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#513* – WILL EUkip BENEFIT FROM CONSTANT LIES?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 01/06/2009


#513* – WILL EUkip BENEFIT FROM CONSTANT LIES?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

WILL EUkip BENEFIT IN THE LONG RUN FROM THEIR CONSTANT LIES?!

More Farage Media Porkies


IS THIS FARAGE RECRUITING FOR THE BNP?

OR

Perhaps angling to see if David can arrange a meeting with Cameron, to do a deal for EUkip not stand against The Tories if they promise him a Peerage or a safe seat in Parliament? Suggesting a promise to hold a referendum on The New Constitution Lisbon Treaty.

Nigel Farage gets away with making up fiction after fiction which is swallowed unquestioningly by our supine and idle media. Well I guess it takes hard work to check facts. Why spoil a good lunch which I believe NF recently bought Peter Odone of the Daily Mail.

On Sunday I read a piece by one Melissa Kite in the Sunday Telegraph retelling the story of how Nigel’s November NEC was stormed by a BNP delegation whom Nigel single handedly repelled and what a good media performer Marta Andreasen was .

I emailed Ms Kite on Sunday, copy to her editor, pointing out there never was a BNP delegation at that meeting, indeed only UKIP members.

How do I know? Well I was there and come to think of it I have never met any BNP members or sympathisers in UKIP ever so the next time NF trots out this story just ask him who these people are. I would like to know. He won’t be able to tell you because they probably don’t exist like all of Farage’s bogey men.

Returning to Ms Kite I include below the email I sent to her, her boss and the Sunday Telegraph editor.

Dear Ms Kite,


Your piece above is incorrect in its description of the BNP storming the UKIP NEC meeting of 3rd Nov 2008. It is sad to see such lies being retold in your paper. I was at that meeting as an elected member of UKIP NEC. I knew everyone at the meeting. No members of the BNP were present, I checked on their leaked membership list. No storming of the meeting took place by the BNP or anybody else. There was no delegtion for Mr Farage to “tell to leave”. This is a pure fiction made up by Mr Farage, one of many I might add.

I have put my full recollections of the meeting on my blog below and if you contact me I will give you the contact numbers of three other people present at that meeting who will vouch for the truth of my account. These are David Abbott, a hospital doctor, Martin Haslam, a senior partner in an Accountancy practice and Del Young an East Midlands businessman.

http://ukiptruth.blogspot.com/2009/05/nigel-farages-economy-with-truth.html

I hope you will publish a correction and learn not to accept the uncorroborated word of duplicitous politicians.

More subjectively your assertion that Ms Andreasen is ‘an effective media performer’ is open to question. Compare her bumbling performance on Question Time on Thursday 21st May with that of PY Gerbeau a week later on the 28th May. Andreasen gave her game away by calling the audience ‘you’ while PY identifies with the UK and spoke to the audience using ‘we’ and ‘us’.


I would also point out that Ms Andreasen’s candidacy applications was invalid under UKIP rules on 5 or 6 counts. She does not even live in the UK and her UK address provided to the Electoral Commission may only be a temporary accommodation one. You could try asking her what her views are on the sovereignty of Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands. I and the voters would like to know her answers before Thursday.

Eric Edmond

David Abbott wrote a similar email:

Dear Ms Kite

You seem to have been too easily taken in by Nigel Farage.

Your colleague, Neil Tweedie, published similar nonsense last Saturday.

The only statement in that article that was not open to question was from Tim Congdon: ‘Ask Nigel Farage how much time he spends in Brussels as opposed to here. UKIP has ceased to be about getting the British people out of the EU, its about getting a number of individuals into the European Parliament’

Those who have seen him in action will know that has a great gift for telling convincing lies, especially if it advances his main objective, to stay on the EU Gravy train for another 5 years, with all the unaccountable expenses, free mud baths and pension rights that go with being an MEP.

I was at the meeting when he alleges the BNP stormed in. Nonsense. Only members of the UKIP NEC were present, together with UKIP’s Argentinian treasurer, the deputy treasurer and one other invited guest. All present were UKIP members. No BNP members were present.

Voters who want to vote for a withdrawalist party have several other parties to choose from.

You are welcome to ring me on 07887.500572 for further details.


David F Abbott MRCP

Ms Kite nor anybody at the Telegraph bothered to reply. A major national paper is content not to correct demonstrable lies 4 days before a crucial election. Why?

The Telegraph are not alone in retelling Mr Farage’s propaganda, today a similar uncritical piece on Mr Farage appeared in the Independent. The quote below gives the flavour of the piece by Andy McSmith,

But this energetic, extroverted man has gone a long way towards clearing out the racism and nastiness that lurked on the fingers of UKIP, when The Independent appropriately described its members as “the BNP in blazers”.

Well who were these racists? Who were these men or women in blazers? What evidence did Mr Farage have of their views? I have only heard the phrase BNP in blazers once before and it came from long time Farage supporter Malcolm Wood.

At the start of my first NEC meeting in April 08 I had the temerity to ask Mr Farage what evidence he had to support a tirade he had just delivered against a UKIP branch demanding its suspension. I was then subjected to a tidal wave of abuse from Denny, Duffy etc for not simply accepting the word of the great leader. Well I asked for evidence and continued to ask for evidence but it seems our journalists don’t. I conclude that in the area of political journalism shoddy standards are commonly accepted on our national dailies but why is Farage being given such an easy time by our media?

Finally I switched on the Andrew Neil, Daily Politics show today to find, Yes, N Farage as guest. Even Mr Neil remarked how often NF had been on and was NF still after a job on the show as he had mentioned on his previous appearance 4 weeks earlier. Neil easily trapped Farage on the £2 million expenses he claimed he used to finance UKIP but then he gave NF an easy ride. Thank goodness there was also a Labour MP and a No2EU left winger who rightly gave NF a harder time than Andrew Neil.

So what is going on? Clearly the media see building up Farage as the antidote to the BNP. You only have to talk to Farage for 2 minutes to know what he is. The media are not stupid but they and the LibLabCon establishment are clearly are running scared of the BNP. As always the media will build Farage up so as to knock him down later. They have plenty of material to do this with but so far they have not used it. The Labour party however has some very damaging material on UKIP and they are getting desperate so it may be like today’s Daily Politics the comrades will be the ones to put the boot in to burst NF’s bubble.

To view Eric Edmond’s original blog CLICK HERE

*To read the online version of Melissa Kite’s article CLICK HERE
It is a little less flowery in its description of Farage’s fantasies about his friend Buster Motram’s presentation to the NEC which Farage asked him to make – didn’t go down very well did it Nigel with Duffy, Denny, Zucherman and other making such fools of themselves in their childish outbursts and the total loss of control of the NEC by your unelected scally parachuted in as your puppet. They even had to call the Police to restore order but the cover-story was that they were called to remove Mr. Motram or some other fantasy figure. NO ONE WAS REMOVED.

The Police managed to restore order for Paul Nuttall and the meeting continued.

Farage is clearly a moral dyslexic and will lie about anything to keep his snout in the trough – he even hires in pond life like Mark Croucher, another liar all too willing to invent stories about The BNP and unwilling to tell the same story twice about supplying details of members to the odious extremist Searchlight organisation, with its BNP style methods of witch hunts, break ins and criminality to support their self serving aims.**

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU
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#512* – CLEARLY NOT FARAGE’S FINEST HOUR!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 01/06/2009


#512* – CLEARLY NOT FARAGE’S FINEST HOUR!!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

SKY’S ADAM BOLTON PROVIDES FARAGE’S FINEST HOUR – NOT!!!

Hi,

for those who watched The Adam Bolton political show on Sky to whom I have spoken it would seem that Farage was most fortunate that The Adam Bolton show did not show this clip live as they felt he came across as far from well.

The Transcript does show that but rather less dramaticly.

TRANSCRIPT

Interview Declan Ganley, Libertas & Nigel Farage, UKIP

Aired: Sunday, 31 May, 2009 10:00

Sunday Live

Any quotes used must be attributed to Sky News, Sunday Live

ADAM BOULTON:
It’s the European Parliamentary elections this week and if you are in the UK and you are not too keen on Europe and you don’t like the Conservatives then two parties are actually focusing on the whole question of Europe from a sceptical angle. There is Libertas and I’m joined now from Mullingar in County Westmeath in Ireland by their founder, Declan Ganley, who is actually standing in Ireland although he has candidates in many countries in these 27 nation European elections and also I am also joined here in the studio by the UK Independence Party’s leader, Nigel Farage, MEP. Why you rather than Libertas, Nigel?

NIGEL FARAGE:
Libertas, I mean look, well done Declan Ganley for fighting the Lisbon Treaty in Ireland and the referendum, that’s good and I wish him well in his seat but the big difference is Declan Ganley believes in the EU and believes in membership of the EU, thinks it can be reformed and changed but that this treaty doesn’t take it in quite the right direction. That position is pretty much identical to that of David Cameron’s. Our position in UKIP is look, we want to trade with Europe, be friendly in Europe, co-operate with our next door neighbours but not be part of a political union and we are the only party offering that option.?

ADAM BOULTON:
Declan Ganley, you are pretty much the same as David Cameron only obviously less well known.?

DECLAN GANLEY:
Well we are very different to David Cameron and the Labour party. What Nigel is saying insofar as we are not against the European Union is correct, we’re not. The European Union needs dramatic reform, it needs it now. The fact is that the expense scandal that is going on in Brussels dwarfs that that is going on in the UK. In fact Nigel’s own party has had around a quarter of its members either investigated or indeed having been convicted of fraud and various other misdemeanours that are expense related. The fact is …?

ADAM BOULTON:
Whereas you … carry on.?

DECLAN GANLEY:
The fact is, is that Europe needs to be reformed, it needs to be reformed now. We have successfully defeated the Lisbon Treaty in Ireland, UKIP, the Tories, Labour, none of them have executed successful reform in the European Parliament. They talk about it, they talk a good game but they cannot deliver. We are running candidates across most of the member states of the European Union precisely because this is a numbers game, you need a significant number of seats in the European Parliament to be able to put the pressure on the Commission, which is ridiculously the only place that laws and regulations can be initiated. The fact is that the majority of the laws and regulations in the UK now come from Brussels, that now has to stop.?

NIGEL FARAGE:
Declan is right about the Commission … Declan is right about the Commission, it is the un-elected bureaucrats that make the laws.?

ADAM BOULTON:
The problem is you have been there with your colleagues in the European Parliament for five years, what have you achieved??

NIGEL FARAGE:
Public opinion when I was first elected showed 25-30% of Britons thought we should be outside of the Union and have a simple trade deal. It is now 55-60% and what UKIP has done is to lead that argument, lead that debate and move the …?

ADAM BOULTON:
What have you actually done in Europe with a job and the money and the expenses that you’ve had??

NIGEL FARAGE:
Oh goodness me, I exposed Commissioner Barrot as being a convicted embezzler, I am the only person in that parliament in the last ten years who has been able to get the entire commission on a motion of censure before the Parliament.?

ADAM BOULTON:
We heard David Cameron earlier saying you had voted to let Spanish fishermen into our waters.?

NIGEL FARAGE:
Amazing. Mr Cameron should check his facts. What the Tory party voted for was for 60% of the fish of the Shetland box to be caught by the French and Spanish fleets.?

ADAM BOULTON:
And how did you vote??

NIGEL FARAGE:
We voted against it, we believe that 100% of the fish of the Shetland box should be caught by British fisherman and it is a bit rich for Mr Cameron, who turned his back on a CFP policy, to criticise us on fishing.?

ADAM BOULTON:
You did take part in a vote which allowed them in didn’t you??

NIGEL FARAGE:
No, no, they were already in, it was a question of what allocation the British got and we thought that 40% in our territorial waters was not good enough.?

ADAM BOULTON:
Mr Ganley was also making the point there about politics as usual or possibly even worse as far as your MEPs are concerned. Two suspended, one …?

NIGEL FARAGE:
On expenses, on expenses, one. On expenses, one, who when it …?

ADAM BOULTON:
Mr Wise and Mr Mote.

NIGEL FARAGE:
No, Mr Mote was an entirely separate issue. On expenses one and that person, even though when he was found to have done wrong he paid all the money back, we got rid of him immediately.

ADAM BOULTON:
And you’ve got another one, Godfrey Bloom, who says he is Mr Clean, doesn’t employ his family, it turns out he employs his niece.

NIGEL FARAGE:
Extraordinary, here is Godfrey Bloom who was given £20,000 of his daily allowances to charities, I don’t think anyone is going to put a finger on him.

ADAM BOULTON:
So why did he say he didn’t employ anyone from his family?

NIGEL FARAGE:
He doesn’t employ his wife, he doesn’t employ his children, he employs a niece.

ADAM BOULTON:
He employs a niece, okay. He also says anyone who employs a woman of child bearing age needs their head examined and he actually employs two women in their 20s.

NIGEL FARAGE:
Well under, under the rules – and Alan Sugar agrees with that now too.

ADAM BOULTON:
Let’s go back to Mr Ganley. Mr Ganley, how would you, if you do get into the European Parliament, would you take your expenses?

DECLAN GANLEY:
We are going to publish our expenses on a quarterly basis online with full detailed receipted expenses. The fact is, is that it seems that many MEPs from the Labour party, from the Tory party, from UKIP, from the Liberals, seem to be in politics for money and not to serve the people. The fact is that right across Europe and very much in the UK, we want to ensure that the people of Britain get the opportunity to go in and vote for change and effective change delivered for the British people.

NIGEL FARAGE:
They are all talking about change, they are all talking reform, we’ve had thirty years of talking about reform, it’s time we cut our links and got back to governing our own country.

DECLAN GANLEY:
But the fact is that …

ADAM BOULTON:
We are going to have to leave it there, thank you both very much indeed.

To view the original article CLICK HERE

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#511* – Idris FRANCIS – BULLETIN

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 01/06/2009


#511* – Idris FRANCIS – BULLETIN


BULLETIN: FRANCIS, Idris
of: St. Meons, Near Petersfield.


On Thursday last:

Idris Francis had a fall whilst working on his car outside.

He thought he had fallen into his work pit in the garage but that does seem unlikely as the boarding planks were still in place if rather ‘displace’.

Idris does not remember the event but came into the house in a confused state and collapsed onto the settee.

In view of his condition his aunt (Win) who is more or less totally wheelchair bound at 87 was unable to assist overly much and called an ambulance.

The ambulance came and took Idris to A&E at Winchester Hospital
where he was admitted to a ward after various tests.

Chatting to Win today (SUNDAY), who I have known for around a dozen years, she tells me that although it is uncertain it does in fact seem that Idris either tripped and fell backwards or had ‘a bit of a turn’ and fell backwards, as he badly cut the back of his head and hurt his back.

The settee was ‘debrised’ with grass and bits of gravel as was his head wound, this leads to the belief that he fell at the edge of the driveway.

That this led to blood stains on the settee – Kindly be more careful in future Idris – make sure you bleed more thoughtfully 😉

Idris was released from hospital but earlier today due to impaired mobility due to back pain and a failure to be able to control the headache/pain Win felt, since she is ill equipped to act as carer, that Idris would be better cared for back in hospital and he being (as those who know him will understand) far from the best or most patient of patients is now back in Winchester Hospital.

Idris was readmitted via ambulance and A&E and after further checks is now on Freshfield Ward, where I have just spoken with the ward Sister 03:15hrs 01-Jun-2009 who advises he is sleeping without medication and is stable after a fall, with no apparent complications at this stage (as is her duty she was a bit ‘cagey’).

Fortunately Idris has good neighbours and they are keeping an eye out for Win and are doing her shopping for her and would do so for Idris when he comes out, should he need help..

The exact nature of the cause of the injury (beyond a fall) is not certain as also the actual medical damage – let us hope it is no more than bad bruising and nothing more serious.

I will be speaking with Win regularly and will pass on any relevant information.

Win is naturally concerned but does not feel that the matter is ‘serious’ for as she said ‘he is a tough enough old chap but it is hard to know how bad it is as he is a difficult patient’ – why am I not surprised 😉

Would all senior citizens reading this please be a little more mature and accept the irrefutable fact that they just don’t bounce as well as they used to!!

I have asked Win & the nursing Sister to convey best wishes from his EUroRealist friends.

Let us hope he is back to his normal self fit and confident very soon – we need him to maintain the pressure on our politicians as their conscience to get us OUT of the odious EU.

Best wishes to all.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62
if you want an update.

UPDATE:

MONDAY – 01-Jun-2009 20:15hrs.

Ashley Mote & his wife have just returned from a visit to Winchester Hospital.

They were Idris’ only visitors so far.

He is obviously in considerable pain in his back, as the fall slipped a disc which has slipped before and been replaced.

The hospital are not doing anything beyond offering painkillers. They assume he will (when well enough) go to see his own osteopath in Gloucester. At present he does not feel well enough to undertake the journey.

He also has a headache which – he has been told – may last several weeks owing to bruising of the brain from the fall. But – fortunately – there is no internal bleeding.

Otherwise he was his usual grumpy and engaging self, and for very good reason. He even managed to talk about enjoying the rest of the summer with his vintage cars, as well as producing a litany of criticism about the way the hospital is run!.

We are just down the road from his home, and have been in touch with Wyn to offer help. Immediate neighbours already in charge, so no problems for the moment.

Will keep in touch with developments, but at present Idris expects to be home in the next day or so. He will then have to allow his wounds to heal and restore his strength so that he can get to Gloucester to have his disc replaced.

By all means pass this update to anyone who has asked for news

regards,

as ever
Ashley

UPDATE:

I spoke with Ashley’s wife a couple of hours ago and have just spoken with Win and gave her such details as I could add.

Win is OK and much relieved that there seems to be no sign of bleed on the brain thus largely ruling out a stroke.

I will inform if anything needs updating – So many people know Idris from his douty performances as a heckler at the Conferences of all Political persuasions in his determination to oppose Britain’s membership of The EU.

UPDATE:

07-Jun-2015

Hi, earlier today I received the following somewhat curt communication from Idris Francis, which will please many and it was good to hear he has fully recovered but claims his aunt, his friends and others were in fact wrong!
Here are Idris Francis’ recollection of events some 6 years after the event:

Greg

I came across your web page about me by chance this evening and would be obliged if you would corrrect the following errors at
http://greglancewatkins.blogspot.co.uk/:

1/ I reversed my 1939 Alvis out of my garage, intending to polish it for the imminent national Alvis day. I walked back into the rather dark garage – I had not bothered to switch on the lights as I intended to polish the car outside – and as I walked I looked across the garage for polishing cloths, not where where I was walking.

2/ I forgot that the inspection pit over which the car had been parked did not have its boards in place due to the last job I had done on the car had involved being down in the pit.

3/ I cleary remembered, then and now, walking back into the garage, and why and I clearly remember waking up on the settee – it was only the fall I do not remember at all, though I do vaguely remember climbing back out of the pit.

4/ I also remember driving the car back into the garage, as the ambulance crew watched, and that the boards were still not in place.

5/ I made a full recovery over the following months, including a brain scan that confirmed no effect in my brain

Idris

You will note the details of the event do not exist at:

http://GregLanceWatkins.blogspot.co.UK nor at http://GregLanceWatkins.com

so i trust his update here will reassure people.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

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