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Archive for October 8th, 2009

#646* – MAKING PLANS FOR NIGEL

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/10/2009

#646* – MAKING PLANS FOR NIGEL

MAKING PLANS FOR NIGEL AS PUBLISHED BY THE SUNDAY TIMES!

EDIT: SUNDAY. You will be pleased to know that although the article in The Sunday Times seemed to have been superceded in fact it had not been – Atticus had had the wrong version loaded to the web.

The article was in the Hard Copy.

I will endeavour to obtain a copy from one of my friends at the paper during the week and I’ll put it on here.

Herewith THURSDAY:
Here is the article which featured in last Sunday’s Sunday Times Print Version:

Ukip’s only making plans for Nigel

Do you feel the X factor has run its course?

Fear not, for an alternative source of entertainment is shaping up for the winter evenings – Strictly UKIP. A candidate for the leadership of the UK Independence Party has called on the current leader, Nigel Farage, to withdraw his resignation.

Nikki Sinclaire, MEP for the West Midlands, has written an open letter to Farage. “I cannot see the sense of an internal election, costing more than £25,000, less than six months prior to a general election,” she says. “If you choose to stay on, I would not put my name forward, and would urge others to do likewise.”

As a 6ft 4ins lesbian, Sinclaire would have offered a distinct change of image for UKIP, seen by some as the provisional wing of the Rotary club. But she said yesterday:
“No other MEP can match Nigel for his media skills. And even the Labour party aren’t so stupid as to ditch Gordon Brown in the run-up to a general election.”

This correction/addition can be seen in context if you CLICK HERE

MAKING PLANS FOR NIGEL:
Could Early Plans for EUkip Yooooof Be Paying OFF:

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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#645* – THOUGHTS on LEAVING THE EU

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/10/2009

#645* – THOUGHTS on LEAVING THE EU

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

THOUGHTS on LEAVING THE EU
or
HAS EUkip LIED ABOUT THE SIMPLICITY but PUT NO PLANS FORWARD!

Hi,

Up until now since its inception as a series of White Papers issued by The british Government as a solution to the restructuring of a largely broken CONTINENTAL Europe:

EUropean Union Co-Operation Vol I (I have papers #4 of 16-Apr-48 onwards for 1948 & 1949)

&

EUropean Union Council of EUrope Vol I (I have papers #7 of 05-May-49 onwards for 1949)

OR

EUropaische WirtschaftGemenschaft by Reichs Minster Walter Funk published Berlin 1942 which I have (My English Translation is available on the internet CLICK HERE

The EU experiment has grown insidiously in a regular series of ‘salami slices’ as the barbed wire circle of stars has ratchetted ever tighter around the neck of freedom first of the Nation State and increasingly of the peoples in thes vassal regions.

Until about 15 years ago this ratchet effect was similar to the frog analogy:
You put a frog into a pan of cold water and it will swim around merrily and as long as you raise the temperature slowly and steadily you can raise the temprature to boiling point and the frog will merely die and be cooked, without realising as its blood temperature rises with its surrounds being a reptile.

If you put a frog in a pan of warm water it will immediately make an effort to get out.

The incremental ratchetting of the EU has left most people, like the frog, blissfully unaware of just how far they are being taken over.

The enactment of the Lisbon Constitutional Treaty for the first time moves the EU into a politically controlling ‘In Your Face’ position.

Whilst the EU was all but invisible with the occasional error such as metrication, 40ton axle loadings, EU arrest warrant to name a few the peeople unfortunate enough to be in its thrall fell into three groups:

01./ EU devotees known as EUroPhiles – who were rabidly in favour and were being bribed ever more to act as its salesmen – MEPs for example who undertake on appointment to represent The EU’s best interests NOT their electorate or Country/Region.

02./ The lobotomised masses with their footie, racing, soap opera, beer, sex and comfort bought with a false salary per output and unsustainable borrowing – this constitutes the huge mass who are indifferent to politics, beyond moaning and who barely noted whether they were dancing to the tune of the Tally man, the bank, the bills, the Mrs., need, comfort or Government – whoever that may be!

03./ The EUroRealists a small but growing body of informed active and patriotic opponents of the experiment – all too well aware of the freedoms being lost and the ratchet effect as the EU took ever more incremental control as they watched the authority of their particular Oireachtas, Westminster, Bundestag wither and their political elite succumb to the cebtralised bribe structure.

Lisbon will, if enacted increasingly stir up the huge body of peoples in group 02. increasingly the details of the hoops they have to jump through will inevitably politicise them – the inevitability of rising food prices and falling incomes, rising joblessness and the inevitable rise in crime and heavy handed policing.

This will move a huge tranch of the 02. intellectually & politically EUthenased masses across a widening EUroSceptic bridge and as they learn more will become fully fledged EUroRealists.

To counter this the 01. EUroPhiles will seek to enlarge the bribe zone by mopping up a burgeoning middle class unemployable zone by ever greater QUANGOcracy of NGOs and the promotion of the new State Religion of guilt of an almost Catholic proportion at Anthropogenic Global Warming & Climate Change increasingly becoming barking mad in their desparation to hang onto their place at the trough!

By this process and minded that the entire world lives on a margin of 5% in terms of food production The EU is confronted with the incompetence and profligacy of its CAP, catastrophic missmanagement of The CFP and as output falls whereby for the first time in modern history the whole of Europe is a nett food importer but with a falling export and profit bases as it shrinks its own market by over management and erradication of natural competition.

The reality of global cooling which has been proven to pertain over the last 9 years and a period of climatic change, most probably caused by plate techtonic shift, could well wipe out that 5% margin in a single year – there will be those old enough to remember the appauling and savage famine that stalked the central planes of EUrope immediately after the last major EUropean war in the winter of 1945/6.

A famine that was so deep that without American aid the death toll could have reached 50% – a period when a small bar of chocolate would be shared out by a Mother and would buy the sacrifice of sex with any of her children.

Famine is only an intervention store away and the intervention stores in EUrope have been dropping in content year on year since the Millenium.

Had the winter of 1946/7 come one year earlier the death toll would have made the Stalingrad Seige seem like a picnic.

I do not believe that The EU is an experiment worth risking – particularly in a period funded on credit and dwindling monetary faith as America’s Dollar teeters on the brink having lost 14% of its value in a matter of weeks without sign of recover let alone cause to create it!

Lisbon moves The Politically controlling aspect of The EU experiment high profile and it can no longer be pretended that anyone but the central EU governs any of the vassal states. The EU has moved into YOUR sitting room with Lisbon – your now defunkt National Government can no longer decide on what light bulbs you buy!

The full weight of the 120,000 rules and regulations now fall on YOUR back to bear.

How long before even the yes voters are scuttling in anonimity across that EUroSceptic bridge to EUroRealism.

IF Lisbon is enforced will that be the EU’s Death Knell?

Lifted from http://Irish-Referendum.blogspot.com

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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#644* – Yasin AKGUN, TrUkip & DIFFERENTIATION

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/10/2009

#644* – Yasin AKGUN, TrUkip & DIFFERENTIATION

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Yasin AKGUN, TrUkip & DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN THE PATRIOTIC UKIP & THE SELF SERVING EUkip!

Yasin Akgun breaks silence, agrees to interview!

Breaking news…

Trukip have just now received news that Yasin Akgun is prepared to answer any questions completely from a “list of five”.

Us over at Trukip will work with GLW and Junius to pose five questions to ask the ex-UKIP member.

The interview will be posted within the next few days, so keep your eyes open!

UPDATE: Akgun has also requested that it be pointed out that the photograph shown below was dated in 2004 before he was ever a UKIP member. Akgun has also stated that anything taken from the London branch should be taken with a “pinch of salt as if it has been coated with anthrax.”

To view the original article CLICK HERE

I responded:

Hi,

I thank you for your phone call and the offer to ask Yasin a question – however though I aplaud your activities so far I feel as a long term supporter of UKIP seeking to show the huge and unsustainable gap between the principled desires of UKIP to repatriate British Democracy to choose laws to suit our peoples and our values through Westminster – the single aim being to have the right to make ALL our own laws and treaties in our own name by working for the one aim of leaving The EU so as not to be like EUkip.

EUkip clearly having put the cart before the horse in working with and in The EU as a part of the establishment aiding the EU by forming pan EU political Parties vis Groups – prostituting ALL that UKIP stands for.

Clearly EUkip is a self serving, corrupt, self enriching organisation that has delusional beliefs that 1 – 10 – 100 MPs in 5, 10, 15, 50 years time MIGHT gain liberation when we know 13 MEPs and 16 years has achieved NOTHING towards leaving the EU of consequence yet has created some very overpaid parasites!

Therefore I feel it more appropriate to respond to your position, in this instance, on one of my own blogs.

IF there were to be a question from me to Yasin it would incline to ask:
‘Yasin did you leave UKIP or EUkip and was it for personal or meaningful political reasons’?
Should Yasin care to provide a short essay addressing this I will happily publish it – however since ANYONE’S superstitions or beliefs are a private matter and generate utter indifference to me as I welcome all colours and creeds and am indifferent to gender or sexuality save amongst those I seek intimacy with!

I appreciate TrUkip is doing a good job but fear you fail to differentiate between the principled views and values of UKIP and the corrupt, idiotic, self serving EUkip which comprises ALL of the EUkip leadership team, NEC and parasitic hangers on and their over paid praise singers.

With best regards and good wishes,
Greg L-W.
http://caterpillarsandbutterflies.blogspot.com/

In more response to Yasin – I have separated this comment from TrUkip as to take such a stance yet use someone elses blog would be ill considered and ill mannered I believe – since though I aplaud their achievement in obtaining an undertaking from Yasin.

I therefore welcome any contact from Yasin, or anyone else for that matter, particularly in the search for an exit from the EU – consider that in 16 years neither UKIP nor the self seeking, self enriching and undeniably corrupt leadership, MEPs, NEC, staff and parasites of EUkip has made a single intelligent step towards leaving The EU.

No cost benefit analysis

No Vision – what style of governance would one wish for Britain?

No Vision – what type of country are we aiming for?

No Vision – what are the Features, Advantages and Benefits of leaving the EU.

What Exit & Survival plan has EUkip?

In all the years the party has NEVER given effective consistent training – few can put forward competent resonses to simple questions.

What can this party claim to have done of consequence or gravitas, competence or intelligence that even begins to justify strangers voting for them?

Perhaps Yasin might care to phone me or send me his thoughts!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

Posted in EUkip; UKIP; Yasin Akgun; | Leave a Comment »

#643* – / Petition / Nigel Must Stay?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/10/2009

#643* – / Petition / Nigel Must Stay?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

– / Petition / Nigel Must Stay?
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/nigelmuststay

Hi,

I wanted to draw your attention to this important petition that I recently signed:

“Call for Nigel Farage MEP to stay as Party Leader”
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/nigelmuststay?

I really think this is an important cause, and I’d like to encourage you to add your signature, too. It’s free and takes less than a minute of your time.

Thanks!

***Name Redacted by G.L-W.***

I was I believe the 116th. signator to date – not many, but some solid encouragement for Nikki Sinclaire’s entirely ethical stance as already published on this blog.

I also commented, but it did not show (probably too long) but here it is:

Hi,

as a long term supporter of the principles of UKIP seeking to restore the right of self determination to Britain to choose policies once liberated from The EU.

Clearly EUkip has put the cart before the horse and has become part of the EU establishment aiding them by participation on their own terms ineptly prostituting principles for cash by forming the EFD as effectively a pan EU political Party, alied with the scrapings of EU politics racists, xenophobes, sexually intollerant bigots A betrayal of UKIP.

Not Farage’s first utterly inept lack of political savvy but one of his worst.

Now clearly showing his ineptitude in leadership this General aims to abandon his troops on the eve of battle to orchestrate another corrupt internal selection of a beard to liberate Farage to line his pockets in the EU whilst seeking personal glory only in Britain!

I do NOT call on Farage to remain as leader – he has never led. I do however call on him to NOT display his self interest in such a cowardly manner, to show just a little OQ and try to lead & if he is inadequate to lead in a General Election as he claims to appoint someone of stature and vision and stand down AFTER the GE.

OR LEAVE NOW, shown up for what you are – a good performing monkey but clearly no Organ Grinder!

Regards,
Greg L-W.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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