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Archive for May 6th, 2009

#461* – Dr. EDMOND on EUkip, CROUCHER & DISHONESTY

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/05/2009

#461* – Dr. EDMOND on EUkip, CROUCHER & DISHONESTY

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

Dr. Eric EDMOND on EUkip, Mark CROUCHER & THEIR DISHONESTY!

Hi,

Dr. Eric Edmond was elected by the membership of EUkip based on his financial, mathematic, economic and management/business experience – a man of unimpeachable integrity whatever you may personally think of him as a person. When all is said and done THE MEMBERS chose him to represent them in a free and relatively fair election – which is a darned site more than can be said for:
Nigel Farage
Paul Nuttall
Jonathan Arnott
Mark Croucher
Clive Page
Damian Wilson
David Bannerman
Andrew Smith
Stuart Agnew
Marta Anreassen
Gawain Towler
Derek Clark
and many more.

Interestingly The Faragista Fan Club used every trick in the book including lies, unelected placemen, bullying and pure dishonest duplicity to to remove Dr. Eric Edmond who had been asking probing questions about the financing of EUkip and liabilities of members as an NEC member (ELECTED – Unlike many with a vote on Farage’s corrupt NEC) acting on behalf of the few remaining honest members!

Wednesday, 6 May 2009
Why is Croucher attacking Piers Merchant

On the Democracy Forum, Mark Croucher is again trying to smear Piers Merchant with his juvenile attempts at entrapment. It seems Croucher and his friends concocted a spoof email, contents unknown, that was supposedly sent to little Arnott at some undisclosed date and time relating to a coming North West poster campaign targetted against the BNP.

Spoof emails are a standard Croucher ploy which Bannerman tried to copy when I was on the NEC to entrap David Abbott. It was and is transparent. Bannerman had to retreat and claim he was conducting some sort of unspecified, unauthorised security check that seems to give him the right to set traps for people he works with. Not surprising as it was Farage’s ploy as well with Martin Haslam and the Independent jounalist. Farage’s UKIP specialises in entrapment but they don’t do it very well!

Junius on 1st May wrote in his blog that, “It is said that Croucher is to be the brains – and I use this word very loosely – behind UKIP’s anti-BNP campaign in the North West.” This single statement in Crouchers dubious logic makes Piers the source of Junius’s information. Note Croucher does not give the content of his spoof email or its date or its time so we have no way of making even the most basic checks on the veracity of Croucher’s claims!

It was common knowledge that Nuttall and his chums including Croucher, worried about the BNP for the good reasons Junius gives below, were trying to concoct some campaign to use against the BNP. All I can say is Nuttall better have something to counter the BNP in Lancashire or he will be signing on soon at Bootle Job Centre!

So by Croucher’s perverse logic what was common knowledge was proof of a leak!

Much more important is what lies behind Croucher trying to smear a UKIP stalwart who masterminded the election success of 2004. A man with more political ability in his little finger than Croucher has in his whole body. Never mind that Piers is very ill just at present, the sick get no quarter from Croucher it seems. Sorry Croucher it won’t stand up. You have taken your pitcher to often to the spoof email well as it says in the Bible.

The reason behind this unwarranted attack on Piers is I think Farage is preparing for a possible UKIP meltdown on 4th June 2004 when UKIP could end up with 3 MEPs or less. Someone will have to take the blame for this. Obviously it cannot be the great leader so what better than some suitable ‘traitor’ to be cast in advance as a spy in league with the arch enemy the BNP. This would conveniently explain a UKIP failure and a BNP success. What you might call a lose – lose scenario.

Junius post of 1st May at 3:08 pm

Mark Croucher now working for UKIP?
——————————————————————————–
My various sources have told me that Mark Croucher is now working for UKIP in a paid capacity.

This follows the demise of his latest business venture which he blames on the recession. For more on this see GLW’s blog.

Some have rather unkindly said that Croucher’s previous business failures would suggest that blaming the current recession for the closure of his pub is rather convenient!

It is said that Croucher is to be the brains – and I use this word very loosely – behind UKIP’s anti-BNP campaign in the North West.

This has been done at the behest of Nuttall who is very worried that the BNP will end his dreams of getting his snout in the trough.

Nuttall also sees himself as UKIP’s future leader – don’t tell Bannerman – and is confident that becoming an MEP will boost his chances of taking over from Farage in June.

Opinion polls suggest that the BNP will win an MEP seat in the North West. This will clearly be at the expense of UKIP.

Oh Dear!

Nuttall colludes with Farage to remove Gregg Beaman as lead UKIP MEP candidate in the North West.

He then has to face the humiliation of watching the BNP steal his coveted prize!

Poetic justice!

Croucher post 1/5/09 at9:34 pm:

‘Junius’ makes further mistake
——————————–
In another thread posted here, ‘Junius’ accuses me of being the ‘brains’ behind UKIPs anti-BNP campaign in the North West.

The reason ‘Junius’ knows this is because Piers received a series of e-mails relating to the launch of a poster campaign. The e-mails covered the design, timing, regional spread and other associated details relating to the campaign, including launch media.

The e-mails involved myself, Paul Nuttall, Jonathan Arnott, Clive Page and Damian Wilson. Jonathans, of course, were copied to Piers.

All of those involved, with the exception of Piers, knew that no such campaign was actually planned, and it was merely a ruse to see whether ‘Junius’ would mention an anti-BNP campaign before it was launched – such a mention would, of course, damage the campaign and forewarn the BNP. It would also indicate that Piers was prepared to pass on information which would be strategically damaging to UKIP.

Unfortunately, they have spun this information in the wrong direction. In attempting to suggest that I am on UKIPs payroll, they have instead once again proved that they will leak potentially damaging information regardless of the consequences, both for UKIP and for our nation.

You can really be proud of yourself, Piers and/or Junius.

Rgds

M

Posted by Eric Edmond at 05:34

Greg L-W. said…
Hi,

your readers may well be interested in even more factual data, links, provenance and eviceration of the posturing of the clearly untrustworthy Faragista Fan Club and the various discrreditted individuals surrounding Mark Croucher, who we know to be a serial failure, liar and cheat.

You may recall Croucher, who is an American citizen with dual nationality, yet who having blamed an early series of personal failures on Margaret Thatcher now HATES the Tories! He was I gather a Labour Party member and has in the past boasted of connections with extreme and clandestine political groups which include Searchlight!

Then colluding in his childish scam he has gained access to EUkip’s data it seems and in breech of The DPA has made public confidential material including a very serious OFFICIAL WARNING to EUkip from the DPA – he compounds this folly by publishing the fact that he has colluded with other who ARE in EUkip to tamper with ‘e’Mails (similar to the involvement of Jeffrey Titford & Gulleford’s hacking into and downloading the private ‘e’Mails of Petrina Holdsworth when she was Chairman and those of Geoffrey Kingscott!).

You will note that Croucher, who has shown there is no gutter in which he feels out of place if paid, has alligned himself with a convicted benefit fraudster who runs EUkip’s press office, Farage’s unelected puppet chairman Nuttall, who has been conclusively proven to be a liar, a bully and a cheat and others of no clear merit to engage in a morally reprihensible and utterly farcical attempt at entrapment which has ended up proving nothing save Crtoucher and his cronies are corrupt.

We note Croucher declared on a public Forum that in flagrant disregard of The Data Protection Act and the serious warning EUkip has received, EUkip has been ‘e’Mailing around unencrypted versions of their entire data base – I have in the last ‘recent’ period received 2 separate CDs containing EUkip’s entire eMail member data base (by the way it is about 10% out of date!).

As with all the many earlier data bases I have been provided with – please be assured of a couple of points:

1. I have been supplied with them by people who know they can trust me to act in U.K.I.P.’s and Britain’s best interests as a patriot.

2. that I am totally dedicated to leaving the EU.

3. that I am a dedicated supporter of the ‘PRINCIPLES & VALUES’ of U.K.I.P.

4. that I have stated for over a dozen years that Farage would be a catastrophy as a leader and he could count on my implacable opposition if he ever became leader.

5. that as in the past I will only use the POLITICAL LIST/DATA for political purposes.

6. that I refuse to become embroilled in anything that, even in the wildest dreams of imbecilles like Denny, could be considered dishonest or criminal.

I note from Political Gossip Blog:
http://PoliticalGossipUK.Blogspot.com early today that EUkip are looking for someone to make their computer systems more reliable – proof against tampering with by known liars like Croucher, Nuttall and others who give as much regard to the Data Protection Act as cheats like Andrew Smith, Nigel Farage, David Lott, John Wittacker and others give to electoral law!
Hence their guilty verdict when prosecuted on behalf of The Electoral Commission.

EUkip in its present leaderless, rudderless state is clearly unfit for ANY vote to public office, clearly having been hijacked as a self enrichment scam by a bunch of low lifes.

I believe we ALL owe Junius, who can be read at:
http://juniusonukip.blogspot.com/ our thanks for making many facts known to warn people not to vote for dishonesty, corruption and evil.

There are those who claim, without detailed understanding, that a vote for EUkip is the lesser of two evils – they overlook the irrefutable fact that they are upholding and supporting Evil.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
MORE FACTUAL DATA CAN BE FOUND with links and provenance at:
http://CaterpillarsAndButterflies.Blogspot.com
or phone me.
My detailed contacts can be found at:
http://GregLanceWatkins.Blogspot.com CLICK HERE

06 May 2009 08:20

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#460* – EUkip WOULD HAVE MADE CHURCHILL VOMIT

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/05/2009


#460* – EUkip WOULD HAVE MADE CHURCHILL VOMIT

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

EUkip, CROUCHER & ‘THE FARAGISTA FAN CLUB’ WOULD HAVE MADE CHURCHILL VOMIT!

Hi,

I bring to you some factual data from Junius where his Blog provides a steady stream of accurate information about EUkip:

Tuesday, 5 May 2009
Mark Croucher: UKIP’s resident legal spokesman

It appears that Mark Croucher – failed publican and serial liar – has been appointed UKIP’s unofficial spokesman on legal matters.

On the British Democracy Forum he has been trying desperately to promote the idea that various data protection complaints against UKIP have been rejected by the Information Commissioners Office.

Croucher, for reasons only known to himself, has neglected to give examples of how UKIP’s leadership has failed in it’s attempts to take legal action against various past and present UKIPPERS or supporters.

In the interests of fairness – and to save Croucher any further embarrassment – here are some of UKIP‘s most recent legal blunders:

Douglas Denny’s versus Greg Lance-Watkins. Complaint made to Police.

Complaint concerned Greg Lance-Watkinss publication of email correspondence between Douglas Denny and Jonathan Arnott. Denny claimed this was a criminal breach of the Data Protection Act.

Complaint rejected by the Police. No further action.

(G.L-W. > It should be noted that Douglas Denny & Mark Croucher dishonestly claim this is untrue – be advised it is true.
However despite Douglas Denny’s now published ‘e’Mail admitting the police will take no further action he has now duplicitously decided to invent a new fantasy to waste police time and harass me, based on the nonsense Croucher has been claiming.)

UKIP versus Roger Knapman MEP, Piers Merchant, Sir Richard Body QC, Dr Eric Edmond, Dr David Abbott, Del Young, Prof. Tim Congdon, Bruce Lawson and Martin Haslam. Complaint made by Paul Nuttall to New Scotand Yard.

Complaint concerned a letter that had been sent to various UKIP members. In this letter they were asked to vote against the proposed changes to UKIP’s constitution. UKIP’s leadership alleged that the party database had been used unlawfully. Nuttall claimed this was a criminal breach of the Data Protection Act.

Complaint rejected by the Police following interview with Roger Knapman. No further action.

Originally the odious Nuttall had gone to New Scotland Yard and demanded to speak to the ‘political unit’. Nuttall was rather embarrassed to be told that it did not exist!

Which brings me to ……

David Bannerman versus John West and various unnamed persons.

Complaint concerned John West’s alleged harassment, defamation and abuse of David Bannerman and other NEC members. Complaint also concerned ‘all those that have been engaged in these vile, selfish and disloyal attacks on the party’.

Last year David Bannerman sent John West the following email:

Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:52:34 +0000
From: dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: David Bannerman email
To: shawforddavid@hotmail.com;
alanbown@btinternet.com;
cgill36@hotmail.co.uk;
davidfabbott@btinternet.com;
del1young@yahoo.co.uk;
derekrclark@hotmail.co.uk;
douglas.denny@btopenworld.com;
eric_edmond@hotmail.com;
eric.edmond@tiscali.co.uk;
ukipse@ukip.org;
jill_seymour@btopenworld.com;
lisa.duffy2@tesco.net;
martaandreasen@auna.com;
mazuckerman@bensonmazure.co.uk;
ukipbootle@yahoo.co.uk;
rjoxley@lineone.net;
susan@keymerhaslam.co.uk;
johnwest81@hotmail.com

Dear Mr West,

Thank you. I believe you are referring to the confidential document supplied to NEC members only concerning a disciplinary submission against Dr Edmond ? Others have reported this document being shown around, and who by. As a breach of confidentiality can result in instant dismissal from the NEC under the Constitution, I am most grateful to you for your personal confirmation of this breach.

You are well aware of the libellous remarks you made against me, and which you have refused to apologise for ( your statement reproduced below, which was followed by other libellous remarks ). I have never claimed that you reported me to the police, though I understand you made a complaint against Stuart Gulleford and Jeffrey Titford to the Essex Police, which they have found to have no basis whatsoever. This is also referred to in your statement reproduced below.

Your constant harassment of NEC members and other party members, including myself with entirely false accusations of dishonesty, corruption and fraud, and on an almost daily basis, is totally unacceptable.

I therefore inform you that I am taking this matter directly to the Metropolitan Police´s political unit in an appointment next week, on grounds of criminal defamation and abuse, serious offences punishable under the Harassment Act 1997.

I will be asking the police at that meeting to investigate all those that have been engaged in these vile, selfish and disloyal attacks on the party. This a time when we should be preparing for essential elections next year, not being diverted by self-serving rants, and you have to question the motive. You yourself are ( currently ) a UKIP PPC and yet you regard it as acceptable to go to the Secretary General of the European Parliament to protest at my legitimate UKIP activities.

I have your e mail and this is also being supplied to the police.
I confirm I will be providing the police too with copies of all your other e mails, and with all the relevant e mails of Gregg Lance Watkins ( or is it Lance-Watkins or just Watkins ? ), amongst others. The police also have the power to require webhosts to reveal the e mail identity of contributors to such websites.

Yours Sincerely,

David Campbell Bannerman

Taken from GLW’s blog:

Bannerman went along to New Scotland Yard and demanded to speak to the ‘political unit’. He was told it did not exist – if only he had bothered to tell Nuttall!

Complaint rejected by Police. No further action.

Posted by Junius at 17:56

Hi,

I was interested in a completely misleading comment posted on Anthony Butcher’s Forum, where he seemingly has made a corrupt and dishonest ‘deal’ with the liars who run EUkip such as Paul Nuttall Nigel Farage’s unelected placeman who chairs EUkip.

I take the liberty of addressing it in sections:

Posted by Mark Croucher:
The reason ‘Junius‘ knows this is because Piers received a series of e-mails relating to the launch of a poster campaign.

I can attest that this is complete bunkum, as I am aware of the sources ‘Junius‘ accessed to give the news – you will note that I cautioned that the info. was bunkum as clearly EUkip would not be competent to organise such an event in a competent manner.

I also stated I believed the info. to be a spoof BEFORE Junius published.

Posted by Mark Croucher:
The e-mails covered the design

Which Junius did NOT publish, despite deciding to go along with the spoof as it was so widely discussed in clandestine tones amongst several senior members and also in Brussels we understood.

Posted by Mark Croucher:
timing

In the knowledge of THE ANNOUNCED timings of launches ‘good guess’ was Junius right?

Posted by Mark Croucher:
regional spread and other associated details relating to the campaign, including launch media.

Yes ‘loose’ details relatively openly discussed.

Posted by Mark Croucher:
The e-mails involved myself, Paul Nuttall, Jonathan Arnott, Clive Page and Damian Wilson.

So that is at least 3 proven liars who have shown they can not be trusted – how very impressive!

Posted by Mark Croucher:
Jonathans, of course, were copied to Piers.

& who else? Perhaps Croucher can also invent a partially plausible fantasy to delude people that he can prove Merchant received the matter – then that he passed it on in ANY unauthorised or unlawfull way to ANYONE.

Posted by Mark Croucher:
All of those involved, with the exception of Piers, knew that no such campaign was actually planned,

Untrue when I heard of it I was morally convinced it was a childish spoof and openly said so.

Posted by Mark Croucher:
and it was merely a ruse to see whether ‘Junius’ would mention an anti-BNP campaign before it was launched

What twaddle and what would that have proved?

Perhaps even as an American citizen colluding with extremist clandestine political organisations like Searchlight Croucher could be expected to be aware that ‘entrapment’ is morally reprehensible, unsound evidence and unacceptable under law in almost all instances and civilised Countries.

Posted by Mark Croucher:
such a mention would, of course, damage the campaign and forewarn the BNP.

How could that be likely as the details of the campaign under discussion were not being clearly defined by either Junius or his sources known to me.

Posted by Mark Croucher:
It would also indicate that Piers was prepared to pass on information which would be strategically damaging to UKIP.

It really is despicable when 3 or more proven liars conspire together to defame a man without a single shred of evidence, by use of the morally reprehensible practice of ‘entrapment’.

This sort of dishonest behaviour that has so damaged UKIP over recent years – often with some of the most distastefull individuals at the heart of the scheming.

Just as Croucher bases his ENTIRE argument on supposition and unconvincing claims even goes so far as to use the statement that

It would also indicate INDEED ie it fails to PROVE.

It could equally clearly ‘indicate’ that Croucher, who would seem to be an habitual liar and serial business failure and failure in life, has a reputation for bragadoccio and an inability to keep his mouth shut, his zip shut and his wallet shut until empty – thus clearly this indicates Croucher may well have leaked the information himself.

That his partners in this childish plot included proven liars rendered it an utterly implausible story and plane rubbish.

It is also clear that these dishonest individuals may well have consorted to fabricate information in an attempt to try to dishonestly damage those they saw as exposing the truth about EUkip that could keep them from the crumbs falling from their masters at the troughs on the Gravy Train!

Just as it is probable that Croucher may have colluded with others to supply me with ‘e’Mails and data bases to try to imply I have in some way acted dishonourably in exposing the corruption, lies and dishonesty of EUkip and The Faragista Fan Club – we do know Douglas Denny is a dishonest and corrupt individual also such that even the NEC of EUkip at one stage fired him from a position of trust as a result of his dishonesty and corruption.

It is my belief that with Croucher leading there is not a single solitary individual Croucher names, with whom he colluded who do not owe Piers Merchant, Junius and I an unequivocall apology accompanied by their resignation from EUkip for having brought the party into disrepute with their fantasies and lies.

We note despite the admission that EUkip’s systems leak like a sieve there is still the idiocy of trying to pretend the facts Junius and I publish are in some way ‘untrue’.

That Croucher, clearly with the collusion of Nuttall and Arnott, Page and Wilson it seems, has seen fit to publish the proof that The ICO HAS acted, on behalf of John West, under the terms of The DPA despite his lies and implications to the contrary.

The letter, heavily redacted to suit EUkip, has shown EUkip has been most vigerously cautioned and officially warned – It is clear that Croucher has had access to EUkip confidential data in flagrant disregard of the warning – further Croucher advises that subsequent to the official warning EUkip in complete contempt of the warning has been ‘e’Mailing EUkip data bases and material covered by the DPA in gay abandon without encryption!

In terms of the ICO chucking the book at EUkip it starts to look as if they will require a substantial library to provide enough books.

Astonishingly these low lifes and liars have as little regard for The Data Protection Act as had Andrew Smith, Nigel Farage, David Lott, John Wittacker and others had for the Electoral Commission and Electoral Law – leading to a Guilty Verdict in the Courts and the very real prospect of bankrupting the party to quote Ma Zucherman!

It is increasingly clear that EUkip and its entire leadership team and direct staff and supporters are unfit for election to ANY public office.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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