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#458* – PRAISE WHERE IT IS DUE

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/05/2009

#458* – PRAISE WHERE IT IS DUE

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

PRAISE WHERE IT IS DUE – THE EUKIP VERSION IS EXCELLENT

Hi,

To be fair one really must give credit where it is due.

In my opinion in 15 years and having had 12 MEPs elected in 2004 with almost 30,000 members actively campaigning for EUkip; sadly EUkip has been fairly catastrophic, as I predicted a dozen years ago; as a result of Farage having seized control of the leadership and stuffed the upper echelons of the party with placemen and idiots for fear of challenge.

However someone on his staff has dared to produce something worthwhile – albeit a near copy of someone elses earlier parody of the wording.

Well done whoever produced this version of the lampoon – sad that this is EUkip’s greatest achievement!

Beware whoever produced this version as there is a risk your days are numbered Farage fears achievement. To date he has ensured that no one survives to challenge him – just look at the callibre of those he has gathered around him – not a single solitary individual of principle, morality or calibre – the very worst of sychophants, deeply flawed individuals who Farage can control by their weaknesses.

Here is one of the many earlier versions:

However praise where it is due and EUkip’s version is very good – EUkip needs a bit of a lift to its spirits particularly today – the day on which it has been reported that one of their Churchill posters has been Paint Bombed by the anti Fascist League who seem to be confused by EUkip, now that Farage has dragged it back into a centrally controlled, authoritarian right wing extremist party with Kangaroo Courts and absolute power for the leader – sacking democratically elected members, fantasising on TheBNP with fantasies of being under attack and trumped up accusations to dupe the police into mounting an era of fear within the party.

Nigel Farage’s own ‘Reichstag Fire Moment’ – we now have Paul Nuttall & Jonathan Arnott orchestrating a new ‘Crystal Nacht’ warning people of so called fake ‘e’Mails and what they should and shouldn’t read!

Heaven help Britain if EUkip are EVER elected to any meaningfull position of power whilst the undeniably corrupt, duplicitous and dishonest Faragista Fan Club have seized control.

Not withstanding do enjoy the amusing video which EUkip has produced – better than any of the many earlier versions copied, in my opinion.

It is sad that it was felt neccessary that the language should be obscene and it adds little to the rant, however the leadership of EUkip know the type of people they wish to attract and one only has to read the blogs of some of their staff and inner circle, and note the morality of Farage’s leadership, staff and inner circle!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#457* – More On BDF & EUkip DISHONESTY

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/05/2009


#457* – More On BDF & EUkip DISHONESTY

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

More On BDF (formerly UKIPForum) & EUkip DISHONESTY!

http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/talk-about-anything/55095-goodbye-greg.html

I received a warning which I saw during the afternoon – I put the only source I knew, who could confirm the matter, on dial back – they were at work.

I spoke with them as soon as they came in and they rapidly supplied the facts that I clearly could not, without a breech of trust.

ABSOLUTELY NO EFFORT was made to contact me to verify my facts – I doubt whether the full 24 hours were available. ALL the moderators have my phone number and ‘e’Mail and I am not that hard to contact.

Perhaps Brendan Padmore can inform us why he glibly accepted the word of the liar who claimed there was no such claim yet demanded I provide evidence which WAS provided at the earliest possible opportunity, as he knows.

John West said…
Hello. I have been informed that comments have been made by Greg Lance-Watkins on the British Democracy Forum. These comments concern Peter Reeve and have led to Mr Lance-Watkins being banned from the Forum.

In the interests of fairness I can confirm that I have made a complaint to the police about Mr Reeve. However, this is all that I am prepared to say at the present time.

December 9, 2008 6:55 PM

As for the claim Padmore’s comment:
Brendan Padmore is a liar and a cheat and Anthony Butcher also as they conspire to provide a corrupted Forum on which selected individuals are given a platform for abuse and lies, dishonesty and defamation – whilst others are prevented the right of reply.

And what right of reply does he give. NONE.

Also if I am working for EUkip as GLW like to imply(LIE) why haven’t I banned you and Junius?
G.L-W.: well that is rich coming from Brendan Padmore! Consistently he and Anthony Butcher have provided a platform for people to lie, dissemble, mislead, abuse and defame me, even anonymously and with the endorsement of the Forum.

They are absolutely unable to find a single solitary instance where I have deliberately or consequentially lied or set out to mislead ANYONE – ever in my life let alone on their corrupt Forum or any of my Blogs – were they able to identify such a case I would clearly apologise as there is absolutely no value to me in dishonesty.

Brendan Padmore is clearly Dishonest.

BRENDAN PADMORE CLAIMS:
’Also if I am working for EUkip as GLW like to imply(LIE)’

Quite obviously a lie by Brendan Padmore!

As proven if you read:
http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/ukip-general-issues/54409-ukip-preparing-legal-action-against-forum.html

You will find he and Anthony Butcher have acquiesced to the lies and dishonesty of the bullying and completely groundless fantasies of Paul Nuttall Nigel Farage’s unelected placeman as chairman of the debased and dishonest EUkip.

For more information SEE:
CLICK HERE
or
CLICK HERE
or
CLICK HERE
or
CLICK HERE

There are many more factual statements supported by evidence on my Blogs.

It is ASTONISHING the clear death wish of EUkip!

Consider:

Brendan Padmore raises this issue providing an opportunity for all and sundry to revisit the lies and dishonesty of EUkip’s dishonest unelected chairman Paul Nuttall.

Failed publican & drinking parasite of Nigel Farage Mark Croucher posts on behalf of EUkip, confidential material in flagrant disregard of a detailed warning to EUkip from the ICO.

Mark Croucher shows that although not employed in any capacity by EUkip he has gained access to their main servers to make mischief – presumably intercepting ‘e’Mails between Douglas Denny & Jonathan Arnott that found their way into my hands possibly fulfilling the wishes of his associates in the extremist and shady political organisation Searchlight, or in a foolish attempt to pretend I am implicated in some dishonesty.

Mark Croucher has access to the servers and makes it clear that entire data bases are being ‘e’Mailed around the country unencrypted, in flagrant disregard of The Data Protection Act and the OFFICIAL WARNING issued to EUkip, as posted by Mark Croucher in breech of confidence on what was UKIPForum.

In an attempt to embroil me I note that I have recently received 2 separate CDs with what the anonymous senders presumed would be an update to my EUkip membership lists – they were not but thanks all the same! I did a small test on the new discs supplied and interestingly I find the ‘bounce rate’ would indicate about a 10% inaccuracy of information on EUkip’s data base.

I note that further damaging EUkip has been the attempt to gain publicity for the underhand and duplicitous Andrew Smith who legged it at speed when he was Treasurer as he could not answer some 20 basic questions regarding the accounts and in a display of totally unprofessional behaviour failed to complete the accounts, leaving them in such a random mess that his replacement made the astonishing claim at Telford that he had no idea what the accounts were before he took over!!

Many will remember it was Andrew Smith in collusion with David Lott and Nigel Farage who wittingly received in excess of £350,000 unlawfully and failed to correct the situation despite several ‘e’Mails, letters phone conversations and face to face meetings with The Electoral Commission to rectify the problem. Refusal to comply led to EUkip being found Guilty of a criminal act under electoral law. Part of the evidence led was an ‘e’Mail which I supplied (as I gather did a couple of other sources) which showed, to the Court’s satisfaction, malevolent intent to deceive written by Andrew Smith.

It seems foolsish to raise the profile of this utterly disreputable man just before an election – when he and Nigel Farage are the main causes of the probability of surrender and costs of potentially well over £1/2Million of funds by EUkip.

We note that the only person willing to defend Andrew Smith’s behaviour is the discredited liar Mick McGough (another of EUkip’s candidates!).
Michael Zucherman has clearly stated in a letter I have that:
’I mentioned the High Court proceedings brought by The Electoral Commission for forfeiture of £300,000 which could have destroyed the party’. Therefore since this Guilty verdict is now subject to reconsideration of the forfeiture and costs clearly Ma Zucherman as EUkip’s party secretary is clearly aware the party faces financial ruin due to Andrew Smith, David Lott & Nigel Farage – this can be verified and has been by John de Roeke.

EUkip would seem not to have a single solitary credible candidate standing as prospective MEP on June 4th. And seem determined to bring this to public attention.

As ever I am happy to debate these facts with anyone and can obviously substantiate every word.

Perhaps whilst on the subject someone can explain why Nigel Farage sees fit to lie about his actions (participation and collusions) in the matter of criminal charges regarding Tom Wise EUkip MEP and Lindsay Jenkins EUkip researcher and sometime speech writer for Nigel Farage. Why has Nigel Farage blatantly lied on TV & Radio?

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#456* – Brendan PADMORE TRIES TO JUSTIFY DISHONESTY!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/05/2009


#456* – Brendan PADMORE TRIES TO JUSTIFY DISHONESTY!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

Brendan PADMORE TRIES TO JUSTIFY HIS DISHONESTY BACKED BY LIES & SELF SERVING MISREPRESENTATION!!

Hi,

Let us start with an unequivocal statement of fact:

Brendan Padmore is a liar and a cheat and Anthony Butcher also as they conspire to provide a corrupted Forum on which selected individuals are given a platform for abuse and lies, dishonesty and defamation – whilst others are prevented the right of reply.

Anthony Butcher & Brendan Padmore thus show themselves to be without ethics, morality or integrity – cowards beneath contempt.

astonishingly Brendan Padmore, of what was The UKIPForum until it cow towed to bullying and changed name, hidden behind a foolish screen name B.A.Ware (overlooking the full caveat of B.A. Ware of Dishonesty and stupidity, perhaps) Padmore makes the following unsubstantiable statement:

Yesterday, 12:21 PM #52 (permalink)
B.A.Ware
Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 5,863
Party: UKIP

The only thing I will say on the subject is GLW is a serial liar, he has lied about me and Anthony on his blog and he has Lambasted Bob so I really couldn’t care what people say about him.
He is more than happy slagging people off on his blog but cries like a baby when he gets some back.

Some indication of the veracity of his claim is that he can not find a single solitary consequential example to back his dishonest claim.

He even goes so far as to say he is indifferent to honesty or accuracy, truth or integrity!
QUOTE:
I really couldn’t care what people say about him
EXACTLY my complaint!

Let us consider his comment
QUOTE:
He is more than happy slagging people off on his blog
Yes I am all too happy to, as he so quaintly puts it ‘slag people off’, when I can provide factual details as to why I am exposing their dishonesty, corruption or abuse of office. Similarly whenever people seek preferment or reward by dishonesty or distortion of the truth.

YOU may well have read some or all of my Blog – perhaps YOU can find a single item where I justify Brendan Padmore’s dishonest and unpleasant comments.

Padmore continues dishonestly to try to demean me with the comment
QUOTE:
but cries like a baby when he gets some back
Perhaps he can justify this statement in his self serving attempts – perhaps he finds it surprising that I stand my ground and defend myself when I am lied about or dishonestly defamed by the likes of Bob Feel Martinis, Douglas Denny, Paul Nuttall, Mark Croucher, Mick McGough, David Bannerman on the dishonest platform he as a moderator and EUkip Party member and Anthony Butcher of Libertas seem all to willing to provide.

Do note his comment
QUOTE:
I really couldn’t care what people say about him
AND:
I am not interested in the rights or wrongs of Bobs posts I just wouldn’t take any notice of what GLW said

So Brendan Padmore is so dishonourable and dishonest as to grant in written form on a public Forum a license for people to use that Forum to defame and lie about me – he then clamours of his honesty!!

YOU decide!

It was afterall Brendan Padmore who dishonestly banned me from defending myself on the Forum and Butcher, having no moral compass and clearly no ethical values who endorsed the dishonesty and has provided the corrupt platform for lies and defamation – even by those seeking to abuse in anonimity without ONE shred of factual evidence.

I was removed for making a verified statement of FACT, no doubt to comply with the undeniable lies of Paul Nuttall, who was proved to have lied in detail.

The following statements of fact I have made have been selected from some 6-700 blog postings and some numerous 1,000s of postings I have made to try to present a case of consequential dishonesty on my part.

Not ONE comment I have made that he has chosen to quote supports his utterly unfounded and dishonest claims – thus clearly Brendan Padmore has proved himself dishonest and a liar – he has also thus shown that the Forum is deliberately corrupt and dishonest providing a platform for lies, libels and defamation.

Here are the examples he chose!:
(My interjections in text)

Yesterday, 01:12 PM #56 (permalink)
B.A.Ware
Moderator
Clearly willing to abuse his position and clearly in obeissance to the lies served on the Forum by Paul Nuttall, which Anthony Butcher has dishonestly accepted!

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 5,863
Party: UKIP
Party: UKIP why would anyone be surprised!

I am not interested in the rights or wrongs of Bobs posts
Padmore omits the fact that this goes for anyone wishing to defame me or lie about me, misrepresent or abuse – So Padmore clearly confirms his dishonesty!

I just wouldn’t take any notice of what GLW said or did not say
That is abundantly clear facts, truth, provenance and accuracy are not relevant to the dishonest like Padmore

he has proved to me that he is a very unpleasant man.
Frankly considering the source I take that as a compliment – I have no desire to be popular with the corrupt and am happy to be their ‘hate figure’.

Here is some of the rubbish he has posted about me and Anthony.
I stand by every single comment in the context in which it was written and have provided irrefutable facts and evidence to prove the truth – as proven by Brendan Padmore’s complete inability to show a single fact in 6-800 Blogs to be untrue!

Quote:
You will note that absolutely no effort is made by corrupt individuals like Anthony Butcher and Brendan Padmore to cirb the excesses of the liars on their Forum
As shown by the serial repetition of dishonest statements, lies, abuse and defamation without factual substantiation.

Quote:
Here in Green is the posting made recently by Michael McGough, using the laxity and willingness of Butcher & Padmore to provide a platform for misrepresentation
A statement of fact honestly made by me!

Quote:
It rather shows just how easy it is to take quite simple facts and portray them in a manner which becomes a lie – as with the comments of people like Brendan Padmore who is so stupid he doesn’t even know the extent to which he assists the EU. The world is full of useful idiots
A statement of fact proven again and again – you will note that conveniently Brendan Padmore took this out of context – it is probable that I quoted a clear example to show the veracity of my statement. My regular readers and the lawyers who check my blogs show that I base my blogs on fact and in detail avoiding ANY attempt to lie or deliberately mislead or libel – unlike those to whom Anthony Butcher & Brendan Padmore grant a platform for dishonesty.

Quote:
The level of dishonesty is simple misrepresentation by the corrupt – the dishonesty amongst those with personal ambitions in 2000 was not disimilar to the lies and dishonesties of Mark Croucher, Douglas Denny, Brendan Padmore, Anthong Butcher and their ilk today –
In what way does Brendan Padmore try to claim this statement of fact is inaccurate?

Quote:
BUTCHER & PADMORE HAVING DONE THE BIDDING OF EUkip & DENIED ME THE BASIC RIGHT TO ANSWER WHEN CHALLENGED & REFUTE LIES THEY PROVIDE PLATFORMS FOR!
An accurate and substantiated statement of fact – you will note the lies of Paul Nuttall demanding this dishonest action and his lies in his threats to the Forum.

Quote:
Deal direct don’t settle for the dishonesty of Butcher & Padmore
And what is wrong with this statement – it has been proven beyond doubt that Butcher & Padmore are dishonest and support dishonesty.

Quote:
BUTCHER’S CONTEMPTIBLE HYPOCRACY
BALANCED BY BRENDAN PADMORE’S FAILURE
TO EVEN UNDERSTAND HIS OWN CORRUPTION!
As proven repeatedly with evidence.

Quote:
?
Yeah – I’m puzzled as to why Brendan Padmore has set out to make my case for me!!!

Quote:
It is hard to find terms adequate in contempt to describe the like of Butcher and Padmore and those they aid who lack integrity, morality or any concepts of justice – Oh so very EU!
A statement of proven fact.

Quote:
Anthony Butcher YOU & Brendan Padmore dishonestly and deliberately lied
A statement of proven fact.

Quote:
so that Anthony Butcher and Brendan Padmore can use weasel words to justify their cowardice and dishonesty.
A statement of proven fact.

I could go on but the posts above show just how warped and dishonest the man is so I really couldn’t care if he gets a little bit of his own medicine.
Brendan Padmore has I would contend not only shown why I hold him in contempt but provided the proof positive that he is so without morality he doesn’t even understand his lack of ethics or integrity.

Therefore as he has not led one single solitary fact in his defence yet I have provided fact to back my every statement I am obviously correct when I state:

Brendan Padmore is a liar and a cheat and Anthony Butcher also as they conspire to provide a corrupted Forum on which selected individuals are given a platform for abuse and lies, dishonesty and defamation – whilst others are prevented the right of reply.

Anthony Butcher & Brendan Padmore thus show themselves to be without ethics, morality or integrity – cowards beneath contempt.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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