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Archive for October 19th, 2009

#668* – HAVE EUkip LEADERSHIP TROUSERED THE FUNDS?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/10/2009

#668* – HAVE EUkip LEADERSHIP TROUSERED THE FUNDS?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

HAVE EUkip LEADERSHIP TROUSERED THE FUNDS? SADLY IT DOES LOOK AS IF THEY HAVE BEEN STEALING MONWY ON AN INDUSTRIAL SCALE!

Nigel Farage (25 July 1999):
“You will remember, that right through, that we said we are not going on the gravy train; that we are the only people who are intending, annually, to publish so that the public can inspect them, our expense accounts, our allowance accounts, and the excess that we get – the excess that we are forced to take – particularly on travelling allowances, we are going to be putting into a trust fund and that money will be used to help victims of the European Union in our country, so I do reject the allegation that we’re on the gravy train and there’s certainly no chance of the three of us going native.”

In the light of the statement/undertaking by Nigel Farage:
“a trust fund and that money will be used to help victims of the European Union in our country…”

A. Who were the appointed Trustees?

B. Is the Trust still running?
C. Is there a connection between this Trust & The Isle of Man Trust called ‘Farage Educational Trust?
D. Who were the beneficiaries of this Trust?

E. Who ketpt the accounts of this Trust?

F. Can we be assured that any such trustee or bean counterr is not a liar, dishonest or corrupt as the unprofessional bean counters Andrew Smith and his chum Michael McGough have been proven to be?

G. Have the Trust’s accounts passed public scrutiny?

H. Since it is likely well over £1Million has accrued in this trust from travel to and from the EU how much is still in the Trust?

I. In the light of the fact that there would seem to have been no consequential disbursements to ‘victims of the European Union in our country’ is the Trust Fund professionally managed to take advantage of interest rates?

J. When is it expected that the Trust Fund will be distributed?

K. To whom do the trustees intend to distribute the Trust’s money and when?

Thank you in anticipation of your help in clearing up these questions regarding publicly acquired funding as a political party for a Trust Fund  paid from taxes levied on the peoples.

Let us continue with 10 simple questions:

01. How much money was stolen from the £250,000 of tax payers’ money provided to EUkip for a petition which never took place?

02. Whose pocket did the money wind up in?

03. Where is the accounting for the numerous lotteries which EUkip has held? Did this run to £Millions and if not what proof is there of this – was the money trousered and by whom?

04. What was £211,000 of unaccounted money listed as other expenses (over 50% of the income) used for and is there ANY proof that it was not stolen and wound up in someone’s pocket?

05. Since it is an openly stated FACT as attested to in public and reported in the press by David Bannerman, chairman at the time (albeit unelected) that less than 15% of all the money that was collected from the public and members of EUkip by Ashford in its various metamorphosese EVER reached EUkip – Exactly howmany £Millions were collected in (Note Farage is on public record stating it was one of the most successfull things EUkip ever did).
How Much was collected?

06. EXACTLY howmuch was perloined in one way or another and into whose trouser pockets did it go?

 
07. Nigel Farage, Michael Holmes & Jeffrey Titford set up a fund called, as I recal, ‘A Defence Fund’ into which they agreed to pay all over paid expenses ie £700 paid for airline tickets @£40 to use but one example as quoted by Farage.
With some £650 reimbursement on this alone and with 3 MEPs over 5 years that would amount to some £1,800+ a week or based on a 30 week year and no other travel! Thus some £270,000 – who trousered this money?
IF the payments office banned them paying funds in this way – Who trousered the money they were ordered to keep?

 
08. When and where was the announcement that this fund had been closed down and who continued to trouser the money at the rate of about £1,800 a week and from 2004 to 2009 at the rate one must assume of £650+ average (minded Farage lives the closest to Brussels) thus with 12 MEPs a sum of £7,800+ a week thus based upon a 30 week year some £1,170,000  – who trousered this money?

09. It is no secret that Graham Booth laundered money through his credit card machine in Torquay that had been donated to EUkip via Ashford – can you advise exactly howmuch was involved was it in fact £Millions since most donations to a call centre are presumably by credit card – where has this reflected in EUkip’s accounts and as seemingly it was only a part of the under 15% that was not in some way seemingly perloined who trousered this money and howmuch?

10. EXACTLY how much money was raised by EUkip Wine World and where does it reflect in the accounts? Has this money also been trousered especially in the light of the fact tjhat the manager of this apparent scam is facing criminal charges related to his EUkip job which he held until March 2009 and that he has also boasted to the media that he has over 1,000 bottles of fine wine he has acquired (his words as I recall) since he became an MEP!

Let us see if the liars and cheats who have been trying to distort the truth regarding the private funding of the private defence fund to aid those seeking to clean up EUkip, which has at ALL stages been legitimately and honestly handled in accord with the initial apeal and to the satisfaction of all involved.

Now let us see these odious EUkip cheats who have acted resolutely and dedicatedly in a manner that can be shown to be serially dishonest and anti UKIP, are they able to put direct, succint answers to these questions which seemingly show a hole in the accounts that could amount to upwards of £10 Million trousered – no wonder they were willing to lie and cheat to cover such a level of apparent criminality.

At the moment on a rough count I have something over 50 similar questions that require answers from EUkip, a publicly funded body utilising and seemingly stealing tax payers’ and members of a Public Organisation’s money on a near industrial basis.

Let us see just where  transparency, probity, integrity and honesty morally and ethically reside.

Perhaps one of the many readers of this blog  will have the integrity to post it onto the Forum, from which I am dishonestly and corruptly barred based upon the lies of Paul Nuttall EUkip’s unelected Chairman, Anthony Butcher the owner of the Forum who with Brendan Padmore carry out his bidding and provide a platform to smear my name and lie about me.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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#667* – Anti UKIP CLAQUE SEEM DETERMINED TO DESTROY THE PARTY

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/10/2009

#667* – Anti UKIP CLAQUE SEEM DETERMINED TO DESTROY THE PARTY

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Anti UKIP CLAQUE SEEM DETERMINED TO DESTROY THE PARTY!

Hi,

It becomes more apparent by the minute that EUkip and its leadership are the greatest enemy of UKIP the party has ever had.

We note regardless of the endless warnings, clear explanations and long term support from principled UKIP members and supporters the dishonest, corrupt self seving anti UKIP claque are determined to destroy the party.

It isn’t just people like Gollom, Smith, McGough, Septik, Batten, Clark, Reeve, Duffy, Croucher, Death Rowe, the foul mouthed Fuller, Malcolm Wood, Nuttall, Towler, Padmore, Deny, Butcher and their ilk who as an anti UKIP claque supporting the dishonesty and corruption and ultimate betrayal of UKIP it is clearly they who are anti UKIP and they who are bringing the party into such disrepute with their dishonest lies, internet bullying, duplicitous smears and low life behaviour without exception it is the leadership and their paid praise singers, who are destroying UKIP.

WHEN IN A HOLE STOP DIGGING
CLEARLY TOO STUPID TO LEARN
BY THEIR PROVEN MISTAKES:
Monday, 19th October 2009


The UK Independence Party is stunned and disappointed by today’s Court of Appeal judgement in favour of the Electoral Commission.


UKIP had already achieved a partial victory in the case, as Judge Tim Workman ruled in August 2007 that the ommission of donor Alan Bown’s name from the electoral register of 2005 was “a genuine and inadvertent error”.


The Party will now be seeking leave to appeal.


The financial ramifications of the judgement will be significant, with the legal costs on top of the £350,000 forfeiture an added burden to the Party which does not have the funds available to meet the debt at this time.


UKIP Leader Nigel Farage said: “Something extraordinary is going on here. It is acceptable under the rules for Lakshmi Mittal, the Indian businessman, to give millions of pounds to the Labour Party and for the Liberal Democrats to be allowed to keep £2.4 million from an impermissible donor who has since received a lengthy prison sentence, yet the Electoral Commission goes on kicking the smallest boy in the playground!”

Farage has just been on TV  trying to blame everyone but himself for his utter stupidity and the serial dishonesty of the party under his leadership.

The Electoral Commission is NOT picking on EUkip – they have clearly negotiated with other parties aver incorrect donations.

To pretend that EUkip is being picked on and also to deliberately try to embarrass the original Judge by pretending that he in some way found against The Electoral Commission is utterly dishonest.

It is clear to one and all that Mr. Justice Tim Workshop found and constructed a loophole that might give him a way to offer a lighter Forfeiture – which was very fortunate for EUkip as El.Com. would have found this acceptable having set their legal prescedent, but no: the politically inept, who I have ALWAYS said and shown were without any recognisable OQ (Officer Qualities) and bereft of any of the skills and expertise of leadership insisted on making fools of themselves leaving The Electoral Commission with no alternative but to ensure they were found against in two further Courts.

Despite ALL the evidence and now the FOURTH Court result showing Guilt Farage is still – as ever the performing monkey – digging an ever deeper hole.

Does this idiot of a man have such arrogance he doesn’t know when to sorry and try to ‘cut a deal’?

Farage admitted on TV that this matter could cost upwards of £3/4M – a figure of which I and others have constantly warned!

I understand this £3/4Million is in fact the responsibility of the NEC jointly and severally. How fortunate that Dr. Eric Edmond was thrown off having asked direct questions as to his liability – was this perhaps the reason that Jill Seymour who, pleasant though she may be, is not the brightest of bunnies quit the NEC was her wealthy husband unwilling to stand in the firing line to take the hit? Oh well assuming it is treated on the basis of ‘jointly’ that will cut out at around £80K each however if ‘severally’ someone could find themselves awaking wioth a £3/4Million!! I understand.

That is with the sum that must be Forfeit £367,000 + Costs of hearings to date EACH & EVERY ONE resulting in a Guilty verdict!

It was Einstein I believe who said: ‘To keep repeating the same experiment and expect a different answer is the first sign of madness’.

Now perhaps you can understand why so many of us have seen through Nigel Farage’s unarguable madness!

He has now repeated all the same lies and implications and is trying to commit the party to a further Appeal – is he determined to cost EUkip £1Million as a nice round figure – let us hope he is paying the £1Million out of the funds he has gained from his membership of EUkip.

Why did not Geoffrey Kingscott call a halt to this entire fiasco by speaking out and exposing Andrew Smith’s original dishonesty that clearly he was party to as shown in the ‘e’Mail in the previous blog CLICK HERE
Had Geoffrey Kingscott acquitted his duty as returning officer in the leadership election none of this costly farce would have come about but he was willing to turn a blind eye to the lies of Croucher, Fuller, Moran, Lott, Malcolm Wood and others who saw potential for personal gain by telling outright proven lies to steal the leadership for Farage.

Had Geoffrey Kingscott acquitted his duty the lies against Richard Suchorzewski claiming him to be a homosexual supporter of the BNP would never have held sway – UKIP could well now be a credible force in British politics taking every advantage of such abilities as Farage indubitably has but benefitting from the competent hand of a trained and experienced leader with extensive financial and administrative experience.

It becomes ever more apparent why Farage wishes to jump ship but his ego and self interest is so great that it seems he would rather destroy the Party than admit, what we all know, he was wrong and way out of his depth.

Nigel Farage just say sorry – get rid of the anti UKIP claque around you that has dragged you ever deeper into this mire of your own making and let us see if it is possible to resurect the UKIP.

As with an alcoholic sometimes it is only when they find themselves penniless and covered in ordure in the gutter that they realise they must turn their lives around and take it one step at a time.

Nigel remember the last time you found yourself drunk in the gutter and spent 8 months in hospital learning to walk again!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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#666* – SMITH, LOTT & FARAGE INCUR £1/2 > 1M LIABILITY

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/10/2009

#666* – SMITH, LOTT & FARAGE INCUR £1/2 > 1M LIABILITY

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

AS WARNED Andrew SMITH, David LOTT & Nigel FARAGE with John WITTAKER’s HELP INCUR £1/2 > 1M LIABILITY THROUGH DISHONEST & BRAGADOCCIO!

Hi,

In 2001 UKIP received a donation of £50K from Sir Jack Hayward, Chairman of Liverpool Football Club.
MEA CULPA CORRECTION
Sir Jack Haywood was Chairman NOT of Liverpool but of Wolverhampton Wanderers – woops, soory. Corrected within 3 minutes of a phone call that advised me of my error.

I’m glad to see my blog is read in detail such that even the minor details are checked for accuracy!

The donation was from a joint account of which a signator was not a UK resident on the electoral roll. John de Roeke who was treasurer at the time immediately negotiated with The Electoral Commission who bent over backwards to assist in finding ways to help as they appreciated no crime was intended.

Eventually it was agreed that UKIP could get further good publicity from this donation by handing it back to Sir Jack. A third tranche of excellent publicity was gained when Lady made good the shortfall shortly afterwards.

The Electoral Comission was more than happy with this arrangement, particularly since as a result John de Roeke took the very sensible precaution of adding a box which it was mandatory to complete, on all donation forms, for the donor’s electoral roll number.

NO ONE TO BLAME BUT THEMSELVES

Nigel Farage’s weenie waggling, whinging and pretence of ‘establishment conspiracy’ trying to blame everyone else, in EUkip’s present plight is utterly implausible and shows better than any other single thing why EUkip are unfit for office of any nature.

Can you imagine ANYONE being so inept, dishonest and downright stupid as to not only break the law to the tune of over £367,697 but to make no effort to correct their error despite numerous warnings and suggestions is nothing more than crass but the undeniable lies and dishonesty show just how unsuitable EUkip are for ANY political responsibility with or without their racist, extremist, sexually intollerant, xenophobic bed fellows in their pan EU Political Party group in the EFD.

Many will remember, and it is easily confirmed, that I brought the FACT that Alan Bown was not on the electoral roll to the attention of the then Chairman David Lott and also Nigel Farage and John de Roeke who had unbeknown to me, at that stage, been replaced by the duplicitous, unprofessional and thoroughly dishonest so called accountant Andrew Smith.

Largely due to Andrew Smith’s (SEE BELOW) dishonesty and corruption and clear failure of duty EUkip was brought before the Courts and found guilty. Failure to act responsibly on the part of John Wittaker undeniably exacerbated the matter, one can hardly blame David Lott, guilty as he was, as he was probably too stupid to understand his own incompetence!

Farage however did a great deal to make a bad situation worse and when EUkip was let off incredibly lightly in the Courts in the first case against them with a forfeiture of a mere £18K as I recal the idiot made an utter fool of himself and the party by pretending they had beated The Electoral Commission and shown them to be dishonest – despite warnings he was too stupid to realise that the prescedent had been set and an equitable and survivable solution found.

Endless derision and attacks on The Electoral Commission led to Farage forcing them to appeal the decision which they did via first a Judicial Review which despite the posturing of Bob Feel Martinis and others was escorriating and has led to todays decision.

EUkip have as a result of the direct incompetence of David Lott, the arrogance of Wittaker, the dishonesty and unprofessional stupidity of Andrew Smith and the outright political idiocy of Farage today found themselves adjudged Guilty yet again and ordered to forfeit in excess of £360K and I understand costs could run to doubling this loss!

What an inept position for a political party to find itself in – clearly unfit for purpose!

You will find the following news reports from the MSM substantive:

BBC: CLICK HERE

The Times: CLICK HERE

Politics.co.UK: CLICK HERE

The Telegraph: CLICK HERE

Reuters: CLICK HERE

‘e’ Politics: CLICK HERE

Andrew Smith’s (SEE BELOW) dishonesty and corruption and clear failure of duty:

From: “Smith Epping” To: “Geoffrey Kingscott” Cc: “Nigel Farage (UKIP)” ; “Douglas Denny”
Subject: Treasurers meeting




Thank you Geoffrey for organising the meeting. We need to give the Electoral Commission every reason to believe we are serious about compliance, in order to provide the next Party Treasurer with a good story to tell when we next fail to meet the statutory requirements.They should be invited to any big regional meeting and to Party Conference to speak at least to a break-out meeting to Treasurers.

It would have been a suitable event for prospective Party Treasurers to learn a lot about what the job entailed. Were any of them there?

I thought the practical points which emerged, in the absence of the Electoral Commission, were a lesson for the NEC on what their priorities should be. The branches are crying out for better admin and they are full of good ideas.


I hope the NEC takes good notice of your report of the meeting.


AS

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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#665* – VOTE CAMERON GET LISBON!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/10/2009

#665* – VOTE CAMERON GET LISBON!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

VOTE CAMERON UNDER THE CONTROL OF MAUDE, HURD, HESSELTINE, CLARK & YOU WILL GET LISBON!!

I have no doubt Cameron is untrustworthy,
&
Doesn’t Know Which Way To Go
but the only people who can
‘vote for Cameron’
are those in his constituency.
& THESE
Are His Front Bench Advisors!

BUT
The Real Decisions Are Made By
His Shadowy Puppet Masters

Douglas Hurd: The New World Order
Kenneth Clark: The Bilderbergers
Michael Hesseltine: forGlobal Governance
Francis Maude: The Trilateralists
ALL

Working For The EU
&
Betraying These United Kingdoms
Backed by an army of EU funded traitors:
Leon Britten
Niel Kinnock
Peter Mandelson
Glynnys Kinnock
&
Between 1/3 & 1/2 of the House of Lords
Draw UNDECLARED EU Incomes
To Betray Britain.

THE REST OF US GET TO CHOOSE OTHER INDIVIDUALS.

As I’ve said before, look at the CHARACTER of those standing locally. If you can’t trust any of them, find someone you can trust and get a grassroots movement going backing that person.

Be prepared for a dirty fight: it’s about our freedom, for possibly the last time pre- civil war. There will probably not be another opportunity in our lifetime, before major bloodshed.

. . .
I would address the issue of the BNP, however I suspect Griffin will cook his own goose on Thursday. He is a fool to do Question Time (which is itself designed to destroy reputations), and, I suspect, is about to find out how much damage one broadcast can do.
. . .

So regarding UKIP then: Farage is a clever man, but a coward. If he had guts, he’d stand against Cameron, not the speaker. UKIP’s MP hopefuls ought to be challenging him to do it, if they believe they are a clear choice against the Tories, but the reality is that they have been ‘bred’ to be political numpties, as their leadership cannot afford to leave the EU.

UKIP may have one moral-high-ground point in leaving the EU, but otherwise it has nothing that makes it actually electable. This fact was put emphatically to the Knapman leadership whilst I was still in the party.

There was even a 30-page survey of every candidate and agent after the last general election, to collect data on their campaigns, their experiences, and what the voters thought of UKIP – direct feedback of the most urgent kind, you might think. The leadership wasn’t the slightest bit interested in the data, let alone using it to shape a better party, and as I write, the original information is quietly mouldering away somewhere.

UKIP is not now AND HAS NEVER BEEN about running an effective political machine. In 2001 they could have planned for 2005. In 2005, as I know from bitter experience, there was no interest in learning from mistakes nor acting like a grown-up party in any way (“policies ‘n’stuff, mister”). Neither is there now.

Farage was all the while pulling the strings back then, and now UKIP is his creature do not expect any better political thinking to emerge. The man feels threatened by intellectuals and is a self-serving control freak.

What would make UKIP electable? Only the same things that make people believe in and vote for in other parties — people and principles. And a damn good political machine, such as the Lib Dems have.

So do you know what UKIP’s political philosophy is? Do you know what it stands for, morally, philosophically, economically, ecologically or sociologically? Can you name three UKIP men of stature, whom you would trust with a wad of banknotes? Neither can I, and neither can the rest of the electorate.

On that basis only idiots would vote for them, and mercifully they are in short enough supply so as to be electorally insignificant.

This debacle: the lack of political philosophy, planning, organisation and strategy, is unambiguously Farage’s fault, and it is the reason why UKIP will waste yet more political hard work in the coming campaign. It will fight to no purpose save damaging a few Tory hopefuls’ chances by splitting the vote.

Sadly, the romantics in the independence movement will still support the party and the journalists will still fete it, because Lord Sutch is dead and UKIP might hurt the Tory renaissance. Measured against its declared aims however, UKIP’s overall impact will be either nil or negative.

If Farage stands against Bercow, he *might* win, otherwise the party is unlikely to return anyone. If he *is* elected by Buckingham voters, it will be because of the grandstanding opportunity the expenses row gives him, and the fact his record will be unknown to most of them, NOT because of any inherent worth in UKIP.

This is why you must find honourable local individuals, and support them and fight intelligently and viciously for them, or be prepared to say goodbye to your nation.

Farage will not help you, as he has no interest in doing so, and anyway he cannot.

This was written with a seniorEUkip Branch Chairman of long standing who has given up on what the Party he helped try to build has collapsed into, beset with bullying, dishonesty, corruption and self serving lies to gain personal enrichment or perceived agrandisement.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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#664* – TRY TO FOLLOW THE WRIGGLING & DUPLICITY OF EUkip

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/10/2009

#664* – TRY TO FOLLOW THE WRIGGLING & DUPLICITY OF EUkip

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

TRY TO FOLLOW THE WRIGGLING & DUPLICITY OF EUkip WHO HAVE UTTERLY FAILED TO DO ANYTHING MORE THAN SHOW THEMSELVES AS VICIOUS, VINDICTIVE, CORRUPT & DUPLICITOUS!

Hi,
over some 600+ Postings on what was EUkip Forum with the aid and assistance of corrupt moderation and a dishonest and corrupt owner of the forum Anthony Butcher EUkip’s duplicitous accolytes have wriggled, squirmed, misrepresented and lied in their desparation to deflect attention from the venal corruption of  their puppet masters. They have sheltered behind some of the most revolting personalities willing readily to lie such as Mark Croucher, who many will remember as  the piece of filth who set out to lie and disemble within EUkip and is one of the greatest and most damaging members of the party having brought it into disrepute with his close association with the vile extremist pro EU communist organisation Searchlight – openly sharing information with them and clearly supporting their anti democratic aims and their accolytes of UAF.

Then we have liars like Michael McGough who have needled and wheedled cheated their coleagues and lied for gain. Meanwhile trying desperately to clear the ordure from their image by seeking to shift blame to others – he has utterly failed in his juvenile name calling to achieve anything more than revulsion amongst those he has to deal with. His own constituency of Harlow went so far as to advise him that if he attended their meeting he would be asked to leave – rather than accept his dishonesty had brought this about he sought to smear others and try to paint the genuine concerns of decent honest members  as something other than disgust at the corruption in EUkip which he was party to and even an instigator.

Much of the vile behaviour on the forum has been carried out by EUkip supporters too ashamed to put their name to their actions or so universally despised as to have no reputation to defend.

I will quote just one cowardly entry from the Forum as an example:
A slime who hides their dishonest misrepresentation behind the pseudonym of Skeptic:
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QUOTE Skeptic:

Oh well this is extraordinary isn’t it? The defenders of transparency, honesty, integrity and probity have confirmed their inherent dishonesty. What-kins’ original appeal now must surely be re-read; allow me…

As you will note NO WHERE has ANY dishonesty been shown by those involved in what was called ‘the defence fund’ despite the desparate attempts to distract from what seems to have been £Millions syphoned off of EUkip, by their leadership.

Indeed it is well worth re-reading the initial text as suggested with the realisation that there was never any intent to do other than was suggested in the apeal – & I would like to thank those who had sufficient integrity that they made efforts to TRY to clean up EUkip to TRY to make it electable in its own right – which it most clearly isn’t, having had to depend on the dustbin vote of objectors to corruption in Westminster – largely indifferent to the industrialised corruption of EUkip & The EU.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Lance Whatkins

May I make an apeal – I am aware that Alison & John are young with financial responsibilities and upholding decency in UKIP in the Eastern Region and defending UKIP and themselves against the corruption endemic in The NEC is proving a burden to them as they are ensuring that they do not put a foot wrong, as it might put them at risk, and that legal advice must perforce be good and is thus not cheap.

Alison & John West are fighting this battle to save UKIP fom being subsumed and I believe that all who value freedom should make a contribution relative to their means and just how much they value liberty, honesty and integrity.

I shall be asking Major Niall Warry (Green Jacket Rtd.), who is beyond reproach to act as the collecting point and issue receipts for any and all monies contributed, if he will be so good as to do so, should this not suit YOU then I would ask you to make your contribution through either Dr, Eric Edmond or Mrs. Petrina Voelker who are both of utmost probity and the three can liase.

Thank you – any monies over and above the legitimate costs of Alison & Juhn will be contributed to the fund to clean up EUkip and re-establish probity, morality and integrity – The UKIP that was stolen from the members.

Major Warry, Doctor Edmond & Mrs Voelker together with the Wests will form the steering committee to liase on projects over and above the reasonable and legitimate needs of Alison & John.

Sometimes honesty costs!

Astonishing isn’t it that EUkip and its grubby little goffers should try to portray this as in some way dishonest.

I do concede that with hindsight I would have been well advised not to act alone and suggest a concept wherein I suggested others to participate.
That Petrina felt that due to her ‘legal’ position and that of her husband it would be unwise and unhelpfull to participate in a private fund raising effort for such a cause morally sensible as it might be – I believe she was right and of course having dealt more closely with the filth that is EUkip’s leadership and supporters she may well have had something of a gut feeling they would lie, cheat and tennaciously try to destroy any honest endeavour that exposed the truth.

As for Eric Edmond – there is no doubt in my mind that he accepted the role as proffered but in that no dations were channelled through him I am happy to accept he made an honest mistake of believing he was no longer involved. That it seems prety clear to all that he failed to tell anyone is not I think a point of dispute and that I had a false ‘e’Mail for him which he chose to play a Croucher style game of not clarifying is possibly in hind sight regretable!

Other than this once again may I thank those who made the effort to contribute to what I still consider the morally right thing to have done. The subsequent mud slinging from the EUkip gutter speaks volumes of the catastrophic state the Party is in and just how right it was of honest people to club together to TRY, however insignificantly, to support those who took the moral high ground at cost to themselves.

QUOTE Skeptic:

And now we have confirmation from Niall Warry…

Indeed we do and I can endorse his statement and unlike Croucher, McGough, Farage and their ilk both Niall & I are able to claim with certainty that we have NEVER set out to lie, cheat, dissemble or corrupt and for all the endless attacks by some of the most sordid individuals associated with British politics and with over 1,000 Blog entries and several 1,000 postings on forums and as many ‘e’Mails over many years as yet no one has EVER been able to establish a single solitary witting dishonesty or lie that I have been shown to have made.

I think we can most safely vouch for the integrity of Niall Warry against any and all of EUkip’s duplicitous and corrupt leadership  team their hirelings and praise singers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall Warry
Being the only custodian only I really know the details of the DF…


No money was paid to anyone for their court costs. Incidental expenses is another matter.

This is an indisputable statement of fact however hard EUkip and its pond dredgings may wish to paint it – in fact their antics have done much to show just how unwise it would be to permit them any access to authority or money – neither of which should they be trusted with.

QUOTE Skeptic:

It is absolutely staggering that only now we are getting closer to the truth from the defenders of the truth! The original appeal made by Whatkins has now been seen to be the scam that it truly is. If we are to believe Warry – and let’s face it, none of the Four Horsemen (Whatkins, Warry, West and Edmond) have given us any reason to believe them – Whatkins original appeal made on this forum and on his blog was totally mis-advertised with Edmonds and Holdsworth falsely advertised as custodians and not only that, NOT ONE PENNY has gone towards Capt’n Vexatious and his legal costs.

For all the efforts to distort the truth you will note name calling is about the sum total of their achievement. The original apeal made on the Forum was exactly as it stated and not one word of it was other than true.

Eric Edmond remained a custodian by dint of failure to state otherwise and that he did not find himself to be a conduit is a matter of total irrelevance – it seems those who donated were happy to donate via Niall Warry or to fund individuals of their choice directly. Petrina announced clearly, as did I within some 48hours that she was not able to participate so to desperately paint this as some great cullomny is dishonesty all too typical of EUkip and the filth who so often use underhand methods to seek self enrichment or dishonest portrayal in their wake.

QUOTE Skeptic:

Warry can blabber all he wants about all custodians being happy with the funds eventual destination but now we can all see that the appeal was falsely advertised.

Without doubt it is clear that Skeptic is not only a coward but a liar and shown to be – no wonder anonimity is the only sheild they have as clearly the truth is no sheild for them!

QUOTE Skeptic:

Absolutely sickening. These people think they own honesty, they own transparency and they own integrity. They do nothing of the sort. I hope that our fellow forum members can now see this clique of anti-UKIPpers for what they really are – wholly dishonest.

Skeptik has made it abundantly clear that Niall warry, Petrina Holdsworth, Geoffrey Collier, John West, Eric Edmond and myself have every right to claim the high ground, ring fenced by honesty, transparency, and integrity having acted ethically and with morality whilst being lied about, villified and misrepresented by proven liars and their sock puppets who shelter their venal dishonesty behind their anonimity.

Perhaps Skeptic you would be honourable enough to declare with clarity your identity and why you have seen fit to distort and smear an honest and decent action taken based on principle and belief – an action that was taken with absolute transparency in that you have gone so far as to dishonestly dismantle the apeal that transparently and with good intent set out to make clear both the aim, the method and the intent – with such clarity as was required since it was made abundantly clear to any private donor that they should contact and make sure they were entirely happy with the process of the fund.

Having been proved liars one wonders if those distracting from EUkip’s corruption, dishonesty and self enrichment might be prepared to put their name to simple honest answers to a few questions rather than paint corruption where clearly none exists on a private matter of private funds which were handled in EXACTLY the way that it was clearly stated they would be.

Inventing further ways to twist the truth will merely show EUkip ever more clearly for the filth they really are.

Let us start out with 10 simple questions:

01. How much money was stolen from the £250,000 of tax payers’ money provided to EUkip for a petition which never took place?

02. Whose pocket did the money wind up in?

03. Where is the accounting for the numerous lotteries which EUkip has held? Did this run to £Millions and if not what proof is there of this – was the money trousered and by whom?

04. What was £211,000 of unaccounted money listed as other expenses (over 50% of the income) used for and is there ANY proof that it was not stolen and wound up in someone’s pocket?
05. Since it is an openly stated FACT as attested to in public and reported in the press by David Bannerman, chairman at the time (albeit unelected) that less than 15% of all the money that was collected from the public and members of EUkip by Ashford in its various metamorphosese EVER reached EUkip – Exactly howmany £Millions were collected in (Note Farage is on public record stating it was one of the most successfull things EUkip ever did).
How Much was collected?

06. EXACTLY howmuch was perloined in one way or another and into whose trouser pockets did it go?

07. Nigel Farage, Michael Holmes & Jeffrey Titford set up a fund called, as I recal, ‘A Defence Fund’ into which they agreed to pay all over paid expenses ie £700 paid for airline tickets @£40 to use but one example as quoted by Farage.
With some £650 reimbursement on this alone and with 3 MEPs over 5 years that would amount to some £1,800+ a week or based on a 30 week month and no other travel! Thus some £270,000 – who trousered this money?
IF the payments office banned them paying funds in this way – Who trousered the money they were ordered to keep?

 
08. When and where was the announcement that this fund had been closed down and who continued to trouser the money at the rate of about £1,800 a week and from 2004 to 2009 at the rate one must assume of £650+ average (minded Farage lives the closest to Brussels) thus with 12 MEPs a sum of £7,800+ a week thus based upon a 30 week year some £1,170,000  – who trousered this money?

09. It is no secret that Graham Booth laundered money through his credit card machine in Torquay that had been donated to EUkip via Ashford – can you advise exactly howmuch was involved was it in fact £Millions since most donations to a call centre are presumably by credit card – where has this reflected in EUkip’s accounts and as seemingly it was only a part of the under 15% that was not in some way seemingly perloined who trousered this money and howmuch?

10. EXACTLY how much money was raised by EUkip Wine World and where does it reflect in the accounts? Has this money also been trousered especially in the light of the fact tjhat the manager of this apparent scam is facing criminal charges related to his EUkip job which he held until March 2009 and that he has also boasted to the media that he has over 1,000 bottles of fine wine he has acquired (his words as I recall) since he became an MEP!

Let us see if the liars and cheats who have been trying to distort the truth regarding the private funding of the private defence fund to aid those seeking to clean up EUkip which has at ALL stages been legitimately and honestly handled in accord with the initial apeal and to the satisfaction of all involved.

Now let us see these odious EUkip cheats who have acted resolutely and dedicatedly in a manner that can be shown to be serially dishonest and anti UKIP are able to put direct, sucint answers to these questions which seemingly show a hole in the accounts that could amount to upwards of £10 Million trousered – no wonder they were willing to lie and cheat to cover such a level of apparent criminality.

At the moment on a rough count I have something over 50 similar questions that require answers from EUkip, a publicly funded body utilising and seemingly stealing tax payers’ and members of a Public Organisation’s money on a near industrial basis.

Let us see just where  transparency, probity, integrity and honesty morally and ethically reside.

Perhaps one of the many readers of this blog  will have the integrity to post it onto the Forum, from which I am dishonestly and corruptly barred based upon the lies of Paul Nuttall EUkip’s unelected Chairman, Anthony Butcher the owner of the Forum who with Brendan Padmore carry out his bidding and provide a platform to smear my name and lie about me.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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