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#519* – THEY DID IT FOR YOU

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/06/2009

#519* – THEY DID IT FOR YOU!

The Unknown Soldier


As the plans were arranged for the unveiling of the Cenotaph by King George V on 11th November 1920, a proposal was also put forward that the body of an unknown soldier should be honoured at the same time.

The instigator of the proposal was an ex-military padre: the vicar of Margate, the Reverend David Railton MC

One night having just led a funeral near Erquinghem in the Pas de Calais he returned to his billet where a single grave had been dug in the garden. A wooden cross had been raised above the grave stating quite simply that it belonged to an unknown British Soldier of the Black Watch.

The memory stuck in Railton’s mind and in August 1920 he wrote to the Dean of Westminster Abbey, Doctor Herbert Ryle, suggesting the idea of bringing home one such unknown soldier to represent those who had died and in particular, all those who had no known grave. It would give the nation a point of focus for honouring the dead.

Doctor Ryle was enthusiastic about the idea and suggested it to the King who thought that the proposal was far from sound especially so long after the war.

Not to be put off by mere royal dissent Ryle contacted the Prime Minister, David Lloyd George who was equally enthusiastic and used his Welsh wiles to talk His Majesty round.

A committee was set up and it was agreed that the final resting place of the soldier would be Westminster Abbey.

Orders were sent out to France and Belgium for the recovery of a British soldier who could not be identified from each of the main battlefields: the Aisne, Arras, the Somme and Ypres.

On the 7th November 1920 the four soldiers were brought to the Military Chapel in St Pol sur Ternoise in the Pas de Calais. Following the end of the war the small town had become the Headquarters of the British Army.

They were placed on stretchers and each was covered by a Union Flag. The delivering parties were immediately ordered back to their units to ensure that nobody would know that theirs had been chosen.

That night Brigadier General L J Wyatt (Commanding the forces in France and Belgium) entered the chapel. The solemnity of the moment cannot have escaped him and after reflection he placed his hand on one of the bodies.

This one was placed in a simple coffin whilst the other three were removed for re-burial in the local military cemetery. Unfortunately there are three military plots in St Pol and I have no idea which.

In the afternoon the coffin was transferred to the Château at Boulogne sur Mer where it was placed in the library which had been transformed into a chapel for the occasion. There it spent its last night on Continental soil surrounded by a Guard of Honour formed by Poilus from the 8è Régiment d’Infanterie (The St Omer Regiment).

At noon on the 9th the coffin was placed in an oak coffin, recently arrived from England. It had been fashioned from a tree of the Royal Palace at Hampton Court and was bound in iron bands. A crusader-style sword presented by the King from his own collection was passed through one of them. The lid bears the words: A British Warrior who fell in the Great War.

The coffin was draped in the flag that David Railton had used as an altar cloth during the war. It is known as the Padre’s Flag and now hangs in St George’s Chapel, Ieper.

In the afternoon the destroyer HMS Verdun entered the port. She had been specially chosen as her name would pay homage to the thousands of Frenchmen who had died during that terrible battle.

Drawn on a French gun-carriage and accompanied by soldiers from the 8è and 39è RI, 6è Chasseurs à Cheval (Light cavalry) and Fusiliers Marins of the French Navy the coffin was brought to the Quai Chanzy in the harbour. In front soldiers carried wreaths from the townspeople, French government and their defence forces as well as those British formations still in France.

A huge crowd was present and many of the shops closed their shutters as a mark of respect.

At the quayside Maréchal Ferdinand Foch the former Commander in Chief of the Western Front paid tribute to the Empire’s fallen.

Lieutenant General Sir George Macdonagh replied on behalf of the King telling the French people that:

We are taking the body of this simple soldier to lay him in Westminster Abbey, the most sacred of all places in Britain, where lie our heroes and Kings. His tomb will remain for centuries as a souvenir of the friendship, sympathy and love that unites and will forever unite Britain and France.

From CLICK HERE

They gave their youth, their innocence and their lives for YOU by the Millions!

Emily Davison Derby Day June 1913
Emily Died for you to have Democracy!

Suffragettes’ procession along Pall Mall, London, c.1910
Adela Pankhurst Walsh Papers, MS 2123 Manuscript Collection
They took huge risks to extend the franchise for YOU.

On the 4th. June 1989 he risked his life
to show the world his people had no vote.
In Tiennamen Square The Brutal Totallitarian
Chinese Regime killed 100s of its citizens
who wanted the right to vote
in a staggering act of cowardice & brutality the Chinese Government
slaughtered 100s of unarmed people.

TODAY

THEY WORK FOR YOU

The Defence Debate was held today in the House of Commons.
The “turnout” tells you all you need to know about our Parliament.
ONE …Labour backbencher present … ONE!!!

Perhaps they had forgotten the lies and dishonesty of Tony Blair.

Perhaps they have forgotten that on their watch:
137 Young British soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan
&
136 British Soldiers lives were wasted in Iraq.

Perhaps they have forgotten that means somewhere in the region of 2,000+ British soldiers maimed physically but how many 1,000s damaged for what is left of their lives!

10 MPs could be bothered earning those faux expenses and their comfortable lives by turning up to even debate Defence. Shame on the 632 too disinterested to bother turning up – probably doing some DIY to flip their homes before they are dumped by the electorate to draw their termination pay off and their over generous pensions!

Perhaps they had forgotten Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Jack Straw and the rest of the corrupt and dishonest Labour Cabinet of Blair’s are directly responsible for the murder of over 1 Million people in Iraq.

Perhaps they have conveniently fogotten THEIR leader Tony Blair should be on trial for crimes against humanit, war crimes and murder.

Perhaps they had forgotten British troops have just been forced to retreat in ignominy from Iraq with huge loss of life.

Perhaps they had forgotten that we have British soldiers serving with totally inadequate equipment in Afghanistan.

Perhaps they haven’t yet read the facts CLICK HERE

For a debate on Defence in The British House of Commons 632 elected AND PAID MPs couldn’t be bothered to turn up.

The timetabling, of course, is appalling.
Though having suffered this catastrophic Government and its more than useless opposition for 12 years I presume it was deliberate.

To hold such an important debate on the same day as the elections virtually ensures a poor attendance.

Nick Harvey mentioned this in his speech, calling it a “graveyard slot”.

The tragedy is the attendance was not that much lower than normally experienced. James Arbuthnot called it an “absolute disgrace” – we’re talking to an empty Parliament, he says. “We might as well not be here.” You said it Mister!

Ann Winterton declared that it was “insult to our armed forces”.

“To hold a debate on this day does suggest a calculated insult …” said Dr Julian Lewis.

10 MPs attended – I will publish the honours and shame list as soon as Hansard publishes.

To read the debate at Hansard CLICK HERE

For the debate on The British Economy at one stage The Labour benches were EMPTY the sole attendees were The Treasury Minister and a representative of the unelected and reveilled Peter Mandelson (Business Manager for The Government) – An Economics debate whilst The Chancellor was too busy to attend as he was desparately trying to balance his expenses before being fired!

Astonishingly the vote today for our real Government, since 75%+ of all Law enacted through Westminster is imposed without any meaningfull democracy by The unlawfull, ilegal and dishonest centralised EU committee dictatorship of the EU – which has less mandate to Govern Britain than has even Gordon Brown.

Yet today it would seem that well over 60% of the British electorate refused to give a vote for the EU and with those like myself who wrote on our ballot ‘LEAVE THE EU’ well over 60% and MAYBE as high as 70% of our peoples have granted absolutely no mandate to continue with the EU experiment.

Interestingly I phones several of my media contacts but Newspaper Editors are not remotely interested in NEWS they are however willing to pay good money for ANY story that involves BIG BROTHER!!!

That said – if you have such a story phone a friend of mine and do quote my name as an intro CLICK HERE

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#518* – Ministry Of DEFEAT

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/06/2009

#518* – Ministry Of DEFEAT


There is an election today, but that is a minor event. This is the day my book, Ministry of Defeat is officially published, something of a personal landmark, as it is my first “solo” hardback.

Available from Amazon and all good bookshops, the launch press release is over on Defence of the Realm. Already, the BBC has refused to cover it, as have most (but not all) major newspapers. They, having failed effectively to cover the occupation, are now complicit in pretending the defeat never happened.

We expect, therefore – as Booker and I did with The Great Deception to have to rely on word of mouth and the internet, proving once again that, if you divert from the path which the media dictates, you are largely on your own. Nevertheless, I am confident that the truth will out

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#517* – FARAGE IS CLEARLY DISHONEST

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 03/06/2009

#517* – FARAGE IS CLEARLY DISHONEST

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

Nigel FARAGE of EUkip IS CLEARLY A LIAR, DISHONEST & UNTRUSTWORTHY!

Tuesday, 2 June 2009
Farage’s Future post 4th June

If 4 weeks ago some one had asked me could I envisage a scenario for 4th June in which UKIP was expecting to increase its number of MEPs then I would have admitted defeat. However given all three major parties have managed to shoot themselves in both feet at the same time anything is possible. There is a continuous scale of UKIP MEP possible numbers from 3 to 20 say compared with 12 last time or 11 to allow for the reduction in the number of UK MEP seats.

I think Farage will step down post 4th June whatever the result. Ten or more seats will be a glorious triumph for the great leader to exit on. Less than 10 will be blamed on the usual BNP moles sabotaging the great leader. But the bottom line is NF wants to enjoy the high life in Brussels, large office, large salary, large pension, chauffeur driven limo that will come his way as leader of the IndDem group in Europe without the need to be involved in tedious British domestic politics. It will of course be spun as a necessary fight for UK independence from the EU, allies in Europe etc, but the truth is Farage went native years ago.

Where will that leave UKIP? Bannnerman & Nuttall both have leadership aspirations. Bannerman was and is a Europhile whom the Tories rejected years ago. Nuttall wants to be in Brussels rather than Bootle. The only decent choice for UKIP is Trevor Colman who would undoubtedly work in the UK to free us from the EU yoke but may not want the leader’s job.

Coming back to the result the d’Hondt method does pretty well reflect the percentage vote with an obvious cut off on smaller parties that get less than 8% in the South East and 12% in regions with less seats. It is possible to construct scenarios that could deliver a seat to a small party with slightly less than these percentages but it is not likely. So on this basis I give my estimates of the percentage vote necessary to deliver 1 and 2 UKIP MEPs in some areas.

East Mids (5) UKIP gets 1 with 20% and 2 with 36%
Eastern (7) UKIP gets 1 with 14% and 2 with 23%
London (8) UKIP gets 1 with 12% and 2 with20%
North West (8) UKIP gets 1 with 12% and 2 with 20%.
South East (10) UKIP gets 1 with 10% and 2 with 17%
South West (6) UKIP gets 1 with 16% and 2 with 30%
West Mids (6) as for South West
York & Hum (6) as for South West
Wales (4) UKIP gets 1 with 25%

If we look at the recent IPSOS/Mori poll:

CON 40%
LAB 18%
LIB DEM 18%

with the smaller parties splitting nationally:
Scottish/Welsh national: 4%
Greens: 6%
UKIP: 7%
BNP: 4%
Other: 3%

It looks like only a strong regional/personal vote for UKIP will deliver seats with South East NF looking reasonably secure, South West will exceed the national average by a factor of 2 to 3 and Eastern is likely to do well despite Bannerman but could be upset by the Greens and UKF.

There is a considerable North/South split however so although Nuttall looks like having a good chance in Lancashire the BNP may poll strongly there and in Yorkshire and the East Midlands.

It all depends on which poll you believe but it looks like a tough ask for UKIP to get more than 5 seats. What could upset everything is what the Sun comes out with tomorrow and on polling day.

Tim Worstall said…

Erm, those are general election voting intentions in that poll Eric, not euro.

Try again with the correct figures, eh?

02 June 2009 15:27

Greg L-W. said…

Hi,

Silly me I thought Tiny Tim was paid to do PR not endlessly snipe like the typical dishonest EUkip leadership – how soon he learns the ways of the EU.

I guess having made a stab at informing all the help one could expect from the BNP styled introspective and bullying liars at EUkip was an unpleasant comment.

Looks like Tiny Tim is just another political whore looking for an income – why am I not surprised as EUkip sure does attract some unpleasant parasites.

Eric does it matter howmany MEPs EUkip get? 0 to 3 will be on their merits and ALL the rest will be because of other people’s failures.

There is no doubt that the dishonesty and lies of Farage and The Faragista Fan Club of paid Praise Singers has been catastrophic for these United Kingdoms.

With not a single solitary candidate of calibre or integrity they will indeed need their liars and disemblers.

There is no party without Farage, as he has destroyed it, and there are no leaders in the wings – A failed Tory, who is not only confused about his parentage but has little knowledge of what a Policy document is – Do you recal he PROMISED to deliver 17 full policy documents by February! – he failed to deliver a single solitary costed, spell checked adult policy document, just some Tory reject policies he brought in his briefcase when they dumped him.

Then there is the BNP look alike liar, bully and general scally parachuted in without election as Farage’s puppet chairman.

Trevor Colman is just another bent coppe(r retired), who colluded in the criminality of Tom Wise by utterly failing in his duty as a citizen and accepting as ‘payolla’ the position replacing the dishonest and risible old rascal Graham Booth – he even agreed to continue to pay the liar, cheat and corrupt fixer for Farage who has betrayed members of UKIP for years, aided by his wife, on a very handsom EU salary.

EUkip sadly has no future as Farage has destroyed it – whether with 2 or 22 MEPs it will never shuck off the vile corruption by people like Moran, Lott, Croucher, Denny, Moran, Bannerman, Reeve, Clark, Booth, Knapman, Farage and their ilk built on sewage by sewage from sewage – just how high can one pile **it?

The ONLY thing EUkip has learned in 16 years, is how to behave like The EU – growth for growth sake, centralising its authoritarian control and increasing its own revenue for its own gain.

EUkip has under Farage’s mallevolent and dishonest control used the bully boy tactics, intimidation, lies and corruption we have seen before in EUrope in the rise and not so convincing demise of Fascism.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

02 June 2009 21:25

Eric Edmond said…

Greg,

The failure by Farage to deliver on numerous ‘promises’ is one of the main reasons he will disappear from the UK domestic political scene.

My substantive point on the election is not which poll you use is irrelevant but what the voting system requires is what matters. Tim W. like all Faragistas is incapable of seeing things as they are.

Come 7th June I may be proven completely wrong but I do agree with you that a maximum of 3 will get in on their merits and the rest on the failure of other people and parties

03 June 2009 00:54

Greg L-W. said…
Hi,

I wondered if you had seen this pack of lies from Nigel Farage:

You will note my comment below it:

Greg260146
Nigel Farage lie lies and lies about this issue – having invented his Reichstag Fire Moment he keeps peddling this nonsense. EUkip have not removed a SINGLE BNP member that they have identified merely elected NEC members whom they have lacked the integrity to state were BNP.
The claim is infiltration – name 5 BNP members brave Farage has removed.
This pack of lies from Farage is on a par with his pack of lies about removing Tom Wise, whom he promoted who RESIGNED in March 2009.
FARAGE LIED

FOLLOWED BY ANOTHER COMMENT:

NortonSubHamdon
If Farage had worked out who the infiltrators were why did he not name them? Answer, he did not because he made this whole story up to smear UKIP members who opposed him in UKIP. There is not a shred of evidence to support Farage’s fiction but these UKIP members are now presumed guilty without a chance to defend themselves. The media should be more aware of this nasty Nazi tactic by Farage that UKIP persistently uses to discredit legitimate critics.

minded that the YouTube comments are a limited number of characters!

Since the only people actually sacked by EUkip that are public knowledge are:
Martin Hasslam
Dr.David Abbott
Dr. Eric Edmond
Del Young
John West
Niall Warry
Gregg Beaman

Is it Nigel Farage’s contention that these individuals were infiltrators for the BNP.

To date Farage has never had one iota of proof that any of these were ever BNP – they may or may not have met a member of The BNP just as Farage has from time to time.

Do remember that the attempt to throw Niall Warry out was so criminally dishonest that on the advice of Michael Zucherman he was re-instated and also note that Del Young is Black and they have failed to remove either Dr. Edmond or Dr. Abbott despite mallicious gossip.

It is also worthy of note that Nigel Farage invited Buster Motram to join the party as a family friend and has frequently used him for publicity – also do note Nigel Farage invited Motram to speak to the NEC.

This pack of lies about BNP infiltration is a deliberate creation by Farage and his dishonest cronies, a ‘Beneficial Crisis’, a technique learned from The EU the developement of which is based on just such dishonest concepts.

The aim would seem to have been to justify Farage’s lurch to an authorotarian centrally controlled extreme right wing closet racist (where colour is often represented by difference of creed), to give ground on their natural alies the revolting BNP which Croucher, Searchlight, Common Purouse and the EU itself have done so much to promote.

The stance seems to be to raise the profile and stature of petty vile xenophobic Nationalism to undermine the laudable values of Patriotism.

Farage and his immediate cronies base their entire argument on the style of The BNP, intimidation, unfounded slurs and a tissue of lies.

One must wonder if it is in fact out of stupidity and the failure to realise there is no realistic distance between extremists be they extreme right or extreme left they are equally as vile.

One must ask if the imbecilic and transparent nature of the vile behaviour of EUkip’s leadership is of ignorance spurred on by greed as puppets or sentient realisation of what they are doing in which case their behaviour is in many ways worse than their BNP bretheren or even The EU and Common Purpose.

Politics has Never been a simple game but a sequence of hands as in a Poker Game.

Having failed to identify a single BNP infiltrator by name with convincing evidence Farage will no doubt continue to lie and deploy his more vile accolytes to spin and weave a new fabric of dishonesties.

Nigel Farage is beyond doubt a liar – a cunning and sometimes, to the gullible, a plausible liar but a liar no less.

The question is whether he is a liar from venal greed and stupidity based on moral dyslexia or is he trained as a liar to betray these United Kingdoms for his masters?

Regards,
Greg L-W.

03 June 2009 09:55

Eric Edmond said…

Greg,

Thank you for your comments re the lies of BNP infiltration. I agree with you completely and also with NF’s complete lack of any proof.

This is what I fell out with him 10 minutes into my first NEC meeting. I made it clear to him then that I would not rubber stamp any of his ridiculous tirades and smears without seeing independent evidence to support his claims. To the best of my knowledge Farage has never produced any evidence of BNP moles/infiltrators or whatever in UKIP.

Every journalist I read retelling Farage’s lies on BNP infiltration I email suggesting he asks Farage to name one of these claimed infiltrators. So far, no reply

Eric

03 June 2009 10:33

You can view the original article and exchange on Dr. Eric Edmond’s Blog CLICK HERE

Interestingly I note that not only is Eric Edmond quite right in that Nigel Farage has never once named a single BNP, so called, infiltrator – not ONE, unless of course you include the long term EUkip member Farage encouraged as a family friend , to join EUkip to help him – Buster Motram who I am told was some sort of tennis pro. who I gather has an association with Farage’s father Lt. Guy Farage (TA rtd.) who I understand was associated with him via The National Front.

The closest to any claims of association with The BNP seem to be the dishonest lies of Mark Croucher an egregious piece of filth who has done huge damage to the credibility of EUkip since his association and subsequent employment.

Mark Croucher has proved time and again that he is a liar and a cheat and has proved a serial failure at much that he has ever touched. He turned EUkip’s in house magazine into an untrustworthy pack of lieas and inuendos. He brought EUkip’s reputation into the gutter with areas of the media with his lies and dishonesty most traceably during the period when he was telling lies to the media and to The Press Complaints Commission when his submission was totally rejected.

Mark has also lied on many occasions about me and his repetition makes his lies no more valid than when he first lied.

Many will remember when he and the foul mouthed Fuller seemingly colluded in their vile dishonesty regarding Richard Suchorzewski, scared witless they would be out of a job if he was elected leader as he would never have tollerated their vile associations, foul language, obscene smears and gutter behaviour.

Many will be aware of Croucher’s endless dishonesty about Dr. David Abbott whom, as those who are informed will know, was a protege of Nigel Farage’s who had, as a Doctor practicing in America had made a donation to an organisation for support of Britain – the immense total of $100 (at the time about £50.00!!!), that the organisation SUBSEQUENTLY transpired to be a ‘front’ for BNP collection was discussed by EUkip’s NEC and it was UNANIMOUSLY agreed that this was no hinderance to being either a member the elected NEC member or a candidate.

In an effort to damage the party Mark Croucher, at a later date made much of the matter and the fact that David had at one time or another MET Nick Griffin in public at a function – this was probably done for his masters at Searchlight – a vile and extreme clandestine organisation not very different to The BNP in its methods, where Croucher has been at home for many years supplying details of members to this extreme left wing self interest group.

Again the matter of Dr. Abbott’s membership on the NEC was debated and it met with only ONE opponent who was Richard Suchorzewski who went along with Farage and the rest of the NEC eventually on an assurance from David Abbott that he did not nor had he ever supported the racist aims overt or covert of The BNP nor its style of Politics. Besides Farage Del Young spoke strongly in Dr. Abbott’s favour.

Having it seems failed in virtually every aspect of his life this poisinous little man Croucher, in order to damage EUkip to maintain some element of control has, despite all the facts, continued to make much of this issue for his personal agrandisement.

Similarly this odious little liar has repeatedly tried to claim that some years back I invited Griffin to a Huntsman weekend with some 30 other people – a lie of course but no doubt he will try to spin his lies repeatedly. Like a small child because he can find not a single lie I have ever told in my life – a conditiion he is clearly unable to comprehend he now resorts to name calling and misrepresentation.

If this is the standard of filth and the methods of Farage’s EUkip then as a Patriot I for one would like to see him on trial for his betrayal of the values of these United Kingdoms and would welcome the return of a Treason charge for the manner in which they have harmed Britain – They are beneath contempt, vile inadequate little men!

Interestingly for all his lies and those of EUkip’s leadership threy have never ONCE identified a single solitary inaccuracy or substance on any of my Blogs nor been able to rebutt a single solitary fact I have posted.

I note that the odious little Croucher, to try to build his stature, has I gather set out to build another dishonest smear case – this time against Piers Merchant. It would seem he has created an identity for him and established him as some sort of super sleuth in his own mind.

Without one shred of apparent evidence we were I gather regailled with some drivel that the Clever serial failure and general low life had identified Junius – when he realised just how foolish such a claim was he rapidly claimed that what he meant was Piers Merchant wasn’t Junius but supplied all Junius’ information.

I can catagorically state this is not just a pack of lies but could not be very much further from the truth. I know and am aware of the majority of the sources of the information on Junius Blog – I have spoken with the Junius blog writter and members most days since it was started.

If Mr. Merchant would care to take Croucher and EUkip to court and of course as Croucher’s, Nuttall’s and Arnott’s sponsors Farage would of course be clearly responsible under law – I would be only too happy to attend Court to see an end to these lies, these liars and such vile behaviour and defamation of individuals as a method of political advancement.

The filth that are EUkip’s leadership are aware that I am unlikely to take legal action against them for their dishonesty as having not worked for almost 9 years due to cancer I am unable to sustain any kind of legal action – Piers Merchant and his wife, on the other hand could probably buy every asset owned by Farage, Croucher and Arnott from his wife’s salary alone!

As an aside dishonest claims have been made by Croucher to raise his credibility where none exists – there has been absolutely no diminution in information since or due to any activity of his as no information has ever come to me from any source he even is aware of and I doubt he can work out Junius’ sources – he can’t even work out who is involved in that blog!

There has been a CHANGE of sources and the type of information since The EU Parliament stood down for elections – this has mainly been due to the fact that most of our sources are scattered due to involvement in electioneering for their various parties. Some are retiring this election – others have been promoted.

Whether Croucher continues to leak material or not is a matter of irrelevance.

It is widely known that due to Croucher’s involvement I now have several copies of EUkip’s data bases. That despite leaking internal documents and posting them on the Forum Croucher has also admitted that EUkip has ignored the serious Official Caution received by Paul Nuttall the unelected puppet of Farage (and shortly to be stalking horse) – EUkip has blatantly ignored The ICO’s warning and the law and thus unencrypted data bases have been readily available.

Unlike Croucher I shall not be providing details of the members to any other organisation as you will recal Croucher has openly boasted in public of supplying details of members to the extreme and vile Searchlight with which he is closely and shamefully associated and despite the irrefutable fact that they are pro EU he boasts of actively being a fund raiser for Searchlight.

Is this really what the British public fool enough to vote for EUkip actually realise they are voting for?

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#516* – EUkip, Archibald RAMSEY, NF & Corruption.

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 03/06/2009

#516* – EUkip, Archibald RAMSEY, NF & Corruption.

Hi,

today I recieved a particularly strange ‘e’Mail from:
Robert M. Stockmann [stock@stokkie.net]

I question the motivation and my response follows:

Hi,

There’s a interesting poll put up by the British Democracy Forum at

Who will you vote for on 4th June? http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/announc … -june.html by Administrator and Moderator Anthony Butcher of the Libertas Party.

Sofar its roughly 41.51% UKIP and 28.30% BNP …. But there is a problem, Mr. Butcher somehow doesn’t want to moderate my posting and put it up for public view.

Here’s my posting (BTW i voted for UKIP, although the EUSSR menace should stop a.s.a.p. and there was sadly enough not the option “None of the above”.) :
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The Soviet States of Europe

The following was penned down in 1952 by the assistant of Chamberlain, Cpt. Archibald Ramsey. On 23 May 1940 he was imprisoned without a valid reason in Brixton Prison. On 6 September 1944 he was released and took his seat again in the House of Members of Parliament :

“Out of the last war we brought the Soviet States of Russia ; out of the next war we will bring the Soviet States of Europe.” had been the pronouncement at a world meeting of communist parties about 1932. To make the next war possible, therefore, the see-saw must be balanced again ; German strength build up, and British strength whittled down. Then the Europeans can fight each other to the death of one and complete exhaustion of the other. A dramatic surprise is in store for both sides. Neither is to be the real winner. The real winner is quite a different army. This army is the one that will receive the real attention. For 25 years it will be built up under conditions of the greatest secrecy. Its leaders will not show their strength until the conflict is well under way. Not until a critical moment in the war will the European armies be permitted to guess at the existence of the huge factories beyond the Urals, or of the colossal proportions of the heavily mechanized hordes which will then commence to roll west-wards over Europe under the red flag of Marxism.”

It starts to look like we now finally are getting the Soviet States of Europe, most certain because ‘free enterprise’ doesn’t exist anymore, where only a thing like ‘free trade’ is hailed but that’s only a mockery because on Heathrow one is only allowed to buy 2 cigarette packages or a couple of bottles. If one exceeds this, one is fined and, when failing to pay, parked in jail next to Ashley Mote.
————————————————————————

It certainly starts to look like http://www.democracyforum.co.uk has been takenover by a couple of strange ‘moderators’

Hi,

I note with interest your posting untrustworthy as Anthony Butcher is being self interest and very easily self impressed – you must remember he has little or no understanding of ethics or integrity. His weak capitulation to the lies and bullying of EUkip has been plain for all to see as has his willingness to act as a platform for corrupt and dishonest individuals like the vile Mark Croucher a piece of pond life with which Farage is intimately associated, who is a conduit of EUkip information to the extremist and clandestine organisation Searchlight.

EUkip has taken a lurch to an outdated centralisation of authoritarian control under Farage where many of the methods and looks of an extreme right wing Fascist party has emerged.

Consider the dishonesty and lies of Paul Nuttall who was willing to lie and bully to get his way with little Anthony Butcher who rapidly capitulated to and colluded in EUkip’s dishonesty.

I note your quotation from Archie Ramsey which is known to me but perhaps you can provide a URL from which this can be authoratitively sourced.

That Archie Ramsey was both an extremist and markedly anti Jewish leads me to incline not to promote his views or deductions as I have found them to be on the whole vile.

That Archie Ramsey was indeed imprisoned is not debatable though your assertion of ‘without a valid reason’ is rather disingenuous as you will no doubt be aware that he had fallen foul of the Home Secretaries legally enacted war time authorities to imprison without trial, anybody he believed likely to “endanger the safety of the realm”.

I find it disingenuous of you to represent the situation as you do in the light of the fact that Archie Ramsey was a leading light in the extremist organisation The Right Club based in more than fair measure on racism, anti Judaism and an undemocratic attack on the values of these United Kingdoms verging on direct betrayal and collaborative behaviour as with William Joyce a fellow member or the odious A.K. Chesterton a supporter of apartheid and you may well be aware of his part in the foundations of The National Front and his best known work The New Unhappy Lords although showing some insight into the dangers of Global governance and The New World Order is in the main a vile and obsessive promotion of an anti Jewish White Supremacist bile.

Wisdom, prescient foresight, opportunity and a glib way with words is not nor should it ever be a Free Pas to Get Out of Jail.

Archie Ramsey was betraying his Country and was in the words of Parliament ‘likely to endanger the safety of the realm’ whether you are Archie Ramsey, William Joyce, Tom Wise, Nick Griffin, Tom Wise or A.K. Chesterton there is no quarter that should be given for corruption or betrayal of ones Country, racism, hatred of peoples for their superstitions and beliefs, nor lies, victimisation or dishonesty of issues or people – NO Get Out of Jail Free card.

I had felt disposed to NOT publish your deeply flawed submission however perhaps the light of day and the oxygen of publicity might destroy such vile mold.

I have based my comments on one single article by you, in which you may possibly be misguided and naiive, in which case I apologise and will publish your rebuttal of my conclusion in your defence – if however my deduction is correct expect no quarter.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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#515* – EUkip’s CORRUPT SELECTION SCAM

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 02/06/2009


#515* – EUkip’s CORRUPT SELECTION SCAM

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

Piers Merchant – EUkip’s own returning officer – on the invalidity of the Eastern Region selection process!

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

UKIP LIST SELECTION PROCESS, 2008

I was officially appointed as Returning Officer for the UKIP internal elections which were to decide on the regional list candidates for the 2009 European Elections.

My duties were not clearly defined but included supervision of the election campaign and of the subsequent count.

I was appointed after the short listing process and therefore took no part in that. However, it was not entirely clear to what extent my remit extended to scrutinising the validity of the short listed candidates. Returning Officers normally have some responsibility for ensuring candidates are correctly nominated.

During the course of the election campaign I received complaints on almost a daily basis. Many of these were about the validity of the candidates and often about the process of short listing . I formed a view that something had gone wrong in various regions and in some it was sufficient to tarnish the election process itself.

I was placed in a practical position where I had to rule at various times in the campaign whether or not a candidate was a valid candidate because of a chorus of complaints and questions.
I was very keen to try not to disrupt the complex voting process once it had started and so where there were complaints that looked credible I said I would make a final ruling after the count. I could then take an overall view and also give parties a chance to re-consider their position in the light of the results.

In my official report to the National Executive Council ( which I can make available), I stated that I considered the overall position in both the Eastern and London untenable. As far as the Eastern region was concerned I formally recommended that a special sub-committee be set up with a remit to investigate all the complaints and determine how to resolve them.

To my surprise the NEC rejected this recommendation after a very brief discussion which I believe was quite inadequate and, furthermore, decided to take no action at all.

Given the complete failure to even investigate the serious and continuing complaints and given all my original concerns, it is my considered view as Returning Officer that the results of the internal election in the Eastern Region are unsafe and invalid and that the entire process should be re-run.

Piers Merchant
12 February 2009

EUkip’s leadership have the bare faced dishonesty to clamour for votes to represent these United Kingdoms, willing to lie on live media as Farage and others have and willing to lie about other people on a regualar basis.

Since the return of the influence of Searchlight and Mark Croucher, the serial business failure, who proved such a catastrophy when he was employed by EUkip previously it is noted that the level of dishonesty has increased dramatically as has the dishonesty and corruption of the vile attacks on supporters who have spoken out in favour of ethics, integrity and morality.

There is no doubt that Croucher brings out the very worste in Farage, who out of determination to keep his snout in the troughs, stay out of jail and as a moral dyslexic knows no depths to which he is prepared to sink egged on by Croucher – one of life’s failures.

I guess when you seek out that which floats in the septic tank of perifferal politics there is little doubt of the outcome, whether racism, bullying, lies or pure fantasy – all can be found in EUkip and we all remember the corruption of EUkip when last he was soiling the party.

Now we note EUkip can’t even conduct an internal election without it becoming corrupted.

But let us face it – what hope was there, particularly in The Eastern Region when you consider that the self appointed lead candidate was a liar and a cheat who seemingly has never held down a propper job outside of flunkey for the Tories. Bannerman’s greatest traceable achievement was to Chair the Tory extremist organisation The Bow Group for a while and for a short while act as a Town Councillor in Tonbridge!!

This is the sad little failure with the fidgets and ticks who was parachuted into EUkip on a raft of lies and waves of dishonesty – another total fake like Stephen Sobey also parachuted in by Tory Central Office. In almost 6 months of working from the same office Croucher was too impressed by his fake name (Stephen Sobey Neville) to twig he was a ‘plant’.

Similarly EUkip’s personelle and Press Office failed to Google the faintly ridiculous David Bannerman and swallowed his fake identity as well. Interestingly had Sobey & Bannerman been whom they claimed to be they would have known each other as it was claimed did the foul mouthed Fuller who it was claimed knew Sobey!

Who EXACTLY do these people work for – because it is an absolute certainty they are not working in the best interests of UKIP, UKIP genuine members or the British peoples.

Bannerman is not in any way, nor by any stretch of the imagination a descendant of an irrelevant Liberal Prime Minister whose only real claim to fame was to die without progeny in number 10 Downing Street!

Then we have the rascal Agnew who has proudly announced he has paid out enough to EUkip to have bought his position – that seems to be true. May I add that as an executive of EUkip he will be in an untennable position for any man of integrity as he espouses GM croups and greater use of GM in Britain and is already trialing GM on his farm for profit – yet he seeks election as a EUkip MEP where by a substantial majority the members voted AGAINST his proposition in favour of GM at The Bournemouth Conference.

Interestingly Stuart Agnew is not just a venal and aggresive little man but seemingly without understanding of ethics as he also holds a position espousing GM crops as an Officer of The NFU.

I do not believe Stuary agnew seeks election for any other reason than to promote his personal profits and GM Crops as a lobbyist for The NFU – he can not possibly represent the decent folk of EUkip who have voted conclusively against the Monsanto style frankenstein crops and feeds that can destroy entire crops and seek to steal from the innocent – an obscenity that goes against the grain of every EUkip member based upon the majority vote AGAINST Stuart Agnew.

Then we have the liar Andrew Smith who due to his incompetence as an accountant whilst doing EUkip’s books and his deliberate misleading of The Electoral Commission has already been personally guilty, together with Nigel Farage, that they were found Guilty thus garnering EUkip a Guilty Verdict in Westminster Magistrates Court in a case, yet to be finally resolved which will most likely cost EUkip in excess of £1/2Million in costs and forfeiture – having proved both his incompetence, his dishonesty and his guilt Andrew Smith seeks election as an MEP – such arrogant hubris from a two bit failure!

Need we go on down the list? It is astonishingly easy to show that it was NOT a fairly or honestly selected list.

EUkip are utterly incapable of performing the simple democratic task of drawing up an elected list of candidates and they presume to ask the public to vote for them based on their lies and frauds to become representatives – when their leader openly boasts of garnering £2,000,000 of tax payers money (a figure nearer £5,000,000 would actually be more accurate) – he then boasts he hasn’t a clue where it went!

It is interesting to note that EUkip elected two MEPs from the UK EU Eastern Region in 2004 The one was Jeffrey Titford, currently under investigation by OLAF regarding misappropriation of funds I understand and his nominee as running mate, previously Office Manager and Paying Officer was Tom Wise who astonishingly was elected!

Tom Wise went on to be exposed quite rapidly by the media for his fraud in collusion with his researcher Lindsay Jenkins – surprisingly EUkip took virtually no steps of a meaningfull and honest nature to distance themselves from Tom Wise – in fact Knapman made many efforts to orchestrate cover-ups aided by Croucher acting to dissemble and spin the story. Knapman’s final disgracefull action as leader was in collusion with the bent retired senior police officer Trevor Colman to orchestrate an utterly dishonest investigation and cover-up. It would seem from looking at the lists that Coleman’s ‘payolla’ for his hypocracy and outright dishonesty was to be placed as No. 1 Candidate in the South West having already accepted Graham Booth’s seat when he quit as an MEP, no doubt finding visits to his comfort zone on the Continent more arduous to complete relative to the comfort received!!

We note a part of the utterly corrupt package was that Trevor Colman was obliged to keep on the ‘rigger’ for Farage the liar and cheat Malcolm Wood and his wife at a salary of around £60,000 – Wood has acted as ‘rigger and fixer’ for Farage for many years frequently undermining and betraying party staff, officers, candidates and members particularly in the South West and often speaking for Graham Booth when he was finding sentences difficult!!!

Booth was not so much a dishonest man but despite his inheritted wealth was staggeringly stupid – one only had to listen to his vile and cringeworthy speech at Lextrum House when he retired – he showed his true competence and personality much to the embarrassment of all present. It is fortunate he inheritted wealth as it is unlikely he could have held down more than the most menial of jobs a man very similar to Giles Chichester MEP candidate for The Tories but stupid as Booth was, self indulgent and foul mouthed as he was and limited in humour or charm as he was he was no where near as dishonest as Giles Chichester, but perhaps he wasn’t bright enough!

Graham Booth’s implausible defences of Tom Wise were a joy to behold they were so febrile it was like a commedy routine!

I wonder if Bannerman will return to the Tories after the election? Clearly from EUkip’s Returning Officer’s Official Report, which can be read in full elsewhere on this blog, there isn’t a single candidate for EUkip in The Eastern Region who does not bring shame on the body politic.

If you live in the Eastern Region cleary EUkip has no one fit to vote for which leaves you with the option of hold your nose to keep out the stench of Bruce Lawson and Peter Cole Tom Wise’s paid appologist (both of whom are staggeringly ill mannered, totally self obsessed and without competence, grace or personality to share between them) however their candidate Robin Page has much to offer & the efforts of John West have been exemplary if ever more frenetic as the election draws near in his fear and anger that EUkip may be rewarded for the dishonesty of a few Wesminster MPs when EUkip’s fiddles make those at Westminster pale into insignificance.

The choices in Britain are in The Eastern Region to vote UKFirstParty for Robin Page and in the South East for Petrina Holdsworth also with UKFirstParty and in ALL other areas there seems to be only one choice –

where if you, like me, trust no Politician to deliver that which best serves your aspirations and the interests of these United Kingdoms – join me in acting honestly and ethically and write on your ballot paper:
LEAVE THE EU

Fortunately honesty and integrity are their own reward, because life is rarely fair!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#514* – DOES EUkip OWE £60,000?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 02/06/2009


#514* – DOES EUkip OWE £60,000?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

DOES EUkip OWE ITS MEMBERS & CANDIDATES ALMOST £60,000?!

Hi,

the two letters below have been at my disposal for some time having been supplied from one of my sources in the EU.

I do appologise as I overlooked it earlier – I’m afraid I have a number of items like this that have not been published due to the amount of material about EUkip that has been supplied to me by members who have been inscensed by the dishonest and abject failure of achievement of EUkip during Farage’s utterly corrupt pretence at leadership.

So called leadership that was so catastrophic that it halved the membership and had EUkip on course to get 0 to 3 MEPs.

Any more than 3 MEPs will not reflect EUkip’s achievements but its lies, distortions and gutter behaviour and the foolish mismanagement of pay rises, thinly disguised as allowances, of Westminster Politicians.

Anyway – make of this correspondence what you will – it does seem that Matthew Franks of The Electoral Commission has written to the discreditted Marta Andreasen stating that EUkip is liable to pay back the £800 paid by every MEP candidate as it was only A LOAN.

I presume they were aware that they were writing to a liar and a cheat who is not a legitimate ccandidate in EUkip having cheated.

It is interesting to note – depite the hype – that Marta Andreasen was NOT The Chief Accountant for The EU, nor was she even A Chief Accountant in the EU, it seems we have all been deliberately and dishonestly misled.

It would apear that for a short time Marta Andreasen WAS a senior budget accountant before being suspended, having, it seems from the Court Judgement, failed to produce the work she was being paid to complete, however I suggest you read The Judgement for yourself CLICK HERE for the preamble and CLICK HERE for the full text.

These two letters throw much light on the way in which EUkip ‘muddles through’ based on very poor leadership.

To view larger versions of the two letters provided below, just double click on the one you wish to read:

Letter #02 of 11-Nov-2008 seems even more problematic for EUkip and would seem to leave them almost £60,000 in debt to their candidates and that is only including those who have remained on the lists. Have they already repaid the £800 to those they have cheated like Gregg Beaman, Dr. Eric Edmond etc.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#513* – WILL EUkip BENEFIT FROM CONSTANT LIES?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 01/06/2009


#513* – WILL EUkip BENEFIT FROM CONSTANT LIES?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

WILL EUkip BENEFIT IN THE LONG RUN FROM THEIR CONSTANT LIES?!

More Farage Media Porkies


IS THIS FARAGE RECRUITING FOR THE BNP?

OR

Perhaps angling to see if David can arrange a meeting with Cameron, to do a deal for EUkip not stand against The Tories if they promise him a Peerage or a safe seat in Parliament? Suggesting a promise to hold a referendum on The New Constitution Lisbon Treaty.

Nigel Farage gets away with making up fiction after fiction which is swallowed unquestioningly by our supine and idle media. Well I guess it takes hard work to check facts. Why spoil a good lunch which I believe NF recently bought Peter Odone of the Daily Mail.

On Sunday I read a piece by one Melissa Kite in the Sunday Telegraph retelling the story of how Nigel’s November NEC was stormed by a BNP delegation whom Nigel single handedly repelled and what a good media performer Marta Andreasen was .

I emailed Ms Kite on Sunday, copy to her editor, pointing out there never was a BNP delegation at that meeting, indeed only UKIP members.

How do I know? Well I was there and come to think of it I have never met any BNP members or sympathisers in UKIP ever so the next time NF trots out this story just ask him who these people are. I would like to know. He won’t be able to tell you because they probably don’t exist like all of Farage’s bogey men.

Returning to Ms Kite I include below the email I sent to her, her boss and the Sunday Telegraph editor.

Dear Ms Kite,


Your piece above is incorrect in its description of the BNP storming the UKIP NEC meeting of 3rd Nov 2008. It is sad to see such lies being retold in your paper. I was at that meeting as an elected member of UKIP NEC. I knew everyone at the meeting. No members of the BNP were present, I checked on their leaked membership list. No storming of the meeting took place by the BNP or anybody else. There was no delegtion for Mr Farage to “tell to leave”. This is a pure fiction made up by Mr Farage, one of many I might add.

I have put my full recollections of the meeting on my blog below and if you contact me I will give you the contact numbers of three other people present at that meeting who will vouch for the truth of my account. These are David Abbott, a hospital doctor, Martin Haslam, a senior partner in an Accountancy practice and Del Young an East Midlands businessman.

http://ukiptruth.blogspot.com/2009/05/nigel-farages-economy-with-truth.html

I hope you will publish a correction and learn not to accept the uncorroborated word of duplicitous politicians.

More subjectively your assertion that Ms Andreasen is ‘an effective media performer’ is open to question. Compare her bumbling performance on Question Time on Thursday 21st May with that of PY Gerbeau a week later on the 28th May. Andreasen gave her game away by calling the audience ‘you’ while PY identifies with the UK and spoke to the audience using ‘we’ and ‘us’.


I would also point out that Ms Andreasen’s candidacy applications was invalid under UKIP rules on 5 or 6 counts. She does not even live in the UK and her UK address provided to the Electoral Commission may only be a temporary accommodation one. You could try asking her what her views are on the sovereignty of Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands. I and the voters would like to know her answers before Thursday.

Eric Edmond

David Abbott wrote a similar email:

Dear Ms Kite

You seem to have been too easily taken in by Nigel Farage.

Your colleague, Neil Tweedie, published similar nonsense last Saturday.

The only statement in that article that was not open to question was from Tim Congdon: ‘Ask Nigel Farage how much time he spends in Brussels as opposed to here. UKIP has ceased to be about getting the British people out of the EU, its about getting a number of individuals into the European Parliament’

Those who have seen him in action will know that has a great gift for telling convincing lies, especially if it advances his main objective, to stay on the EU Gravy train for another 5 years, with all the unaccountable expenses, free mud baths and pension rights that go with being an MEP.

I was at the meeting when he alleges the BNP stormed in. Nonsense. Only members of the UKIP NEC were present, together with UKIP’s Argentinian treasurer, the deputy treasurer and one other invited guest. All present were UKIP members. No BNP members were present.

Voters who want to vote for a withdrawalist party have several other parties to choose from.

You are welcome to ring me on 07887.500572 for further details.


David F Abbott MRCP

Ms Kite nor anybody at the Telegraph bothered to reply. A major national paper is content not to correct demonstrable lies 4 days before a crucial election. Why?

The Telegraph are not alone in retelling Mr Farage’s propaganda, today a similar uncritical piece on Mr Farage appeared in the Independent. The quote below gives the flavour of the piece by Andy McSmith,

But this energetic, extroverted man has gone a long way towards clearing out the racism and nastiness that lurked on the fingers of UKIP, when The Independent appropriately described its members as “the BNP in blazers”.

Well who were these racists? Who were these men or women in blazers? What evidence did Mr Farage have of their views? I have only heard the phrase BNP in blazers once before and it came from long time Farage supporter Malcolm Wood.

At the start of my first NEC meeting in April 08 I had the temerity to ask Mr Farage what evidence he had to support a tirade he had just delivered against a UKIP branch demanding its suspension. I was then subjected to a tidal wave of abuse from Denny, Duffy etc for not simply accepting the word of the great leader. Well I asked for evidence and continued to ask for evidence but it seems our journalists don’t. I conclude that in the area of political journalism shoddy standards are commonly accepted on our national dailies but why is Farage being given such an easy time by our media?

Finally I switched on the Andrew Neil, Daily Politics show today to find, Yes, N Farage as guest. Even Mr Neil remarked how often NF had been on and was NF still after a job on the show as he had mentioned on his previous appearance 4 weeks earlier. Neil easily trapped Farage on the £2 million expenses he claimed he used to finance UKIP but then he gave NF an easy ride. Thank goodness there was also a Labour MP and a No2EU left winger who rightly gave NF a harder time than Andrew Neil.

So what is going on? Clearly the media see building up Farage as the antidote to the BNP. You only have to talk to Farage for 2 minutes to know what he is. The media are not stupid but they and the LibLabCon establishment are clearly are running scared of the BNP. As always the media will build Farage up so as to knock him down later. They have plenty of material to do this with but so far they have not used it. The Labour party however has some very damaging material on UKIP and they are getting desperate so it may be like today’s Daily Politics the comrades will be the ones to put the boot in to burst NF’s bubble.

To view Eric Edmond’s original blog CLICK HERE

*To read the online version of Melissa Kite’s article CLICK HERE
It is a little less flowery in its description of Farage’s fantasies about his friend Buster Motram’s presentation to the NEC which Farage asked him to make – didn’t go down very well did it Nigel with Duffy, Denny, Zucherman and other making such fools of themselves in their childish outbursts and the total loss of control of the NEC by your unelected scally parachuted in as your puppet. They even had to call the Police to restore order but the cover-story was that they were called to remove Mr. Motram or some other fantasy figure. NO ONE WAS REMOVED.

The Police managed to restore order for Paul Nuttall and the meeting continued.

Farage is clearly a moral dyslexic and will lie about anything to keep his snout in the trough – he even hires in pond life like Mark Croucher, another liar all too willing to invent stories about The BNP and unwilling to tell the same story twice about supplying details of members to the odious extremist Searchlight organisation, with its BNP style methods of witch hunts, break ins and criminality to support their self serving aims.**

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU
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#512* – CLEARLY NOT FARAGE’S FINEST HOUR!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 01/06/2009


#512* – CLEARLY NOT FARAGE’S FINEST HOUR!!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

SKY’S ADAM BOLTON PROVIDES FARAGE’S FINEST HOUR – NOT!!!

Hi,

for those who watched The Adam Bolton political show on Sky to whom I have spoken it would seem that Farage was most fortunate that The Adam Bolton show did not show this clip live as they felt he came across as far from well.

The Transcript does show that but rather less dramaticly.

TRANSCRIPT

Interview Declan Ganley, Libertas & Nigel Farage, UKIP

Aired: Sunday, 31 May, 2009 10:00

Sunday Live

Any quotes used must be attributed to Sky News, Sunday Live

ADAM BOULTON:
It’s the European Parliamentary elections this week and if you are in the UK and you are not too keen on Europe and you don’t like the Conservatives then two parties are actually focusing on the whole question of Europe from a sceptical angle. There is Libertas and I’m joined now from Mullingar in County Westmeath in Ireland by their founder, Declan Ganley, who is actually standing in Ireland although he has candidates in many countries in these 27 nation European elections and also I am also joined here in the studio by the UK Independence Party’s leader, Nigel Farage, MEP. Why you rather than Libertas, Nigel?

NIGEL FARAGE:
Libertas, I mean look, well done Declan Ganley for fighting the Lisbon Treaty in Ireland and the referendum, that’s good and I wish him well in his seat but the big difference is Declan Ganley believes in the EU and believes in membership of the EU, thinks it can be reformed and changed but that this treaty doesn’t take it in quite the right direction. That position is pretty much identical to that of David Cameron’s. Our position in UKIP is look, we want to trade with Europe, be friendly in Europe, co-operate with our next door neighbours but not be part of a political union and we are the only party offering that option.?

ADAM BOULTON:
Declan Ganley, you are pretty much the same as David Cameron only obviously less well known.?

DECLAN GANLEY:
Well we are very different to David Cameron and the Labour party. What Nigel is saying insofar as we are not against the European Union is correct, we’re not. The European Union needs dramatic reform, it needs it now. The fact is that the expense scandal that is going on in Brussels dwarfs that that is going on in the UK. In fact Nigel’s own party has had around a quarter of its members either investigated or indeed having been convicted of fraud and various other misdemeanours that are expense related. The fact is …?

ADAM BOULTON:
Whereas you … carry on.?

DECLAN GANLEY:
The fact is, is that Europe needs to be reformed, it needs to be reformed now. We have successfully defeated the Lisbon Treaty in Ireland, UKIP, the Tories, Labour, none of them have executed successful reform in the European Parliament. They talk about it, they talk a good game but they cannot deliver. We are running candidates across most of the member states of the European Union precisely because this is a numbers game, you need a significant number of seats in the European Parliament to be able to put the pressure on the Commission, which is ridiculously the only place that laws and regulations can be initiated. The fact is that the majority of the laws and regulations in the UK now come from Brussels, that now has to stop.?

NIGEL FARAGE:
Declan is right about the Commission … Declan is right about the Commission, it is the un-elected bureaucrats that make the laws.?

ADAM BOULTON:
The problem is you have been there with your colleagues in the European Parliament for five years, what have you achieved??

NIGEL FARAGE:
Public opinion when I was first elected showed 25-30% of Britons thought we should be outside of the Union and have a simple trade deal. It is now 55-60% and what UKIP has done is to lead that argument, lead that debate and move the …?

ADAM BOULTON:
What have you actually done in Europe with a job and the money and the expenses that you’ve had??

NIGEL FARAGE:
Oh goodness me, I exposed Commissioner Barrot as being a convicted embezzler, I am the only person in that parliament in the last ten years who has been able to get the entire commission on a motion of censure before the Parliament.?

ADAM BOULTON:
We heard David Cameron earlier saying you had voted to let Spanish fishermen into our waters.?

NIGEL FARAGE:
Amazing. Mr Cameron should check his facts. What the Tory party voted for was for 60% of the fish of the Shetland box to be caught by the French and Spanish fleets.?

ADAM BOULTON:
And how did you vote??

NIGEL FARAGE:
We voted against it, we believe that 100% of the fish of the Shetland box should be caught by British fisherman and it is a bit rich for Mr Cameron, who turned his back on a CFP policy, to criticise us on fishing.?

ADAM BOULTON:
You did take part in a vote which allowed them in didn’t you??

NIGEL FARAGE:
No, no, they were already in, it was a question of what allocation the British got and we thought that 40% in our territorial waters was not good enough.?

ADAM BOULTON:
Mr Ganley was also making the point there about politics as usual or possibly even worse as far as your MEPs are concerned. Two suspended, one …?

NIGEL FARAGE:
On expenses, on expenses, one. On expenses, one, who when it …?

ADAM BOULTON:
Mr Wise and Mr Mote.

NIGEL FARAGE:
No, Mr Mote was an entirely separate issue. On expenses one and that person, even though when he was found to have done wrong he paid all the money back, we got rid of him immediately.

ADAM BOULTON:
And you’ve got another one, Godfrey Bloom, who says he is Mr Clean, doesn’t employ his family, it turns out he employs his niece.

NIGEL FARAGE:
Extraordinary, here is Godfrey Bloom who was given £20,000 of his daily allowances to charities, I don’t think anyone is going to put a finger on him.

ADAM BOULTON:
So why did he say he didn’t employ anyone from his family?

NIGEL FARAGE:
He doesn’t employ his wife, he doesn’t employ his children, he employs a niece.

ADAM BOULTON:
He employs a niece, okay. He also says anyone who employs a woman of child bearing age needs their head examined and he actually employs two women in their 20s.

NIGEL FARAGE:
Well under, under the rules – and Alan Sugar agrees with that now too.

ADAM BOULTON:
Let’s go back to Mr Ganley. Mr Ganley, how would you, if you do get into the European Parliament, would you take your expenses?

DECLAN GANLEY:
We are going to publish our expenses on a quarterly basis online with full detailed receipted expenses. The fact is, is that it seems that many MEPs from the Labour party, from the Tory party, from UKIP, from the Liberals, seem to be in politics for money and not to serve the people. The fact is that right across Europe and very much in the UK, we want to ensure that the people of Britain get the opportunity to go in and vote for change and effective change delivered for the British people.

NIGEL FARAGE:
They are all talking about change, they are all talking reform, we’ve had thirty years of talking about reform, it’s time we cut our links and got back to governing our own country.

DECLAN GANLEY:
But the fact is that …

ADAM BOULTON:
We are going to have to leave it there, thank you both very much indeed.

To view the original article CLICK HERE

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#511* – Idris FRANCIS – BULLETIN

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 01/06/2009


#511* – Idris FRANCIS – BULLETIN


BULLETIN: FRANCIS, Idris
of: St. Meons, Near Petersfield.


On Thursday last:

Idris Francis had a fall whilst working on his car outside.

He thought he had fallen into his work pit in the garage but that does seem unlikely as the boarding planks were still in place if rather ‘displace’.

Idris does not remember the event but came into the house in a confused state and collapsed onto the settee.

In view of his condition his aunt (Win) who is more or less totally wheelchair bound at 87 was unable to assist overly much and called an ambulance.

The ambulance came and took Idris to A&E at Winchester Hospital
where he was admitted to a ward after various tests.

Chatting to Win today (SUNDAY), who I have known for around a dozen years, she tells me that although it is uncertain it does in fact seem that Idris either tripped and fell backwards or had ‘a bit of a turn’ and fell backwards, as he badly cut the back of his head and hurt his back.

The settee was ‘debrised’ with grass and bits of gravel as was his head wound, this leads to the belief that he fell at the edge of the driveway.

That this led to blood stains on the settee – Kindly be more careful in future Idris – make sure you bleed more thoughtfully 😉

Idris was released from hospital but earlier today due to impaired mobility due to back pain and a failure to be able to control the headache/pain Win felt, since she is ill equipped to act as carer, that Idris would be better cared for back in hospital and he being (as those who know him will understand) far from the best or most patient of patients is now back in Winchester Hospital.

Idris was readmitted via ambulance and A&E and after further checks is now on Freshfield Ward, where I have just spoken with the ward Sister 03:15hrs 01-Jun-2009 who advises he is sleeping without medication and is stable after a fall, with no apparent complications at this stage (as is her duty she was a bit ‘cagey’).

Fortunately Idris has good neighbours and they are keeping an eye out for Win and are doing her shopping for her and would do so for Idris when he comes out, should he need help..

The exact nature of the cause of the injury (beyond a fall) is not certain as also the actual medical damage – let us hope it is no more than bad bruising and nothing more serious.

I will be speaking with Win regularly and will pass on any relevant information.

Win is naturally concerned but does not feel that the matter is ‘serious’ for as she said ‘he is a tough enough old chap but it is hard to know how bad it is as he is a difficult patient’ – why am I not surprised 😉

Would all senior citizens reading this please be a little more mature and accept the irrefutable fact that they just don’t bounce as well as they used to!!

I have asked Win & the nursing Sister to convey best wishes from his EUroRealist friends.

Let us hope he is back to his normal self fit and confident very soon – we need him to maintain the pressure on our politicians as their conscience to get us OUT of the odious EU.

Best wishes to all.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62
if you want an update.

UPDATE:

MONDAY – 01-Jun-2009 20:15hrs.

Ashley Mote & his wife have just returned from a visit to Winchester Hospital.

They were Idris’ only visitors so far.

He is obviously in considerable pain in his back, as the fall slipped a disc which has slipped before and been replaced.

The hospital are not doing anything beyond offering painkillers. They assume he will (when well enough) go to see his own osteopath in Gloucester. At present he does not feel well enough to undertake the journey.

He also has a headache which – he has been told – may last several weeks owing to bruising of the brain from the fall. But – fortunately – there is no internal bleeding.

Otherwise he was his usual grumpy and engaging self, and for very good reason. He even managed to talk about enjoying the rest of the summer with his vintage cars, as well as producing a litany of criticism about the way the hospital is run!.

We are just down the road from his home, and have been in touch with Wyn to offer help. Immediate neighbours already in charge, so no problems for the moment.

Will keep in touch with developments, but at present Idris expects to be home in the next day or so. He will then have to allow his wounds to heal and restore his strength so that he can get to Gloucester to have his disc replaced.

By all means pass this update to anyone who has asked for news

regards,

as ever
Ashley

UPDATE:

I spoke with Ashley’s wife a couple of hours ago and have just spoken with Win and gave her such details as I could add.

Win is OK and much relieved that there seems to be no sign of bleed on the brain thus largely ruling out a stroke.

I will inform if anything needs updating – So many people know Idris from his douty performances as a heckler at the Conferences of all Political persuasions in his determination to oppose Britain’s membership of The EU.

UPDATE:

07-Jun-2015

Hi, earlier today I received the following somewhat curt communication from Idris Francis, which will please many and it was good to hear he has fully recovered but claims his aunt, his friends and others were in fact wrong!
Here are Idris Francis’ recollection of events some 6 years after the event:

Greg

I came across your web page about me by chance this evening and would be obliged if you would corrrect the following errors at
http://greglancewatkins.blogspot.co.uk/:

1/ I reversed my 1939 Alvis out of my garage, intending to polish it for the imminent national Alvis day. I walked back into the rather dark garage – I had not bothered to switch on the lights as I intended to polish the car outside – and as I walked I looked across the garage for polishing cloths, not where where I was walking.

2/ I forgot that the inspection pit over which the car had been parked did not have its boards in place due to the last job I had done on the car had involved being down in the pit.

3/ I cleary remembered, then and now, walking back into the garage, and why and I clearly remember waking up on the settee – it was only the fall I do not remember at all, though I do vaguely remember climbing back out of the pit.

4/ I also remember driving the car back into the garage, as the ambulance crew watched, and that the boards were still not in place.

5/ I made a full recovery over the following months, including a brain scan that confirmed no effect in my brain

Idris

You will note the details of the event do not exist at:

http://GregLanceWatkins.blogspot.co.UK nor at http://GregLanceWatkins.com

so i trust his update here will reassure people.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

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