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#811* – PEARSON IN PANIC EUkip IN DISARAY!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/01/2010

#811* – PEARSON IN PANIC EUkip IN DISARAY!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

PEARSON IS SEEMINGLYT IN PANIC & EUkip IN DISARAY! I doubt there will be many members fooled by this latest stalling device!


You do realise that the grubby little puppets have gone too far to admit they were wrong!

Lord Pearson of Rannoch

Those who read the threads of the members forum will recall I sent this message to Lord P,

Why have you not made any comment on the terrible abuse of Nikki Sinclair by Nigel Farage and other senior party officials. Do you lead UKIP or not.

Nikki says you fully supported her decision to leave the EFD, if true, why have you not called a halt to the on going character assassination.

Name: Robert Feal-Martinez

Email: r.feal-martinez@btconnect.com

I have today received a reply which I cannot disclose other than to say the possibility of justice being done exists. I cannot say more than that at this time, in deference to a request in the email.

I am content at this time, but will report as soon as I am able to.

Posted by Bob Feal-martinez at 11:42 To view the original: CLICK HERE

Its a secret!!!! I don’t think so Bob – 1st. Feb. = Monday = Next NEC meeting.

Anyway The member’s incest Forum provides the details!

So as a fudge Pearson has been helped out and there will be a review at The NEC meeting of the kangaroo Court’s decision on behalf of Farage so far.

There will be a pretence of fairness and they will permit Sinclaire to defend herself against a decision they can not back down on without resignations from:
Farage
Nuttall
Pearson
The NEC
and no doubt others – therefore the decision must be upheld whatever lies The Faragista Fan Club has to put forward.

Watch the drip drip drip of vitriol from EUkip’s hirelings fighting to retain their place at the troughs!

This gives the party spin time to put in place the pack of lies they need to make their dishonest and corrupt decision stand up & justyify their association with The EFD-EU Political group (defending the indifensible!).

We can expect them any minute to start to desparately spin with claims that Junius writers have been being given material by Sinclaire and that Niall Warry has been talking to her and receiving information they pass on to my blog!

Or will they claim I orchestrated it all and have been having regular meetings with Sinclaire – just as they try to claim that I manage and control all sorts of people from entire registered political parties, to elected politicians and various MEPs and PPCs.

I also note that I am allegedly working for MI5 AND the EU

MORE DETAILS TO FOLLOW I HAVE TO POP OUT TO MEET A CONTACT!

Added 16:30hrs.:

Hi – that WAS an interesting meeting!

Now consider this extract from a blog written by a Farage protege and outright supporter who saw through him pretty damned fast:

A great example of someone in politics who puts country before party, a slogan incidentally which her party claims to do, is Nikki Sinclaire MEP.  Earlier this week Nikki Sinclaire resigned from her party’s European group; Europe of Freedom & Democracy.  I’m not going to waste time going in to why she resigned, the reason is obvious once you look in to who is part of this group; Liga Nord et al.  Islamophobes, homophobes, anti-semites and xenophobes.

Nikki Sinclaire stood up to this and resigned from the group, knowing very well that she would be maligned by her own party.  I applaud her for this.  She’s one of the few politicians out there that exist to serve the people, not her own party and certainly not herself.

People in politics need to remember that they are there to serve the people.  It’s almost ironic to note that the ones who need be reminded the most of this, are the same ones making similar comments about bankers or the police.

To view in full and in context: CLICK HERE

For more FACTUAL DATA on EUkip’s Pan EU Political Party group The EFD CLICK HERE

Even if there was a decision, and it was claimed, new evidence had come to light that meant there was a fulsome apology from EUkip and Sinclaire was reinstated with a fulsome apology – the position of Farage, with his vitriolic lies on TV; Nuttall with his ill considered incompetent and unlawful abusive dismissal and the letter I will publish later, also the utter lack of honourable intervention from EUkip’s own in house puppet Lord Pearson the untrustworthy Islamaphobic bufoon, the attacks of McGough, Denny and many others would leave them with no option but to leave the party if EUkip belatedly decided to act honourably and Sinclaire were reinstated.

One must aplaud Sinclaire for acting honourably and with courage – she has avoided revealing what SHE knows about the internal Machinations of EUkip, some clearly criminal, as with Tom Wise and I understand additional evidence of money laundering were unearthed by OLAF. That Clarke’s Regional Organiser has met his come uppance as a drunk leaves Clarke rather exposed!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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#810* – Daily Politics & Nikki Sinclair – ON AN OFFICIAL EUkip BLOG!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/01/2010

#810* – Daily Politics & Nikki Sinclair – ON AN OFFICIAL EUkip BLOG!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Daily Politics & Nikki Sinclair – ON AN OFFICIAL EUkip BLOG by A EUkip ONE TIME LUVVY!
CONGRATULATIONS TO Bob Feal-Martinez WHO HAS CLEARLY WOKEN UP 😉

Friday, 15 January 2010

Daily Politics & Nikki Sinclair
Congratulations go to Nikki who despite the aggression shown her by the presenter and allowing Ian Dale to have a go at her she got her point across. She named names where she was allowed. Pointing out how Lord Pearson had given his assurance that she could remain within UKIP, she called upon him to show leadership by making a statement.
As an aside I have still not received a reply to the email I sent him.
The Guardian Associate Editor agree with Nikki that the some of groups within EFD were very extremist.
All in all despite the clear BBC agenda to put her down. I believe she has shown her commitment to UKIP. What was interesting once again, is that the NEC has not followed party rules with the actions they have taken. Let’s wait to see them spin this.
I’ve put the daily politics link in the header, the interview should appear there soon.

Posted by Bob Feal-martinez at 12:52

To view the original article CLICK HERE

9 Comments

Anonymous Anonymous said…
I thought that she did very well, despite some proper questioning from the interviewer. She didn’t slag off Farage, to her credit, and continued to support the party despite her crappy treatment.
15 January 2010 14:07
Anonymous Anonymous said…
I think this boils down to just one issue.
When she stood for MEP she agreed to the condition that she would be in the grouping in the EU parliament.
This she has gone back on, so Paul Nuttall had no choice but to take the action he did.
>G.L-W.: I do feel that EUkip need reminding that The Neurenberg Defence didn’t work last time!<
 
The issues on integrity and declaring one’s past are just a sideshow.
>G.L-W.: May I correct you – that EUkip’s leader (you obviously can’t take Pearson seriously in view of his dishonourable and shameful total lack of integrity) Farage LIED on TV as he so often does – he is without morality and the very worst example of self seeking scheister who will do ANYTHING for personal gain! He was dressed for the part as a WWII Spiv, so very apposite!>
I respect Nikki but I think she’s went over the top on this quite unnecessarily and her timing couldn’t have been worse.
>G.L-W.: So as a EUkip supporter clearly you would rather EUkip candidates put themselves forward to the electorate and campaigned based on a pack of lies supported by and aiding anti-Jewish, Racists, Xenophobes, holocaust deniers and apologists for The Waffen SS.

Perhaps we should all hope that such people should get not a single solitary vote and it is unsurprising that the commentator was too ashamed to put their name to their vile political views!<

It’s done now, so time to move on.
15 January 2010 15:25
Blogger Animal Magic said…
I wonder how much she actually knew about EFD and what she was agreeing to. Freedom & Democracy both sound good words to me. Nothing in their title about being homophobic or racist. It’s only when you get to meet them that you find out what else they are about. Question is did the leadship know what they were joining?
15 January 2010 16:10
Anonymous Senior said…
As a person who was considering voting for UKIP at the next general election, I am not sure whether to vote for them or not in light of this week’s revelations. If UKIP is the party of people like Nikki Sinclair who refuse to align with racists and homophobes, it has my votes. However, if UKIP is the party of people who think going against a pre-election agreement about partnerships is worse than refusing to align with racists and homophobes, there is absolutely no chance of me voting for it. I hope an official statement from UKIP will condemn those who oppose Nikki Sinclair’s actions. They should be expelled for thinking that aligning with racists and homophobes isn’t as bad as breaching a policy on partnerships.
15 January 2010 17:00
Blogger Bob Feal-martinez said…
Nigel Farage certainly knew about the group at the centre of all this Lega Nord. He expelled them from the previous aligned group in the last EU parliament for their extremist views.
I agree that removing the whip from such a hard working and long standing member which will have little real effect in the EU but a huge impact on the West Midlands area, where Nikki has pledged a lot of funding. Now she can’t do that as the NEC have removed her right to the use of UKIP materials.
Also once again the NEC have failed to follow the parties on Discipline procedure. Had they done so it would be almost certain that the discipline panel would have thrown out any further action against her.
Having the support an assurance of the Leader either means something or it doesn’t.
15 January 2010 18:11
Anonymous markymark said…
EFD Platform states that
“Peoples and Nations of Europe have the right to protect their borders and
The Group rejects xenophobia, anti-Semitism and any other form of discrimination.
>G.L-W.: The Nazis set up a work programme, Blair, Brown, Prescott & Straw colluded in war crimes by claiming Iraq had Weapons of Mass Destruction and a means of delivering them in 45 minutes.
Perhaps MarkyMark (also too ashamed to give his own name to his vile comments) – Perhaps you should confine yourself to Facts which you understand (if there are any) In the interim may I suggest you shut up an CLICK HERE for some facts.
Group respects the freedom of its delegations and Members to vote as they see fit.”
>G.L-W.: Clearly that means unless your name is Sinclaire and could you persuade the liars, cheats and bullies in EUkip’s quite revolting leadership team to read their own drivel before Farage goes on TV telling lies and the idiots on the NEC jump through his hoops in future!<
So Nikki is criticising a group that only exists in her mind.
>G.L-W.: How very EUkip, how astonishingly EU!! No sir you have this completely Rs backwards for it is you desparately failing to defend a figment of your imagination against the truth!!!<

On her own website, there is still a link for “Nigel must stay petition” [http://www.yourmep.org/links.html] – hardly the action of someone who thinks Nigel Farage was a poorly performing leader is it?

>G.L-W.: Indeed but clearly you particularly were too stupid to be able to understand it – Sinclaire made it very clear that she believed the incredible selfishness and dishonesty of Farage should not be brought to the fore so close to a General Election and like many of us she was probably all too well aware that Malcolm Lord Pearson was unlikely to prove to be either a competent leader and she will have noted that Farage had ONLY stood down from the title but had retained every aspect of the job of leader.

Sinclaire may also have been aware that because of the technical bankruptcy of EUkip caused by the lies and stupidity of Farage in his idiotic and dishonest behaviour over firstly Tom Wise and then The Electoral Commission, such that he had kept as an MEP and a member of EUkip a man who had given him about £5,000 to pay off a debt and who it was clear had brought EUkip into disrepute despite the lies of Douglas Denny and the corruption of Trevor Colman & others. Not to mention the £3/4 Million of debt Farage has personally accrued for EUkip whilst still paying his wife £30,000 a year (despite the fact she has been seeking referrences from EUkip staff to get additional work!!).

Sinclaire may well have known Alan Bown would renege on the promise John Whittacker duplicitously made for him and that Stuart Wheeler would not pay off the bill from his petty cash if Farage was still leader!

One wonders!

Her disappointment at not being voted leader of UKIP is understandable but she has to move on from this – think of the party in general.

>G.L-W.: As jokes go this risible spin from EUkip is just distasteful – Sinclaire did NOT want a leadership election as stated but she did want to raise the profile of EUkip in The West Midlands and in view of her undertaking to help fund other areas across Britain and of indulging Farage’s self serving action – she stood to campaign in the certain knowledge that Pearson would win but that a ‘Coronation’ would be catastrophic for the party.

The staggering lack of Political common sense of the Faragista Fan Club is laughable! At least Sinclaire seems to have a brain – now look at the rest of the useless, gutless articles EUkip has for MEPs who are quite happy to drag UKIP’s name into Farage’s gutter!<

Her timing is bad, her message is bad for UKIP – she has been selfish. She has publicly harmed the party.
>G.L-W.: You will note the timing was forced upon her by Farage calling an election for the title of leader and British law which requires a General Election shortly. Do try not to be such a plonker!<
She has misled the members about her commitments and bankruptcy – she can’t now stand as a UKIP representative.
>G.L-W.: Clearly you are not just a fool but a liar to boot – I wonder if you are man enough to put your name to your lies and then have the integrity to apologise for trying to dupe people. I doubt it!<
15 January 2010 18:57
Blogger pop said…
Get real
I had never even heard of her until this kicked off.
>G.L-W.: Well at least you admit you haven’t a clue what you are talking about!<
In itself it will make no difference, because all those who know/care have already made up their minds.
If she is working to get us out of the EU I support her, if Farage is doing so I support him too, if there are fascists, communists, racists, sexists and islamists working to get us out of the EU I support all of them too.
I *am* worried that UKIP don’t seem have anything to say about the election yet…
15 January 2010 19:10
Blogger taskermax said…
If she can’t use Ukip equipment and stationary etc. How the hell is she going to do her job of representing her constituents? I think by the reaction of especially Farage and Nutall it shows that they don’t like being stood up to . Hell hath no fury that an Ego bruised.
15 January 2010 21:44
Blogger Bob Feal-martinez said…
‘The Group rejects xenophobia, anti-Semitism and any other form of discrimination.’

Saying it and meaning it as a pledge are two totally different things as we learned from the LibLabCon over Lisbon.

Lega Nord are a far right racist group which is why the Italian people voted them in. They are said to make the BNP look positively moderate, so why didn’t Nigel invite the BNP?
And no that wasn’t a srious suggestion for those who would twist every word.
16 January 2010 08:21

To view the original comments: CLICK HERE

Praise where it is due! Congratulations to Bob Feal-Martinez who, although it took some time, has finally started to tell the truth!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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#809* – Bob Feal-martinez WAKES UP – ‘The Nikki Sinclair Affair’

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/01/2010

#809* – Bob Feal-martinez WAKES UP – ‘The Nikki Sinclair Affair’

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Bob Feal-martinez WAKES UP – ‘The Nikki Sinclair Affair’ seems to be the final straw that showed him that he had been duped and tricked into dishonesty by EUkip’s Pond Life!

Congratulations Bob, 
it is pleasant to see you telling the truth for a change:

The Nikki Sinclair Affair

Those who visit this site on a regular basis will have seen two versions of one event posted here, which the Chairman of the NEC Paul Nuttall in his statement simply doe not refer to, indeed I have repeatedly asked Douglas Denny of the NEC and others including Christopher Gill’s grandson for clarification of this visit to Nikki’s office as clearly two ‘reliable’ sources have provided two different versions.

Paul Nuttall in his condemnation of Nikki Sinclair does not mention that ‘the breach’ referred to concerns the allegation made by Nigel Farage on National television. Nikki Sinclair states quite categorically that two of the most senior figures in the party were fully aware she was a discharged bankrupt. She named these as the Party Secretary Michael Zuckerman, who also doubles as the parties legal adviser, and Clive Page, the now former Chief Press Officer for the party and formally a close confident of Nigel Farage.

It is clear for those with an open mind Nikki Sinclair, after leaving the EFD group, and my only comment about that would be that we are told Lord Pearson of Rannoch, the party leader, who has kept silent on this, fully supported Nikki Sinclair in leaving, has been subjected to a witch hunt to justify her removal from the position of PPC, and the possible expulsion from the party.

This once again indicates that it matters not that a member of 16 years standing who has donated thousands of pounds to the party, who has been in very large part responsible for a huge rise in support for UKIP in her region, has had her reputation impugned by the former leader of the party Nigel Farage, for what many have said is his personal dislike of her.

I think it is important that both sides of this story be told.

Click on the link to Paul Nuttalls statement above.

This is Nikki’s response.

Posted by Bob Feal-martinez at 10:25
To view the original article on the Officially sanctioned Boggers4UKIP site CLICK HERE of course this is pending the probability of censorship by EUkip’s lackeys – you will note my posting asking various basic questions of Stuart Parr who seemingly works for EUkip in promoting EUkip, corruption and dishonesty on the Bloggers4UKIP site CLICK HERE and will publish his childish, abusive and typical EUkip response when I have time, in which he shows just how dishonest and unpleasant EUkip lackeys are (yet again) he was unable to give an answer to a single one of my questions and felt abuse was appropriate as a response from a EUkip spokesman – no doubt he learned his skills at the knee of such liars as Douglas Denny, Mark Croucher and the like.

Those with an ability to read through the lies of such people will noter their method of twisting the truth is based upon making false assumptions and drawing incorect conclusions, presumably deliberately as I do not believe that they could be so genuinely stupid – they then answer their own dishonest interpretation or false conclusion and claim that individuals such as Niall Warry, myself and a couple of others are telling lies.

The utterly corrupt Anthony Butcher NEVER insists on acceptable provenance and denies the right of reply in defence of the lies of these sordid people, the underbelly and cockroaches of the body politic. Butcher’s false flag position ensures damage to UKIP escallating. You will note in over 800 EUkip has NEVER identified a single substantive inaccuracy in a single posting NOT ONE. It is clear who are the real liars!

Even Bob Feal-Martinez seems to have woken up. I do not require or expect an apology from him for his earlier dishonesty and abuse as it is something of a learning curve for the politically naiive and clearly ill informed – a case of give a child the encouragement of one adult and they will take on the world!

Either way – congratulations Bob it is pleasant to see you telling the truth for a change.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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