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#460* – EUkip WOULD HAVE MADE CHURCHILL VOMIT

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/05/2009


#460* – EUkip WOULD HAVE MADE CHURCHILL VOMIT

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

EUkip, CROUCHER & ‘THE FARAGISTA FAN CLUB’ WOULD HAVE MADE CHURCHILL VOMIT!

Hi,

I bring to you some factual data from Junius where his Blog provides a steady stream of accurate information about EUkip:

Tuesday, 5 May 2009
Mark Croucher: UKIP’s resident legal spokesman

It appears that Mark Croucher – failed publican and serial liar – has been appointed UKIP’s unofficial spokesman on legal matters.

On the British Democracy Forum he has been trying desperately to promote the idea that various data protection complaints against UKIP have been rejected by the Information Commissioners Office.

Croucher, for reasons only known to himself, has neglected to give examples of how UKIP’s leadership has failed in it’s attempts to take legal action against various past and present UKIPPERS or supporters.

In the interests of fairness – and to save Croucher any further embarrassment – here are some of UKIP‘s most recent legal blunders:

Douglas Denny’s versus Greg Lance-Watkins. Complaint made to Police.

Complaint concerned Greg Lance-Watkinss publication of email correspondence between Douglas Denny and Jonathan Arnott. Denny claimed this was a criminal breach of the Data Protection Act.

Complaint rejected by the Police. No further action.

(G.L-W. > It should be noted that Douglas Denny & Mark Croucher dishonestly claim this is untrue – be advised it is true.
However despite Douglas Denny’s now published ‘e’Mail admitting the police will take no further action he has now duplicitously decided to invent a new fantasy to waste police time and harass me, based on the nonsense Croucher has been claiming.)

UKIP versus Roger Knapman MEP, Piers Merchant, Sir Richard Body QC, Dr Eric Edmond, Dr David Abbott, Del Young, Prof. Tim Congdon, Bruce Lawson and Martin Haslam. Complaint made by Paul Nuttall to New Scotand Yard.

Complaint concerned a letter that had been sent to various UKIP members. In this letter they were asked to vote against the proposed changes to UKIP’s constitution. UKIP’s leadership alleged that the party database had been used unlawfully. Nuttall claimed this was a criminal breach of the Data Protection Act.

Complaint rejected by the Police following interview with Roger Knapman. No further action.

Originally the odious Nuttall had gone to New Scotland Yard and demanded to speak to the ‘political unit’. Nuttall was rather embarrassed to be told that it did not exist!

Which brings me to ……

David Bannerman versus John West and various unnamed persons.

Complaint concerned John West’s alleged harassment, defamation and abuse of David Bannerman and other NEC members. Complaint also concerned ‘all those that have been engaged in these vile, selfish and disloyal attacks on the party’.

Last year David Bannerman sent John West the following email:

Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:52:34 +0000
From: dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: David Bannerman email
To: shawforddavid@hotmail.com;
alanbown@btinternet.com;
cgill36@hotmail.co.uk;
davidfabbott@btinternet.com;
del1young@yahoo.co.uk;
derekrclark@hotmail.co.uk;
douglas.denny@btopenworld.com;
eric_edmond@hotmail.com;
eric.edmond@tiscali.co.uk;
ukipse@ukip.org;
jill_seymour@btopenworld.com;
lisa.duffy2@tesco.net;
martaandreasen@auna.com;
mazuckerman@bensonmazure.co.uk;
ukipbootle@yahoo.co.uk;
rjoxley@lineone.net;
susan@keymerhaslam.co.uk;
johnwest81@hotmail.com

Dear Mr West,

Thank you. I believe you are referring to the confidential document supplied to NEC members only concerning a disciplinary submission against Dr Edmond ? Others have reported this document being shown around, and who by. As a breach of confidentiality can result in instant dismissal from the NEC under the Constitution, I am most grateful to you for your personal confirmation of this breach.

You are well aware of the libellous remarks you made against me, and which you have refused to apologise for ( your statement reproduced below, which was followed by other libellous remarks ). I have never claimed that you reported me to the police, though I understand you made a complaint against Stuart Gulleford and Jeffrey Titford to the Essex Police, which they have found to have no basis whatsoever. This is also referred to in your statement reproduced below.

Your constant harassment of NEC members and other party members, including myself with entirely false accusations of dishonesty, corruption and fraud, and on an almost daily basis, is totally unacceptable.

I therefore inform you that I am taking this matter directly to the Metropolitan Police´s political unit in an appointment next week, on grounds of criminal defamation and abuse, serious offences punishable under the Harassment Act 1997.

I will be asking the police at that meeting to investigate all those that have been engaged in these vile, selfish and disloyal attacks on the party. This a time when we should be preparing for essential elections next year, not being diverted by self-serving rants, and you have to question the motive. You yourself are ( currently ) a UKIP PPC and yet you regard it as acceptable to go to the Secretary General of the European Parliament to protest at my legitimate UKIP activities.

I have your e mail and this is also being supplied to the police.
I confirm I will be providing the police too with copies of all your other e mails, and with all the relevant e mails of Gregg Lance Watkins ( or is it Lance-Watkins or just Watkins ? ), amongst others. The police also have the power to require webhosts to reveal the e mail identity of contributors to such websites.

Yours Sincerely,

David Campbell Bannerman

Taken from GLW’s blog:

Bannerman went along to New Scotland Yard and demanded to speak to the ‘political unit’. He was told it did not exist – if only he had bothered to tell Nuttall!

Complaint rejected by Police. No further action.

Posted by Junius at 17:56

Hi,

I was interested in a completely misleading comment posted on Anthony Butcher’s Forum, where he seemingly has made a corrupt and dishonest ‘deal’ with the liars who run EUkip such as Paul Nuttall Nigel Farage’s unelected placeman who chairs EUkip.

I take the liberty of addressing it in sections:

Posted by Mark Croucher:
The reason ‘Junius‘ knows this is because Piers received a series of e-mails relating to the launch of a poster campaign.

I can attest that this is complete bunkum, as I am aware of the sources ‘Junius‘ accessed to give the news – you will note that I cautioned that the info. was bunkum as clearly EUkip would not be competent to organise such an event in a competent manner.

I also stated I believed the info. to be a spoof BEFORE Junius published.

Posted by Mark Croucher:
The e-mails covered the design

Which Junius did NOT publish, despite deciding to go along with the spoof as it was so widely discussed in clandestine tones amongst several senior members and also in Brussels we understood.

Posted by Mark Croucher:
timing

In the knowledge of THE ANNOUNCED timings of launches ‘good guess’ was Junius right?

Posted by Mark Croucher:
regional spread and other associated details relating to the campaign, including launch media.

Yes ‘loose’ details relatively openly discussed.

Posted by Mark Croucher:
The e-mails involved myself, Paul Nuttall, Jonathan Arnott, Clive Page and Damian Wilson.

So that is at least 3 proven liars who have shown they can not be trusted – how very impressive!

Posted by Mark Croucher:
Jonathans, of course, were copied to Piers.

& who else? Perhaps Croucher can also invent a partially plausible fantasy to delude people that he can prove Merchant received the matter – then that he passed it on in ANY unauthorised or unlawfull way to ANYONE.

Posted by Mark Croucher:
All of those involved, with the exception of Piers, knew that no such campaign was actually planned,

Untrue when I heard of it I was morally convinced it was a childish spoof and openly said so.

Posted by Mark Croucher:
and it was merely a ruse to see whether ‘Junius’ would mention an anti-BNP campaign before it was launched

What twaddle and what would that have proved?

Perhaps even as an American citizen colluding with extremist clandestine political organisations like Searchlight Croucher could be expected to be aware that ‘entrapment’ is morally reprehensible, unsound evidence and unacceptable under law in almost all instances and civilised Countries.

Posted by Mark Croucher:
such a mention would, of course, damage the campaign and forewarn the BNP.

How could that be likely as the details of the campaign under discussion were not being clearly defined by either Junius or his sources known to me.

Posted by Mark Croucher:
It would also indicate that Piers was prepared to pass on information which would be strategically damaging to UKIP.

It really is despicable when 3 or more proven liars conspire together to defame a man without a single shred of evidence, by use of the morally reprehensible practice of ‘entrapment’.

This sort of dishonest behaviour that has so damaged UKIP over recent years – often with some of the most distastefull individuals at the heart of the scheming.

Just as Croucher bases his ENTIRE argument on supposition and unconvincing claims even goes so far as to use the statement that

It would also indicate INDEED ie it fails to PROVE.

It could equally clearly ‘indicate’ that Croucher, who would seem to be an habitual liar and serial business failure and failure in life, has a reputation for bragadoccio and an inability to keep his mouth shut, his zip shut and his wallet shut until empty – thus clearly this indicates Croucher may well have leaked the information himself.

That his partners in this childish plot included proven liars rendered it an utterly implausible story and plane rubbish.

It is also clear that these dishonest individuals may well have consorted to fabricate information in an attempt to try to dishonestly damage those they saw as exposing the truth about EUkip that could keep them from the crumbs falling from their masters at the troughs on the Gravy Train!

Just as it is probable that Croucher may have colluded with others to supply me with ‘e’Mails and data bases to try to imply I have in some way acted dishonourably in exposing the corruption, lies and dishonesty of EUkip and The Faragista Fan Club – we do know Douglas Denny is a dishonest and corrupt individual also such that even the NEC of EUkip at one stage fired him from a position of trust as a result of his dishonesty and corruption.

It is my belief that with Croucher leading there is not a single solitary individual Croucher names, with whom he colluded who do not owe Piers Merchant, Junius and I an unequivocall apology accompanied by their resignation from EUkip for having brought the party into disrepute with their fantasies and lies.

We note despite the admission that EUkip’s systems leak like a sieve there is still the idiocy of trying to pretend the facts Junius and I publish are in some way ‘untrue’.

That Croucher, clearly with the collusion of Nuttall and Arnott, Page and Wilson it seems, has seen fit to publish the proof that The ICO HAS acted, on behalf of John West, under the terms of The DPA despite his lies and implications to the contrary.

The letter, heavily redacted to suit EUkip, has shown EUkip has been most vigerously cautioned and officially warned – It is clear that Croucher has had access to EUkip confidential data in flagrant disregard of the warning – further Croucher advises that subsequent to the official warning EUkip in complete contempt of the warning has been ‘e’Mailing EUkip data bases and material covered by the DPA in gay abandon without encryption!

In terms of the ICO chucking the book at EUkip it starts to look as if they will require a substantial library to provide enough books.

Astonishingly these low lifes and liars have as little regard for The Data Protection Act as had Andrew Smith, Nigel Farage, David Lott, John Wittacker and others had for the Electoral Commission and Electoral Law – leading to a Guilty Verdict in the Courts and the very real prospect of bankrupting the party to quote Ma Zucherman!

It is increasingly clear that EUkip and its entire leadership team and direct staff and supporters are unfit for election to ANY public office.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#459* – EUkip IN COLLUSION IN DISHONESTY

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 05/05/2009


#459* – EUkip IN COLLUSION IN DISHONESTY

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

EUkip IN COLLUSION IN DISHONESTY WITH Anthony BUTCHER of LIBERTAS, Brendan PADMORE of EUkip & The BDF!

Hi,

It would seem from his posting today – despite the clarification I have provided in previous Blogs that Brendan Padmore has little or no understanding of the fact that I have proved that he and Anthony Butcher are INDUBITABLY Corrupt, Liars & Dishonest – he poses the question to Niall Warry despite the fact that it has been proven conclusively:

Today, 12:22 PM
#103 (permalink)

B.A.Ware (aka. Brendan PADMORE)
Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 5,870
Party: UKIP

Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall Warry

However rant or not most of what he says is still true.

So you agree both myself and Anthony are Corrupt, Liars, Dishonest and doing the work of EUkip.

G.L-W. > You will note that The Forum has been corrupted by the unbalanced Moderation which grants a platform for dishonesty and lies about me on a serial basis whilst removing facts stated and proven when made by me.

Both Butcher & Padmore have lied about this.

There is a fundamental dishonesty on their part, shown in many instances – let us take one I have not already shown:

UKIndependenceParty
PO Box408
Newton Abbot
Devon
United Kingdom
TQ12 9BG
partychairman@ukip.org

Dear Sir or Madam,

I am the Party Chairman of the fourth-largest political party in the United
Kingdom, the UK Independence Party. I am writing to request that you take
immediate action concerning the website http://www.democracyforum.co.uk, which
your company is hosting, and which has knowingly permitted libellous and
defamatory statements about myself and the rest of my party’s leadership,
in direct violation of the law in the UK.

Your Service Contract (Section 1.B, User Conduct) states that users must
not”Post or transmit any unlawful, threatening, abusive, libelous,
defamatory, obscene, offensive, indecent, pornographic, profane, or
otherwise objectionable information of any kind, including without
limitation any transmissions constituting or encouraging conduct that would
constitute a criminal offense, give rise to civil liability, or otherwise
violate any local, state, federal or international law, including without
limitation the U.S. export control laws and regulations, and laws
protecting intellectual property including copyright, trademark, trade
secret, misappropriation and anti-dilution laws”

Literally hundreds of posts on this publicly-viewable forum
(www.democracyforum.co.uk) are not only false, but also defamatory and
libellous under UKlaw. These posts are now being viewed by British media
organisations as well as members of the general public – which is damaging
the reputation of my party. The moderator (and owner of the forum) has
been reminded of the existence of libel laws in the UK, and of the
responsibility that they, and the hosting company, have to prevent the
publication of a libel. In the UK, either publishing or repeating a libel
is in itself libellous.

Legal action is currently being prepared against the moderators of the
forum if action is not taken; I am now asking you as the hosting company to
exercise your responsibility – both under UKlaw and under your own Service
Contract – to shut down such content as soon as it is made aware of its
existence.

You may also be interested to note that on the bottom of the main page, the
site claims to be hosted by a different company with the clear intention of
confusing the general public.

Please find just three significant examples of libel within the last week
below:

1. The third post in this topic accuses the Deputy Leader of our party of
being a ‘proven and established fraud and liar’. Under UKlaw, it is
libellous. The party holds a Criminal Records bureau enhanced disclosure
which demonstrates the falsehood of the claims made.
http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/ukip-general-issues/54205-ukip-official-blog-nec-meeting.html

2. The first post in this topic accuses me personally of being
‘treacherous’. Under UKlaw, this is likewise libellous and
defamatory.http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/ukip…ues/54190-nigel-farage-paul-nuttall-sordid-story-behind-beaman-s-departure.html

3. The third post in this topic is libellous because it accuses the Party
Leader of “total amorality, bullying, adultery, and drunkenness,
vengefulness and
lying”.http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/ukip…54184-david-abbott-corrects-andrew-edwards.html

I would appreciate an immediate acknowledgement of receipt of this email,
and your speedy assurance that swift action will be taken in accordance
with British law.

Yours faithfully,

Paul Nuttall -Chairman, UKIndependenceParty

G.L-W. > This threatening letter from Paul Nuttall, the unelected placeman and puppet for Nigel Farage as chairman of The Faragista Fan Club on The EUkip NEC, remains to this day on The Forum although it is a tissue of lies, unsubstantiated by a single item of factual provenance – here is what Brendan Padmore said of it at the time:

21-11-2008, 12:02 AM
#36 (permalink)

B.A.Ware
Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 5,868
Party: UKIP

What a very poor day for UKIP, now they want to shut down freedom of speech bloody unbelievable.

After exchanges with the dishonest and duplicitous Paul Nuttall here is what Butcher said of him:

21-11-2008, 12:09 PM
#49 (permalink)

Anthony Butcher
Administrator

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Long Ashton, Bristol
Posts: 10,649
Party: Libertas

I just had a chat with Paul Nuttall. He seems like a very friendly, reasonable chap and hopefully we have come to an agreement about how to proceed.

Here is my summary of the situation at the time:

21-11-2008, 08:45 PM
#65 (permalink)

Greg Lance-Watkins
Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: The Web Cam behind your screen – Smile
Posts: 838

SILENCE FREE SPEECH to control the truth

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony Butcher
I just had a chat with Paul Nuttall. He seems like a very friendly, reasonable chap and hopefully we have come to an agreement about how to proceed.

Hi,

some of the most dangerous and poisinous snakes in the world are truely beautiful.

Benito Mussolini was a generous host.

Mau was charming particularly to 12 year old girls.

Pol Pot was generous to his supporters granting them great privileges.

Hitler was an excellent and convincing speaker.

Blair presented a good PR team.

Stalin was kind and generous to his ‘chosen’.

Learn the truth about Ukip which has been infiltrated and hijacked by a corrupt, dishonest and incompetent leadership team at [SNIPPED – repeat spam advert] FACT after FACT after FACT exposing the seizing of the party by its present leadership and predictive material showing how they aim to get absolute control with a night of the long knives in February removing the honest men and women who stand in their way.

One of the first steps is clearly to SILENCE FREE SPEECH to control the truth.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

It is interesting that if you go to the thread in question on Anthony Butchers Forum you will find that a number of my postings have dishonestly been removed in complete denial of freedom of speech – I well remember a posting I made in support of Butcher’s original robust rejection of Nuttall’s dishonest and threatening pack of lies.

Interestingly in compliance with Nuttall’s demands Butcher has dishonestly and duplicitously corrupted the Forum by rendering the entire thread (as so often) a pack of unbalanced and duplicitous lie – he has deceitfully removed the posting, in which I completed a line by line evisceration of the lies and dishonesty of Paul Nuttall on behalf of EUkip.

Some may recall I gave substantiation, cross reference, irrefutable evidence and facts showing that Nuttall’s letter was a pack of lies. You will also note that in colluding with the dishonesty of Nuttall, Butcher particularly has shown himself to be without morality or understanding of ethical behaviour. You will note the links provided by Nuttall in his dishonest claims have been conveniently sanitised to perpetuate a dishonest myth.

Perhaps Brendan Padmore can identify where he spoke out against such dishonesty!

I stand by my every word as proven repeatedly.

May I suggest that if liars object to being proven liars that they cease to lie and apologise for their behaviour?

’If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen’. An admonishment most frequently attributed to Harry S. Truman.

Perhaps we can have an end to the serial attempts being made, particularly by Brendan Padmore, to justify his underhand duplicity and willingness to perform dishonest tasks for EUkip – an apology would be appreciated, particularly since he has dishonestly accused me of consequential dishonesty and lies, yet has failed utterly to substantiate his fantasies.

In answer to his complaint that he is denied a right of reply – although somewhat rich coming from him – he will note I have published his serial attempts to justify his lies and dishonesty and dealt with them in some detail.

I have every reason to honestly believe I have not only made my case and proved it, but have dealt convincingly with his excuses, despite his failure to provide on iota of evidence of dishonesty on my part.

I stand by my statement:
’Brendan Padmore and Anthony are Corrupt, Liars, Dishonest and doing the work of EUkip.’
As selected for analysis by Brendan Padmore.

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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#458* – PRAISE WHERE IT IS DUE

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/05/2009

#458* – PRAISE WHERE IT IS DUE

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

PRAISE WHERE IT IS DUE – THE EUKIP VERSION IS EXCELLENT

Hi,

To be fair one really must give credit where it is due.

In my opinion in 15 years and having had 12 MEPs elected in 2004 with almost 30,000 members actively campaigning for EUkip; sadly EUkip has been fairly catastrophic, as I predicted a dozen years ago; as a result of Farage having seized control of the leadership and stuffed the upper echelons of the party with placemen and idiots for fear of challenge.

However someone on his staff has dared to produce something worthwhile – albeit a near copy of someone elses earlier parody of the wording.

Well done whoever produced this version of the lampoon – sad that this is EUkip’s greatest achievement!

Beware whoever produced this version as there is a risk your days are numbered Farage fears achievement. To date he has ensured that no one survives to challenge him – just look at the callibre of those he has gathered around him – not a single solitary individual of principle, morality or calibre – the very worst of sychophants, deeply flawed individuals who Farage can control by their weaknesses.

Here is one of the many earlier versions:

However praise where it is due and EUkip’s version is very good – EUkip needs a bit of a lift to its spirits particularly today – the day on which it has been reported that one of their Churchill posters has been Paint Bombed by the anti Fascist League who seem to be confused by EUkip, now that Farage has dragged it back into a centrally controlled, authoritarian right wing extremist party with Kangaroo Courts and absolute power for the leader – sacking democratically elected members, fantasising on TheBNP with fantasies of being under attack and trumped up accusations to dupe the police into mounting an era of fear within the party.

Nigel Farage’s own ‘Reichstag Fire Moment’ – we now have Paul Nuttall & Jonathan Arnott orchestrating a new ‘Crystal Nacht’ warning people of so called fake ‘e’Mails and what they should and shouldn’t read!

Heaven help Britain if EUkip are EVER elected to any meaningfull position of power whilst the undeniably corrupt, duplicitous and dishonest Faragista Fan Club have seized control.

Not withstanding do enjoy the amusing video which EUkip has produced – better than any of the many earlier versions copied, in my opinion.

It is sad that it was felt neccessary that the language should be obscene and it adds little to the rant, however the leadership of EUkip know the type of people they wish to attract and one only has to read the blogs of some of their staff and inner circle, and note the morality of Farage’s leadership, staff and inner circle!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#457* – More On BDF & EUkip DISHONESTY

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/05/2009


#457* – More On BDF & EUkip DISHONESTY

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

More On BDF (formerly UKIPForum) & EUkip DISHONESTY!

http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/talk-about-anything/55095-goodbye-greg.html

I received a warning which I saw during the afternoon – I put the only source I knew, who could confirm the matter, on dial back – they were at work.

I spoke with them as soon as they came in and they rapidly supplied the facts that I clearly could not, without a breech of trust.

ABSOLUTELY NO EFFORT was made to contact me to verify my facts – I doubt whether the full 24 hours were available. ALL the moderators have my phone number and ‘e’Mail and I am not that hard to contact.

Perhaps Brendan Padmore can inform us why he glibly accepted the word of the liar who claimed there was no such claim yet demanded I provide evidence which WAS provided at the earliest possible opportunity, as he knows.

John West said…
Hello. I have been informed that comments have been made by Greg Lance-Watkins on the British Democracy Forum. These comments concern Peter Reeve and have led to Mr Lance-Watkins being banned from the Forum.

In the interests of fairness I can confirm that I have made a complaint to the police about Mr Reeve. However, this is all that I am prepared to say at the present time.

December 9, 2008 6:55 PM

As for the claim Padmore’s comment:
Brendan Padmore is a liar and a cheat and Anthony Butcher also as they conspire to provide a corrupted Forum on which selected individuals are given a platform for abuse and lies, dishonesty and defamation – whilst others are prevented the right of reply.

And what right of reply does he give. NONE.

Also if I am working for EUkip as GLW like to imply(LIE) why haven’t I banned you and Junius?
G.L-W.: well that is rich coming from Brendan Padmore! Consistently he and Anthony Butcher have provided a platform for people to lie, dissemble, mislead, abuse and defame me, even anonymously and with the endorsement of the Forum.

They are absolutely unable to find a single solitary instance where I have deliberately or consequentially lied or set out to mislead ANYONE – ever in my life let alone on their corrupt Forum or any of my Blogs – were they able to identify such a case I would clearly apologise as there is absolutely no value to me in dishonesty.

Brendan Padmore is clearly Dishonest.

BRENDAN PADMORE CLAIMS:
’Also if I am working for EUkip as GLW like to imply(LIE)’

Quite obviously a lie by Brendan Padmore!

As proven if you read:
http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/ukip-general-issues/54409-ukip-preparing-legal-action-against-forum.html

You will find he and Anthony Butcher have acquiesced to the lies and dishonesty of the bullying and completely groundless fantasies of Paul Nuttall Nigel Farage’s unelected placeman as chairman of the debased and dishonest EUkip.

For more information SEE:
CLICK HERE
or
CLICK HERE
or
CLICK HERE
or
CLICK HERE

There are many more factual statements supported by evidence on my Blogs.

It is ASTONISHING the clear death wish of EUkip!

Consider:

Brendan Padmore raises this issue providing an opportunity for all and sundry to revisit the lies and dishonesty of EUkip’s dishonest unelected chairman Paul Nuttall.

Failed publican & drinking parasite of Nigel Farage Mark Croucher posts on behalf of EUkip, confidential material in flagrant disregard of a detailed warning to EUkip from the ICO.

Mark Croucher shows that although not employed in any capacity by EUkip he has gained access to their main servers to make mischief – presumably intercepting ‘e’Mails between Douglas Denny & Jonathan Arnott that found their way into my hands possibly fulfilling the wishes of his associates in the extremist and shady political organisation Searchlight, or in a foolish attempt to pretend I am implicated in some dishonesty.

Mark Croucher has access to the servers and makes it clear that entire data bases are being ‘e’Mailed around the country unencrypted, in flagrant disregard of The Data Protection Act and the OFFICIAL WARNING issued to EUkip, as posted by Mark Croucher in breech of confidence on what was UKIPForum.

In an attempt to embroil me I note that I have recently received 2 separate CDs with what the anonymous senders presumed would be an update to my EUkip membership lists – they were not but thanks all the same! I did a small test on the new discs supplied and interestingly I find the ‘bounce rate’ would indicate about a 10% inaccuracy of information on EUkip’s data base.

I note that further damaging EUkip has been the attempt to gain publicity for the underhand and duplicitous Andrew Smith who legged it at speed when he was Treasurer as he could not answer some 20 basic questions regarding the accounts and in a display of totally unprofessional behaviour failed to complete the accounts, leaving them in such a random mess that his replacement made the astonishing claim at Telford that he had no idea what the accounts were before he took over!!

Many will remember it was Andrew Smith in collusion with David Lott and Nigel Farage who wittingly received in excess of £350,000 unlawfully and failed to correct the situation despite several ‘e’Mails, letters phone conversations and face to face meetings with The Electoral Commission to rectify the problem. Refusal to comply led to EUkip being found Guilty of a criminal act under electoral law. Part of the evidence led was an ‘e’Mail which I supplied (as I gather did a couple of other sources) which showed, to the Court’s satisfaction, malevolent intent to deceive written by Andrew Smith.

It seems foolsish to raise the profile of this utterly disreputable man just before an election – when he and Nigel Farage are the main causes of the probability of surrender and costs of potentially well over £1/2Million of funds by EUkip.

We note that the only person willing to defend Andrew Smith’s behaviour is the discredited liar Mick McGough (another of EUkip’s candidates!).
Michael Zucherman has clearly stated in a letter I have that:
’I mentioned the High Court proceedings brought by The Electoral Commission for forfeiture of £300,000 which could have destroyed the party’. Therefore since this Guilty verdict is now subject to reconsideration of the forfeiture and costs clearly Ma Zucherman as EUkip’s party secretary is clearly aware the party faces financial ruin due to Andrew Smith, David Lott & Nigel Farage – this can be verified and has been by John de Roeke.

EUkip would seem not to have a single solitary credible candidate standing as prospective MEP on June 4th. And seem determined to bring this to public attention.

As ever I am happy to debate these facts with anyone and can obviously substantiate every word.

Perhaps whilst on the subject someone can explain why Nigel Farage sees fit to lie about his actions (participation and collusions) in the matter of criminal charges regarding Tom Wise EUkip MEP and Lindsay Jenkins EUkip researcher and sometime speech writer for Nigel Farage. Why has Nigel Farage blatantly lied on TV & Radio?

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#456* – Brendan PADMORE TRIES TO JUSTIFY DISHONESTY!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/05/2009


#456* – Brendan PADMORE TRIES TO JUSTIFY DISHONESTY!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

Brendan PADMORE TRIES TO JUSTIFY HIS DISHONESTY BACKED BY LIES & SELF SERVING MISREPRESENTATION!!

Hi,

Let us start with an unequivocal statement of fact:

Brendan Padmore is a liar and a cheat and Anthony Butcher also as they conspire to provide a corrupted Forum on which selected individuals are given a platform for abuse and lies, dishonesty and defamation – whilst others are prevented the right of reply.

Anthony Butcher & Brendan Padmore thus show themselves to be without ethics, morality or integrity – cowards beneath contempt.

astonishingly Brendan Padmore, of what was The UKIPForum until it cow towed to bullying and changed name, hidden behind a foolish screen name B.A.Ware (overlooking the full caveat of B.A. Ware of Dishonesty and stupidity, perhaps) Padmore makes the following unsubstantiable statement:

Yesterday, 12:21 PM #52 (permalink)
B.A.Ware
Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 5,863
Party: UKIP

The only thing I will say on the subject is GLW is a serial liar, he has lied about me and Anthony on his blog and he has Lambasted Bob so I really couldn’t care what people say about him.
He is more than happy slagging people off on his blog but cries like a baby when he gets some back.

Some indication of the veracity of his claim is that he can not find a single solitary consequential example to back his dishonest claim.

He even goes so far as to say he is indifferent to honesty or accuracy, truth or integrity!
QUOTE:
I really couldn’t care what people say about him
EXACTLY my complaint!

Let us consider his comment
QUOTE:
He is more than happy slagging people off on his blog
Yes I am all too happy to, as he so quaintly puts it ‘slag people off’, when I can provide factual details as to why I am exposing their dishonesty, corruption or abuse of office. Similarly whenever people seek preferment or reward by dishonesty or distortion of the truth.

YOU may well have read some or all of my Blog – perhaps YOU can find a single item where I justify Brendan Padmore’s dishonest and unpleasant comments.

Padmore continues dishonestly to try to demean me with the comment
QUOTE:
but cries like a baby when he gets some back
Perhaps he can justify this statement in his self serving attempts – perhaps he finds it surprising that I stand my ground and defend myself when I am lied about or dishonestly defamed by the likes of Bob Feel Martinis, Douglas Denny, Paul Nuttall, Mark Croucher, Mick McGough, David Bannerman on the dishonest platform he as a moderator and EUkip Party member and Anthony Butcher of Libertas seem all to willing to provide.

Do note his comment
QUOTE:
I really couldn’t care what people say about him
AND:
I am not interested in the rights or wrongs of Bobs posts I just wouldn’t take any notice of what GLW said

So Brendan Padmore is so dishonourable and dishonest as to grant in written form on a public Forum a license for people to use that Forum to defame and lie about me – he then clamours of his honesty!!

YOU decide!

It was afterall Brendan Padmore who dishonestly banned me from defending myself on the Forum and Butcher, having no moral compass and clearly no ethical values who endorsed the dishonesty and has provided the corrupt platform for lies and defamation – even by those seeking to abuse in anonimity without ONE shred of factual evidence.

I was removed for making a verified statement of FACT, no doubt to comply with the undeniable lies of Paul Nuttall, who was proved to have lied in detail.

The following statements of fact I have made have been selected from some 6-700 blog postings and some numerous 1,000s of postings I have made to try to present a case of consequential dishonesty on my part.

Not ONE comment I have made that he has chosen to quote supports his utterly unfounded and dishonest claims – thus clearly Brendan Padmore has proved himself dishonest and a liar – he has also thus shown that the Forum is deliberately corrupt and dishonest providing a platform for lies, libels and defamation.

Here are the examples he chose!:
(My interjections in text)

Yesterday, 01:12 PM #56 (permalink)
B.A.Ware
Moderator
Clearly willing to abuse his position and clearly in obeissance to the lies served on the Forum by Paul Nuttall, which Anthony Butcher has dishonestly accepted!

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 5,863
Party: UKIP
Party: UKIP why would anyone be surprised!

I am not interested in the rights or wrongs of Bobs posts
Padmore omits the fact that this goes for anyone wishing to defame me or lie about me, misrepresent or abuse – So Padmore clearly confirms his dishonesty!

I just wouldn’t take any notice of what GLW said or did not say
That is abundantly clear facts, truth, provenance and accuracy are not relevant to the dishonest like Padmore

he has proved to me that he is a very unpleasant man.
Frankly considering the source I take that as a compliment – I have no desire to be popular with the corrupt and am happy to be their ‘hate figure’.

Here is some of the rubbish he has posted about me and Anthony.
I stand by every single comment in the context in which it was written and have provided irrefutable facts and evidence to prove the truth – as proven by Brendan Padmore’s complete inability to show a single fact in 6-800 Blogs to be untrue!

Quote:
You will note that absolutely no effort is made by corrupt individuals like Anthony Butcher and Brendan Padmore to cirb the excesses of the liars on their Forum
As shown by the serial repetition of dishonest statements, lies, abuse and defamation without factual substantiation.

Quote:
Here in Green is the posting made recently by Michael McGough, using the laxity and willingness of Butcher & Padmore to provide a platform for misrepresentation
A statement of fact honestly made by me!

Quote:
It rather shows just how easy it is to take quite simple facts and portray them in a manner which becomes a lie – as with the comments of people like Brendan Padmore who is so stupid he doesn’t even know the extent to which he assists the EU. The world is full of useful idiots
A statement of fact proven again and again – you will note that conveniently Brendan Padmore took this out of context – it is probable that I quoted a clear example to show the veracity of my statement. My regular readers and the lawyers who check my blogs show that I base my blogs on fact and in detail avoiding ANY attempt to lie or deliberately mislead or libel – unlike those to whom Anthony Butcher & Brendan Padmore grant a platform for dishonesty.

Quote:
The level of dishonesty is simple misrepresentation by the corrupt – the dishonesty amongst those with personal ambitions in 2000 was not disimilar to the lies and dishonesties of Mark Croucher, Douglas Denny, Brendan Padmore, Anthong Butcher and their ilk today –
In what way does Brendan Padmore try to claim this statement of fact is inaccurate?

Quote:
BUTCHER & PADMORE HAVING DONE THE BIDDING OF EUkip & DENIED ME THE BASIC RIGHT TO ANSWER WHEN CHALLENGED & REFUTE LIES THEY PROVIDE PLATFORMS FOR!
An accurate and substantiated statement of fact – you will note the lies of Paul Nuttall demanding this dishonest action and his lies in his threats to the Forum.

Quote:
Deal direct don’t settle for the dishonesty of Butcher & Padmore
And what is wrong with this statement – it has been proven beyond doubt that Butcher & Padmore are dishonest and support dishonesty.

Quote:
BUTCHER’S CONTEMPTIBLE HYPOCRACY
BALANCED BY BRENDAN PADMORE’S FAILURE
TO EVEN UNDERSTAND HIS OWN CORRUPTION!
As proven repeatedly with evidence.

Quote:
?
Yeah – I’m puzzled as to why Brendan Padmore has set out to make my case for me!!!

Quote:
It is hard to find terms adequate in contempt to describe the like of Butcher and Padmore and those they aid who lack integrity, morality or any concepts of justice – Oh so very EU!
A statement of proven fact.

Quote:
Anthony Butcher YOU & Brendan Padmore dishonestly and deliberately lied
A statement of proven fact.

Quote:
so that Anthony Butcher and Brendan Padmore can use weasel words to justify their cowardice and dishonesty.
A statement of proven fact.

I could go on but the posts above show just how warped and dishonest the man is so I really couldn’t care if he gets a little bit of his own medicine.
Brendan Padmore has I would contend not only shown why I hold him in contempt but provided the proof positive that he is so without morality he doesn’t even understand his lack of ethics or integrity.

Therefore as he has not led one single solitary fact in his defence yet I have provided fact to back my every statement I am obviously correct when I state:

Brendan Padmore is a liar and a cheat and Anthony Butcher also as they conspire to provide a corrupted Forum on which selected individuals are given a platform for abuse and lies, dishonesty and defamation – whilst others are prevented the right of reply.

Anthony Butcher & Brendan Padmore thus show themselves to be without ethics, morality or integrity – cowards beneath contempt.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#455* – BEWARE OF STANDING ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 03/05/2009


#455* – BEWARE OF STANDING ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

BEWARE OF STANDING ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS FOR THEY HOLD A MAGNIFYING GLASS TO YOU FOR COMPARISSON!

Hi,

It is interesting that EUkip are following the very clear lead of trying to piggy back on the Shoulders of Giants with the implication that great figures from our history just migh promote and endorse the behaviour of The odious BNP be it Churchill, or Dowdings brylcream boys – My Father was a decorated Fighter Pilot with an exemplary war fought in Spitfires and it has been my privilege to have met several of the WWII Battle of Britain pilots and also a number of individuals who have earned VCs, DSOs, DFCs, AFCs, MCs etc.

I currently live in the town where many of Archie McKindo’s Guineapigs were treated, in the building where the last Pathfinder death of the war was born.
I also had the privilege of education at the school which produced both Field Marshalls Haig and Birdwood and served in the army including Sandhurst.

I do not believe that a single solitary leader or highly decorated War time combatant would be other than revolted by The BNP and their refusal to denounce their roots or their funding by the White Supremacist Movement in America that will not denounce the ritual killing of some 4-5,000 young men because they were black or coloured!

Further I do not believe any of those great men or the women of equivalent stature would endorse the determination of The Faragista Fan Club to drag the party back into history with centralised authoritarian etreme right wing policies and the palpable exploitation of Black, Asian and Coloured members (Tokenism).


It is dangerous to align with individuals from history as you will note the EUropean Movement, Lib.Dims. and many EUrophiles habitually quote Winston Churchill out of context to mislead the less well read and poorly educated.

I feel Churchill’s attitude to such deceit would have been VERY clear:

Mindwed that Winston Spencer Churchill was born in 1874 and died in 1965 you will not be surprised that as an Anglo American he held a diversity of views over some 80+ years in the public eye.

You will note one of his early books when serving our Country and putting his life at risk in a dispute/war that goes on to this day and cost China Gordon both his career and his life, the Government papers of the time are still under an extended 100 year embargo!)

Having returned to Britain the young Winston wrote of his experiences and in 1899 the first edition of ‘The River Wars’ was published.

Reprehensibly the revolting Nick Griffin of The BNP saw fit to publish in an open ‘e’Mail to me in one of my vigerous arguments to expose The BNP and its revolting base and total misrepresentations of truth by clever misrepresentation by including half truth in much the way that Hitler, the NSDAP, Searchlight, Mark Croucher, The EUrophiles, and others seeking to sell lies and dishonest scams, policies and products.

Amusingly the copy of the text the odious Griffin used would seem to have been copied from a version I loaded to the internet from my First Edition of this magnificent account when seen in the context of time.

That I so comprehensively and publicly trashed the lies of Griffin led first to him trying to claim that he could not be held responsible just as the Tories had promoted slavery! Clearly he had not realised whom William Wilberforce had supported nor which party had ordered The Royal Navy to seize The Blackbirds and free the cargo. Nor it seems had he much knowledge of the slavers of Barbary and the origins of Morris Dancing and its connections with Barbary slavers in Cornwall & South Wales.

Griffin quit and ran from the ‘e’Mail drubbing and I am given to understand he admonished his senior members to avoid engagement with me!

The danger of misleading quotes based on false or dishonest interpretation is clear:
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries.

Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.

The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science‹the science against which it had vainly struggled‹the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”

Of being fundamentally dishonest and seeking to mislead here are some other heros of our Nation who would have undeniably rejected The BNP and its sordid roots which it refuses to denounce – or for that matter the BNP style behaviour of The Faragista Fan Club.

A dozen years ago I openly stated that Farage was the greatest assett UKIP had but that he ever became leader he waould destroy UKIP as he is too weak, too self indulgent, too light weight and lacks the qualities of leadership or any discernible Officer Qualities – an excellent interviewee, sound bite preasenter and presenter of about 4 speeches.

That does not for one moment constitute a leader and results in sychophants and praise singers who will do anything to perpetuate their own position.

If EUkip and The BNP wish to perpetuate their piggy backing dishonestly on the shoulders of giants here are a few more Great Heros who would have totally rejected them and their practices, they were men of honour and courage. To pretend to the support of the great and stand on the shoulders of giants grants people the absolute right to compare:


TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#454* – WILL EUkip MEP END CAREER IN PRISON?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 03/05/2009


#454* – WILL EUkip MEP END CAREER IN PRISON?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

WILL EUkip MEP Derek CLARK
END His CAREER IN PRISON?!
Hi,

I can confirm, as a result of personal experience and conversation with Tony Elwood (who I first met about 10 years ago) and others, virtually every word Junius has opted to publish, which I have posted below:

More on Derek Clark MEP and Tony Ellwood

I have heard from several ex-UKIPPERS and several current members since I first revealed that the police had arrested Tony Ellwood, Derek Clark’s former researcher. See: LINK

These nasty events are attracting a lot of anger with many pointing the finger of blame at Derek Clark’s office.

It does appear that the ‘Crimestoppers’ charity has been brought into considerable disrepute by a person, or persons in UKIP in order to intimidate Tony Ellwood.

Wasting Police Time is regarded as a very serious crime and carries a maximum penalty of six month’s imprisonment and/or a fine.

The police went to considerable cost to obtain a warrant for the arrest of Ellwood, plan a raid of involving 8 officers and then search the premises until 2pm. Those costs now require paying for.

During the next 10 days it will hopefully emerge from a Nottingham police enquiry who exactly made the very knowledgeable call to Crimestoppers with sufficient correct information to cause the raid.

It appears that there are only 5 people who knew of certain precise information about Tony Ellwood. And it was this precise information that was passed on to Crimestoppers.

Two are Nottingham UKIP volunteer members Ken Browne, and Alan Margeson. Neither are believed to be involved.

The others are Derek Clark MEP, Irena Marriott, Clark’s office manager and Don Ransome, Clark’s Regional Organiser.

All I can say is that it is rather strange that a member of Clark’s paid staff told Tony Ellwood that he would be shortly arrested. How did this person know unless they were fully aware of the call to Crimestoppers?

The 6 month potential jail sentence is straightforward as the people who caused the script to be written and made the call can be identified and exposed. Compensation may be sought by the criminal justice system and as members of the Regional Committee are ‘jointly and severally liable’ I expect that there are now certain UKIPPERS suffering a few sleepless nights!

Happily, there are a few wealthy members on the East Midlands Committee. John Dilkes has homes in Britain and Australia and flies between the two. Peter Baker, a businessman of some repute, may both cover any fines with additional compensation imposed upon the region.

Peter Baker , who you may recall, had a nasty fall out with Derek Clark which resulted in Clark using UKIP’s disciplinary process to rid himself of Baker. So that’s where Jeffrey Titford got the idea from! See: LINK

Clark failed in his attempt to remove Baker from the party and much bad blood was created.

The OLAF investigation into allegations that Clark misused his EU allowance is certainly gathering momentum with the likelihood that Nottingham Police will be asked to launch a full investigation into Clark’s financial activities.

Derek Clark OLAF Case Number: D/007/033/04.09.08
Derek Clark OLAF Investigation Number: DD/FD-D2008.A1/7133/OF/2008/0240

Is Derek Clark – a man accused of fraud – the sort of person you want representing Great Britain for another five years?

To view the original of this article CLICK HERE

You can find out much more if you CLICK HERE or CLICK HERE

Based on probabilities and personal experience it will come as absolutely no surprise to me that Derek Clark could act in so sordid a manner as to sneakily make the call himself or arrange for anonimity of such an underhand man – he is a man who has been proven dishonourable.

If like Tom Wise EUkip MEP the evidence is sufficient I would hope the matter would be dealt with in an exemplary way and both costs and a custodial sentence would be appropriate for such behaviour for an individual in his position.

I do not for a moment state that Derek Clark EUkip MEP is guilty of any offence however based upon his dishonesty in other matters, his betrayal of his local supporters, his witch hunts against loyal UKIP members, his betrayal of these United Kingdoms in collusion with Nigel Farage in advocating greater subsidiarity of these United Kingdoms to the odious and undemocratic EU which seemingly in its corruption, dishonesty and louche life style for its grossly over paid gofers such as Clark – clearly suited his temprament and self seeking self importance.

Since it has been Derek Clark EUkip MEP’s behaviour, track record and lack of honour that leads to a reasonable belief he is embroilled in this vile action against Tony Elwood I make absolutely no apology should it transpire not to involve him or any of his staff or supporters.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#453* – Piers MERCHANT IS NOT JUNIUS

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 02/05/2009

updated: 15:20 03-May-09


#453* – Piers MERCHANT IS NOT JUNIUS

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

Piers MERCHANT IS NOT JUNIUS!

Saturday, 2 May 2009
Piers Merchant is not Junius

The accusation by Croucher that Piers is Junius is laughable. The only people who believe it are the Farage cabal who are eager to find someone to blame as the police have done more often recently than is good for them. They have ended up destroying their own reputation and no one now believes a word they say. UKIP should take notice.

Historians will tell you you have to ask the following questions of any source. Was he in a position to know and was he there at the time to know. The answer to both in Piers case is No! The claim that UKIP’s email system was firing out copies to all and sundry proves only how incompetent UKIP management are, not that Piers is Junius. Croucher will have to go through Junius’s blogs and item by item trace the information back to Arnot’s emails and show the blog items occured shortly after the email was sent to sustain his case. One or two items will not suffice as there are many other possible sources for Junius‘s material.

I do not know who Junius is and I do not want to know. I think he does an excellent job in publishing information about UKIP that the members have a perfect right to know. The same goes for GLW although from time to time he does get a bit carried away by his own rhetoric.

Piers could not possibly know the vast majority of the information Junius and GLW publish. My personal view is that the source must be someone close to Nigel Farage. That passes the place and time test. Also the test of who is damaged and who is not by the leak indicates a source close to NF. Possibly a case of cherchez la femme?

Finally Ruth Shoebridge is organising a UK Renewal umbrella meeting for those from all parties interested in the anti EU cause. It is to be held at:

Chichester, Assembly Rooms, North Street, Chichester PO19 1LQ
Saturday 9th May at 2.30 pm,

There is a large car park to the north of North Street, which surrounds the Chichester Festival Theatre. (several acres of parking space)

Premier event of the season for all interested in UK action to get us out of the EU and get our country back!

The purpose of the meeting, is to meet people from every political party, who are concerned about Britain’s relationship with the EU and the general topic will be:.

‘ What is the best way forward to get us out of the EU?’

Petrina Holdsworth (UKFirstParty) and others will speak but most of the time will be given over to debate and Question & Answer.

All are welcome. Tea and biscuits will be available.

Ruth organises these things very well so do attend if you can.
Posted by Eric Edmond at 01:18

9 comments:

Bob Feal-martinez said…
So if it’s not true, we can expect Piers to sue.

I suppose you are not Somerset either.

02 May 2009 02:48
Bob Feal-martinez said…

Petrina Holdsworth and others will speak but most of the time will be given over to debate and Question & Answer.

So a UKFP event then. Wonder what the topic will be, oh I know don’t vote UKIP.

Eric when I you going to stop pretending are anything but supportive of UKIP. Have you resigned from UKIP yet and joined UKFP. Clearly that is where your loyalties lie.

02 May 2009 03:12

Eric Edmond said…

Bob

I know you have been kicked off the Forum (Details CLICK HERE) but I do hope you are not going to use my blog as a substitute.

I am not a member of UKFP. I am a member of UKIP. I will always put my country before party and to that end I will support any anti EU initiative.

02 May 2009 05:59

Greg L-W. said…

Hi,

It is interesting to note that Bob FM has been proved to be an habitual liar, unwilling to apologise when publicly exposed for abuse, libel and lies at:
http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/complaints/60437-bobfm.html#post658659 and elsewhere.

Let us deal with fact item by item and correct the misleading and dishonest comment he has made on this Blog.

The BFM said:
So if it’s not true, we can expect Piers to sue.

I would doubt it – Piers is as far as I know not stupid enough to care what the vile little squirt Mark Croucher has to say about anything as Croucher has been known as utterly untrustworthy and a liar for many years to those who have knowledge of EUkip.

Further it would be foolish of Mr. Merchant to sue someone who yet again has failed – this time by being foolish enough to borrow money to launch two pubs during a predictable collapse of the economy, and when even competent experienced publicans are finding their skills are inadequate for survival!

The BFM said:
I suppose you are not Somerset either.

I appreciate The BFM is more than somewhat challenged but even many Spaniards know Somerset is a County!

What was the point of your foolish comment?

The BFM said:
Petrina Holdsworth and others will speak but most of the time will be given over to debate and Question & Answer.

I guess you CAN read – what it says on the tin is likely to be what Ruth Shoebridge delivers.

A good initiative on Mrs. Shoebridge’s part – cross party and opposed to EU membership.

The BFM said:
So a UKFP event then.

But I guess even though The BFM can read – comprehension is a bit challenging!

The BFM said:
Wonder what the topic will be, oh I know don’t vote UKIP.

I believe if you read Dr. Edmond’s information it is clear without your attempt to deliberately damage EUkip’s reputation, they can do that without your Mr. Angry impressions surrounded by veggie crates.

The BFM said:
Eric when I you going to stop pretending are anything but supportive of UKIP.

Could you get your carer to re-write this in English – few understand Manglish.

The BFM said:
Have you resigned from UKIP yet and joined UKFP.

I understand Dr. Edmond despite the abuse and dishonesty of EUkip is still trying to make it a worthwhile Political entity rather than the self seeking ferrets squabbling in a sack without competent or even honest or ethical leadership.

The BFM said:
Clearly that is where your loyalties lie.

I believe your apology is yet again required for this comment or produce just one shred of evidence.

You have proved beyond doubt that your opinion is untrustworthy and you are an habitual liar.

Do please try to act with some integrity and not perpetuate the perception to the honest as a dishonest coward.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62
happy to substantiate EVERY statement and fact on
http://caterpillarsandbutterflies.blogspot.com/

02 May 2009 11:04

Greg L-W. said…

Hi,

Good luck and well done to Ruth Shoebridge for organising a UK Renewal umbrella meeting for those from all parties interested in the anti EU cause.

It is to be held at:

Chichester, Assembly Rooms, North Street, Chichester PO19 1LQ
Saturday 9th May at 2.30 pm,

I hope all goes well and you can do what EUkip has so spectacularly failed to do with their witch hunts, bullying, drunken womanising and dressing up as chickens.

EUkips main achievement seems to have been to betray the EUroRealist Movement, fracture the party, trash the membership and act as recruiting sargeants for the revolting BNP.

Good luck to Ruth and those helping her to Patriotically leave The EU – dedicated individuals like Petrina Holdsworth, Dr. Edmond and many others.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

02 May 2009 11:16

Junius said…

Eric, I can confirm that I am NOT Piers Merchant or even Roger Knapman as some are suggesting.

I will continue to expose corruption in UKIP until Farage and his sycophants are history.

Once they are gone we can reclaim UKIP for all honest members.

02 May 2009 11:44

Greg L-W. said…

Hi,

It is public knowledge that the details of Junius are known to me and that I am in verbal and written communication with Junius.

I am prepared to attest that there is absolutely no reason to believe that EUkip has the vaguest clue as to the identity of Junius.

I am willing to attest, if Piers Merchant were foolish to waste his time in litigation on the matter, that Piers Merchant IS NOT a part of Junius.

I can also attest that Piers Merchant has NEVER communicated with Junius and as with everyone else it seems he has no idea who Junius is or howmany people are involved.

Mark Croucher and his followers Bob FM and the idiot Douglas Denny are completely wrong and are potentially liable to prosecution by Piers Merchant, were he so foolish – I believe any Court would treat the matter as nuisance by fools and would advise Piers Merchant to ‘Consider The Source’.

Dishonest little men of bile, vitriol and hatred. Proven repeatedly to be dishonest, untrustworthy and self interested even amongst their colleagues.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

02 May 2009 12:28

Bob Feal-martinez said…
So that’s alright then we can believe a man who for months and months denied he had criminal convictions.

Eric do not fear, I have no intention of posting endlessly on here. I will monitor what GLW / Junius posts and respond accordingly.

I can tell you that there are some seriously ‘pee’d’ off SW UKIP who feel very betrayed by Piers and they have a right to be. I understand there is more to come on that front.

He won’t sue by the way because using police parlance, ‘he is bang to rights’.

02 May 2009 12:44

Greg L-W. said…

Hi,

It is at times hardly surprising that the Police are called ‘Pigs’ by some – I note Bob FM is back with more Porkies! One only needs a few rotten apples to contaminate a whole barrel.

The BFM said
So that’s alright then we can believe a man who for months and months denied he had criminal convictions.

Perhaps the many months can be identified? No I thought not. Presumably this would be the grievous crime of accidentally shipping a girlfriend’s pistol & 50 rounds of ammo. back into Britain after 10 years abroad, with our household effects a long spent offence for which I was merely fined and took the ‘rap’ as the owner of the firearm was an American citizen.

As a long since Police Officer one would have thought this low life Bob FM would have understood the concept of ‘Spent Crime’.

The fact that it is probable that details of this technical offence and other details (NON Criminal, from aiding the Police) were criminally obtained via EUkip or its agents abusing the sloppy security of the UK and unlawfully obtaining an ‘Enhanced CRB’ or access to the PNC without authority would matter little to the ethics of the likes of Bob FM or EUkip.

The BFM said
I can tell you that there are some seriously ‘pee’d’ off SW UKIP who feel very betrayed by Piers and they have a right to be.

I doubt this is a surprise to anyone based upon the lies and dishonesty of Mark Croucher, Bob FM, Douglas Denny and the vile group that now seem to have hijacked EUkip for their personal gain – as they bandy round distorted half truths in a feeding frenzy to try to get near the troughs on the EU’s Gravy Train.

The BFM said
I understand there is more to come on that front.

Based on past record of these individuals lies and distortions.

Not one shred of plausible evidence has been shown to substantiate what seems to be a pack of lies and suppositions.

The BFM said
He won’t sue by the way because using police parlance, ‘he is bang to rights’.

No that is only the very ignorant Police the more competent ones use the criminal parlance of ‘Banged to rights’.

Sadly there has been absolutely no evidence of ANY criminal action to back up all the lies being promulgated in desparation by EUkip’s army of vile myth spreeders.

Bob FM would seem to have failed to note he was chucked off of what was UKIPForum not only for telling lies and abusing people but when it was proven he was a liar and could not back his lies with evidence and was not man enough to apologise when ‘Banged to rights’ he was banned for 6 months.

Only a coward would keep behaving thus in the hope/belief that no one can be bothered or afford to sue them.

They do say scum rises and sadly EUkip is there to prove the point – so sad when so many of us did so much to build the party, sad to see it being destroyed – choked by the scum.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
02 May 2009 14:46

Bob Feal-martinez said…
I am sure that anyone who visits Eric’s blog will be thrilled to learn that Eric allows GLW to defend him.

I also note that GLW actually confirms what I posted on BDF that the press are not interested in his rants anymore, although of course he tries to spin it so as to indicate that it’s because the press believe that UKIP is so corrupt and it is so widespread that it’s not news worthy.

Dream on Greg, it’s because they have been threatened so often with legal action and had to apologise because of your ‘facts’ that they see you for what you are a sad, and pathetic old man, seeking an importance that has always eluded you.

I understand from my contacts down your way that people cross the road rather than engage with you.

03 May 2009 00:05

Eric Edmond said…

Bob,

I believe in freedom of speech. That is why I allow you to post comments on my blog. It does not mean I agree with what you say. The principles I apply for you apply equally to Greg and Junius and the same caveats apply.

I also believe in a broad church to allow Euro realists of all persuasions to express their views at Ruth’s meeting at Chichester next Saturday. I do not believe in proscribing political parties, a characteristic of fascist parties since the 1920s.

My views have not changed since I was elected onto the SW MEP list and you can find my views on my website: http://www.ericedmond.com

I stand for British values of justice and fairplay by the rules in all things. Thus I can obviously never be one of Farage’s fascisti.

Piers Merchant did an immense amount to secure the great national and SW result for UKIP in 2004. Piers skills may be better appreciated in the South West after the 2009 results on 7th June

Eric

03 May 2009 05:55

Greg L-W. said…

Hi,

little as I believe other people’s comment sections an appropriate place to openly attack individuals far be it from me to instigate such an attack – I shall leave that to the dishonest and the cowards.

Let us not forget that part of the aim of the original blog was to promote the genuine efforts of Ruth Shoebridge to address gaining the liberty of Britain from the odious and undemocratic EU – And the very best of luck to her and those who are supporting and aiding her.

The other purpose of the blog was to expose the idiocy of EUkip in their involvement with the likes of Mark Croucher and their blatant and flagrant breeches of the Data Protection Act.

Using his usual aggresive and dishonest techniques TheBFM sets out to drag discusion into what would seem to be the gutter in which he lives.

Consider his last attempt to distract from the aim of the original blog where The Bob FM said:
I am sure that anyone who visits Eric’s blog will be thrilled to learn that Eric allows GLW. to defend him.

There is no need for me to defend him he is quite man enough and intelligently capable of defending himself. I merely comment to expose the lies, distortion and dishonesty of the aggresive and unpleasant BFM.

I believe there is no place in British politics for corruption and if it requires his lies and dishonesty to regain our liberty then perhaps we would be better off without such vile concepts.

By all means debate the views and opinions of one’s opponents but to sink to the levels of dishonesty of TheBFM and some others in pursuit of getting their snouts in the EU troughs with EUkip is a measure of the abject failure of EUkip.

The BFM said:
I also note that “>GLW actually confirms what I posted on BDF

From which he was thrown off for abusive behaviour, debasing threads to try to have them locked and a series of lies over a prolonged period for which he refused to apologise when unable to provide facts to back his libels and lies.

The BFM said:
that the press are not interested in his rants anymore, although of course he tries to spin it so as to indicate that it’s because the press believe that UKIP is so corrupt and it is so widespread that it’s not news worthy.

Rather than gratuitous lies and dishonesty perhaps The BFM will be man enough to provide evidence of this statement with provenance or apologise.

The reason the mainstream media publish so little of gravitas or consequence about EUkip is that they are politically insignificant and without gravitas or consequence.

Chicken acts mainly feature as a NIB.

The BFM said:
Dream on “>Greg, it’s because they have been threatened so often with legal action and had to apologise because of your ‘facts’

Further lies from theBFM since he can not for one second substantiate his allegation.

Be a man Bob – provide provenance that a single newspaper has EVER been lied to by me, identify a single instance where a newspaper has EVER faced legal action based on a single word I have said.

Put up the evidence and your provenance of your lie or apologise.

The BFM said:
that they see you for what you are a sad, and pathetic old man, seeking an importance that has always eluded you.

I am indeed sad that due to operative damage I am less able to travel and take other actions in defence of my country – however never, unlike The BFM, have I sought or desired public office and importance.

The BFM said:
I understand from my contacts down your way that people cross the road rather than engage with you.

I am quite sure there are – I have always had a reputation for not suffering fools gladly and I can name several Councillors, Police Officers and other self seekers who it is publicly known I hold in utter contempt.

I would hope that all who consider the style, morality, ethics, values and behaviour of such as TheBFM would make a point of crossing the road – in fact if The BFM could identify them perhaps he would be so good as to suggest they don’t come to Chepstow, we have enough drunks, yobs and low lifes already thanks. We have no need of people like the dishonest and aggresive BFM.

As for the primary contention of Ertic’s Blog, though I have lampooned Piers Merchant over many years that he is Junius I know to be untrue.

That he was receiving mail from EUkip that was in breech of The DPA is no surprise EUkip is utterly incompetent and unfit to receive a single vote.

That EUkip has been mailing its entire ‘e’Mail membership list unencrypted in flagrant disregard of the official warning they have received and that Croucher is such a fool he provides the evidence for EUkip’s prosecution on a public blog speaks volumes of the callibre of those in EUkip’s leadership and staff.

The sooner EUkip is closed down and such prosecutions as are approppriate are conducted the sooner the party can be handed back to its grass roots honest members to rebuild UKIP in a form fit for a vote.

We all look forward to The BFM’s apology and all but The BFM wish Ruth Shoebridge well with her patriotic efforts.

Regards,
“>Greg L-W.
ANYONE wishing to confirm facts is welcome to contact me.

03 May 2009 08:17

To view the original of this material in full CLICK HERE

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#452* – POLITICAL GOSSIP BLOG CONFIRMS!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 02/05/2009

#452* – POLITICAL GOSSIP BLOG CONFIRMS!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

POLITICAL GOSSIP BLOG CONFIRMS JUNIUS’ & MY OPINION AS DOES Dr. Eric EDMOND IT SEEMS!!

Hi,

It seems that steadily the message is getting out on the internet, increasingly the public are becoming aware of just how corrupt EUkip are.

Sadly I have spoken with journos from 3 Sundays, 2 Broadsheets and numerous red tops – Journallists who I have placed stories with in the past on various subjects. I have provided them with the details of the Police raid on Tony Elwood’s home which seems to have been orchestrated by Derek Clark or someone near to him – the response has been in the main a big yawn.

You will note that even the story of EUkip MEP Tom Wise being charged and apearing at Wrestminster Magistrates Court did little to raise their interest – general consensus is EUkip are just not news worthy and they have clearly dropped below the radar. You will note even their own publicity machine is so busy trying to be ‘clever dicks’ and are so fractured that they are making little impact – yeas I am happy to concede they are getting publicity but that which is not bad is very light weight and near irrelevant.

You will also note that fashionably and learning nothing from the grown up parties EUkip could not resist importing Mill Stones – You will notice Cameron & The Tories brought in Ken Clark which has cost them a huge amount of credibility and a large amount of votes (as their major backer Stuart Wheeler stated when he decamped for a short while to EUkip ‘I can’t vote Tory in the EU elections because of two words Ken Clark’.

Then we note Gordon Brown brought back his own Mill Stone the oleagenous and dishonest Peter Mandelson – this has cost him a huge amount of credibility and vaste numbers of votes.

Clegg in the Lib.Dims. has his own Mill Stone Vince Cable who has so clearly eclipsed him!

Farage not to be outdone has opened a Mill Stone Factory!!!

He has brought in the hugely damaging and discreditted Marta Andreasen who is clearly no more than a Political Prostitute who has tried to stand for almost every British Party and openly admitted she was earning 150K in the EU and wants to get back there!

Then there is the serial failure from the Tories the liar and cheat David Bannerman who so clearly has an identity crisis and has lied about his ancestry to cheat members.

Now consider PoliticalGossipUK Blog who has proved a prescient commentator and critic to date!

Friday, May 1, 2009

Internal War at UKIP and Possible illegal Actions
Well what a day today has been.

We knew that when Mark Croucher admitted that his pubs had failed (no shame in that if it was purely down to our politically mis-managed economic environment) he would be spending more time on UKIP matters. But we had no idea the storm he was going to create and the potential for landing UKIP ‘in the Dock’ again.

Let us explain:

On the British Democracy Forum this morning, Mark Croucher reveals that he ‘set a trap’ in order to reveal the identity of the ‘UKIP Leadership thorn in the side’ Junius. This was based around the sending of ‘false emails’ (for the purposes of entrapment, and unencrypted – more on this later) in the knowledge that a blind copy was allegedly being sent to Piers Merchant (former Tory MP and UKIP MEP – Roger Knapman assistant).

This information was apparantly ‘leaked’ to Junius and Greg Lance Wakins; Mark Croucher has come to the conclusion therefore, that Junius must be Piers Merchant’ and this, to some degree, was supported by NEC member Douglas Denny.

At the same time, Mark Croucher publishes a report from the Information Commissioners Office (under the terms of the DPA), criticising UKIP for its ‘shoddy’ (our words) security over data and insisting on a number of steps UKIP must take or action will be taken against them. One such stipulation was that all sensitive data must be sent encrypted – yet MC admits the emails were despatched – unencrypted – BREACH.

It would also seem from details in his original posting, that they have also mailed their entire database ‘willy nilly’ without encryption subsequent to the serious warning given.

But this next bit is even more interesting.

Mark Croucher admits that he is not employed or paid by UKIP presently (and on previous postings that he is not a member of UKIP). So we ask ‘Why has Mark Croucher been given access to UKIP’s data and computer systems?’ – is this not in breach of the Data Protection Act? – and runs contrary to the recent warning mentioned above?

Now we have to admit, we are not lawyers, and we are not waking our solicitor up at this time for his opinion, as it would cost us around £500, but we think UKIP may have broken the Law here!

Comments would be appreciated.

To view the original article CLICK HERE

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#451* – FAKE EUkip LETTER DOING THE ROUNDS!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 01/05/2009


#451* – FAKE EUkip LETTER DOING THE ROUNDS!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

FAKE EUkip LETTER DOING THE ROUNDS or A EUkip ADMISSION OF THEIR STAGGERING INCOMPETENCE!!

Hi,

it would seem there is a fake ‘e’Mail doing the rounds from little Jonathan Arnott EUkip’s rather sad, young and inexperienced General Secretary (no wonder they can get away with paying him so poorly) and Nigel Farage’s unelected puppet chairman Paul Nuttall who has proved himself incompetent on an almost serial basis.

This fake ‘eMail reads as follows:

PO Box 408
Newton Abbot
DevonTQ12 9BG
Tel 01626 831 290

Dear member,

It is with regret that we write to inform you that our e-mail database has been compromised and passed to anti-UKIP groups outside the party by a former general secretary of the party.

We can only apologise to members should they receive unpleasant or unwanted e-mail during the course of the campaign, and ask that members be aware that our opponents are likely to try and fool members with false information, lies and distortions.The security leak which caused the problem has been dealt with, and the matter is now in the hands of the police.

UKIP’s data is now secure, and we can only apologise to members for any distress or inconvenience which this may cause.

Yours sincerely,
Paul Nuttall (Party Chairman)
Jonathan Arnott (General Secretary)

There is of course an alternative scenario and that is that this letter is in fact genuine and is being sent around to apologise for the utter incompetence of EUkip and their flagrant disregard for confidential data they hold on members.

Interestingly despite the irrefutable FACT that EUkip recently received a serious dressing down and warning from The Data Protection Comissioner, under The Data Protection Act, for their total incompetence and dishonesty in permitting confidential material to be released upon the internet we note that the letter, although redacted (NOT by me) probably to conceal the harsher terms of the warning is readily visible on Anthony Butcher’s Forum thus in breech of The DPA and the warning they have posted Confidential personal material with a view to trying to further denigrate John West!!

One would be hard pressed to invent such criminal stupidity and to think they want people to vote them into positions of Governance!

The other clear implication if this letter IF not a Fake is that in flagrant disregard not only of the law but of the serious warning from the ICO they have seemingly, as Mark Croucher confirms in written form on a public forum, been mailing material around the internet with total disregard for member’s privacy and the law!!

The incompetence beggars belief – they also admit or at least claim that EUkip has inserted various people’s readdress on their servers – before they get too carried away just howmany individuals have access to the server, where is it located and can they in any way substantiate their claim that Junius had access to the server. I note their claim that Piers Merchant was Junius very soon fell apart and the only person not managing to keep up is the Swindon village idiot!

Clearly from the information given by the smug, self congrtatulatory EUkip clowns supporting Croucher’s spoof there is little doubt that they haven’t a clue who Junius is and interestingly even though EUkip may have tried to set up Roger Knapman’s staff perhaps Croucher who although not gainfully employed relative to EUkip and having claimed he is not a member can explain who entered the names on BCC on the server, when and where!

Perhaps Croucher can explain, since it seems he has criminal access to EUkip data and is known to have involvement with etremist political groups including Searchlight and has shown on a serial basis his willingness to lie for money perhaps he will clarify who gave him access to EUkip data and who authorised him to publish it in disregard of the law and the warnings given to EUkip.

Yet again we are shown that although a relatively competent performer as he churns out a series of mantras and sound bites Farage totally lacks any leadership ability or Officer Qualities – just look at the total disaray EUkip is in as its leading lights fight like ferrets in a sack seeking to entrap eachother whilst chanting BNP to give them courage.

Interestingly many will note that I claimed that Farage could surely not be so stupid as to have planned to parachute Croucher into any position of responsibility whether seeking closer ties with The BNP in the North West or as an MEP candidate anywhere.

If there is one thing known about Croucher it is his dishonesty and serial corruption – one only has to study his risible claims of involvement of individuals with The BNP whilst it is he consorting with odious extremist politics and his complete failure to understand the term anti semitism despite his lies that I am anti semetic as with those who try desperately to claim I am supposedly homophobic or bankrupt. Do try to keep up with your own lies.

Of course there are leaks in EUkip – just look at the calibre of its leadership and officers then consider Croucher’s reputation for an inability to keep his mouth shut when there is an opportunity to brag, his wallet closed if there is money in it, his trousers zipped in the presence of any opportunity and his hands to himself if he can garner money to squander on another unwise venture.

Mea Culp I did mention he claimed to several people he had a recording on his mobile phone – not having a mobile phone as I am not at anyone’s beck and call I thought one could nowadays make videos on a mobile. I gather it was a sound recording he openly boasted of.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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