#901* – IGNORE TheBNP ITS THE VILE EFD THAT ARE THE RACIST, ANTI JEWISH SCUM

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

IGNORE TheBNP ITS THE VILE EFD THAT ARE THE RACIST, ANTI JEWISH SCUM, The PAN EU POLITICAL PARTY group Managed & Promoted BY EUkip, FARAGE & CROUCHER to KILL BLACKS, HUNT HOMOSEXUALS & BURN IMMIGRANTS! That SHOULD Concern You.

John Stuart Agnew, Andrew Henry William Brons, David Campbell Bannerman, Derek Roland Clark and William (The Earl of) Dartmouth (EFD ), in writing:

UKIP is gravely concerned with the situation in Iran and calls for governments on both sides to come to a diplomatic, but above all, peaceful solution to the ongoing political and humanitarian breakdown in the country. The EU must not intervene in this situation as it will only exacerbate the tense situation. Unaccountable EU bureaucrats, instead of elected politicians leading the negotiations, will end up with a bad outcome for Iran and the rest of the world. Negotiations should be taken in cooperation with other national governments, not forced upon from above by the EU. There are many countries wanting to stay neutral, such as Ireland, and the EU representing those countries on this issue seriously undermines their democratically-backed policy. B7-0078/2010

Much is being made of the above details from the EU site of The EFD’s MEPs.

The interesting fact is that Andrew Henry William Brons is seemingly listed as an EFD member with what were EUkip MEPs- although this would not be astonising in fact not even the slightest surprise as the EFD is far more racist, more openly anti Jewish and just as hung up on being sexually repressive as the BNP.

Howevere I would hazard a guess at the probability that this is in fact a listing error by some EU flunkey.

What is far more concerning is you will notice this is an example of the EU inventing foreign policy – Foreign policy the regional assembly at Westminster will just rubber stamp because the British Government has decided in Brusells on the strenth of a pointless vote after a meaningless debate where usually the best EFD/EUkip MEPs can muster is childish rundness to no value in liberating these United Kingdoms..

Yet more interesting was the fact that at the Strasbourg pleiniary (the grandiose title they give for reading out what the unelected Commissars have decided) Then delivering lots of sound bite speeches for reporting by the salesmen – MEPs – in handouts to pretend there is some value in their existence (Farage of course will, if he gets a chance, be childish and inane being gratuitously rude to some irrelevant apparatchik rather than addressing leaving the EU).

They will all then have a pretend vote as it is on a block basis.

BUT
On Tuesday we note from The EU record that the pleiniary was discussing North Sea Fish & Fishing – probably on behalf of some great maritime Nation like Austria or Lichtenstein BUT the interesting thing to note was that although Nigel Farage is on that committee Anna Rosbach was the Raporteur for the motion on behalf of The EFD – a position she had been able to buy with deHont points ceded to her by EUkip so that she had the clout to call the shots on what WE THE BRITS do in The North Sea.

Rosebat is the side kick MEP to he rvolting pro Nazi EUkip associate on The EFD of Morten Messerschmidt.

It gets more interesting that recently one of these two at least was arrested and I believe they are currently on bail pending prosecution for criminal activities – well that puts EUkip in good company as I believe the files on 5 of them have been or are in transit to the British authorities subsequent to an OLAF enquiry in which OLAF have seemingly adjudged there are cases to answer in the Courts – I am given to understand files on Roger Knapman (probably for funding John Bufton as the RO for EUkip Wales) also Gulleford probably for funding his Mother or involvement in data protection crimes with Titford whose file is also in the heap as is Don Ransome the RO for Clark and a part time taxi driver paid £800 a week by Clark to manage the party in the East Midlands (surely for £800 a week he could have found someone competent and reliable!).

However you may find Gulleford may have not used his stage name where he rides two opposing horses as a failed circus act working for David Lord Stoddart and doing not a lot beyons the parasitic for EUkip but his own name and they may well have a file on Gollom for his perversions with cats – he wanders round his garden sniffing the seats for the smell of tom cats we are informed by his local paper!

Anyway Anna Rosebat representing EUkip as the EFD managed the event to a vote and the motion was passed.

If having presented the Motion the EFD felt it worthwhile to use points EUkip could have used (if they were not given away to buy members to enrich Farage) WHY DID EUkip voters ABSTAIN?

If as raporteur the EFD was acting on behalf of Britain why did it not also abstain?

THIS TIME it is no big deal beyond who do the EFD actually represent?

CONSIDER: The EU High Representative representing the interests of The UK – because Britain is not considered capable of having a foreign policy any more, having been betrayed by our politicians – well it seems the Emperor of Foreign Policy as far as Britain is concerned will represent us in negotiations with Argentina will be a Spanish woman!

What will be the position of the untrustworthy and dishonest Spanish cheat from Argentina in the EFD do – Marta Andreasen

Since the relationship between Spain and Britain is far from cordial because of their historic and dishonest attempts to steal Gibraltar against all concepts of historiacal right or democratic preferences of the inhabitants – with that level of morality in terms of Foreign policy what do you think these odious Spanish are likely to do on our behalf – will they emmulate France and supply the Argentinians with Excocettes or the Belgians and at the height of battle threaten not to supply bullets – these continental rabble are our rivals and some our enemies – The entire EU scam is a farce bound to fail.

Had EUkip had the integrity and dignity to stand alone they would have had far more clout than using all our deHont points to buy numbers for Farage’s personal enrichment.

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correctly & The EU corrected their clerical error.
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Dismayed to have been associated with the spineless hypocrites of UKIP

A clerical error by a bureaucrat in Brussels, which led to Andrew Brons being incorrectly associated with four UKIP MEPs, came to light yesterday.
The name of the British National Party MEP was attached to an explanation of vote that was posted by four UKIP MEPs.
“I have been assured that this was an innocent bureaucratic error and have no reason to doubt the integrity or honesty of the Parliament’s civil servants”, reported Andrew.
“However I was appalled and dismayed to have been associated with UKIP who I regard as the spineless hypocrites of the Establishment’s Safety Value.
“I would also like to distance myself from the anti-Iranian sentiment of much of the debate in question.
“I am concerned that the West is seeking a cause for starting a new war in the Middle East – this time against Iran.”
After Andrew Brons spent an hour on the telephone yesterday evening to a range of EU departments, he managed to get his name removed from the vote explanation and the record set straight
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TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

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#900* – EUkip for what they are – clearly unfit for purpose

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

EUkip for what they are – clearly unfit for purpose!
UKIP has been so clearly debased 
as The Racist Anti Jewish & pro EU EFD!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
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GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

#899* – CROUCHER STYLE POISON CREEPS ARE OUT IN FORCE I SEE

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

CROUCHER STYLE POISON CREEPS ARE OUT IN FORCE I SEE! The so called Skeptyk on Butcher’s sordid and dishonest Forum advocates we go and view one of the EUkip pro EFD racist and anti Jewish supporting web sites similar to the filth Croucher has come out with in the past – and the lies of The oh so Common Man (whose style oh so resembles Croucher!!)

Hi,

one of the poisonous web sites managed ostensibly by Croucher style dishonesty and smear that has over many years done so much damage to UKIP and EUroScepticism with its endless dishonest attacks on private individuals in his support of EUkip and the gutter they inhabit and now in promotion of EUkip’s open and overt affiliation and support for Racism, anti Judaism and pro EU violence – the nasty cowardly web site specialises in manufacturing dishonest smears sheltering their corrupt lies and dishonesty behind anonymity as gutless cowards do.

We note they are always brought to our attention by unpleasant and dishonest characters – usually the same ones!

This time the cowards have posted the Press Cutting from years back shortly after Gary Cartright left The RAF after his service time was finished – which I published some time back Here it is:

I felt it was apposite to comment – if a little pointless as no one reads these blogs they seem to be there to Justify Croucher’s grubby existence prostituting himself to The EFD for the EU salary – some people have no integrity do they!

Greg L-W. said…

Hi, am I missing something? So what? Correct me if I’m wrong but whilst you were beings very clever I’m sure wasn’t Cartright serving his Country in the RAF and then when he came out he had an interest – probably based on travel and experience, in politics and Joined The National Democrats standing for them briefly before moving on to join UKIP which was becoming more noticable. I gather he has served UKIP for a number of years but quit about when they amalgamated with the racists, xenophobes and anti Jewish extremists to form The Pan EU Political Party EFD grouping who are pro violence and membership of the EU. Rather than support evil surely it is honourable to distance oneself – meanwhile there are still those who are prepared to prostitute themselves and their vote to support the utterly corrupt views of The EFD. Well done Cartright at least you have some moral fibre – more than can be said for EUkip & the EFD! Regards, Greg L-W.

8 March 2010 10:23 

Gary Cartrights actions seem to have been at much the same time that Nigel Farage was negotiating with 

 

understood to be after a lunch negotiating to see what future Farage might have in a far right extremist party having been suspended from UKIP by Alan Sked – but the blog is right to show how peoples political views change.

One need only recall that not long ago Mark Croucher was colluding with the convicted criminal Jerry Gable who runs the anti democratic and unpleasant Left Wing funded  extremist Searchlight and was trading details of UKIP members with them with Farage’s approval.

Now we note that Mark Croucher is media manager for the extremist group The EFD which is largely pro EU, distinctly Racist, openly Xenophobic and anti Jewish The EFD which he is paid to promote on a grade B standard salary of around €5,000 a month is not only racist but has advocated hunting and shooting homosexuals and bombing Africans in boats – Some people will do anything for money regardless of how sordid it may be.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

#898* – EUkip’s goffers DISGRACE THE PARTY WITH LIES & SPIN

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

EUkip’s goffers THE DENNYS, CROUCHERS, MAHONEYS, MCGOUGHS, PARR their SOCK MUPPETS & THEIR ILK DISGRACE THE PARTY WITH LIES & SPIN! AS THE PARTY BEFOULES THE EUroSceptic Movement!

Hi,

having just come in and having decided to check a quote from Butcher’s gruby little forum on to comment to Steve Halden I note Septic is up early but then of course the continent is an hour ahead of us.

I note the posters self image but why use a photo of Eric Edmond?

The desperate efforts to distort and lie are so pathetic I usually ignore these muppets who – even they – are too ashamed to put their names to their lies, distortions and desparation, one can hardly blame them.

That they use multiple names and obfuscation speaks volumes of these scum – I have NEVER posted in any name but my own with intent to deceive (thats a bit muddling but I’m sure honest readers will understand my point!).

Clearly I could dishonourably hide my identity but then it would be difficult for people to contact me if they wished to correct an error – however it does leave me open to endlessly being libelled and smeared but fortunately the facts gainsay their lies time and again and as yet in 64 years no one has ever been able to establish I have ever lied or misled ANYONE deliberately or wittingly.

I stand by what I write and I try to be 100% ethical – it is sad when liars and cheats like Mark croucher seek to profit by that honesty as it is so very damaging for EUkip and those who pay him.

Let us look at what this piece of filth was too ashamed to put their name to – their posting is in blue and my comments are interleaved in black in italics:

google_protectAndRun(“ads_core.google_render_ad”, google_handleError, google_render_ad); Well as per usual, Whatkins has got onto this forum which he swears he never reads

Why the childish name does it make him feel more grown up and mature?

Where have I EVER said I don’t read Forums? I have said I frequently don’t bother as there is so little to learn and rarely does it address facts or The EU and NEVER informs in any way of value – it is the childrens’ playground for the foul mouthed, self serving and rather unpleasant squabbling members left in EUkip – few of whom one would wish EVER to meet.

and has now claimed that he has shamed UKIP into publishing their expenses.

 I do believe we did – we made it known at the beginning of the week in conversation we had obtained some of them and when I had all of them on the 3rd. I posted the first one early on Friday morning – at which time I believe you will find they were not readily available on the internet – I note you claim not to have read them until later that same day. I noted within the last 12 hours OR SO that they were up on an obscure EU web site not even linked from EUkip or their web site.

Farage lied then and he is telling lies now. These ARE NOT ACCOUNTS and they are NOT TRANSPARENCY – furthermore why have EUkip MEPs positioned themselves as EFD MEPs and distanced themselves from the party and principles which elected them?

Not quite sure of that one Gregory, seeing as I was reading them on Friday (5/3/10) and I see that neither you nor Junius had published them by then so to claim that you personally shamed UKIP into publishing this information is as fatuous and false a story as you have ever claimed, which by your standards is quite something.

Something of a failure of spin and a failure of smear that rather backfires on you doesn’t it – with lies like this no wonder you are too ashamed to put your name to them.

So for all of you on the defence fund, Whatkins, Warry, West and (depending who one spoke to) Edmond, who campaigned for transparency of UKIP

Indeed we did and I am proud to say that every one of us continues to campaign for transparency of the public purse and seek to expose the endemic and systemic theft that would appear  to be very much the ethos of EUkip – be that Farage admitting he had made around £2 million – where it is known he banked 100s of £1,000s in overseas accounts and less than 15% of the money collected via the Ashford scams ever reached the party, where £1/4 million was removed and banked in a private bank account in one instance alone.

I gather Gerard Batten’s brother is unlikely to have been unrewarded as a printer without tender – the apparent fidles run to £Millions and I presume for your lies, dishonesty and spin you are well rewarded all be it much too ashamed to put your identity to your mallevolent behaviour.

whilst denying it in return of their own accounts

I have NEVER denied them but I have unequivocally stated they are none of your damned business – none whatsoever. You are too ashamed to even put your name to your cowardly dishonesty. The day I am accountable to a sock puppet too ashamed to admit who they are is never going to come.

A private fund, contributed to privately and disbursed privately to the satisfaction of those who contributed is absolutely none of your business nor that odious, dishonest, dishonourable excrecence Mark Croucher despite the fact that you cave carried on your icestuous conversation for some 20,000 viewings to see just how very unpleasant EUkip and its staff and supporters are and just how distanced from the UKIP that existed until the likes of you befouled it.

– let UKIPs transparency reports be an example of how to be transparent.

They are as you must realise a total embarrassment not just a day late and a Dollar short but dishonest and self serving they are an object lesson in how not to behave in public office when handling public money.


Nigel Farage is seen beyond a doubt to be a liar and a cheat and his MEPs also as these are NOT accounts they are a travesty not a transparency. Even the pond life that remains in support of EUkip in its new EU based status of The EFD MEPs can only posture and prance in defence of such dishonesty on the part of the EFD MEPs.

As none of you people are in any position to judge transparency of anyone,

I can and do judge and I have every right as a tax payer funding the dishonesty of EUkip to do so and I find and believe without exception that EUkip’s remaining MEPs are criminally wanting in honesty, probity, transparency, integrity and honour – filth beneath contempt to a man.

given your own reticence to offer it on your defence fund,

I neither offer it nor proffer it and unlike EUkip MEPs who seem to have stolen £Millions between them I am not obliged to even consider casually informing you or any of the filth that supports the corruption, dishonesty and outright theft that would seem to pass for transparency in EUkip. That you choose to support corruption and do so without being man enough to identify yourself speaks volumes of the veracity and legitimacy of your behaviour.

I rather hope that you will see UKIPs example as something for you confidence tricksters to aspire to.

Clearly a libel but consider the source! A liar, a cheat and too ashamed and embarrassed to put your name to your serial dishonesty and unpleasant and childish posturing – I note you post your lies and libels in public in a sheltered Forum aided by the dishonesty of its administrators who provide a platform for filth like you to perform. Sadly it speaks volumes of just how controlled the weak and self important Anthony Butcher is that he provides such a platform for you to lie and defame without one shred of factual evidence of any consequence you are a vile creep and he is little better.

Anyway, seeing as the UKIP reports were for 6months,

I note you no longer pretend they were accounts and clearly they show Farage to have lied and gained votes in May based on deception – why are we not surprised.

I would imagine that we will get the first half of this years report sometime in the summer.

But when will we get the Quarterly ACCOUNTS promised and when will there be an honest attempt at transparency?

I very much doubt such accounts will be forthcoming and it is unlikely they will materialise once EUkip as a party is transfered to being The EFD and it is wuld up unable to honour the debts Farage and his corrupt cronies earned and saDDLED THE MISBEGOTTEN nec WITH.

A good start from UKIP – long may it continue

An abject failure on the part of EUkip – dishonestly manipulated obfuscation on an alien web site distanced from the members and electorate and in breech of any spirit of integrity and honour in the lies of Nigel Farage – transparency can not be expected to continue – there is no sign it has commenced.


Skeptic – whoever you are you are not just a disgrace to the EUroSceptic movement you are an excrecence to mankind.

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RESPONSE ADDED AT C04:00hrs. 09-Mar-2010

SKEPTIC:
Clearly in cowardice – aware that they were unable to give an honest answer made a posting that is so typically another pack of lies – as shown to be the Croucher style – all dishonest spin and total lack of substance!

A style of behaviour which has almost finally destroyed EUkip befouled by such dishonesty and corruption.

Here is the unpleasant little cowards wheedling to try to justify their dishonesty:

Right then, I know this might be slightly off-topic and for that I apologise, but seeing as Whatkins has chosen to respond on his blog to my points made earlier, I feel it apposite to respond – I can’t be bothered emailing him or putting a comment in the necessary bits on his blog for I think I know he will not show what I write or will at least edit my comments in his favour.

Well I guess it is an attempt to justify which one would expect a coward and a liar to use – too ashamed to put his name to his wheedling dishonesty – why are we not surprised, it is so very typical of EUkip.

To date, despite the lies and bluster these cowardly liars in Croucher’s style have proved completely unable to identify a single consequential error on ANY of my blogs or ‘e’Mails.

Stop telling lies you sordid little coward.

I cannot see him responding to this as to do so would admit his lies on at least one count but I shall let you judge;

Why might I not? I have frequently offered to attend a meeting near my area and am happy to face any form of adult cross examination you may wish in public. To imply otherwise is totally dishonest of you and so very cowardly.

I have NEVER refused to meet – ask BobFM who was too cowardly to meet as it fitted his image to lie about me and was clearly scared of the truth.

EUkip’s present North Swindon candidate has also declined a debate stating he lacks the facts to debate – yet he wants to be an MP!!!

He really does seem to believe that there is no standard too low to adopt to fulfil his ambitions – he even finds it acceptable to help the vile Racist, violent and anti Jewish pro EU EFD – just how low has EUkip sunk!

Right first of all Whatkins – forgive my spelling, but anyone who refers to people as the BobFM

 Check through the record on Butcher’s sordid forum and even a coward like you will find you have yet again lied – I doubt you will have the integrity to put your identity to your lies and appologise.

or The Desk

& why not – there is a clear relevance in that the ONLY plausible link to the Liberal Prime Minister  over 100 years ago that David Bannerman was EVER able to clearly establish was that his Father had owned the man’s desk.

That David Bannerman has been proven a liar and a cheat is thus irrefutable as he NEVER managed to provide one shred of documentary evidence to substantiate his dishonest claim – but made much of it to cheat the electorate.

There is mre likelihood that David Bannerman is the illegitimate son of either his Mother or his Father as he has still not provided his full birth certificate and seems not to be registered when he claims in The India Book – there is much reason to believe he is a fraud and strangely was unable to remember any details of a part of his claimed schoolin/education.

That the VERY BEST this dishonest little creep could achieve to identify himself was to cheat and lay claim to ownership of a desk!!

So another failure of dishonest spin so typical of EUkip and the Croucher style.

really isn’t in any position to pull people over spelling of one’s name –

Spell my name how you like if it empowery you as clearly you are too cowardly even to use yours.

anyway, can I ask re the accounts; do you honestly think that the accounts were hurriedly compiled and published online as a way to pre-empt your claim to have received Clark’s accounts.

No – did you? I know they have been around for some time – that I made it known I had them and although EUkip/EFD knew they were clearly inadequate and thus had not posted them.

Nowhere was the information realistically available on the web – they still aren’t!

I published the outline of Deadwood Derek’s overnight on the Thursday – YOU CLAIM, but too cowardly to put your name to it, that you found the material on the Friday – some days later you claim to have read the material! I do not believe any part of your story as you would have flagged them up on the Friday and also would have realised they were utterly irrelevant and wholly inadequate.

I know on many facts you are a liar and I also believe you have lied here.

What is YOUR excuse for Farage’s lies and the EFD/EUkip failure to make their so called ‘Transparency’ transparent having hidden them on an obscure web site where the MEPs are clearly gone native.

Are you suggesting that these figures were drawn from thin air as an immediate way to counteract your publishing of Clark’s accounts.

No and neither did I claim they did.

Do you honestly think that someone in UKIP though ‘Quick, Whatkins has Clark’s accounts, lets get some out there before he releases them all’. Get real.

Very Real and it does clearly look as if EUkip had its hand forced. It matters not as they failed to honour Farage’s promise.

Do you happen to know if they ever intend to act ethically and publish their accounts as promised?

And as I have said earlier, I would find it highly amusing if you people actually paid someone to provide the accounts of an MEP who’s details were online already.

What a foolish idea when there are so many staff and members who are disgusted by EUkip’s behaviour and have supplied material consistently. I appreciate as a dishonest coward you may find it hard to trust others but be assured I have NEVER paod for any EUkip information nor EVER been paid for information about EUkip.

But as you claim that in these figures are ‘unconvincing’, can I suggest that you log your concerns with the appropriate authorities

What authority might you suggest – you will be aware that I am in contact with various authorities over the lies, corruption, dishonesty, frauds,, embezellments and thefts as perceived of EUkip. Have you any suggestions as to who you may have notified what YOU perceive to be a crime to?

That I make material facts known on my various blogs clear and honestly portrayed proves adequate for some authorities and press to further investigate. I have never been concerned about the numbers who read my blogs I have been very flattered by the calliber who do and just howmany contact me and use the material – as with the imprisonment of Tom Wise – I tend not to let go. I also make a point of only publishing the truth – hence my blog has a following who know they can count on the facts.

I appreciate there are those who find my style not to their choice but when they decide to pay me I might consider their opinions! One advantage of not having to lick another man’s boots!

In my inportunity it would seem I have achieved the independence for which some Millionaires strive!

– if they have stated they would provide such figures quarterly, then they do deserve some criticism for not fulfilling that obligation.

They stated some 10 years ago they would provide accounts – in 2004 Farage PROMISED transparency and accounts.

In May, as I have shown, Farage PROMISED EACH elected Officer would provide accounts in full quarterly for transparency as an antedote to his claimed dishonesty of MPs.

When will a EUkip/EFD MEP publish his FIRST set of Qiarterly ACCOUNTS – rather than this insulting twaddle dashed out seemingly because I had obtained copies and was publishing them.

But as it is, I shall accept the figures they have given us – you wanted transparency, they have given you the transparency you have asked for and even then you complain.

Since you know nothing of integrity, honesty or morality and lack even the decency to put your identity to you lies and smears I care not whether you are fobbed off with this dishonest attempt at obfuscation.

Indeed I do complain they are already proven to be dishonest – they have shown that they are willing to collude in fraud – they have betrayed the electorate, not I – It is they who are liars Racists, anti Jewish, sexually intollerant advocates of violence as members of The EFD dishonestly assisting the EU and those who have chosen membership of the EU within the EFD.

It is they who are clearly achieving NOTHING of value for the peoples of Britain and have betrayed our Country and those who voted for them Indeed I complain at the fact they promised their full accounts 1/4ly in a move of transparency – when might we expect them to commence?

And i might add they have shown a darn sight more transparency than you gave as well!!!

The difference being your concern at a private matter, showing your misunderstanding of accounts and the difference between public funding and funding by voluntary contribution by members of the public. Further you conveniently fail, no doubt deliberately and dishonestly to recall it was made clear to donors that the fund would be confidential – YOu have neither a right nor any claim to information under any circumstances even were you less of a coward and put your name to your underhand behaviour and clear dishonesty.

But for those who do think that Whatkins has credibility and has never, ever, ever lied, please look at these two quotes from Whatkins regarding the ‘defence fund’ he is so keen to keep hidden (despite asking the general public to donate) and ask yourself how on God’s earth can both of these statements be true. At the very least, one is a lie… For the record, these statements were made a few weeks apart…

I shall leave it to Niall warry to point out YET AGAIN, your dishonesty and your stupidity – not to forget your abject failure to identify the lie you dishonesty claim

Originally Posted by GLW

John West at no stage in time received a single penny piece as cash or cheque, nor any other sum of money, from the so called defence fund, Niall Warry or myself towards ANY legal costs he may have incurred in seeking to expose the corruption of EUkip nor UKIP nor any individual therein – either for past cases, current cases or ongoing cases. There was NEVER an intent to fund his costs, particularly in the light of the Sanders findings! source: Junius on UKIP: Greg Lance-Watkins on the lies of Mark Croucher

 

Originally Posted by GLW

Anyway – at last herewith John West’s statement on todays resounding victory and he asked how he could pay off the money he had received from the defence fund that had aided him throughout but we have declined as the donations were made in good faith and he had acquitted his end of the bargain by his efforts to clean up EUkip in the intention of TRYING to make it electable, which clearly it is not in any rational or honourable way. – source: CATERPILLARS and BUTTERFLIES: #759* – EUkip EARNS ANOTHER GUILTY VERDICT!

 

Gregory – why would John West offer to repay monies he got from the defence fund when a few weeks earlier, you emphatically said he never received any and not only that, was never intended to receive any…

VERY SIMPLE – Here is Niall Warry’s reply provided yet again!

Your query is very simple to answer and has been answered by me before.

As GLW said JW did not receive any money towards any legal costs which is not to say he did not receive money for his out of pocket expenses which is what he offered to try and repay but we declined his offer.

I have tried to avoid re-entering your world of spin and distortion on this matter but I felt the above comment appropriate just to prove what a merchant of spin you are and how quite frankly there is no level to which you will not stoop to distort things for your own ends.

My thanks to Niall – for the record I would incline to ignore Mark Croucher’s dishonesty, spin and lies in future and particularly thos of the sock muppets too dishonest and cowardly put their names to their lies and distortions.

 I get a feeling he won’t answer these queries…

Septic – why would I not be prepared to reply as having told the truth throughout I have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of unlike you who are so ashamed of your behaviour you are unwilling to put your identity to it.

You are a liar as proven, you are a coward as proven, you are duplicitous and dishonest as proven – You have all the answers such filth might reasonably expect to receive.

I doubt you will have the integrity or morality to post the whole of this blog which exposes you for the filth you clearly are on Butcher’s Forum – I expect you to take the cowards option and try to get the Croucher identity or one of the other sock muppets to try to justify your behaviour and claim you could not post all of this on the forum for some invented technical reason – as you really are beneath contempt in all your vile personnas.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

#897* – EUkip ITS LIARS & SOCK MUPPETS

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

EUkip ITS LIARS & SOCK MUPPETS SEEMINGLY FUNDED AND CONTROLLED TO SUPPORT THE RACIST PR EU ANTI JEWISH EFD!

Hi,

I thought I would dispel the myths and lies of Mark Croucher who is now paid by the EU to promote the racist, anti Jewish, xenophobic, advocates and practicioners of violence of the Pan EU Political Party EFD grouping which is largely pro EU membership many of whose members voted FOR the NEW CONSTITUTION of the EU called The Lisbon Treaty.

Mark Croucher and various other liars and dissemblers like Stuart Parr and various sock muppets supporting Nigel Farage in many cases for money as hired praise singers and even some who have believed the lies, the spin and the betrayal of these United Kingdoms by EUkip as it is propagandised by the collective scum of the EFD.

Please note below is a comment put on Nikki Sinclaire’s web site in July 2009 which I whole heartedly endorse.

Following that is an outline of The EFD – which I unequivocally repudiate.

You may have noticed, despite the lies and spin of Mark Croucher and his muppets that I have never in well over a dozen years of supporting UKIP, I have NEVER materially and wittingly lied or misled ANYONE. They are unable to find an instance when I have so much as altered my position of implacable opposition to membership of the EU and furthermore every action I have taken has been at my own and of course Lee’s expense.

Whilst sordid little people in EUkip betrayed our Country for personal gain, in some cases huge personal gain I have received 2 cheques for £100 each from private individuals and a replacement computer when mine was indubitably damaged by the agents of the authorities.

To return to the EFD saga – in August I announced my belief that Nikki Sinclaire would be likely to part company with The EFD on principle and ethical grounds, in the light of having read a little of the Pan EU Political Party EFD grouping that was in its early stages – I cautioned it would be an error and damaging to UKIP if Farage was allowed to indulge himself by forming the Party group.

About a week before the start of the new session of the new Parliament I made it clear I believed that Sinclaire would not sell out her moral principles and that I hoped EUkip would have sufficient honourable MEPs to force Farage to reconsider – Sadly EUkip does not have a single solitary honourable MEP now that Sinclaire has left and they have all sold out any principles they MAY have had.

Without exception EUkip MEPs are scum, mostly more stupid but clearly no less unethical and dishonest, corrupt and self serving than TheBNP who Mark Croucher and Nigel Farage went to such lengths to raise the profile of during the EU elections and before – now we see why, now they have formed a Pan EU Political Party EFD group more racist even than The VILE BNP.

It may interest or embarrass you to know that every step of the slide into the gutter was predicted in some accuracy a dozen years – I even stated that in a desparate last ditch attempt EUkip would take a populist lurch to seek the support of the lowest common denominator – and indeed there can not be a person of honour and integrity who is not disgusted by EUkip’s lurch to racism and their transparent bid for the gutter of politics rivaling The BNP for the ‘knee jerk’ racist vote with their vociferous and offensive braying at 1,000 to 1,500 women who, some through choice others through it being forced upon them, wear the Burqa, Niqab or Hijab.

This is just following in the footsteps of The Nazi Party in the 1920s & 30s when they stirred up hatred against Jews to elevate themselves – Like the Nazi Party EUkip got elected on promises it has rneged on falsehoods that it built on and principles it does not have and just like the Nazi Party it changed its tune and the rules once elected to do all it could to stay in power or in the case of EUkip stay with their snouts in the best troughs on the Gravy Train – regardless of morality.

You may remember that as a result of close following of EUkip I predicted Sinclaire’s moves – frequently before she made them. I published her meeting with Pearson for dinner within hours of Farage knowing, I published Pearson’s comments shortly after he had told Farage. I predicted Farage’s lies and temper tantrum rather embarrassingly about a day before he had them (he is very very predictable!) I published his vile attempt at blackmail and that he had admitted that Croucher was employed to scurry round the gutters picking up any crumb to keep Farage in office – including blackmail.

You will remember I published Sinclaire’s bankruptcy shortly after it had happened – Croucher to try to impress his master resurected this old and irrelevant history. A sordid little man utterly without morality who has shown he is prepared to prostitute himself in any gutter be it Searchlight and its anti democratic criminality or the Racist and anti Jewish EFD.

You will note I published Farage’s behaviour throughout and it was clear it would come to a head at the first NEC meeting in January  which I predicted about 14 days before hand – And it did having been picked up on shortly after by Junius.

In desparation whilst £Millions have gone missing in EUkip and Farage admitted to personally profiting by about £2 million and 100s of £1,000s have seemingly been perloined the fatuous Croucher has conversations with lap tops to generate a desparate attempt to try to dream up some conspiracy over the collection of funds suggested by me and managed largely by Niall Warry – Croucher’s efforts to build a case has been risible – not least as it was NOT public money, every single person who domated was entirely happy and it was absolutely none of this vile little ‘Peeping Tom’s’ business.

Clearly there was no material inpropriety and no one ever believed there was but the sordid little Croucher has tried to imply there was some sort of impropriety – he and those who are paid in one form or another were the only contributors to the thread who kept this dead topic alive 20,000 viewings and 873 postings and not a single solitary example of material impropriet can you or your muppets show – NOT ONE so there have been 20,000 viewings that have had the opportunity to see you for the unpleasant weedling little liar you are – Well done, how do you imagine that has done anything but harm UKIP and oh so typical of EUkip.

Stand back and try to empathise whith how an honourable man of some integrity might view the postings of yourself, Douglas Denny, Mahoney, Baron, Septic, and the other EUkip supporting muppets with their vile language, anally retentive obsessions, offensive uncorroborated attacks and serial dishonesty – just how can such unpleasant people consistently and unpleasantly abusing private individuals show EUkip for anything but the untrustworthy, dishonourable gutter snipes they quite clearly are.

Do you believe this enhances membership or its caliber?

Here is Nikki Sinclaire’s commentary on the odious EFD – sheduled to become Farage’s vehicle when it becomes a fully fledged Pan EU Political Party in November when EUkip collapses in ruins due to the massive debts Farage has incurred with his posturing and dishonesty – particularly appropos The Electoral Commission – just how will the party fund the £1.2 million or so debt Farage and Andrew Smith with help from some bit players have EARNED.

The Group is open to Members that subscribe to a Europe of Freedom and Democracy and acknowledge the United Nations Declaration on Human Rights and parliamentary democracy.

The Group subscribes to the following programme:

1. Freedom and co-operation among people of different States
Committed to the principles of democracy, freedom and co-operation among Nation States, the Group favours an open, transparent, democratic and accountable co-operation among sovereign European States and rejects the bureaucratisation of Europe and the creation of a single centralised European superstate.

2. More democracy and respect of People’s will
Convinced that the legitimate level for democracy lies with the Nation States, their regions and parliaments since there is no such thing as a single European people; the Group opposes further European integration (treaties and policies) that would exacerbate the present democratic deficit and the centralist political structure of the EU. The Group favours that any new treaties or any modification of the existing treaties are to be submitted to the peoples’ vote through free and fair national referenda in the Member States. The Group does believe that the legitimacy of any power comes from the will of its Peoples and their right to be free and democratically ruled.

3. Respect for Europe’s history, traditions and cultural values
Peoples and Nations of Europe have the right to protect their borders and strengthen their own historical, traditional, cultural and religious values. The Group rejects xenophobia, anti-Semitism and any other form of discrimination.

4. Respect for national differences and interests: Freedom of votes
Agreeing on embodying these principles in its proceedings, the Group respects the freedom of its delegations and Members to vote as they see fit.


SINCLAIRE’s more recent posting on her web site

To see the original on her web site CLICK HERE

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

#894* – Stuart PARR HAS MUCH TO HIDE – I WELCOME THE TRUTH OPENLY!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Stuart PARR HAS MUCH TO HIDE – I WELCOME THE TRUTH OPENLY! IT IS CLEAR THAT CORRUPT COWARDS LIKE Stuart PARR ARE THE USEFUL IDIOTS ON WHO THE EU DEPEND!

Nikki Sinclaire: What is the truth.”

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Steve Halden said…

It is time to concentrate on fighting the 2010 General Election. The time is right. Never have the big three been in such disarray. This opportunity might never come again.

5 March 2010 21:45

pop said…

Membership of EU demands unpleasant and unacceptable compromises – that is why we must leave it. As our MEPs fight a rearguard action defending our interests while we arrange to withdraw (as best each of them can) I guess there will be casualties – I hope it all comes good in the end…

5 March 2010 22:10

Northwesten Blog said…

so wait let me get this straight she got shafted by the UKIP party? i am a little confused here (Because I tired) can someone explain in simple terms for me?

6 March 2010 02:00

Anonymous said…

Nikki should now step down and let someone else take her place. We have an election to fight and if she can’t agree to what she signed up to then there’s no point in dragging this out. Nikki, if you’re reading this, do the honourable thing and let the next on the list take your place. We have a campaign to run.

6 March 2010 02:43

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This post has been removed by a blog administrator. (Item 01 in this thread which the cowardly and dishonest Stuart Parr shows himself to be a liar and a cheat by removing follows in italics the post the cowardly little chappie deleted:   Greg L-W. has left a new comment on the post “Nikki Sinclaire: What is the truth.“: Hi, pop asked for details: sadly in persuit of personal goals it would seem that EUkip has lost all principles and allied itself as a racist, anti Jewish, xenophobic group which supports membership of the EU and advocates violence. I regret these are irrefutable facts as shown by direct and fully sourced data regarding The EFD available at: http:EFD-EU.blospot.com there will be the corrupt and dishonest who seek to lie and suppress this inconvenient truth but denial of free speech does not alter the truth – however corrupt those able to delete the truth are. As a supporter of UKIP for over a dozen years I find it sad that it is no longer fit for purpose. Regards, Greg L-W.)

6 March 2010 02:49

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Greg L-W. has left a new comment on the post “Nikki Sinclaire: What is the truth.“: Anonymous Anonymous said…Nikki should now step down and let someone else take her place. We have an election to fight and if she can’t agree to what she signed up to then there’s no point in dragging this out. Nikki, if you’re reading this, do the honourable thing and let the next on the list take your place. We have a campaign to run. Hi, there being no meaningful training in 17 years and no sign of a campaign or preparation when you consider Scotland has just disbanded EUkip Yoof over money problems centred around the untrained and inept Duffy, with the East Midlands RO having just lost his licence to drink and having resigned as a PPC but still happy to draw £800 a week when there is only £700 in the kitty for the entire regions ‘Campaign’. Now we have the imbecilic shambols of Pearson’s abject failure of leadership with Farage’s self serving tantrams and blackmail. Perhaps someone can explain why Britain would vote for or even need another racist anti Jewish Party the EFD/EUkip. That Sinclaire is the ONLY UKIP MEP of principle whilst the EUkip MEPs seek a collective backbone – do explain what action Sinclaire was expected to take to appease the corrupt racists etc. Sinclaire was after all EUkip’s third largest backer in the last 1/4 yet Farage has banked more in his Isle of Man bank account in one single cheque than he has given the party in 17 years (£250,000!). I appreciate £30K a year of the money for EUkip has been given to his wife. The lack of vision, lack of professionalism and endless smearing from the low lifes gathered around Farage beggars belief from a party we all had such hopes of! Regards, Greg L-W. http://CaterpillarsAndButterflies.blogspot.com Please accept I appreciate that to suppress the truth this will probably be removed but I care enough about UKIP that if ONE person sees it before the supporters of evil remove it, clearly it was worth the effort. G.)

6 March 2010 03:29

Steve Halden said…

Greg L-W During the second world war the allies included USA and Soviet Union fighting on the same side. Lets face it these two countries genuinely hated each others guts. But when you are in a fight for your survival, sometimes even enemies join forces to fight an even worse common enemy.

6 March 2010 09:35

Steve Halden said…

Greg L-W It may be that you and me disagree on many subjects but we are facing a very serious common enemy here, the European Union. I have heard your name banded about on the Democracy Forum but I have never actually responded to one of your posts before. As I see it, we are in life and death battle for the very survival of Britain as an independent country. You and me should be fighting shoulder to shoulder against the common foe.

6 March 2010 09:43

wonkotsane said…

Steve, there’s no point trying to engage Greg Limp-Wrist in reasonable debate about UKIP, he is 100% committed to destroying UKIP for his EU paymasters. (as ever the cowardly and dishonest Stuart Parr is unable to provide a single fact to corroborate his uncalled for and gratuitous dishonesty. His use of playground name calling sets his intellectual tone! He continues with a lie as the many over the years will happily attest, he of course has never tried probably aware he lacks the ability or the knowledge so to do!

Whilst he has done nothing for the party save that which is good for him perhaps he would care to explain HONESTLY how the party survived and Titford was elected leader!

Of making his accusation perhaps he could provide a single instance where I have sought to ‘destroy’ UKIP – just one to back his lies!

The libel that I am employed by the EU or anyone whatsoever is a cowardly and dishonest claim which he is unable to either substantiate or even show reasonable belief. Stuart Parr is quite clearly both a coward, juvenile in behaviour and a liar of little experience or competence politically – FILTH)

6 March 2010 09:47

Steve Halden said…

Battle for Britain We are now in the “Battle for Britain.” Just as during the second world war the enemy is a rapidly expanding European Empire. What is making this battle even harder is that we are also fighting the enemy within. The enemy within are those MPs that voted through the Lisbon Treaty, and never gave us the promised referendum. Not only are we fighting a very sophisticated enemy, the European Union, but we are also fighting the three main parties here in Britain.

6 March 2010 09:52

Steve Halden said…

Wonkotsane Every time I come into contact with a new person, they all start with a clean slate as far as I am concerned. Everyone I meet has the fair chance to support me, or oppose me. Greg L-W is new to my acquaintance and I hope that he will understand that we are both on the same side in this fight. Whatever the outcome I will listen carefully and honestly to what he has to say and then make up my own mind. As long as we both agree that the European Union is the common enemy,then that is all I could possible ask of anyone, in this fight for the survival of Britain as an independent sovereign country.

6 March 2010 10:05

Steve Halden said…

Oh I see the posts from Greg L-W have been deleted.

6 March 2010 10:11

Steve Halden said…

I believe we should be discussing the big general election campaign issues now. I am the UKIP prospective parliamentary candiate for Swindon North. The main tenets of my campaign are:- British jobs for British workers British fish for British fishermen British investment in British industry Warm smoking rooms in pubs and clubs and I want a referendum on the new EU Treaty.

6 March 2010 10:19

Steve Halden said…

A referendum on the new EU Treaty was promised during the 2005 General Election. This promise of a referendum was not was not kept.

6 March 2010 10:22

wonkotsane said…

Yes, the Greg-LW comments have been deleted as he’s simply an anti-UKIP EU troll. He’s one of the anti-UKIP Junius bloggers.

6 March 2010 10:27

Steve Halden said…

There are three main differences between UKIP and all the other major parties. Independence Open Borders Crime

6 March 2010 10:42

Steve Halden said…

Independence UKIP wants an independent sovereign parliament here in Britain. The three big parties all want an EU federal government based in Brussels, that makes 70% of British laws.

6 March 2010 10:45

Steve Halden said…

Open Borders UKIP wants a five year halt to immigration so that we can settle the ones already here into jobs and houses, before we let more in. The three major parties all believe in wide open borders. The big three parties agree that all 500 million EU citizens should have unlimited rights to enter Britain, to live and work.

6 March 2010 10:49

Steve Halden said…

Labour’s Points System This is a complete con trick on the voters. The points system will not apply to EU citizens, so it will have zero effect on mass immigration from the European Union. All 500 million EU citizens will still have unrestricted access to enter Britain even when Labours points system is up and running. Labour’s points system is a complete con trick to confuse the voters.

6 March 2010 10:54

Steve Halden said…

Crime UKIP is tough on crime, and wants criminals to serve their full sentence. The three big parties are all soft on crime. They only want criminals to serve half their sentence. And serve their time in luxury watching TVs in jail.

6 March 2010 10:57

Steve Halden said…

Big 3 Soft on Crime Just look at any newspaper and see the puny sentinces given for very serious crimes these days. And on top of this Labour has been letting people out early. Prisoners on early release have committed 3 murders. Plus many rapes and violent crime were committed by prisoners our on early release schemes.

6 March 2010 11:02

Steve Halden said…

So that is the main diferences between UKIP and the 3 big parties. Independence Open Borders Crime

6 March 2010 11:04

Steve Halden said…

Greg L-W I hope you take the time to read my postings and realise that we are in fact both on the same side. We are both fighting a common enemy. THE EUROPEAM UNION is our common enemy and we must unite against it, if we are to win.

6 March 2010 11:06

Fausty said…

Nikki Sinclaire was a liability to UKIP. Barmy, frankly! Good riddance, I say. Her broadcast confirmed that she does not have the party’s or the country’s interests at heart. Every party has its rogue elements – and Nikki is certainly one.

6 March 2010 15:11

pop said…

Fausty what does your comment add? My priority is to make parliament supreme again — I am undecided as to whether this issue actually makes any difference to that one way or the other… I suspect that 99% of the people I’l be talking too will never have heard of Nikki (I hadn’t till I joined the party) so the details of any disagreement etc will be equally irrelevant to them. This is not a comment on the situation itself, just my thoughts on the impact it will (or won’t) have on our objectives…

6 March 2010 18:16

Greg L-W. said…

Hi, Steve – sorry you are ahving YOUR freedom of speech controlled by EUkip but as by now you seem aware EUkip’s only defence against the truth is to seek to smear the messenger and lie. You will note little Stuart Parr’s basic dishonesty and inability to debate and clear inability to provide facts or corroboration of his dishonesty. I was opposing membership of the EU when he was still in nappies and not just intellectually so! Whilst usefull idiots play childish games you are welcome to contact me off line 01291 – 62 65 62 where I will do anything I can to oppose membership of the EU and also to try to make UKIP electable by rooting out the corruption, racism and self interest of EUkip’s leadership and the well rewarded sycophants they have in place as praise singers. As you will be aware I will happily defend my beliefs and principles toe to toe with anyone in public, supported by facts, provenance and cross referencing – clearly I can not do so when faced with the dishonesty and inadequacy of people like Stuart Parr. If I can help YOU please do not hesitate to contact me. Regards, Greg L-W.

6 March 2010 21:53

Steve Halden said…

Fausty said…

pop said…

Greg L-W. said…

PLEASE ADVERTISE US ON YOUR WEB SITE
LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE

http://www.Leave-the-EU.org.UK

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6 March 2010 21:53

 

pop said…

Greg – if you want the UK out of the EU, thats great, go to it. Don’t let yourself be distracted by anything – its a waste of energy that could be used opposing the EU. A tug of war expends massive energy and achieves little – if we all pull in the same direction (against the EU) we will make progress — we don’t *have* to like each other…

6 March 2010 21:59

wonkotsane said…

Greg Limp-Wrist, cut the bullshit – your aim is not to make UKIP “electable” as you put it, your aim is to undermine UKIP for your EU paymasters. I’ll delete any comment you post here so why not save yourself (and me) the effort by keeping your lies and irrational hatred of UKIP supporters to your anti-UKIP blogs and let those of us who really oppose the EU get on with things? (Ever the coward little Stuart Parr resorts to lies, smears and name calling – not a fact he can show to support his dishonesty – still he can note cite a single solitary anti UKIP comment I have EVER made – nor is he able to cite a single solitary action he has EVER taken against The EU)

6 March 2010 22:08

Anoneumouse said…

Question? Has NIKKI been shafted by the party leadership? Like an IN or OUT question a YES or NO will suffice. My vote is dependant on a one word answer.

6 March 2010 23:00

Fausty said…

Pop, I’m glad Nikki Sinclair is little known by voters! What did my post add? As I said, I believe she is a liability to UKIP. If we want UKIP to succeed, we don’t need people of her ilk representing it! Most people I speak to about her regard her as a complete turn-off.

6 March 2010 23:53

Greg L-W. said…

Hi, Stuart Parr I was actively campaigning against EU membership almost 20 years before you were born. Your predictable lies are noted. Perhaps you could provide a fact to prop up your dishonesty. What if anything have you EVER done for UKIP do list your attempts and your achievements. Consider the damage you have clearly done in supporting libels, dishonesty, racism, xenophobia, anti Judaism that are the bedrock of the EFD. What have you EVER done YOURSELF to in any way oppose the EU and what were your achievements? I expect in dishonest embarrassment at you list of failures you will remove this with cowardly smears – as ever. You must be ashamed to have no serious ability to discuss your unfounded claims. Opposing the EU is NOT about the incestuous process of preaching to the converted – it is about confronting the issues. Just being rude undermines your position and makes you look rather silly. It is clear you have no facts to back your lies so just how do you worry The EU – your behaviour demeans your argument and you act as a useful idiot for the EU. Too stupid to even realise – let alone understand! Take a deep breath and start to grow up – defend your position as a man and not a coward. Don’t run away by deleting people who you are unable to refute – hope you can learn from the discourse so you don’t look so foolish next time. Regards, Greg L-W.

7 March 2010 01:21

Hi, Stuart Parr I was actively campaigning against EU membership almost 20 years before you were born. Your predictable lies are noted. Perhaps you could provide a fact to prop up your dishonesty. What if anything have you EVER done for UKIP do list your attempts and your achievements. Consider the damage you have clearly done in supporting libels, dishonesty, racism, xenophobia, anti Judaism that are the bedrock of the EFD. What have you EVER done YOURSELF to in any way oppose the EU and what were your achievements? I expect in dishonest embarrassment at you list of failures you will remove this with cowardly smears – as ever. You must be ashamed to have no serious ability to discuss your unfounded claims. Opposing the EU is NOT about the incestuous process of preaching to the converted – it is about confronting the issues. Just being rude undermines your position and makes you look rather silly. It is clear you have no facts to back your lies so just how do you worry The EU – your behaviour demeans your argument and you act as a useful idiot for the EU. Too stupid to even realise – let alone understand! Take a deep breath and start to grow up – defend your position as a man and not a coward. Don’t run away by deleting people who you are unable to refute – hope you can learn from the discourse so you don’t look so foolish next time. Regards, Greg L-W.

7 March 2010 01:21

Greg L-W. said…

Hi, Pop – you rather miss the point as I am well aware of the damage done to the cause by the sort of cowardly and dishonest behaviour of chaps like Stuart Parr – far more so than they – you will appreciate I will deal with anyone in the interest of leaving the EU and have done for almost 50 years. To date I have not nor will I consort with racists, anti Jewish, xenophobes who advocate and practice violence as do members of The EFD which is clearly pro EU and do not forget that the Lega Nord were the steering group for the addoption of The Lisbon Treaty in the Italian Parliament. I have backed UKIP on every single occasion I have been able for well over a dozen years. I cautioned that long ago that Farage was an excellent performing monkey and was the making of the party but were he ever to seek leadership he would be the party’s demise as he lacked rigor, vision, integrity, probity, gravitas or leadership skills. One need only look about him at the team of spivs, low lifes and sycophants – where is the ability and competence needed to get us out of the EU and EXACTLY what has been achieved towards leaving in 17 years? The aim is to leave the EU not to feather the nests of a few and make £Millionaires of the chosen. I have and will continue to support UKIP and its grass roots principles but I totally reject the EFD and the EUkip behavious with Farage as leader – you will be minded it was I who said give Pearson time. Pearson has had time – we await the calling of an election and he has shown a total lack of leadership. He is an implacable, if inept, opponent of the EU but damagingly became embroiled in a fight with the BBC which damaged a relationship that should have been built on. He is an award winning Zionist hence his stance of Islamaphobia ill informed and inept as it is. He spoke vociferously and divisively against homosexuals on many occassion as a Peer. Now we see from his behaviour he is weak and dishonourable, untrustworthy and self indulgent. Malcolm Lord Pearson is clearly no leader and has been made a fool of publicly by Nigel Farage and the NEC in his sycaphancy. I support UKIP but not the palpable dishonesty and corruption that is Nigel Farage and his EFD. My enemies enemy is most assuredly not my friend as all too often one finds they have let one down at a crucial moment and have climbed in bed with the enemy. As have EUkip under Farage. I rather hope Stuart Parr does not take his normal cowardly action when confronted with reliable facts and opinions and that pop and others are permitted freedom of speech to respond. Regards, Greg L-W.

7 March 2010 01:51

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Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

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Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

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#893* – UKIP MEP Nikki Sinclaire has been expelled from EUkip

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

ON A POINT OF ETHICS & MORALITY UKIP MEP Nikki Sinclaire has been expelled from EUkip THE BEFOULED RUMP OF THE PARTY!

Hi,

One has to ask oneself if what I have written in 100s of blogs and 1,000s of ‘e’Mails is true as to how debased the party has become:
“Would one wish it to win and what is one’s own moral position if voting for them as the lesser of two evils!”
Unarguably a vote for evil is just what it says, whether the greater or the lesser evil – that vote is morally evil!

If what I am saying is UNtrue then perhaps someone would be so good as to explain why EUkip is unable to rebut the facts, one by one, accurately with sourced and proven logic – just as I have been prepared to provide the facts in the first place.
The Birmingham Mail has finally caught up with the news!

Mar 6 2010 by Ben Hurst, Birmingham Mail

 
“The national executive committee has therefore removed the whip; Nikki Sinclaire may no longer describe herself as a UKIP MEP, and she may not stand as a UKIP candidate in the forthcoming General Election

To view the original article CLICK HERE

The damaging inference for UKIP, which would suit the gutter politics of Farage and the EFD, is the claim that:
‘She has also proved unable to collaborate adequately with the voluntary party in the UK’
which is something of a false representation as the reason she was unable to was the damage done to the party by dishonest failed Tories like the odious and untrustworthy Christopher Gill – who you will remember had been at the heart of the cortruption and the dishonesty in MEP selection.

I must say that after knowing and working with Sinclaire and after the literally 1,000s of days of support she has given him and the work and effort beyond the call of duty – ensuring the dullard Mike Nattrass was elected – which he could NEVER have achieved on his own – I am not surprised but more disgusted at his flacid lack of guts and support Mike Nattrass has given Sinclaire.

I am not surprised that he is happy to be in the EFD because many will remember he joined EUkip from a largely Racist and extremist Party

 

….. if you consult your ex-NF friend’s back copies of The Flag you will find in issue 102 (approx. May 1998) an article re a Clive Maltby standing as a National Democrat candidate in a local election in Worthing. Mr Maltby subsequently stood as a district council candidate for UKIP in nearby Arun in 2007. In view of the fact that UKIP has stated that all its prospective candidates and constituency office bearers have to sign declarations confirming that they have no previous association with extremist political groups, the party clearly does not regard either the National Front or National Democrats as extremist …..

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

#892* – THE SHAME OF ANOTHER EUkip MEP’S ACCOUNTS WRAPPED IN LIES.

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

THE SHAME OF ANOTHER EUkip MEP’S ACCOUNTS WRAPPED IN LIES. SUPPORTING LIES AND CRIMINALITY, RACISM, ANTI JUDAISM, pro EU, VIOLENCE WHILST BETRAYING UKIP & SINCLAIRE!

JUST MORE EUkip FILTH ON THE GRAVY TRAIN.