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#604* – ITS A WOPPER & STILL NO ONE BELIEVES THE LIES

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 28/08/2009

#604* – ITS A WOPPER & STILL NO ONE BELIEVES THE LIES

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

ITS A WOPPER & 2.1/2 YEARS ON NO ONE BELIEVES THE LIES IT SEEMS!

Hi,

It is now 2.1/2 years since Rob Watts wrote this article for the Sunday Telegraph and he has now moved on and is working for The Sunday Times.

It was originally stated at the public hustings for the Leadership Election in which the lies of people like Annabelle Fuller, Mark Croucher, David Lott, Douglas Denny, John Moran, Jim Carver and others of the low life of EUkip dishonesty corrupted the process, in the long term destroying UKIP as we have seen as it became dependent on the Westminster expenses publicity for a protest vote in The EU elections and has now alied itself with those like it to form a pan EU Political Party Group as some of the most revolting racist, xenophobic, sexually intollerant politicians since Eichman, Goebbels, Miterand & Barbie!

During those hustings David Bannerman, best known for his lies about his ancestry and cheating to get elected in the Eastern Region, he spoke out to add detail to a statement made by Richard Suchorzewski which he was well placed to make as Chairman of the party at that time.

Bannerman stated that the income to the party from the various activities at Ashford was more than 10% of that income nearer 15%.

Years later and 2.1/2 years since Rob’s article with trust in EUkip’s accounts rock bottom amongst a number of well informed individuals the subject of who trousered the money and howmuch they stole rages on.

Minded of the fact that the media have shown that the most meagre of MEPs can reasonably steal over £1Million from the tax payer whilst in office without breaking any laws and based on Farage’s claim in this article when measured against his Chairman at the time it would seem as if a very great deal of money has not only not reached the party but ‘gone missing’ or been used for private gain.

We are well aware that Andrew Smith as treasurer for this period not only left his post in haste abrogating on his duty when asked 28 simple accountancy questions relevant to the party accounts by The NEC but had clearly misled the Electoral Commission over donations such that the party found itself in Court and was found Guilty of electoral offences.

I do not believe I would be wrong in stating that EUkip has proved a hugely successful self enrichment scam for a small grouping – one need only read the press and study the details of Tom Wise to be very certain of this, he even boasts he has no idea of any job he is supposed to do for the ‘loads a dosh’ he trousers! Others are no doubt more duplicitous in hiding their activities but there is no denying that every MEP is in exactly the same position:

or


or to Read the fuller details CLICK HERE

& still now no plausible answers on the various activities at Ashford or running credit cards through a hotel’s account in the west country, nor the £250,000 of tax payers money given by the EU for a petition which never took place, nor accounts of public money showing over 50% of income as ‘other expenses’ etc. etc.

One notes the donations as listed by The Electoral Commission and the absences speak volumes whilst those who feel they have unsafe seats in the run up to an election would seem to feel investing part of their gains may buy a further round with their snouts in the trough of The EU – one of the greatest scams of the modern era for the talentless would seem to be to aid the EU as useful idiots acting as Massively Expensive Parasites – the MEP whose sole job is to act as a highly bribed sales rep for the EU, for one could NEVER claim the EARN their income other than in the betrayal of their fellow countrymen!

That EUkip lies as a party to try to silence its critics and has a small team of ‘terriers’ endlessly harrieing those seeking transparency and an end to the corruption.

Well I remember The Cray brothers who used to threaten people, even making efforts to corrupt the courts to intimidate on their behalf, they threatened and bullied through attacks on family and friends and efforts to bankrupt their opponents – so very like some of the behaviour of some in support of EUkip and retaining snouts in the feeding troughs on the EU Gravy Train.

Ukip donations ‘failing to get to party HQ’

By Robert Watts
Published: 12:01AM GMT 18 Feb 2007

Ukip’s Nigel Farage: ‘No money has disappeared’
Hundreds of thousands of pounds donated to the UK Independence Party has failed to find its way into the party’s central accounts, a senior Ukip official has confirmed.

David Campbell-Bannerman, the party’s deputy leader, has said that only 15 per cent of funds donated to Ukip through a call centre in Kent has been paid into the party’s head office accounts.

Outrage over the Ashford call centre has been blamed for the resignations of at least six senior party officials over the past 18 months.

Five former members of the party’s national executive committee, Ukip’s governing body, have told this newspaper they believe about £500,000 is unaccounted for in the party’s head office accounts.

These claims are disputed by Ukip’s leader, Nigel Farage. “All the money raised by Ashford can be seen in the accounts for the south-east unit – no money has disappeared,” he said.

“The Ashford call centre was something that I opened up. It doubled the party’s membership and it made a very substantial profit. It’s the single most successful thing Ukip has ever done. “

The Ashford call centre was set up in October 2003 by Mr Farage, who then ran Ukip’s south-east regional office. Staff processed donations and annual membership subscriptions.

However, even though the staff processed donations from across the country the money was paid into the accounts controlled by the south-east office.

Members of the NEC at the time said they were appalled that this allowed Mr Farage to control the majority of donations to the party. They also said for a nine month period in 2004 and 2005 Mr Farage declined to provide the NEC with details of how much money the call centre generated. Mr Farage claimed that the south-east unit controlled the office because the central party did not want to. “The NEC did not want to have any responsibility or risk for Ashford because we had run call centres in the past at a substantial loss,” he said.

“We ran call centres in London and they lost £5,000 to £6,000 every month. I said: ‘This is ludicrous, let’s do this professionally’. The NEC refused to take responsibility for it.”

Mr Farage said that the call centre raised at least £400,000 over three years. He said the majority of this money was spent on promotional DVDs, videos, postage and leaflets.

Last week, The Sunday Telegraph revealed that Ukip filed its latest head office accounts more than six months late. It is understood that over the past few days some of the party’s donors have sought assurance from the Electoral Commission before they donate more to the party.

However, disgruntled party insiders said questions about the call centre, which closed last year, are a “running sore that won’t stop”.

A recent resignation letter by Ukip’s former chairman in Wales, Richard Suchorzewsji, refers to “financial and transparency issues” involving “the Ashford call centre and various aspects of Ukip accounts”.

It is understood that the call centre was also one of the motives for the resignation of Linda Guest, who last week sent a fiercely-worded letter to the party’s chairman, Dr John Whittaker, and other members of the NEC. She wrote: “I see no point in supporting any party that is controlled by a leadership that displays such contempt for democracy when it comes to its own members.”

To view the original unbelieved excuses from 2.1/2 years ago CLICK HERE

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU
&
GET BRITAIN BACK

THE FAKE PHOTO OF NIGEL FARAGE WAS SOURCED AT
http://www.andrewcusack.com/nigfarage2.jpg
or AS SUPPLIED TO THE BNP
http://www.bnp.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/pol-nigelfarage045a.jpg
FARAGE IS STANDING IN A MUDDY PUDDLE ON A BUILDING SITE & THIS PHOTO WAS OPENLY RELEASED BY THE EU FUNDED EUkip PRESS OFFICE

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#603* – EUkip ENDLESSLY DESTROYS ITSELF

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 28/08/2009

#603* – EUkip ENDLESSLY DESTROYS ITSELF

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

EUkip ENDLESSLY DESTROYS ITSELF – IF THEY COULD DO WHAT THEY ARE PAID TO DO AS COMPETENTLY THEY JUST MIGHT HAVE A FUTURE!!

Hi,

Living in Monmouthshire I become aware of activities in wales before many and UKIP is very thin on the ground in Wales & Monmouthshire – mainly due to lack of calibre and the incredibly unpleasant nature of many of the few who do exist.

I made little of a nebish councillor on an utterly irrelevant council reneging on his electorate who voted for an independent and now find they have some clown obsessed with such important matters as chewing gum, sex with murder suspects, smoking and other UTTER irrelevances.

My word how many publicans must be heaving a sigh of relief that they can claim a smoking ban has destroyed their business rather than admit it is largely due to their inability to change with the times and admit they have been out manoeuvered by competitors in a period where there are ever more pubs closing down despite the increase in licenses granted for on sales!

I wonder if these failed publicans have noticed that there are no flint axe makers left and few people enter department stores trying to buy gas mantles.

Yes I saw the article in Wales on line when it was first published but felt a story about a nobody in an irrelevant council supporting an irrelevant party EUkip was pretty much irrelevant.

Lets face it all parties have problems at their lower end – should they be blamed when their minions are found wanting?

I note the story was given large on Anthony Butcher’s corrupt little forum and on EUkip’s main site when these two characters became turncoats. One would think it was the second coming!! I guess since EUkip has so few elected representatives out of the 30,000 electable offices in Britain syphonning off £500,000,000 from the public purse for themselves, EUkip still have less than 20 for all their huff and puff! For source on 30,000 CLICK HERE

OK so parties have problems – they have candidates who get charged with sodomy of minors like EUkip did, they have MEPs who get sent to prison like EUkip, they have MEPs who lied about who they were to get elected like EUkip did, they have MEPs facing criminal proceedings like EUkip, they have a leader who has trousered £Millions like EUkip, they have a chairman who is a liar and a cheat like EUkip, they have bent ex coppers in office like EUkip, they have Press Officeers with convictions for theft of public money like EUkip, they have advisers who are serial business failure like EUkip, they have researchers potentially facing prison like EUkip, they have had a majority of their MEPs under investigation by Police &/or OLAF like EUkip, they have been found guilty in Court of criminal electoral fund raising like EUkip, they run unregistered lotteries without accounting the income like EUkip, they are dependent on turncoats for noticable representation like EUkip.

So I overlooked an irrelevant turncoat councillor or two!

Then I noted that Junius had made much of the matter, what was UKIP Forum had given it large and General Election Blog had also.

I then thought of the criminal cases that could befal a party, as listed above and minded that EUkip have a mere 20 or so elected representatives out of 30,000 yet I could not think of another party which could lay claim to each of the examples given of crime or missdoings!

So here is the article:

EUkip: Welsh EUkip Turncoat councillor makes a fool of himself!

A VALLEYS councillor is under investigation by his own party, following a web forum posting asking if people wanted to bed a murder suspect.

Adam Brown was one of two previously Independent members of Merthyr Tydfil Council who last month announced they were joining UKIP.

Since August 2007 the Gurnos councillor has been a regular contributor to the Bluebirds fans’ web forum cardiffcity.com

On July 18, a posting from Coun Brown’s account launched a poll on the question “Amanda Knox? Would you…?”

Amanda Knox is an American student currently on trial for allegedly murdering fellow student Meredith Kercher in the house they shared in Perugia, Italy, in 2007.

In a posting on July 21, Mr Brown chipped in to a discussion about rented accommodation on the same forum.

In it he said: “Simple really don’t take housing benefit tenants. Not worth the risk.”

Then on July 8 he initiated a poll called: “Does anyone give a **** about [Cardiff City manager] Dave Jones’ book…?”

Brendan Toomey, leader of the Merthyr Council Labour group, said: “If these comments were made by Coun Brown, and it looks very much as if they were, then he has slurred many of his constituents who are legitimately claiming housing benefit.

“To suggest that it is too risky for a private landlord to take on housing benefit claimants is entirely offensive.

“As for conducting a ‘poll’ regarding murder suspect Amanda Knox, it is obvious what Coun Brown is alluding to, and I find it completely insensitive and inappropriate.

“Labour will be referring him to the standards committee and I hope his national party leader will discipline him for his behaviour.”

Commenting on the Amanda Knox poll, Mr Brown at first said: “It was an example of ‘laddish’ behaviour on a football message board over two years ago.”

When it was pointed out that the Amanda Knox posting occurred last month rather than more than two years ago, he said he wanted to revise his statement, saying he knew nothing about it.

He thought a friend must have posted the comment using his (Mr Brown’s) username.

He admitted posting the messages about housing benefit and Dave Jones’ book. He claimed he had been put off letting to tenants on housing benefit after tenants living in a home he owns in Merthyr caused £5,000 worth of damage.

Last night UKIP Wales MEP John Bufton said the party would launch an inquiry into the matter.
To view the original article CLICK HERE

To Quote Junius on the matter:

Oh dear. UKIP’s leadership can really pick em. It never rains but it pours!

His first month as a UKIP councillor and already he is facing an inquiry and possible expulsion from the party!

Such is the calibre of UKIP’s latest recruits!

For more on this fool see my previous article: LINK

For Junius’ original of these comments CLICK HERE

You will note my cautionary posting when these two irrelevant little councillors were first much vaunted by EUkip on their web site (for lack of good news one must presume) and Kevin Mahoney was near orgasmic in his glee on Butcher’s squalid little forum – however who would really expect much more from Mahoney with his vituperative attitude and lack of political nouse as he drifts from party to party seeking someone foolish enough to grant him preferrment – unaware of the damage he does EUkip with his support.

I gave the caution on Junius Blog as follows:

Greg L-W. said…
Hi,

do correct me if I am wrong but it seems these two relatively irrelevant chappies on Merthyr Town Council having been elected as Independent have fallen out with everyone and have refused to participate in a democratic decision of the council (one I might say, with which I heartily disagree – even in the new communist style Governance from The EU!)

On this issue of earth shattering importance they in their sagacity decided to betray their electorate who wanted Independent Councillors, and become party bound.

Since EUkip’s avowed policies are to assist the EU in creating Pan EU political (Parties) Groups and imposing greater subsidiarity on Britain with EUkip working in committees to ensure better legislation over vassal states and throwing their lot in as good EUropeans to lead the racist, xenophobic, sexually intollerant EFD who advocate bombing and machine gunning immigrants and dressing up perverts as rabbits and hunting them.

Do you think it will make much difference having these hunts in the Valleys?

SORRY – DUE TO SPACE LIMITATIONS in Blogger answers I have continued this at:
http://CaterpillarsAndButterflies.blogspot.com #590* being posted just after 15:00 03-Aug-2009

My apologies to the Juniae and I will well understand if you opt not to publish the link!

But I will be a little M***** after all that work ensuring accuracy to publish the truth 😉

Regards,
Greg L-W.

03 August 2009 09:21

To view my original comment CLICK HERE

To view the full comment/article with pics. etc. CLICK HERE

Clearly it would seem EUkip will take anybody’s cast offs – one need only consider the liar and cheat Bannerman, the discreditted and dishonest political prostitute Marta Andreasen, the Tory reject Bob Spink who eventually so soundly denounced EUkip.

EUkip finds itself made yet further of a fool by Wales OnLine with:

AND a big week for the UK Independence Party too, as two Merthyr Tydfil councillors joined the party, giving Ukip its first council seats in the Valleys.

Adam Brown and Neil “Jock” Greer were previously independents, but who can doubt they will provide a huge boost for a party whose representatives have often had a reputation for being fruit-loops with incoherent views?

Mr Brown has passionately campaigned for a ban on the sale of chewing gum in Merthyr town centre and lives outside the borough because his house in Merthyr reminds him of his dead grandmother. Mr Greer has previously stood for the complete-opposite-of-Ukip, Forward Wales and last year attacked those councillors who switched party allegiance without submitting themselves to a by-election (which he himself is now doing).

They should fit right in, eh?

The original being at CLICK HERE

I do not for a moment define any of these hundreds of facts as more than small matters but I challenge EUkip to balance their own books by showing their big achievements made by their own efforts since their foundation in 1993.

As a long term and VERY active supporter of UKIP and an unflinching opponent over almost half a century of racism, sexual intollerance, corruption and loss of Justice, our Sovereignty, our rights to self determination and continued right to control of our borders, foreign policy, defence and alegiances in trade and commerce throughout the world both in and outside of The Anglosphere and The Commonwealth.

I would dearly love to have seen achievements of UKIP of which decent people of integrity and morality with ethics and patriotism could support.

One notes the minisculism used by their vile staff and senior supporters that so demean EUkip as they TRY to nit pick their way attacking unsalaried past devotees and ex supporters. Surely these imbeciles realise that the likes of Croucher, Septic, Mick McGough, StAthan (Kevin (Foxy) Mahoney need we wonder at his shame and use of a false name!), Douglas Denny, Brendan Padmore, The congenital idiot Bob Feel Martinis (a EUkip PPC!!!!!!!!!!), Paul Nuttall (lies, bullying and corruption), little Joshua Onion and all his sock puppets and others like them on Forums do far more harm to EUkip than ever could Junius, Warry, Collier, Gillman, West or even myself – they give absolute credibility to our postings as they struggle to defend the indefensible.

They show our various blogs and postings to be factually accurate as like fleas climbing an elephants leg with intent to rape they clamour and shout of the achievement they aim to make and how false are the statements of individuals like us as they run from fair and open debate.

per exempio read the clamourings about ‘The Defence Fund’ clearly in an attempt NOT to establish the truth but to deflect attention from the £Millions gone missing from EUkip it seems. Had they wished to establish the facts and truth they would merely pick up the phone and ask me for any detail they want. They have my telephone number!

Yet they run away from the truth to hide their shame!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU
&
GET BRITAIN BACK

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