinos Plevris, himself a former LAOS member, which describes Jews as “subhuman” (p.582). Plevris is critical of the Nazi regime for “not ridding Europe of Jewish Zionism”, and states that Jews should be “rounded-up and executed within 24 hours” (p.742). Plevris, who describes himself in his book as a “Nazi” (p.600) also claims that former UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan is a “descendant of cannibals”.

24. http://www.efdgroup.eu/news/92-the-eurozone-crisis-efd-study-trip-to-greece-.html

26. http://www.iospress.gr/mikro2001/mikro20010929.htm

As if it were not disgusting enough that UKIP sits in a political group with this filth, just a few weeks ago we had the spectacle of Nigel Farage addressing young members of this fascist party in Greece. Farage is clearly seen in front of the fascist logo of LAOS. This is absolute proof of Farage’s realignment of UKIP in Europe as an extreme-right party.

As was mentioned in a previous post – our grandfathers fought a war against fascist scum like them – and Farage would appear to now be one of “them”. Here is the evidence:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WIQQ3vKzrI
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THIS POST HAS BEEN UPDATED based on additional information:

It seems that the meeting as filmed was in fact presented in The EU Parliament, or so I am informed by a member of UKIP! Who supplies me with information out of revulsion or despair at the overt racism of some in UKIP and its associates, particularly based on their anti Islamic stance.

The meeting seems NOT to have been a speci9fic LAOS meeting but in view of the extremism of the panel the preponderance of attendees were Greek LAOS extremist supporters, as others did not wish to be associated with the extremist stance of the panel.

My thanks to my informat who has tried to ensure the continued accuracy of this blog – even on such small details!
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#0776* – UKIP: The hypocrisy of Gerard Batten MEP

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 11/04/2012

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I noted the following post on Junius earlier and have obtained permission to reproduce it in full as I believe it is an important comment that should be publicly aired:

UKIP: The hypocrisy of Gerard Batten MEP

Gerard Batten and Nigel Farage: Two disgusting hypocrites who have done rather well since joining the EU Gravy Train. Batten claims to hate Nigel for his hypocrisy but is he any different?


A number of folk have commented on the fact that an article linking Gerard Batten to the convicted fraudster and right-wing extremist Gregory Lauder-Frost has been removed from this blog. We can explain….

Batten is subject to certain legal proceedings, with decision expected any day now. It is rumoured that he has had an injunction put in place to prevent discussion about the case in the British press. As such Google appears to have intervened and removed the post from British viewers. The article remains in place for people accessing this blog from outside the UK.

This is ironic, as Batten is a defender of Julian Assange, the Wikileaks founder who is facing extradition to the USA. Apparently transparency and public access to information are things to be defended – unless that information concerns Batten!

If details of the allegations against him were to appear on Wikileaks, would Batten be so happy to defend Assange?

We are happy to report that the CPS has rejected several complaints made by Batten against Greg Lance-Watkins. These complaints were originally made to the police in a desperate attempt to silence GLW and his blog. Yet another example of Batten’s disgusting hypocrisy. And since was telling the truth a crime, Mr Batten? And why have you never contacted GLW to complain about ANY of his posts if they are untrue?

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I gatherthere was an injunction of some sort placed upon the information IN The Courtrelative to the allegations of racism etc. made against Gerard Batten – whichclearly no one who was not actually in the Court would have known about.
The Courtitself willingly provided certain details when phoned by members of the publicwhich can be shown.
Withregard to information published by Junius and myself regarding Gerard Batten’sbehaviour firstly there was no reason to believe that any kind of injunction wasbeing used to suppress the facts as shown by the fact that theindustrial/employment tribunals when John Whittacker was found guilty and alsowhen the verdict of guilty handed down against UKIP, Nigel Farage and GodfreyBloom took place – no such suppression of the truth was imposed.
Similarlywhen Lisa Duffy lied to the Court for UKIP as when Paul Nuttall lied on Anthony Butcher’sUKIP controlled blog and also when he was officially censured by The DataProtection Commissioner.
There werealso no restrictions on reporting when UKIP effectively lost their case againstme when Mark Croucher acted against me when in UKIP employ supported by Paul Nuttall and Clive Page in Courtwho all three held positions working for UKIP leadership.
You willalso note that although The Court issued an order for payment in my favourneither UKIP nor Mark Croucher had the integrity to honour the Courts and oweme a considerable sum of money morally running to over £12,500 which they haveto date defaulted on.
Withregard to whether the complaint that led to the strange removal of the factsfrom Junius was made by Gerard Batten or Gregory Lauder-Frost or someone acting on their behalfseems immaterial as clearly both parties have endeavoured to suppress the truthabout them and reasonable comment in the past and have a track record of whatmany consider to be extremism and I believe can easily be seen as incitement toracial hatred be that based on ethnicity or superstition.
Fortunatelyit will be noted that neither Junius nor I were aware of any suppression of thetruth to protect Gerard Batten and neither of us acted willfully against aCourt diktat as neither of us reported on the supposedly confidential facts putforward in the Court but merely reported the facts in the public domain.
Interestinglyyou will note that if you read Junius’ blog elsewhere in The EU it is clearlyvisible uncensored!
Obviouslyhad Gerard Batten had any complaint legitimate or perceived he has had everyopportunity to make contact with me for either a right of reply on my blog orif he could show that one word of what I published was false he couldreasonably have asked for it to be corrected.
It doesrather look as if Gerard Batten or his associates are seemingly trumping upissues in a desperate attempt to suppress the truth and maliciously andvindictively suppress reasonable reportage of their odious activity.
PoliceState that we seem increasingly to be governed by presumably it is stillacceptable under free speech to tell the truth and to state and discussopinions!
GerardBatten has loudly proclaimed his support for the right of free speech of JulianAssange of Wikileaks – just as associates of his have been willing to givesupport to Anders Brevik and apart from mere words’ of no consequence or valueno one in UKIP leadership took action against those supporting Anders Brevik -a sad reflection UKIP, Gerard Batten and their racist, anti homosexual,Holocaust denying, anti Jewish associates.
Many willremember the vile tract published by Anthony Bennett of UKIP whilst working forJeffrey Titford (leader of UKIP), the vile attack on Muslims of the awardwinning Zionist Malcolm Pearson (leader of UKIP), The exploitation and peopletrafficking of Poles by Roger Knapman & family (leader of UKIP) and ofcourse the odious tract put in the public domain by Gerard Batten regarding hisantipathy to Islam believed to be influenced by his personal superstitions andmaybe also the fact that his Filipino wife is most probably a Catholic – itwill be known by the informed that there is great animus between the Catholicsand The Muslims in the Philippines!
Presumablythe verdict of the Court on Gerard Batten’s alleged racism etc. will be madeknown shortly, just as were the details that the case was taking place whichwere readily available direct from the Court by phone!
If GerardBatten actually believes in what many see as his extremist behaviour andassociates and his apparently overt willingness to seemingly spread racialhatred based upon his choice of superstitions and beliefs one wonders why hewishes to suppress the discussion of his views!
To avoidANY misunderstandings – I was not only unaware but clearly there was no reasonto be aware that Gerard Batten had or had sought any type of suppression orderto suppress reporting of the facts.
Furtherplease note I did NOT report any comments or facts that I had any reason tobelieve were not in the public domain.
It is alsomy opinion that this entire issue is a trumpped up and thus dishonest situationas Gerard Batten took absolutely no steps to contact me or to contact Juniusthrough me to seek correction or inform us he had some sort of suppressionorder to prevent reporting of the facts.
May Iremind readers that Gerard Batten is a public servant and it would seem he isacting in abuse of his position in seemingly inciting racial hatred based u8ponhis chosen superstitions.
The daythat it is unlawfull to discuss the actual behaviour of public servants will bea sad day for these United Kingdoms and to note YET AGAIN UKIP seeking to suppress the truth and act againstfreedom of speech upholding EU diktats and Political Correctness is possiblythe ultimate hypocracy.
Withregard to the idiotic comments of UKIP supporters repeatedly claiming that I ammad and that no one reads Junius’ or my blog and that the facts we present areuntrue – how come they spend so much time reading our blogs and attacking us?
The numberof readers is to me utterly irrelevant, on my blogs – I post them as an archiverecord of facts and my opinions on those facts.
It is thecaliber of the readers which is of consequence!
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#0775B* – A Continuation On UKIP Corruption

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Well, if anyone does take Junius to court for libel, they’ll need about £80 – 100,000 for a straightforward case.

As for “….UKIP would be able to cite many examples of Junius untruths…”, any idea why they haven’t done that already? Just curious.

I’ve no idea why they haven’t been sued Mr Morson,

This disingenuous specimen is all too happy to misrepresent the posts of both Junius and I and claim they contain untruths deliberate lies and libel yet in the blog I wrote CLICK HERE 
to make the reason abundantly clear so claimed anonymity is OBVIOUSLY not a factor it is the FACT that UKIP’s cowardly posters have totally failed to show a single example of dishonesty, libel or lie that is on either my blogs or on those of Junius – yet UKIP supporters continue to befoul the reputation of UKIP with their cyber bullying, cowardice and lies.

I am speculating the anonymity of the website could be a factor.

In the light of the irrefutable FACT that the likely reason was that ‘veritas’ shows there is NO LIBEL in any posting of mine or Junius which UKIP or its sordid supporters can or have ever shown. To TRY to misrepresent this with ‘speculation’ in this instance is all too typical of the dishonesty of a certain group of UKIP supporters.

I wonder if your hostility to anonymous posters extends to the Junius owner(s)?

Yet again it seems the person passing themselves off with a false identity refuses to differentiate between their own lies, cyber stalking, dishonesty and false accusations which they post sheltering as cowards behind anonymity. Refusing to acknowledge that the Junius blog is reporting backed by fact and has never been shown to be dishonest, consequentially inaccurate, libellous or corrupt.

It is not the factor of anonymity which is beneath contempt it is the cowardly and dishonest use of it made by the likes of Arthur Fonzarelli, Independent UKIP, Skeptyk, Gothmog, Stathan and their ilk to lie, cheat, defame and abuse the fundamental tennets of free speech for which some of our ancestors and even people  today have laid down their lives.

However something Mr Lance-Watkins has highlighted may explain why action can now be taken.

Yet again a dishonest misrepresentation of the FACTS which I posted and the conc lusions which I presented.

Again, I’m speculating but Mr Lance-Watkins has pointed out that all of his blogs have had their URLs changed from a .com to a .co.uk address. The same applies to the Junius one too.

In fact – this is yet another dishonest misrepresentation as I made it abundantly clear that Google’s Blogger system on blogspot.com has ALL been switched to national hosting as with .co.UK including such respected blogs as that of Dr. Richard North see CLICK HERE

FOR THOSE WISHING TO FOLLOW THE EXCELLENT FACTUAL BLOG & OPINIONS OF Dr. Richard North PLEASE NOTE HIS NEW URL:

http://www.eureferendum.com

Indeed, Mr Lance-Watkins seems to lament the change from being ‘US hosted’, presumably so he could hide behind their laws.

Could the anonymised poster be such a fool as to believe this is what I said or claimed – I think not! I believe that the poster is yet again presenting a dishonest self serving misrepresentation.

Maybe now that UK blogs are now UK based, it may be somewhat easier to address possible libels as previously I would imagine that those who may have been libelled may have had to go through US courts to remove blogposts but now that those blogs are UK hosted, they could actually be under UK laws which I think could change things.

UK based postings are subject to the corrupt and undemocratic control of  EU diktat and the new standards of Politically Correct and arbitrary denial of free speech even when true and accurate – abuse made under EU diktat without explanation or justification – we note this in the case of the arbitrary removal of factual postings on The Junius blog, seemingly on the whim of an individual to suppress facts and freedom of speech in an obscene and dishonest manner.

I nor any reasonable person would have absolutely no objection to the lies, defamation, dishonest smears and libels of the likes of Arthur Fonzarelli, Skeptyk, Mick McGough, Skeptyk, Douglas Denny, Annabelle Fuller and many other members of the self serving and corrupt claque currently supporting UKIP’s inept and unprofessional leadership clique being removed as clearly they libel, dishonestly and maliciously defame and constantly harrass those seeking to publish the facts and legitimate ethical opinion regarding UKIP.

per exempio: one only need read the postings of the odious Kevin Mahoney who seemingly passes himself off as Stathan where almost all of his postings are a malicious series of attacks founded on the most febrile of evidence yet made in sordid and dishonest harrassment of Niall Warry – yet as his Forum is clearly controlled by UKIP Anthony Butcher still hosts this odious level of abuse and cyber stalking for UKIP.

As of course is the case with Mick McGough of UKIP’s NEC who has been proven and shown to be a liar and a cheat and has criminally abused the internet to send some 20,000 offensive eMails to my spam filter systems – Yet Anthony Butcher still hosts his malicious postings, lies and defamatory harrassment and he provides a platform for them.

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#0775* – Anthony Butcher’s Forum Still Hosting Libel?

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A collection of dishonest low lifes acting for UKIP too ashamed of their own behaviour to put their names to their libelous claims and cowardly cyber abuse on behalf of UKIP!

Would anyone of any ethical values want UKIP near ANY lever of power in the light of the dishonesty, corruption and self serving behaviour of the liars, cheats and low lifes they are associated with even NEC members like the sordid Mick McGough and his criminal behaviour and lies and he is far from alone – consider Gerard Batten, Derek Clark, Peter Reeve, Paul Nuttal and other liars and racists and the sick little claque of anonymous cowards and perverts!

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    Funnily, the Junius link to you refer to has been removed by Google under legal advice

    CORRECTION the post has been dishonestly removed to comply with EU internet rules seemingly designed to suppress the truth and it would seem based upon a complaint based not on law but on abuse.

    No error or libel has been identified in EITHER of the postings arbitrarily removed and every statement in the postings is verifiable as FACT.

    . Is it possible that Mr Batten has made Google aware of libels in that post?

    If this is the case as this odious UKIP stooge seems to think it is clearly an abuse of his elected office – just as his recent abuse of his position to waste Police time to seemingly try to suppress facts and the truth about his apparent incitement to racial hatred based upon his personal superstitions and beliefs acting in his own interests counter the superstitions of his own constituents facts he does not wish to be brought to the attention of his electorate.

    However5 just as the fanciful and childish script of the low grade soap opera Fonzie bases his identity on I believe this may well be no more than fiction!

    There is at least a possibility that the unpleasant criminal extremist Gregory Lauder-Frost has misrepresented the clearly verifiable truth in the postings to suppress comment about his odious extremism and criminal record which includes a prison sentence for fraud running to six figures for monies stolen from his employers.


    I believe Mr Lance-Watkins has cut and pasted the offending post on his site

    Since I wrote one of the posts removed perhaps this idiot Fonzie would care to show where the statements of verifiable fact in any way offended.

    – as it’s also run by Google, one might think that will be removed soon.

    Unlikely as it contains no libel but let us face it with the exposure of Google’s blogspot to being .co.UK subject to the corrupt rules of The EU any suppression of truth is likely!

    And not before time too, these people should not be allowed to publish libels freely

    Perhaps having made this libelous accusation the dishonest coward Arthur Fonzerelli might have the integrity to act ethically and put his or her actual identity to their libel as they have failed with absolute 100% track record of failure to EVER identify any libel EVER published by me and presumably they can not identify a libel by Junius or they would have published the details and asked Junius for its correction and apology!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Fonzarelli View Post
    Funnily, the Junius link to you refer to has been removed by Google under legal advice. Is it possible that Mr Batten has made Google aware of libels in that post?

    The link is still live, what are you talking about?

    Which libels do you refer to? The truth is no libel.

    Mjolnir is correct that it is impossible to libel by telling the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post

    The link is still live, what are you talking about?

    Which libels do you refer to? The truth is no libel.

    If you visit th article you linked to, you will see that the offending text has been removed and replaced by…

    In response to a legal request submitted to Google, we have removed this post. If you wish, you can read more about the request at ChillingEffects.org.

    Why do think that has happened Mjolnir?

    As I have shown above the posting was accurate, honest and verifiable on the internet and in public record and has seemingly been unreasonably removed most likely on a dishonest complaint to suppress facts and the truth and opinion that racism and extremism on the part of those written about should be kept from the public! Supported it seems by anonymous low lifes from UKIP!

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    GLW likes to imply the removal was the responsibility of Batten

    I appreciate ethics and honesty are rarely in the lexicon of this anonymous coward thus presumably too ashamed to put their name to their dishonesty – as ever – Oh so very UKIP!

    . GLW, a man pretending to deal with facts, hasn’t so far offered any facts in support of that

    Read my posts on this issue and you will readily establish this to be a dishonest misrepresentation of my comments and the facts led – perhaps the idiotic ‘Independent UKIP’ has overlooked in his rush to defame that it was in fact his co creep Arthur Fonzerrelli who stated the likelihood of the complainant being Gerard Batten, in this thread!

    . The fact that GLF has emailed GLW about responsibility for the Junius blog might lead some to think responsibility lay elsewhere.

    As I pointed out on my blog!


    Arthur appears to be incorrect on one point. The cut and paste by GLW is not from Junius but from the words written in this thread by Mjolnir. So if anyone other than Junius might be in some legal trouble (as opposed to Google trouble) it would be Mjolnir and Anthony Butcher ahead of GLW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Independent UKIP View Post
    GLW likes to imply the removal was the responsibility of Batten. GLW, a man pretending to deal with facts, hasn’t so far offered any facts in support of that. The fact that GLF has emailed GLW about responsibility for the Junius blog might lead some to think responsibility lay elsewhere.

    Arthur appears to be incorrect on one point. The cut and paste by GLW is not from Junius but from the words written in this thread by Mjolnir. So if anyone other than Junius might be in some legal trouble (as opposed to Google trouble) it would be Mjolnir and Anthony Butcher ahead of GLW.

    Following on from this, Google have removed another post from the Junius site – it appeared to have been uploaded on Thursday – again, the same text appears to explain the articles removal. I believe it was regarding Mr Batten again.

    I think that whoever it is threatening legal advice obviously feels to have a sound case. And should this libel case ever get to court, I am sure that UKIP would be able to cite many examples of Junius untruths to back up libel claims against the author(s) of that blog. About time too

    We note this odious coward is all too redy to make dishonest claims he is unable to substantiate – Perhaps the odious cowardly creep would care to have the ethics to identify a single solitary libel in ANY of my blogs as he has made the dishonest comment and likewise relative to Junius – However as I and presumably Junius have not sunk to the levels of dishonesty and libel of this UKIP supporter no example or apology will ever be presented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjolnir View Post
    Which libels do you refer to? The truth is no libel.

    Perhaps Batten wants the truth hidden as the panel delberates on the allegations made against him?

    Are you capable of using Google, Fonzie?

    Clearly not with any integrity or honesty hence the liars Fonzie, Independent UKIP and others use anonymity to lie and defame actions which I note neither Mjolnir nor Junius have ever sunk to to my knowledge!

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I think that whoever it is threatening legal advice obviously feels to have a sound case. And should this libel case ever get to court, I am sure that UKIP would be able to cite many examples of Junius untruths to back up libel claims against the author(s) of that blog. About time too

Well, if anyone does take Junius to court for libel, they’ll need about £80 – 100,000 for a straightforward case.

Rather a lot of money when one considers NEVER has a libel been identified on Junius’ blog and none has occurred on my blog.


As for “….UKIP would be able to cite many examples of Junius untruths…”, any idea why they haven’t done that already? Just curious.

Clearly because they have been unable to identify a libel or dishonesty and my blog CLEARLY STATES that I will make ANY material correction of fact brought to my attention and I also offer right of reply to those I publish about.

I note Anthony Butcher is as ever hosting libel and defamatory comments and lies about me on his UKIP controlled blog – from which I was banned, based upon the lies of UKIP and the lies of Paul Nuttall on behalf of Nigel Farage & David Bannerman particularly who wished to suppress facts about them being discussed publicly – just as did Tom Wise as defended by the liar and fantasist douglas Denny, Bob Feel Martinis and other self serving low lifes seeking preferment and status in UKIP.

It will be remembered that Tom Wise was guilty of the criminal behaviour I identified and pursued and served 2 years in prison – strangely Derek Clark who was also ordered to pay back money he had fraudulently obtained (A larger sum than Tom Wise had stolen we understand) has not YET been charged under British law and faced the Courts – possibly in view of his apparent senility!

I note that despite his personal notable political ambitions Anthony Butcher has risen to his metier in the status of utter irrelevance held by a Parish Councillor discussing Dog poo as he does on his parish blog – matters of significance clearly being beyond his authority and his odious self serving dishonesty and obsequious oleaginous comments on the Forum he runs under the control of UKIP, hosting serial attacks and dishonest defamation on behalf of UKIP’s cowardly claque, may in part explain this.

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