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#822* – EUkip EXPECTED TO TRY TO COBBLE TOGETHER A DISHONEST FUDGE!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 20/01/2010

#822* – EUkip EXPECTED TO TRY TO COBBLE TOGETHER A DISHONEST FUDGE!!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

EUkip ARE EXPECTED TO TRY TO COBBLE TOGETHER A DISHONEST FUDGE AS A FACE SAVER ON 01-Feb-2010! DISHONEST & INCOMPETENT LEADERSHIP IS EXPECTED TO TRY TO BLAME THE NEC!!

Hi,

I understand we can all expect another utterly dishonest fudge of events at EUkip’s NEC on 01-Feb-10 when I understand it is planned that Farage, Nuttall, Gill and others will seek to shift the blame for their dishonourable and dishonest behaviour regarding Nikki Sinclaire MEP to the NEC – when as a collection of nebishes it is clear the NEC acts as little more than dishonestly misguided puppets.

It is clear that there is no one of integrity, competence or gravitas on The NEC many of whose members have colluded on a regular basis in dishonesty and corruption and it has been noted over many years that anyone of morality, basic decency or noticeable ability has been engineered out of position leaving some of the most ghastly self serving lightweights in the British political diaspora.

Full responsibility for the outrageous behaviour of Farage, Nuttall, Gill, Pearson, Bennett and others is theirs and theirs alone – it is they who have brought EUkip into disrepute AND association with some of the most vile individuals in EU politics in the EFD. I do not believe there is any honourable action that can be taken other than accepting their resignation together with those who colluded with them including the MEPs who have had neither the judgement nor the ethics to speak out against the corruption apparent institutionalised dishonesty and undeniable lack of competent judgement.

Having, due to flagrant dishonesty, lack of professionalism and utter childish stupidity managed to so antagonise the authorities and refuse to make accomodation to remain within the law Andrew Smith the then so called treasurer, David Lott, Nigel Farage and presumably others managed to obtain a Guilty verdict and £3/4Million of debt.

That they are that stupid is proven by the Court record – you will note they lost their last case which they defended against Nikki Sinclaire and that was despite the fact that she was allegedly advised by Michael Zuckerman who has proved his duplicity and his incompetence in like measure since!

It is likely that should Sinclaire as a 42 year old elected MEP of long standing with the party were to take the party to Court for the damage that Farage, Nuttall, Gill, Pearson & Bennett have deliberately done her political career they would loose – the case being brought by Edward Macmillan-Scott in The High Court sets a clear precedent should Sinclaire opt to follow that route minded of the length ahead of her in career terms.

It is likely that when Sinclaire wins EUkip and all those liable for its debts would find themselves in a parlous situation – consider an income of £80,000+ and inflation over a 20+ years ahead claim for loss of income and loss of pension rights PLUS personal damages – maybe a worst case scenario but what would you consider a best case scenario when clearly a malicious dishonesty has apparently been orchestrated by Farage, Nuttall, Pearson, Gill, Bennett and others. Meanwhile there has been collusion by failure to speak out in defence of ethical behaviour by ALL of the other EUkip MEPs – this would seem to be gang bullying based on securing personal gain!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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#821* – EUkip were warned On 01- July – 2009

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 20/01/2010

#821* – EUkip were warned On 01- July – 2009

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

EUkip were warned On 01- July – 2009 On The Web Site That At Least ONE of Their MEPs had sufficient integrity to wish to repudiate association with the anti Jewish racists and violence of The EFD members!

Hi,

here is Nikki Sinclaire’s warning to The Faragista Fan Club and others that she will not sit with The EFD – she patiently tried to work for change but it is hardly worthwhile pandering to their needs when EUkip left much to do!

Nikki’s previous statement, Brussels, 1st July 2009
Nikki is guided by the goal and principle of the UK withdrawing from the EU.
In her work to achieve the above she will constantly be reviewing her actions and associations and will endeavour to make the right decisions.

 

EUROPE of FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY
The Group Political Platform

The Group is open to Members that subscribe to a Europe of Freedom and Democracy and acknowledge the United Nations Declaration on Human Rights and parliamentary democracy.

The Group subscribes to the following programme:

1. Freedom and co-operation among people of different States
Committed to the principles of democracy, freedom and co-operation among Nation States, the Group favours an open, transparent, democratic and accountable co-operation among sovereign European States and rejects the bureaucratisation of Europe and the creation of a single centralised European superstate.

2. More democracy and respect of People’s will
Convinced that the legitimate level for democracy lies with the Nation States, their regions and parliaments since there is no such thing as a single European people; the Group opposes further European integration (treaties and policies) that would exacerbate the present democratic deficit and the centralist political structure of the EU. The Group favours that any new treaties or any modification of the existing treaties are to be submitted to the peoples’ vote through free and fair national referenda in the Member States. The Group does believe that the legitimacy of any power comes from the will of its Peoples and their right to be free and democratically ruled.

3. Respect for Europe’s history, traditions and cultural values

Peoples and Nations of Europe have the right to protect their borders and strengthen their own historical, traditional, cultural and religious values. The Group rejects xenophobia, anti-Semitism and any other form of discrimination.

4. Respect for national differences and interests: Freedom of votes

Agreeing on embodying these principles in its proceedings, the Group respects the freedom of its delegations and Members to vote as they see fit.

19th January 2010

The Case for withdrawal

1.  
UKIP MEPs were elected to represent UKIP and to pursue the argument for EU withdrawal
We stood for election on a platform of principle and clarity. We were elected as UKIP and to fight for withdrawal from the EU. We should stay true to that. We were not elected to join to support the Parliament’s agenda and certainly not to work alongside those against withdrawal. You elected UKIP but have got EFD.

2. 
By sitting with MEPs who are against withdrawal we are compromising our case
In the eyes of the European Parliament and many observers we are seen as EFD and not UKIP. Yet all EFD members, except UKIP, are working hard to make the EU better. They do not want withdrawal. They would not allow the word ‘withdrawal’ or ‘independence’ to be used in the Group’s mission statement. We are therefore part of a coalition that waters down and even contradicts our original position. We compromise both our principles and our action.

3. 
EFD helps the EU to work; we should not be doing that
Few people in UKIP understand the extent to which the Party has been subsumed within the group. EFD wants to make the European Parliament stronger. It wants the EU to work better. It argues for constructive reform. On a day-to-day basis it often supports the introduction of directives and policies to expand EU power. The Co-presidents, Lega Nord, call for a single European policy on immigration. UKIP should be on the opposite side – arguing against reform and for abolition.

4. 
EFD includes some very strange bedfellows
The group contains parties who have a variety of extremist views which includes racism, anti-Semitism and violence. One of these parties, Lega Nord was removed from the last EU group to which UKIP belonged, Indpendence & Democracy (Ind Dem), because of their extremist views. Despite this history, they are now Co-Presidents of EFD and hold the power of veto on Nigel Farage.

Political Editor and commentator, Seamus Milne, on the Politics Show (16th January 2010) described Lega Nord as “vicious” and said that we “were in bed with some very ugly people.”

In a BBC interview, Nikki Sinclaire MEP and Mike Nattrass MEP were asked, if UKIP was not a racist party why we were linked up to parties like Lega Nord who advocated shooting and sinking ships full of immigrants and also called African immigrants ‘Bingo Bongos’? A Lega Nord member was convicted of setting alight an immigrant’s belongings, endangering their life.

5. 
EFD compromises our position both in Brussels and in Britain
UKIP has to water down its words and tactics in Brussels so as not to upset other members of EFD who take the reformist, anti-withdrawal line. And EFD will only back UKIP in Britain when UKIP promotes arguments that fall short of outright withdrawal. Leading Economics Professor, Tim Congdon stated in late 2009 that he was very disappointed to see the extent to which UKIP MEPs “had been ‘captured’ in the sense of not seeing that their job was in Britain, not in Brussels or Strasbourg”. UKIP leader, Lord Pearson also recently stated that “our role in Britain is what matters not the European Parliament.”

6. 
It is a myth that we benefit financially from EFD membership
It is claimed that Group membership brings with it money for UKIP. This is completely false. First it would be illegal to pass this money to UKIP. It is for the use of EFD and very restrictive rules apply. Secondly the budget follows MEPs whatever group they are in. If one joins the non-aligned, the EU monies allocated are slightly less but at least you can be in charge of all your allocation. In some instances, there would be fewer restrictions. For example, the UKIP logo could be prominently used with the party and MEP’s name. In the first six months of this parliament, the West Midlands’ region has not received one penny from the EFD, yet both MEPs would have had over £40,000 to use in that period had they been non-aligned.

7.  
Being in EFD gets us more media coverage
Neither the public nor most journalists have ever heard of EFD. Our media coverage results from what UKIP, its MEPs and campaigners do and say. When Nigel appears on TV, it is as UKIP. It should also be noted that Tory MEP, Daniel Hannan received more press attention as a non-aligned member than Nigel Farage did when they both attacked Gordon Brown.

8.  
Because the EFD group is a precursor to a full Pan European political party
The current proposal on the table for UKIP MEPs in Brussels is for UKIP to join such a party to conform to the EU plan to entrench the federalist Euro-state:a President, a Foreign Secretary, Flag, Anthem, Police Force, Army, Parliament, MEPs and pan-European political parties. We should do as the electorate told us to do and SAY NO to European Union and to those apparatus that help them to remove our sovereignty and our British identity.

To view the original of the eminently sensible comments above at source:
CLICK HERE



Minded of the undertaking above:


4. Respect for national differences and interests: Freedom of votes
Agreeing on embodying these principles in its proceedings, the Group respects the freedom of its delegations and Members to vote as they see fit.

It would seem based upon the unacceptable behaviour of the Co-President of this squalid little group that the rules are not considered valid or binding on members such as Farage or Nuttall as they are in flagrant breech of this rule in seeking to FORCE Nikki Sinclaire to vote as they Demand – This also puts them Ultra Vires relative to Article 3 of the EU rules on voting on which item 4 above is based.

It is not expected that they will have the integrity to accept responsibility for their actions lacking the basic fundamentals of leadership skills – we can expect them dishonestly to seek to blame others for their unacceptable and utterly incompetent behaviour – presumably since they are the easiest to blame these cowards will seek to blame the idiots in EUkip NEC – now that there is no one of merit left on the NEC who has not colluded in corruption they have little ground to protest!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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#820* – MEP takes legal action

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 20/01/2010

#820* – MEP takes legal action

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

MEP takes legal action WHICH SETS A VERY DANGEROUS PRECEDENT FOR EUkip!

Hi,

Perhaps before Nigel Farage, Malcolm Lord Pearson and Paul Nuttall start to try to seek to shift the blame to the NEC for the idiotic decision they made and were responsible for as the leadership they should consider the risks.

You will note that Nikki Sinclaire MEP who Farage has now twice attacked on British National TV and who Pearson has shamefully betrayed and Nuttall has written in detail attacking and of course the ghastly old failure, liar and cheat Christopher Gill has so clearly attacked, and incited others to act criminally against by ROBBERY, and debarred from entry to a meeting of her own committee – perhaps they should read the article from The Telegraph below on Edward Macmillan-Scott.

E.M-S. was born in 1949 and thus will be past retirement age at the net EU elections which will clearly ameliorate his damages but of course when Sinclaire takes EUkip to Court for their unlawful action she can rightly claim at 42 that EUkip’s action has blighted her political career – have you noticed her salary and its increments over the last few years then consider just the basic MEP salary she stands to loose due to Farage, Nuttall, Pearson, Gill, Bennett and any others they instructed such as the NEC members, for 20 years and the pension that would give – That is assuming that the Courts find that she could not in the next 25 years rise to higher office!

MEP takes legal action against Conservatives

Edward McMillan-Scott is mounting a High Court legal challenge after being expelled from the Tories for defying the Conservative leadership over its European alliance with “extremists”.
By Bruno Waterfield in Brussels
14 Jan 2010
The rebel MEP, a Tory for 43 years, was expelled for opposing David Cameron’s decision to form a European Union grouping with the right-wing Polish Law and Justice Party (PiS).
The Yorkshire MEP, 60, a former Tory leader in the European Parliament, has been expelled from the Conservative Party for five years, ruling him out of standing again in EU-wide elections in June 2014. Mr McMillan-Scott is appealing to be reinstated as a member of the party.
“This is not about me: it is about the values of the next British government,” he said.
He is furious that the only previous five year ban imposed on a parliamentarian was that imposed on Lord Archer after he was imprisoned for perjury in 2001.
Den Dover, a former Tory MEP, was only expelled for a two-year period in 2008 for his refusal to pay back “unduly” claimed expenses payments worth over £538,000, he also noted.
“In the context of the Westminster expenses scandal, for which no Conservative was expelled, this will be seen by many as a serious case of double standards. The party seeks to prevent my candidacy in the next European election merely for taking a stand on matters of personal conscience. This raises very serious ethical, legal and political issues,” he said.
A Tory spokesman said: “He is no longer a member of the party and as far as we are concerned the matter is closed.”
The MEP’s internal appeal against expulsion was rejected by the Conservatives in December and further legal challenges have threatened to expose Tory divisions over Europe.
Mr McMillan-Scott defied party bosses in July by standing against and beating Michal Kaminski, a Polish PiS MEP, for the post of European Parliament Vice-President because, he claimed, the Pole had an extremist past.
Mr Kaminski, a senior right-winger close to Poland’s President, is now leader of the Conservative and Reform Group, formed by the Tories after Mr Cameron took his MEPs out of the mainstream, pro-EU, European People’s Party (EPP).
The MEP, with 25 years experience in Brussels, hinted at disunity at the highest levels of the Conservatives and said that Mr Cameron did not have “sufficient experience” of how the EU worked before imposing the decision to leave the EPP, made during his Tory leadership campaign.
“I don’t think he understood the implications of it. He did not discuss it, he merely told William Hague to get on with and to form a new group,” he said.
During his legal challenge, Mr McMillan-Scott will continue to sit as a non-attached or independent MEP and will not rejoin the EPP, he said.

To view the original of this article CLICK HERE

It does very much look as if
Nigel Farage – unelected defacto party leader (having resigned), who in his arrogant self important and utterly dishonest presumption has stolen various offices and privileges he finds financially beneficial eg:

Malcolm Lord Pearson, Zionist, Islamaphobic Titular Leader of a clearly dysfunctional EUkip.

Christopher Gill, failed ex Tory MP – untrustworth and duplicitous see:
CLICK HERE

Paul Nuttall, Farage placed him here as chairman to do his bidding!

Derek Bennett works in Mike Nattrass’ fire place shop and is salaried by the EU as one of Mike Nattrasse’s staff.

Farage, Pearson, Gill & Nattrass will all be spining for all it is worth and the NEC will try to pretend their actions were lawfull and that they were willing to make the sacrifice again if it was not fully registered! They will show themselves as they try to claim a different cover up – all will claim that they had no part in the situation but that the Fabric is far beyond explanation!

They can NOT pass the Buck!

So what will it be?
Will they resign?
Will they try to blame the NEC?
Will they try to save face?
Will they be bright enough to understand?

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

Posted in UKIP | Leave a Comment »