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#455* – BEWARE OF STANDING ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 03/05/2009


#455* – BEWARE OF STANDING ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

BEWARE OF STANDING ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS FOR THEY HOLD A MAGNIFYING GLASS TO YOU FOR COMPARISSON!

Hi,

It is interesting that EUkip are following the very clear lead of trying to piggy back on the Shoulders of Giants with the implication that great figures from our history just migh promote and endorse the behaviour of The odious BNP be it Churchill, or Dowdings brylcream boys – My Father was a decorated Fighter Pilot with an exemplary war fought in Spitfires and it has been my privilege to have met several of the WWII Battle of Britain pilots and also a number of individuals who have earned VCs, DSOs, DFCs, AFCs, MCs etc.

I currently live in the town where many of Archie McKindo’s Guineapigs were treated, in the building where the last Pathfinder death of the war was born.
I also had the privilege of education at the school which produced both Field Marshalls Haig and Birdwood and served in the army including Sandhurst.

I do not believe that a single solitary leader or highly decorated War time combatant would be other than revolted by The BNP and their refusal to denounce their roots or their funding by the White Supremacist Movement in America that will not denounce the ritual killing of some 4-5,000 young men because they were black or coloured!

Further I do not believe any of those great men or the women of equivalent stature would endorse the determination of The Faragista Fan Club to drag the party back into history with centralised authoritarian etreme right wing policies and the palpable exploitation of Black, Asian and Coloured members (Tokenism).


It is dangerous to align with individuals from history as you will note the EUropean Movement, Lib.Dims. and many EUrophiles habitually quote Winston Churchill out of context to mislead the less well read and poorly educated.

I feel Churchill’s attitude to such deceit would have been VERY clear:

Mindwed that Winston Spencer Churchill was born in 1874 and died in 1965 you will not be surprised that as an Anglo American he held a diversity of views over some 80+ years in the public eye.

You will note one of his early books when serving our Country and putting his life at risk in a dispute/war that goes on to this day and cost China Gordon both his career and his life, the Government papers of the time are still under an extended 100 year embargo!)

Having returned to Britain the young Winston wrote of his experiences and in 1899 the first edition of ‘The River Wars’ was published.

Reprehensibly the revolting Nick Griffin of The BNP saw fit to publish in an open ‘e’Mail to me in one of my vigerous arguments to expose The BNP and its revolting base and total misrepresentations of truth by clever misrepresentation by including half truth in much the way that Hitler, the NSDAP, Searchlight, Mark Croucher, The EUrophiles, and others seeking to sell lies and dishonest scams, policies and products.

Amusingly the copy of the text the odious Griffin used would seem to have been copied from a version I loaded to the internet from my First Edition of this magnificent account when seen in the context of time.

That I so comprehensively and publicly trashed the lies of Griffin led first to him trying to claim that he could not be held responsible just as the Tories had promoted slavery! Clearly he had not realised whom William Wilberforce had supported nor which party had ordered The Royal Navy to seize The Blackbirds and free the cargo. Nor it seems had he much knowledge of the slavers of Barbary and the origins of Morris Dancing and its connections with Barbary slavers in Cornwall & South Wales.

Griffin quit and ran from the ‘e’Mail drubbing and I am given to understand he admonished his senior members to avoid engagement with me!

The danger of misleading quotes based on false or dishonest interpretation is clear:
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries.

Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.

The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science‹the science against which it had vainly struggled‹the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”

Of being fundamentally dishonest and seeking to mislead here are some other heros of our Nation who would have undeniably rejected The BNP and its sordid roots which it refuses to denounce – or for that matter the BNP style behaviour of The Faragista Fan Club.

A dozen years ago I openly stated that Farage was the greatest assett UKIP had but that he ever became leader he waould destroy UKIP as he is too weak, too self indulgent, too light weight and lacks the qualities of leadership or any discernible Officer Qualities – an excellent interviewee, sound bite preasenter and presenter of about 4 speeches.

That does not for one moment constitute a leader and results in sychophants and praise singers who will do anything to perpetuate their own position.

If EUkip and The BNP wish to perpetuate their piggy backing dishonestly on the shoulders of giants here are a few more Great Heros who would have totally rejected them and their practices, they were men of honour and courage. To pretend to the support of the great and stand on the shoulders of giants grants people the absolute right to compare:


TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#454* – WILL EUkip MEP END CAREER IN PRISON?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 03/05/2009


#454* – WILL EUkip MEP END CAREER IN PRISON?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

WILL EUkip MEP Derek CLARK
END His CAREER IN PRISON?!
Hi,

I can confirm, as a result of personal experience and conversation with Tony Elwood (who I first met about 10 years ago) and others, virtually every word Junius has opted to publish, which I have posted below:

More on Derek Clark MEP and Tony Ellwood

I have heard from several ex-UKIPPERS and several current members since I first revealed that the police had arrested Tony Ellwood, Derek Clark’s former researcher. See: LINK

These nasty events are attracting a lot of anger with many pointing the finger of blame at Derek Clark’s office.

It does appear that the ‘Crimestoppers’ charity has been brought into considerable disrepute by a person, or persons in UKIP in order to intimidate Tony Ellwood.

Wasting Police Time is regarded as a very serious crime and carries a maximum penalty of six month’s imprisonment and/or a fine.

The police went to considerable cost to obtain a warrant for the arrest of Ellwood, plan a raid of involving 8 officers and then search the premises until 2pm. Those costs now require paying for.

During the next 10 days it will hopefully emerge from a Nottingham police enquiry who exactly made the very knowledgeable call to Crimestoppers with sufficient correct information to cause the raid.

It appears that there are only 5 people who knew of certain precise information about Tony Ellwood. And it was this precise information that was passed on to Crimestoppers.

Two are Nottingham UKIP volunteer members Ken Browne, and Alan Margeson. Neither are believed to be involved.

The others are Derek Clark MEP, Irena Marriott, Clark’s office manager and Don Ransome, Clark’s Regional Organiser.

All I can say is that it is rather strange that a member of Clark’s paid staff told Tony Ellwood that he would be shortly arrested. How did this person know unless they were fully aware of the call to Crimestoppers?

The 6 month potential jail sentence is straightforward as the people who caused the script to be written and made the call can be identified and exposed. Compensation may be sought by the criminal justice system and as members of the Regional Committee are ‘jointly and severally liable’ I expect that there are now certain UKIPPERS suffering a few sleepless nights!

Happily, there are a few wealthy members on the East Midlands Committee. John Dilkes has homes in Britain and Australia and flies between the two. Peter Baker, a businessman of some repute, may both cover any fines with additional compensation imposed upon the region.

Peter Baker , who you may recall, had a nasty fall out with Derek Clark which resulted in Clark using UKIP’s disciplinary process to rid himself of Baker. So that’s where Jeffrey Titford got the idea from! See: LINK

Clark failed in his attempt to remove Baker from the party and much bad blood was created.

The OLAF investigation into allegations that Clark misused his EU allowance is certainly gathering momentum with the likelihood that Nottingham Police will be asked to launch a full investigation into Clark’s financial activities.

Derek Clark OLAF Case Number: D/007/033/04.09.08
Derek Clark OLAF Investigation Number: DD/FD-D2008.A1/7133/OF/2008/0240

Is Derek Clark – a man accused of fraud – the sort of person you want representing Great Britain for another five years?

To view the original of this article CLICK HERE

You can find out much more if you CLICK HERE or CLICK HERE

Based on probabilities and personal experience it will come as absolutely no surprise to me that Derek Clark could act in so sordid a manner as to sneakily make the call himself or arrange for anonimity of such an underhand man – he is a man who has been proven dishonourable.

If like Tom Wise EUkip MEP the evidence is sufficient I would hope the matter would be dealt with in an exemplary way and both costs and a custodial sentence would be appropriate for such behaviour for an individual in his position.

I do not for a moment state that Derek Clark EUkip MEP is guilty of any offence however based upon his dishonesty in other matters, his betrayal of his local supporters, his witch hunts against loyal UKIP members, his betrayal of these United Kingdoms in collusion with Nigel Farage in advocating greater subsidiarity of these United Kingdoms to the odious and undemocratic EU which seemingly in its corruption, dishonesty and louche life style for its grossly over paid gofers such as Clark – clearly suited his temprament and self seeking self importance.

Since it has been Derek Clark EUkip MEP’s behaviour, track record and lack of honour that leads to a reasonable belief he is embroilled in this vile action against Tony Elwood I make absolutely no apology should it transpire not to involve him or any of his staff or supporters.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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