Ukip-vs-EUkip

We aim to inform YOU & provide an archive re: Ukip to TRY to make it fit for purpose

  • GOOGLE TRANSLATE

  • Follow me on Twitter

  • TWITTER N.I.Bs.

  • PAGES:

  • Just Say NO to EU

    TO VIEW: Just CLICK The Picture

  • FleXit A WAY FORWARD

    TO VIEW: Just CLICK The Picture

  • HoC – EU Exit Plan

    TO VIEW: Just CLICK The Picture

  • EU_Referendum.com

    TO VIEW: Just CLICK The Picture

  • JUNIUS On UKIP

    JUNIUS is a Blog authored by informed individual in The EU 'Team UKIP'; Supporters of UKIP over many years who seek to expose corruption & make UKIP genuinely elec table for the informed!

    TO VIEW: Just CLICK The Picture

  • REFERENDUM & How To Win!

    TO VIEW: Just CLICK The Picture

  • Greg LANCE-WATKINS Greg_L-W@BTconnect.com

  • Contact YOUR Political Servants

    Contact Your Politician
    writetothem.com
  • GLOBAL WARMING, Heaven and Earth

    PLIMER, Proff. Ian

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • January 2010
    M T W T F S S
     123
    45678910
    11121314151617
    18192021222324
    25262728293031
  • Flying Spaghetti Monster

    TO VIEW: Just CLICK The Picture

  • The EU In A Nutshell

    ROTHERHAM, Dr. Lee & STARKEY, Dr. David

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • The EUropean PARLIAMENT

    CORBETT, Richard; JACOBS, Francis & SHACKLETON, Michael

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • The European Union

    BOMBERG, Elizabeth; CORBETT, Richard & PETERSON, John

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • GLOBAL WARMING, The Real Disaster

    BOOKER, Christopher

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • The GREAT DECEPTION

    NORTH, Dr. Richard & BOOKER, Christopher

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • The MANY NOT THE FEW

    Dr. Richard NORTH

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • MINISTRY of DEFEAT

    NORTH, Dr. Richard

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • The RIGHTS of ENGLISHMEN

    YOUNG, William - 1793

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • The ROTTEN HEART of EUROPE

    CONNOLLY, Bernard

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • SCARED to DEATH

    BOOKER, Christopher & NORTH, Dr. Richard

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • Ten Years on

    ROTHERHAM, Dr. Lee

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • VIGILANCE

    MOTE, Ashley (MEP rtd.)

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • Voodoo Histories

    AARONOVITCH, David

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

  • WATERMELONS

    DELINGPOLE, James

    TO VIEW: Just Click The Picture

Archive for January, 2010

#827* – Despite The PHONY EUkip Leadership Claque!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 25/01/2010

#827* – Despite The PHONY EUkip Leadership Claque!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Despite The PHONY EUkip Leadership Claque!!

Hi,

I believe if you have any knowledge of EUkip over the years this will strike a chord with you.

Read the letter, consider it and come back later when there will be more related information 😉

Grassroots Public Education campaigning (despite the phony UKIP leadership)

Hello UKIP Activists, and Anyone still interested at this late date in trying to save British Independence and Democracy from an EU police state,

Years ago it was plain that the UKIP leadership and the UKIP activists were opponents, although the trusting nature of the activists obscured the fact.

Years ago it was plain that the UKIP leadership was self-serving and secretly colluding with pro-EU forces.

Years ago it was evident that the political system was bought-and-paid-for by the corporate cartels that dominate both the EU and Britain.

Years ago it was plain that the British people didn’t like what was happening but were fundamentally ignorant about the EU and their own political system, hence politically passive.

Years ago a newspaper journalist interviewed British university students who generally admitted that they could sense that the EU was an evil force, but admitted to factual ignorance about its character,.and so took no action of any kind.

{One may deduce from the last two statements how much POTENTIAL there has always been to mobilize the populace to save Britain !!}

Years ago it was plain that the only way to save British Independence and Democracy from a corporate-cartel-driven EU police state, was to EDUCATE & POLITICALLY ACTIVATE the BRITISH PEOPLE on this vital subject. And to do it via grassroots public education techniques — leaflets and talk, getting especially to UNIVERSITY STUDENTS [no rescue mission can succeed without university students], going DOOR-to-DOOR [behind those doors sits the General Public, a prey to television propaganda if you don’t get to them there] and TELEPHONING.

Years ago it was plain that the UKIP leadership was determined to stop its activists from waging public education campaigns that would effectively educate and activate the British people.
Their real song has typically been: Every so many years just vote some of us into office so we can play the bigshot in Brussels and have a share of the spoils that the EU treats us to there.

And years ago it was obvious that UKIP activists, although well-meaning, were lacking in initiative and basically gutless to do anything unauthorised by the UKIP leadership.

Well, activists, are you still the same? Or does the EU Iron Heel appear imminent enough for you to finally wage that grassroots public education campaign to educate and politically activate the General Public — in spite of the UKIP leadership?

If you truly wish to know precisely how to go about it, then gather a few of your ranks together and write me. I’ll spell out the same things to you that I
did to the UKIP leadership and individual activists five years ago. 5 lost years!! And send over a MODEL LEAFLET that doesn’t mince words and has, I think, a pretty good graphic

Mike Stagman

P.S. But don’t write if you’re not serious.

CALL BACK LATER for more!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

Posted in UKIP | Leave a Comment »

TECHIE PROBLEMS!!! c10:30 – 21-JAN-2010 to date!!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/01/2010

Hi,

sorry if you have been inconvenienced in any way – at about 10:30hrs on Thursday during a phone call my line vanished – I tried the internet and my high speed broadband vanished also!!

My thanks to various friends who have let me use their phones – I have pressed so many numbers on key pads and held for periods of 30 & 40 minutes listening to recordings of people claiming to be busy – (I’m not of course I am merely the client!).

Har they run a linguaphone tape instead of a confession that they are utterly inefficient and do not have edequate staff I could have learned Hindi whilst I waited for call centres!

Finally with due inefficiency I was allocated a ‘slot’ for a technician to come and fix it with the warning that if it was my kit at fault it would cost £127 + vat for the call out – eventually at 13:20hrs. on Saturday a chappie with a huge van & two ladders turned up (how does one guy climb 2 ladders?) less than an hour later still unable to identify the cause of the problem he wired in the other line in the cable (had he doen thet in the first placeit would have taken 5 minutes) woopie – dialing tone.

Good luck – Oh broadband, well that can take upto 15 minutes to resume. OK off he goes.

I made 3 phone calls and the line died!!!

I’ve kicked everything and 2.1/2 hours on a friend’s phone later it is working but as they had no idea why it vanished before I have little confidence of it continuing to function!

I thought I would place this message whilst I can to inform those who have tried to contact me with information why all they could get was engaged tone – to thank the unknown warrior who tracked down Lesley to check and see if Lee and I were OK, thank you and I gather someone phoned, Nikki, Dawn, Maxine, Nadine, and others I expect!!

I have a number of Blogs to read and make sure messages reached them so that they could publish ‘snippets’ I received whilst off line. Then 100s of ‘e’Mails to read then start going once I’ve caught up a bit.

I gather EUkip’s problems are increasing and even Douglas Denny has been making a case for EUthenasia to have him put out of his misery – he gives a long list of countries he would rather be in but having been to or lived in most of them I think he can thank his lucky stars he never managed to get there as he would have failed even earlier in life.

Being off line I have fallen somewhat behind in that I have agreat deal more information to add regarding The EFD-EU which you can catch up with as I add it at CLICK HERE

I’ve got some more to add to the factual blog about Douglas Denny showing his clear dishonesty and damage and corruption of EUkip, at the moment regarding his collusion in the cover-up of Tom Wise’s criminality and his deliberate obfuscation, blocking procedure and refusal to try to clean up EUkip by holding a disciplinary hearing for Wise to either clear his name and bring a legal case against The Sunday Telegraph or be proven guilty and suspended whilst EUkip assisted the Police. For more details of Douglas Denny‘s damaging corruption and dishonesty CLICK HERE

I also have a copy of a catalogue of errors in EUkip written by an obvious insider. Unfortunately there is nothing new and it rather undermines itself by the fact that the authors lack the integrity and moral conviction to put their name to their summary – though I do hear that although it is a little harsh on him (rightly so for his dishonourable behaviour re Sinclaire & Islam) Lord Pearson Farage’s puppet leader put in place, we understand, on Stuart Wheeler’s insistance as with Farage with his sticky fingers near the pot was not to be bailed out for his crass stupidity and childish dishonesty that has left the party with a Guilty verdict in the Courts and a £3/4 Million debt whilst such a fool was still leader so he ostensibly stood aside!!

Oh well – must catch up!!

Sorry if you have missed out on your steady supply of substantive facts about EUkip and the vile mess they are getting into as they bury their snouts ever deeper in the trough and send out their liars and low lifes to cheat and bully to keep the flow of self enrichment flowing. Of course these odious people are fighting like rats in a corner – most of them could NEVER get a job that paid a fraction as much based on merit and a number of them have either resrted to crime or have been serial failures before striking it rich on this rich seam betraying Britain, their electorate and the party for no more than venal gain – allied with whatever scum will make them the most money making deal after deal to secure their scams.

Let us hope the internet remains a tool for us all to expose corruption and lies despite the dishonesty and corrupt efforts of EUkip to not just suppress freedom of choice in clothing but also to suppress freedom of speech and honest material being published about them on the internet – scared even of lampoon for their frailty and venality being exposed.

Let us hope the public are sufficiently aware that they reject these evil people and their self serving bullying on every count in the General Election as clearly they have nothing to offer the peoples of Britain with their new racist views and policies, their Islamaphobic drivel, their xenophobia and anti Judaism muddled with their Zionism in display of their lack of vision or understanding of politics yet supporting corruption, dishonesty, abuse of the Courts and self serving behaviour.

Back to work, now that I have the internet and phone working! Keep your fingers crossed for luck seems to take precedence over technology, whilst evil has triumphed too long as we fund corrupt politicians whilst working only for truth unpaid! My choice I accept but I put my country and my values which were those of Britain ahead of any income!!

Gain is clearly the motivating factor of filth like Batten, Colman, Denny, Malcolm Wood, Farage, Bannerman, Andreasen, Agnew, Nuttall, Croucher, Reeve and the rest of the crew clearly all too willing to support racism, anti Judaism, xenophobia, violence and bullying for personal gain whilst attacking those with honest concerns and those willing to stand up for honesty, integrity and principles with morality and ethics who are attacked for exposing the filth that has risen like solids in a septic tank within EUkip.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

Posted in UKIP | Leave a Comment »

#826* – EUkip POLITICAL COMMITTEE MADE PEARSON’S DECISION FOR HIM!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/01/2010

#826* – EUkip POLITICAL COMMITTEE MADE PEARSON’S DECISION FOR HIM!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

EUkip POLITICAL COMMITTEE MADE PEARSON’S DECISION FOR HIM & OF COURSE DETAILS OF WHO WAS ELECTED ON THE COMMITTEE WERE MADE CLEAR AT UGLEY!!

Hi,

it is interesting to note that Lord Pearson putting in time with Farage’s ‘chum’ Iain Dale who has proved so frequently to toady for the Tories to try to get selected as a PPC especially through his blog Mrs. Dale’s Diary which is a Tory luvies gossip column – he has now interviewed Pearson!!

An interesting point came up, well it would relative to the Tories, where Pearson admitted that he had set out to do a deal and to quote his earlier words ‘had offered to fold EUkip if Cameron promised a referendum’.

The wrath this caused from the mouse that roared was  well to say the least unimpressive but everyone knew Batten hadn’t the will to carry out his threats so for once, in leadership terms, Farage got it right – ignore the dweeb he will lack the courage to do anything as he has shown consistently!

Pearson was asked who made the decision to fold EUkip to which he was happy to lay some claim but he attributed the decision to ‘The Political Committee’.

Pearson failed to clarify and the interview moved on – well do YOU know who the Political Committee in EUkip are and how they are selected – well I thought not.

I suggest you read the Ugley Meeting Minutes which can be found if you CLICK HERE It was at the Ugley Meeting that Paul Nuttall called together selected members in the Eastern Region and in support of the overt corruption and dishonesty in the Region by pond life like Peter Reeve, David Bannerman, Curtis, McGough, Agnew, Titford, Gulleford, Smith and their like Nuttall duped Martin Harvey and a group of other self seeking suckers into believing if they kept quiet and went along with the lies, bullying and corruption he would don his tutu and wave his magic wand after the election and all would be put right with the utterly corrupt, dishonest and unconstitutional Regional Committee sorted etc. – To date, to no one with intelligence’s surprise Nuttall has failed to honour any of his undertakings.

The one interesting fact to be minuted from that meeting was the structure of The Political Committee where Nuttall clearly stated that The Political Committee comprised Nigel Farage and anyone or no one he chose to assist him and that no minutes were kept and no agenda set and Farage therefore made Political decisions on his own. Well now at last Pearson has let on via Mrs. Dale’s Diary exactly who made the decision.

One is forced to ponder what else was in that agreement and just what has been promised to Farage by Cameron and Pearson and what hoops he has to lead the party through to realise his personal ambition and what are the chances of the Party surviving.

Interesting that Stuart Wheeler, who promised to vote Tory at the General Election, has engineered the parachuting in of Pearson – no wonder Farage paniced on TV during the leadership election and risked allienating so many in the party and has now panicked again handling the principled stance of Sinclaire in such a crassly amateur way.

2 & 2 so very often make 4!!!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

Posted in UKIP | Leave a Comment »

#825* – Civil War in EUkip: Pearson faces opposition from Farage over ex-members

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/01/2010

#825* – Civil War in EUkip: Pearson faces opposition from Farage over ex-members
Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Civil War in EUkip is becoming plain for all to see: Pearson faces opposition from Farage not just for Farage & Nuttall’s vile treatment of Nikki Sinclaire but over ex-members!

Hi,

Due to Techie problems this week this is largely a direct lift in layout terms from Junius with some additions and interjections, obviously I sought Junius permission and include such links as are apposite. The main body of the text has not just been widely circulated but has already been posted on numerous web sites.

I have but one serious comment to make regarding this posting which is that one has to wonder to what degree this is mere mischief making and to what degree genuine. I question anyone’s morality that they would widely distribute such a letter (which it has been as several very different people have provided copies or confirmation of the essay).

IF the authors believed in their utterances why would they be too ashamed or too timerous to put their names to it? There is absolutely no honourable reason anyone with a genuine interest in the well being of Britain would not or could not put their name to this letter if they felt it to be true. It is customary under such circumstances to gather together a body of those of the opinion put forward to attest and append their signature.

Such a document as this below bears no weight sadly.

I also believe you may find you are in the hands of some duplicitous individual who is willing to provide support and encouragement and promise much after the election yet, like Trevor Colman, renege on his undertaking when he had achieved his personal ambition of being elected! Or like Gerard Batten make much fuss but for personal political gain do nothing – little men in big jobs!

Before you read on just consider – in The South West Region 96% of members who responded to a poll called by Roger Knapman and his co-signators supported withdrawal from the IndDemGroup – yet in TOTAL contempt for the members Farage dishonestly misled his own MEPs, those with the integrity to care, and constructed a new self serving Pan EU Political group the EFD which had ALL the faults of the IndDemGroup that had been rejected AND had reabsorbed the Lega Nord who had been chucked out of the IndDemGroup previously for their vile extremism and adherance to promoting membership of the EU which put both Derek Clarke and Nigel Farage under the spotlight with their advocacy of Britain’s greater subsidiarity to the EU and aid for the EU in working with committees to strengthen the EU’s control over member regions!

The proud boast of many of Farage’s new ‘good little earner’ is that they supported The New Constitution Lisbon Treaty. Could this be the reason why under the dictatorial command of Farage EUkip took absolutely no meaningful action to oppose the New Constitution untill it had passed through The House of Commons when they lamely traipsed around filming their own staff in the pretence that they had members and public support!

I do actually question whether this UNSIGNED, fatherless document may not be a ruse to dupe ex members back into EUkip – because do remember it is clear EUkip executive will stoop to any filthy level in betrayal of our Country to achieve their aims and keep their snouts in the trough. We have seen and had proven by the example given that EUkip leadership not only can not be trusted but know no bounds to their dishonesty when it comes to their own enrichment paying wives and family, rigging selection processes and corrupting elections.

How could the authors of the letter with any integrity be advocates to those who have already left in disgust to rejoin to prop up the corruption?

We all know there are MEPs mumbling about they will do something AFTER the election – Oh so they are perfectly happy to totally misrepresent the truth to gain votes, with the plan to quit after they have misled everyone and once the votes are cast! Seems there is only one elected member in the party with integrity and clearly Farage, Nuttall, Gill and their cronies so feared the truth they opted to make a mountain out of a mole hill in display of their utter chav like lack of leadership or honour and tried, but failed, to orchestrate not just a character assassination on Nikki Sinclaire but to behave like gutter snipes both on and off of the media in their panic and incompetence – for it was they who acted in this way and any part the muppets on the NEC took was ONLY by behest..

Anyone with an opinion is accused of being my puppet – yet they are so scared that every time I have challenged Farage and his sad praise singers to provide provenance or debate they have huffed and puffed about my irrelevance – OK so I am NOT the puppet master, I am irrelevant (tell that to Tom Wise!!!) and the many decent honest people who have left EUkip have done so honourably based upon fact – yeah I thought so.

EUkip are happy to spin and lie but even they know I don’t work for Lord Ashcroft, MI5, The EU, The CIA, The Tories, MI6, The New World Order or any of the other fanciful drivel their executive have come out with – they will of course continue to lie about me, that is the nature of the dishonest and the corrupt taking any gutter route to try to silence the truth!

Civil War in UKIP: Pearson faces opposition from Farage over ex-members



These VERY interesting documents recently dropped on our desk.

UKIP is now in a state of Civil War. A growing number of members are becoming increasingly angry with the the current state of the Party. The Nikkigate affair was the final straw.

Even former Farage sycophants are now starting to question the wisdom of allowing Farage’s stranglehold on the Party to continue unchecked.

These documents are the result.

They were sent to ex-UKIPPERS. The documents call for all ex-UKIPPERS to rejoin the Party.

They then go on to present a damning indictment of the failure of UKIP under Farage and his sycophants.

It is clear that UKIP can only move forward if Farage and his sycophants are removed. They are the problem. They are certainly not part of the solution.

Unless Farage, Bannerman, the odious Nuttall, Denny, Gill, Zuckerman, Duffy, Bloom, Nattrass, Andreasen, Arnott, Oxley, Towler, Ransome, Clark, Smith, Rowe, Croucher and the rest of this rotton bunch are removed NONE of the proposed reforms will succeed. They are all tainted by corruption and will fight tooth and nail to stop Pearson reforming UKIP.

Don’t forget that members of UKIP’s press office even leaked stories about Pearson to the press in an effort to damage him after Farage was forced to stand down as leader following ‘advice’ by Wheeler!

Here is the email version:


UKIP Obstacles

Lord Pearson delegated contact with senior former members of UKIP with the intention of holding small lunch parties at the House of Lord. He has encountered resistance! That is no surprise. Whilst he sorts out this problem a small group is proposing to attack the situation from the flank.

Attached is a template which we hope you will wish to use and return your views to us. We will then present a consolidated concensus to Lord P. (with dissenting views if necessary) so he begins to get a fully rounded picture of the party and hopefully its way forward. No names of respondents will, at this stage, be included in the report.

We want to present this to him before Parliament reconvenes in early January. Would you please firstly indicate that you wish to take part and then return your considered answers in good time.

We consider it is vital, however difficult, that such valuable resigned/removed members should return to the fold,

Our cause is far more important than any personality clashes.

WHAT ARE THE OBSTACLES TO EX-UKIP OFFICE HOLDERS AND MEMBERS REJOINING?

The job of the Leader is laborious including control of administration, financial oversight, choice of personnel, media, etc. There are NEC meetings, election meetings, media appearances, travel to the regions. No wonder Nigel Farage said it was too much for him.

Moreover, the party faces an imminent general election whereby almost all other activity is suspended while a general election campaign is planned, financed and fought.

However, as the Party has wasted the last four years and is even more dysfunctional than it was in 2005 with substantially less members, things cannot continue as before.

This is an effort to find out precisely which matters are doing the greatest damage to UKIP and which areas need to be addressed urgently.

Specifically, what would encourage former key members to rejoin and stop others leaving?

The new Leader

I think Lord Pearson is well respected by the great bulk of UKIP members and is regarded as principled and well connected. His political history shows he puts principle above personal advancement.

There are two question marks:

1. His involvement in perfectly legal but ethically uncertain claims for expenses, etc. He is, of course, far from the only MP, peer or MEP to be involved in this.

2. His imperfect and narrow knowledge of the mechanisms and personalities in UKIP.

So the question here is, do you have any objection to the new Leader as a person?

Policies

Few office holders of members left UKIP because of the broad thrust of its policies although there may be disputes over details.

In recent times, UKIP has added a questioning attitude to climate change policies on a global and national scale. It has also added a more severe criticism of Islam (especially via Lord Pearson). This latter is, of course, the standard position of Christian Europe throughout the ages and in recent times such varied figures as Gladstone and Churchill have voiced similar concerns.

UKIP certainly needs to put out policy papers on climate change scepticism and Islam but they seem to be natural follow-ons to its patriotic, self-government core stance.

The question is, do you have any major disagreement with UKIP political policies?

Governance

I think it is reasonable to say that most ex-members and ex-officials left the Party because of governance issues. These are varied but I will try to group them as follows:

3. The failure to adhere to the Constitution.

i. Reporting to the NEC, there should be a political committee which keeps minutes and whose members are publicly announced. This has never been done. The job of the political committee is to make interim political decisions between NEC meetings and any minuted decisions should be reported to and approved by the NEC.

ii. Misbehaviour by the NEC in suspending/removing members of the NEC.

iii. Improper accounting, especially connected with the Ashford call centre.

iv. Improper elections. For example, the Returning Officer’s report on the elections for the EU candidate list was overruled.

v. The offer to ‘stand down’ or ‘disband’ the Party at the next general election was made without authority and was contrary to Clause 3.1 of the Constitution.

vi. Suspension of members on flimsy allegations of BNP links.

vii. The conduct of the Discipline Committee.

viii. NEC members have not carried out their constitutional role in having full debates with all relevant information. Some members appear to be ignorant of their responsibilities and are happy to be sidelined.

4. Misbehaviour in governance by the former Party Leader and others or usurpation of power by them.

i. The conduct of the Electoral Commission investigation, failure by the Party to adhere to the rules which it had done under previous Treasurers and the outcome being massive losses and legal costs. Failure by the NEC to control the process. Alan Bown is said to have openly said he will not honour his guarantee. Why?

ii. The failure to establish a UKIP media office. There is only a press office of the Brussels party which is appointed by and reports to Nigel Farage.

There is no system for distributing media enquiries. In any case, the media office should be directed by the Party Leader not from Brussels. Wherever possible, media appearances should be prepared with briefings. In the ‘disbanding’ storm, Malcolm Pearson and Nigel Farage gave contradictory statements to the media and there was no agreed written note of what the ‘offer’ was.

iii. There are no transparent systems of appointing Party staff, nor is there a published list of staff, their responsibilities or their reporting line of control.

Which of the above matters, or any other matters, do you think MUST be corrected before you would rejoin?

The MEPs

The relationship of the MEPs to the Party and their behaviour has always been dysfunctional.

5. There are no clear cut rules about publishing expenses.

6. There is no code as to what part of their salary MEPs would give to the national party on a continuing basis.

7. There is no code about MEPs’ attendance.

8. The procedure for appointing Brussels’ staff is opaque, probably no references are ever checked.

9. There is no financial reporting of the Brussels’ operation to the NEC. (It will be recalled this infusion of cash and resources is put forward as the main reason for having MEPs.)

10. There is opaqueness about who is employed by the MEPs or the group – Croucher? Fuller? Who knows? Who does Andreassen employ?

11. Apart from the doubts regarding her appearance on the MEP candidate list, the promise by Labour and Tories to enact laws not allowing MPs and peers to be non-domiciled will throw the position of Marta Andreassen into doubt.

12. There have been constant media stories about personal misbehaviour by MEPs in Brussels with no action taken.

Which of these matters MUST be corrected before you would rejoin or are there other matters?

Are some problems beyond institutional repair and are simply a reflection of insecure people at the top of UKIP – the lack of officer qualities?

13. The entrapment of Haslam, the former Treasurer.
14. Attempts to smear people with BNP connections.
15. Bullying behaviour.
16. Secrecy.
17. The constant desire to evade the constitutional norms.

It is worth noting Samuel Pepys, founder of the Navy, commented “A person who cannot say no is not fit for public service”.

Do you think UKIP suffers from the wrong kind of personalities or do you think institutional order will solve its problems?

In order to tabulate responses, it would be helpful if you would categorize your responses under the headings above.

There may be matters missed out in each section or not mentioned at all which you think are critical.

Please feel free to note these under the relevant section or at the end of your reply.

Due to Techie problems this week this is largely a direct lift in layout terms from Junius with some additions and interjections, obviously I sought Junius permission and include such links as are apposite.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

Posted in UKIP | Leave a Comment »

#824* – Even Bloggers 4 UKIP turn against Farage

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/01/2010

#824* – Even Bloggers 4 UKIP turn against Farage

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Even Bloggers 4 UKIP turn against Farage, with a series of disillusioned Comments from past blinkered sychophants all too willing to lie bully and disemble on his behalf – now belatedly waking up!

Hi,

it has become clear to all that Nigel Farage in using and abusing EUkip as his personal feifdom has not only stitched it into a Guilty verdict at Court needlessly and a £3/4 Million of debt – but seemingly desparate to avoid personal responsibility resigned to apease Stuart Wheeler so that he would pay off this, Farage’s largest debt SO FAR.

Now Farage has made Malcolm Lord Pearson look like the political bufoon he indubitably has proved to be – painted into a corner by Farage’s venal determination to surround himself with the scum of EU politics Racists, Xenophobes, anti Jewish advocates and practitioners of violence in a pro EU membership grouping in the EU surrounded by his salaried praise singers.

Thus when integrity reared its ugly head he utterly usurped even the pretence that he had resigned his leadership to Lord Pearson leaving Pearson with no choice but to either be man enough to confront and overthrow Farage or to dishonour his word to Nikki Sinclaire – we note his silence in default of defence of Sinclaire’s integrity. Even trying to blame the NEC on Monday 1st. will not fool anyone any more than has the smoke screen of seizing the BNP’s clothes and distracting people with the completely idiotic and ill thought out farce of pretending to ban burkhas as a policy!!

Friday, 22 January 2010

Even Bloggers 4 UKIP turn against Farage

So even Farage Sycophants 4 UKIP – also known as Bloggers4UKIP – are finally waking up to the fact that their dearly beloved is a law unto himself.
Here is a recent post from their blog:

The Nikki Sinclair Affair

Those who visit this site on a regular basis will have seen two versions of one event posted here, which the Chairman of the NEC Paul Nuttall in his statement simply doe not refer to, indeed I have repeatedly asked Douglas Denny of the NEC and others including Christopher Gill’s grandson for clarification of this visit to Nikki’s office as clearly two ‘reliable’ sources have provided two different versions.

Paul Nuttall in his condemnation of Nikki Sinclair does not mention that ‘the breach’ referred to concerns the allegation made by Nigel Farage on National television. Nikki Sinclair states quite categorically that two of the most senior figures in the party were fully aware she was a discharged bankrupt. She named these as the Party Secretary Michael Zuckerman, who also doubles as the parties legal adviser, and Clive Page, the now former Chief Press Officer for the party and formally a close confident of Nigel Farage.

It is clear for those with an open mind Nikki Sinclair, after leaving the EFD group, and my only comment about that would be that we are told Lord Pearson of Rannoch, the party leader, who has kept silent on this, fully supported Nikki Sinclair in leaving, has been subjected to a witch hunt to justify her removal from the position of PPC, and the possible expulsion from the party.

This once again indicates that it matters not that a member of 16 years standing who has donated thousands of pounds to the party, who has been in very large part responsible for a huge rise in support for UKIP in her region, has had her reputation impugned by the former leader of the party Nigel Farage, for what many have said is his personal dislike of her.

I think it is important that both sides of this story be told

To see the original: LINK

Perhaps they will now realise that UKIP is STILL controlled by Farage. Perhaps they will now realise that any UKIPPER who dares to defy the Fuhrer faces smears and possible expulsion. Perhaps they will now realise that UKIP is NOT a party of free thinkers. Perhaps they will now realise that Farage and his sycophants are leading UKIP to electoral disaster.

The above was, due to Techie problems on my part, posted late and copied from Junius with additions.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

Posted in UKIP | Leave a Comment »

#823* – skeptyc’s DENIALS & RESPONSES FOR CROUCHER!!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 21/01/2010

#823* – skeptyc’s DENIALS & RESPONSES FOR CROUCHER!!!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

skeptyc’s DENIALS & RESPONSES FOR CROUCHER!!
SO I WRITE REGARDING CROUCHER & skeptyc MAKES THE ANSWERS!
but OF COURSE THEY ARE NOT ASSOCIATED IN ANY WAY!

Hi,

I recently mailed the following letter to a number of people and Niall Warry was kind enough to place it on Anthony Butcher’s squalid and dishonest Forum where he permits the likes of those who write the Septyk postings and those of Douglas Denny, Feal-Martinez, Croucher and others to lie and defame with impunity in support of EUkip – whilst Butcher himself corruptly and dishonestly prevents either right of reply or responsible moderation banning those who publish the truth as he acts for and on behalf of the liars and cheats such as Nuttall and others who call the tune to which he dances.

Just as it is understood that the ISP numbers of posters hostile to the duplicity of EUkip are conveniently leaked to EUkip!

Here is the letter I mailed:

Hi,

I had a phone call and I gather Croucher is running off at the mouth and being malicious based on inaccurate interpretation of the facts as ever – he, Douglas Denny and Feal-Martinez get such a kick out of lies told behind my back it is almost funny!

I hear after being slung off the Forum for outright lies Feal-Martinez is back and defaming me without evidence to back his lies as ever – clearly Butcher being utterly corrupt is unwilling to take action – as with the lies and conjecture from Douglas Denny, Croucher and those who write as Skeptik but are too ashamed to put their name to their false claims.

I gather Croucher has complained that I said he WAS skeptik – which I do not recall and have failed to find on my blog – perhaps he would care to identify where and I will make the correction on receipt of his undertaking that he has no part in the Skeptik blog – he is we know a dishonourable individual and a liar with a mass of proof in the public domain but in this instance I am happy to give him the benefit of the doubt if he can manage to act in an adult and courteous manner.

Please would you be so good as to post this on The Forum, as you are well aware I have NEVER made a substantive error on my blog and have listed every correction I have been asked to make, which I have done. All to date have been of little consequence (3 I think) considering well over a 1,000 blog entries in a medium I am not very conversant with, I would say that was quite a good track record, though of course I would rather never make an error!

Thank You,
Regards,
Greg L-W.

CONTACTS:
Greg’s Links

As yet Croucher has not responded giving his undertaking unequivocally that he has nothing to do with the Skeptick postings or their input in any way.

However those who make the postings, or at least someone who posts in that name has highlighted examples where I have linked Skeptyk and Croucher – I, not being very competent with search systems had failed to find the examples quoted where I had done so. I am more than happy to concede I showed a link between the two as has been shown by others, I believe I am still correct in saying nowhere have I said Croucher IS Skeptyk and clearly I am not willing to take the word of some low lifes who make a claim in a name they are unwilling to grace with identity.

That the similarity of style, choice of words, childish demeanour of many of the postings on the Skeptik postings are all but identical to those made by Croucher I await his unequivocal denial of his part in the issue.

In the interim perhaps readers would all like to read the postings brought to our attention by Septyc, particularly in the light of the similarity of the sneering and unpleasant style shared with the proven liar, dissembler, cheat and serial failure Mark Croucher who has done so much harm to the credibility of UKIP with his antics, lies and behaviour over many years and with who there is a great deal in common both in OCD style and distortion of minor details to dishonest gain in the hands of both.

It was in noting these similarities between the posters that several people had commented they were one and the same – though I believe I did NOT so state merely intimated for others to draw their own conclusions – I position I am happy to adhere to in default of an unequivocal undertaking that there is no connection between the postings under the two separate names.

Here are the examples led by those masquerading in shame as Skeptyk:

Thanks to Niall Warry. Here are a few links – spelling errors are GLW’s

you are not being accused of anything you are merely being EUkipped – a process of dishonestly smearing which Croucher/Skeptyck are adept CATERPILLARS and BUTTERFLIES: #782* – Gary CARTWRIGHT SHOWS JUST WHAT SCUM EUkip HAVE BECOME!

CROUCHER REPEATS THE CLAIM HE ISN’T SEPTYK! HE ALSO POINTS OUT HIS BELIEF THAT IF HE REPEATS A LIE IT BECOMES MORE PLAUSIBLECATERPILLARS and BUTTERFLIES: #773* – CROUCHER REPEATS THE CLAIM HE ISN’T SEPTYK!

I have NEVER lied about anyone in my whole life yet these scum grant any piece of filth that EUkip can dredge up such as Paul Nuttall, David Bannerman, Nigel Farage, Douglas Denny, Bob Feel Martinez, Mark Croucher aka Skeptick, Michael McGough, Malcolm Wood aka BVD, Matt Davis, Brendan Padmore, or the like to lie and distort facts to denigrate me dishonestlyCATERPILLARS and BUTTERFLIES: #770* – The WEASELS & The GUTTER RATS of EUkip
FIRSTLY – never having been a frustrated school teacher I have never felt a need to point out the failures of other people’s spelling to desparately attempt to boost my own status – there again I have nothing to prove my spelling having been shoddy to say the least for over 50 years but I have strenuously endeavoured to maintain the material & consequential truth of this blog, as with the heading skeptyk selected:

CROUCHER REPEATS THE CLAIM HE ISN’T SEPTYK! HE ALSO POINTS OUT HIS BELIEF THAT IF HE REPEATS A LIE IT BECOMES MORE PLAUSIBLECATERPILLARS and BUTTERFLIES: #773* – CROUCHER REPEATS THE CLAIM HE ISN’T SEPTYK!

wherein i made it abundantly clear that Croucher repeated his claim that he was not Skeptyc – I would say that he has rather shot himself in the foot with this selection – as with the fact he felt the need to address my letter regarding Croucher in the chosen psuedonym!! Freud would no doubt make much of such telling facts.

I wonder which part of the denial published on my blog the idiot masquerading as skeptick didn’t understand – may I remind you in 3 lines of the header of the posting in capitals I TWICE I draw to EVERYONE’s attention:

‘CROUCHER REPEATS THE CLAIM HE ISN’T SEPTYK!’

Frankly because anyone without the integrity to put their name to their posts without giving due reason is little more than irrelevant dirt it matters not what skeptick’s denials are they are of no substance or material weight just rather vile cowardice.
As made very clear by the content, which is so similar to that of the proven liar and low life Mark Croucher and others of a similar ilk such as Douglas Denny

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

Posted in UKIP | Leave a Comment »

#822* – EUkip EXPECTED TO TRY TO COBBLE TOGETHER A DISHONEST FUDGE!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 20/01/2010

#822* – EUkip EXPECTED TO TRY TO COBBLE TOGETHER A DISHONEST FUDGE!!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

EUkip ARE EXPECTED TO TRY TO COBBLE TOGETHER A DISHONEST FUDGE AS A FACE SAVER ON 01-Feb-2010! DISHONEST & INCOMPETENT LEADERSHIP IS EXPECTED TO TRY TO BLAME THE NEC!!

Hi,

I understand we can all expect another utterly dishonest fudge of events at EUkip’s NEC on 01-Feb-10 when I understand it is planned that Farage, Nuttall, Gill and others will seek to shift the blame for their dishonourable and dishonest behaviour regarding Nikki Sinclaire MEP to the NEC – when as a collection of nebishes it is clear the NEC acts as little more than dishonestly misguided puppets.

It is clear that there is no one of integrity, competence or gravitas on The NEC many of whose members have colluded on a regular basis in dishonesty and corruption and it has been noted over many years that anyone of morality, basic decency or noticeable ability has been engineered out of position leaving some of the most ghastly self serving lightweights in the British political diaspora.

Full responsibility for the outrageous behaviour of Farage, Nuttall, Gill, Pearson, Bennett and others is theirs and theirs alone – it is they who have brought EUkip into disrepute AND association with some of the most vile individuals in EU politics in the EFD. I do not believe there is any honourable action that can be taken other than accepting their resignation together with those who colluded with them including the MEPs who have had neither the judgement nor the ethics to speak out against the corruption apparent institutionalised dishonesty and undeniable lack of competent judgement.

Having, due to flagrant dishonesty, lack of professionalism and utter childish stupidity managed to so antagonise the authorities and refuse to make accomodation to remain within the law Andrew Smith the then so called treasurer, David Lott, Nigel Farage and presumably others managed to obtain a Guilty verdict and £3/4Million of debt.

That they are that stupid is proven by the Court record – you will note they lost their last case which they defended against Nikki Sinclaire and that was despite the fact that she was allegedly advised by Michael Zuckerman who has proved his duplicity and his incompetence in like measure since!

It is likely that should Sinclaire as a 42 year old elected MEP of long standing with the party were to take the party to Court for the damage that Farage, Nuttall, Gill, Pearson & Bennett have deliberately done her political career they would loose – the case being brought by Edward Macmillan-Scott in The High Court sets a clear precedent should Sinclaire opt to follow that route minded of the length ahead of her in career terms.

It is likely that when Sinclaire wins EUkip and all those liable for its debts would find themselves in a parlous situation – consider an income of £80,000+ and inflation over a 20+ years ahead claim for loss of income and loss of pension rights PLUS personal damages – maybe a worst case scenario but what would you consider a best case scenario when clearly a malicious dishonesty has apparently been orchestrated by Farage, Nuttall, Pearson, Gill, Bennett and others. Meanwhile there has been collusion by failure to speak out in defence of ethical behaviour by ALL of the other EUkip MEPs – this would seem to be gang bullying based on securing personal gain!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

Posted in EUkip; UKIP; NEC; Sinclaire; Farage; Gill; Pearson; Nuttall; | Leave a Comment »

#821* – EUkip were warned On 01- July – 2009

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 20/01/2010

#821* – EUkip were warned On 01- July – 2009

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

EUkip were warned On 01- July – 2009 On The Web Site That At Least ONE of Their MEPs had sufficient integrity to wish to repudiate association with the anti Jewish racists and violence of The EFD members!

Hi,

here is Nikki Sinclaire’s warning to The Faragista Fan Club and others that she will not sit with The EFD – she patiently tried to work for change but it is hardly worthwhile pandering to their needs when EUkip left much to do!

Nikki’s previous statement, Brussels, 1st July 2009
Nikki is guided by the goal and principle of the UK withdrawing from the EU.
In her work to achieve the above she will constantly be reviewing her actions and associations and will endeavour to make the right decisions.

 

EUROPE of FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY
The Group Political Platform

The Group is open to Members that subscribe to a Europe of Freedom and Democracy and acknowledge the United Nations Declaration on Human Rights and parliamentary democracy.

The Group subscribes to the following programme:

1. Freedom and co-operation among people of different States
Committed to the principles of democracy, freedom and co-operation among Nation States, the Group favours an open, transparent, democratic and accountable co-operation among sovereign European States and rejects the bureaucratisation of Europe and the creation of a single centralised European superstate.

2. More democracy and respect of People’s will
Convinced that the legitimate level for democracy lies with the Nation States, their regions and parliaments since there is no such thing as a single European people; the Group opposes further European integration (treaties and policies) that would exacerbate the present democratic deficit and the centralist political structure of the EU. The Group favours that any new treaties or any modification of the existing treaties are to be submitted to the peoples’ vote through free and fair national referenda in the Member States. The Group does believe that the legitimacy of any power comes from the will of its Peoples and their right to be free and democratically ruled.

3. Respect for Europe’s history, traditions and cultural values

Peoples and Nations of Europe have the right to protect their borders and strengthen their own historical, traditional, cultural and religious values. The Group rejects xenophobia, anti-Semitism and any other form of discrimination.

4. Respect for national differences and interests: Freedom of votes

Agreeing on embodying these principles in its proceedings, the Group respects the freedom of its delegations and Members to vote as they see fit.

19th January 2010

The Case for withdrawal

1.  
UKIP MEPs were elected to represent UKIP and to pursue the argument for EU withdrawal
We stood for election on a platform of principle and clarity. We were elected as UKIP and to fight for withdrawal from the EU. We should stay true to that. We were not elected to join to support the Parliament’s agenda and certainly not to work alongside those against withdrawal. You elected UKIP but have got EFD.

2. 
By sitting with MEPs who are against withdrawal we are compromising our case
In the eyes of the European Parliament and many observers we are seen as EFD and not UKIP. Yet all EFD members, except UKIP, are working hard to make the EU better. They do not want withdrawal. They would not allow the word ‘withdrawal’ or ‘independence’ to be used in the Group’s mission statement. We are therefore part of a coalition that waters down and even contradicts our original position. We compromise both our principles and our action.

3. 
EFD helps the EU to work; we should not be doing that
Few people in UKIP understand the extent to which the Party has been subsumed within the group. EFD wants to make the European Parliament stronger. It wants the EU to work better. It argues for constructive reform. On a day-to-day basis it often supports the introduction of directives and policies to expand EU power. The Co-presidents, Lega Nord, call for a single European policy on immigration. UKIP should be on the opposite side – arguing against reform and for abolition.

4. 
EFD includes some very strange bedfellows
The group contains parties who have a variety of extremist views which includes racism, anti-Semitism and violence. One of these parties, Lega Nord was removed from the last EU group to which UKIP belonged, Indpendence & Democracy (Ind Dem), because of their extremist views. Despite this history, they are now Co-Presidents of EFD and hold the power of veto on Nigel Farage.

Political Editor and commentator, Seamus Milne, on the Politics Show (16th January 2010) described Lega Nord as “vicious” and said that we “were in bed with some very ugly people.”

In a BBC interview, Nikki Sinclaire MEP and Mike Nattrass MEP were asked, if UKIP was not a racist party why we were linked up to parties like Lega Nord who advocated shooting and sinking ships full of immigrants and also called African immigrants ‘Bingo Bongos’? A Lega Nord member was convicted of setting alight an immigrant’s belongings, endangering their life.

5. 
EFD compromises our position both in Brussels and in Britain
UKIP has to water down its words and tactics in Brussels so as not to upset other members of EFD who take the reformist, anti-withdrawal line. And EFD will only back UKIP in Britain when UKIP promotes arguments that fall short of outright withdrawal. Leading Economics Professor, Tim Congdon stated in late 2009 that he was very disappointed to see the extent to which UKIP MEPs “had been ‘captured’ in the sense of not seeing that their job was in Britain, not in Brussels or Strasbourg”. UKIP leader, Lord Pearson also recently stated that “our role in Britain is what matters not the European Parliament.”

6. 
It is a myth that we benefit financially from EFD membership
It is claimed that Group membership brings with it money for UKIP. This is completely false. First it would be illegal to pass this money to UKIP. It is for the use of EFD and very restrictive rules apply. Secondly the budget follows MEPs whatever group they are in. If one joins the non-aligned, the EU monies allocated are slightly less but at least you can be in charge of all your allocation. In some instances, there would be fewer restrictions. For example, the UKIP logo could be prominently used with the party and MEP’s name. In the first six months of this parliament, the West Midlands’ region has not received one penny from the EFD, yet both MEPs would have had over £40,000 to use in that period had they been non-aligned.

7.  
Being in EFD gets us more media coverage
Neither the public nor most journalists have ever heard of EFD. Our media coverage results from what UKIP, its MEPs and campaigners do and say. When Nigel appears on TV, it is as UKIP. It should also be noted that Tory MEP, Daniel Hannan received more press attention as a non-aligned member than Nigel Farage did when they both attacked Gordon Brown.

8.  
Because the EFD group is a precursor to a full Pan European political party
The current proposal on the table for UKIP MEPs in Brussels is for UKIP to join such a party to conform to the EU plan to entrench the federalist Euro-state:a President, a Foreign Secretary, Flag, Anthem, Police Force, Army, Parliament, MEPs and pan-European political parties. We should do as the electorate told us to do and SAY NO to European Union and to those apparatus that help them to remove our sovereignty and our British identity.

To view the original of the eminently sensible comments above at source:
CLICK HERE



Minded of the undertaking above:


4. Respect for national differences and interests: Freedom of votes
Agreeing on embodying these principles in its proceedings, the Group respects the freedom of its delegations and Members to vote as they see fit.

It would seem based upon the unacceptable behaviour of the Co-President of this squalid little group that the rules are not considered valid or binding on members such as Farage or Nuttall as they are in flagrant breech of this rule in seeking to FORCE Nikki Sinclaire to vote as they Demand – This also puts them Ultra Vires relative to Article 3 of the EU rules on voting on which item 4 above is based.

It is not expected that they will have the integrity to accept responsibility for their actions lacking the basic fundamentals of leadership skills – we can expect them dishonestly to seek to blame others for their unacceptable and utterly incompetent behaviour – presumably since they are the easiest to blame these cowards will seek to blame the idiots in EUkip NEC – now that there is no one of merit left on the NEC who has not colluded in corruption they have little ground to protest!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

Posted in UKIP | Leave a Comment »

#820* – MEP takes legal action

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 20/01/2010

#820* – MEP takes legal action

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

MEP takes legal action WHICH SETS A VERY DANGEROUS PRECEDENT FOR EUkip!

Hi,

Perhaps before Nigel Farage, Malcolm Lord Pearson and Paul Nuttall start to try to seek to shift the blame to the NEC for the idiotic decision they made and were responsible for as the leadership they should consider the risks.

You will note that Nikki Sinclaire MEP who Farage has now twice attacked on British National TV and who Pearson has shamefully betrayed and Nuttall has written in detail attacking and of course the ghastly old failure, liar and cheat Christopher Gill has so clearly attacked, and incited others to act criminally against by ROBBERY, and debarred from entry to a meeting of her own committee – perhaps they should read the article from The Telegraph below on Edward Macmillan-Scott.

E.M-S. was born in 1949 and thus will be past retirement age at the net EU elections which will clearly ameliorate his damages but of course when Sinclaire takes EUkip to Court for their unlawful action she can rightly claim at 42 that EUkip’s action has blighted her political career – have you noticed her salary and its increments over the last few years then consider just the basic MEP salary she stands to loose due to Farage, Nuttall, Pearson, Gill, Bennett and any others they instructed such as the NEC members, for 20 years and the pension that would give – That is assuming that the Courts find that she could not in the next 25 years rise to higher office!

MEP takes legal action against Conservatives

Edward McMillan-Scott is mounting a High Court legal challenge after being expelled from the Tories for defying the Conservative leadership over its European alliance with “extremists”.
By Bruno Waterfield in Brussels
14 Jan 2010
The rebel MEP, a Tory for 43 years, was expelled for opposing David Cameron’s decision to form a European Union grouping with the right-wing Polish Law and Justice Party (PiS).
The Yorkshire MEP, 60, a former Tory leader in the European Parliament, has been expelled from the Conservative Party for five years, ruling him out of standing again in EU-wide elections in June 2014. Mr McMillan-Scott is appealing to be reinstated as a member of the party.
“This is not about me: it is about the values of the next British government,” he said.
He is furious that the only previous five year ban imposed on a parliamentarian was that imposed on Lord Archer after he was imprisoned for perjury in 2001.
Den Dover, a former Tory MEP, was only expelled for a two-year period in 2008 for his refusal to pay back “unduly” claimed expenses payments worth over £538,000, he also noted.
“In the context of the Westminster expenses scandal, for which no Conservative was expelled, this will be seen by many as a serious case of double standards. The party seeks to prevent my candidacy in the next European election merely for taking a stand on matters of personal conscience. This raises very serious ethical, legal and political issues,” he said.
A Tory spokesman said: “He is no longer a member of the party and as far as we are concerned the matter is closed.”
The MEP’s internal appeal against expulsion was rejected by the Conservatives in December and further legal challenges have threatened to expose Tory divisions over Europe.
Mr McMillan-Scott defied party bosses in July by standing against and beating Michal Kaminski, a Polish PiS MEP, for the post of European Parliament Vice-President because, he claimed, the Pole had an extremist past.
Mr Kaminski, a senior right-winger close to Poland’s President, is now leader of the Conservative and Reform Group, formed by the Tories after Mr Cameron took his MEPs out of the mainstream, pro-EU, European People’s Party (EPP).
The MEP, with 25 years experience in Brussels, hinted at disunity at the highest levels of the Conservatives and said that Mr Cameron did not have “sufficient experience” of how the EU worked before imposing the decision to leave the EPP, made during his Tory leadership campaign.
“I don’t think he understood the implications of it. He did not discuss it, he merely told William Hague to get on with and to form a new group,” he said.
During his legal challenge, Mr McMillan-Scott will continue to sit as a non-attached or independent MEP and will not rejoin the EPP, he said.

To view the original of this article CLICK HERE

It does very much look as if
Nigel Farage – unelected defacto party leader (having resigned), who in his arrogant self important and utterly dishonest presumption has stolen various offices and privileges he finds financially beneficial eg:

Malcolm Lord Pearson, Zionist, Islamaphobic Titular Leader of a clearly dysfunctional EUkip.

Christopher Gill, failed ex Tory MP – untrustworth and duplicitous see:
CLICK HERE

Paul Nuttall, Farage placed him here as chairman to do his bidding!

Derek Bennett works in Mike Nattrass’ fire place shop and is salaried by the EU as one of Mike Nattrasse’s staff.

Farage, Pearson, Gill & Nattrass will all be spining for all it is worth and the NEC will try to pretend their actions were lawfull and that they were willing to make the sacrifice again if it was not fully registered! They will show themselves as they try to claim a different cover up – all will claim that they had no part in the situation but that the Fabric is far beyond explanation!

They can NOT pass the Buck!

So what will it be?
Will they resign?
Will they try to blame the NEC?
Will they try to save face?
Will they be bright enough to understand?

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

Posted in UKIP | Leave a Comment »

#819* – Don RANSOM Deadwood Derek CLARKE’S EUkip R.O. DRUNK

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/01/2010

#819* – Don RANSOM Deadwood Derek CLARKE’S EUkip R.O. DRUNK

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Don RANSOM, Deadwood Derek CLARKE’S EUkip REGIONAL ORGANISER DRUNK DRIVING CONVICTION!

Don Ransom: UKIP Regional Organiser/Drunk Driver


One of our contacts in Lincolnshire has kindly sent us the following report from The Boston Target.

A LEADING member of the UK Independence Party (UKIP) has been caught drink-driving in Boston.


Don Ransom who is UKIP’s East Midlands REGIONAL ORGANISER and has also stood unsuccessfully for seats on Boston Borough Council on several occasions, was stopped by police in London Road at about 3.30am on December 12 after his Ford Mondeo car was seen straddling the central line.

He failed a roadside breath test, was arrested and taken to Boston Police Station where he recorded a breathalyser reading of 57 micrograms of alcohol.

This was more than one-and-a-half times the legal limit of 35 micrograms.

Ransome, 52, of Clarke Court, Wyberton, admitted a drink-driving charge when he appeared at Boston Magistrates Court.

He was banned from getting behind the wheel for 16 months, fined £500 and ordered to pay £85 costs and a £15 victim’s surcharge.

Representing himself in court Ransome, who spearheaded UKIP’s European election campaign in the East Midlands last year, said on the day of the offence he had been at a Christmas party and had “misjudged” how much alcohol he had drunk.

He revealed he had a net weekly income of £800 and agreed to pay his financial penalties within 14 days.

Magistrates were told Ransome had three penalty points on his driving licence from a speeding offence in 2007 but had no previous criminal convictions.

An UKIP spokesman declined to comment on Ransome’s conviction or future with the party.

Lisa Porter
Reporter

Email: news@targetseries.co.uk

Tel: 01205 315000
Boston Office
16 Wide Bargate
Boston
Lincolnshire

End of article.

Perhaps he has spent a great deal too much time drunk!! Who knows, as when one Searches the web site not a single solitary UKIP headline comes up – it looks as if he is as unreliable and useless an article as his boss, Deadwood Derek Clarke EUkip MEP who is not only dishonest, disloyal and a fraud but untrustworthy and treacherous to boot.

Let us all be reminded how this pair and others working with the odious parasite Clarke treated Tony Elwood. I understand Songhurst finally quit but I presume Sue Ransom and the rest of the family are all hanging onto the gravy train like s**t to a blanket! Beats going back to shelf stacking and cashout in TESCO’s.

We bet EUkip declined to comment and Clarke hasn’t said anything worthwhile that wasn’t a betrayal of either those who helped him or Britain for years!

One can only speculate on Mrs Sue Ransom’s reaction to this! I hear there is a familial predeliction and she has problems with Ransom junior as well!

One can hope that she does not decide to try to sell the family home behind his back and seek pastures new – again!

But then again over £41,000 a year at the taxpayers expense is a BIG incentive not to go!

So what does UKIP intend to do about Mr Ransom? His position in UKIP is clearly untenable.

We would advise them to tell hapless Don to return to his taxi, if he can sober up, and start earning an honest wage!

& so the odious and self serving traitor Derek Clarke who betrayed Britain, the electorate and the party has lost the useless article he had as a Regional Organiser – Don Ransom – is now a convicted drunk driver – Boston Magistrates Court number URN 32 C80333909.

 We also hear the outcome of the OLAF enquiry having received additional material facts shortly before Christmas:
Derek Clark OLAF Case Number: D/007/033/04.09.08
Derek Clark OLAF Investigation Number: DD/FD-D2008.A1/7133/OF/2008/0240

It seems they are increasingly unlikely to have a happy ending for either Clarke or EUkip but that would of course best serve UKIP Members.

PS – TAKE THE FAMILY WITH YOU & HAVE YOU GOT ROOM FOR Derek?

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

Posted in EUkip; UKIP; Don RANSOM; RANSOM; Sue RANSOM; DRUNK; DRUNK DRIVING; Derek CLARKE MEP; | Leave a Comment »