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Hi,
November two years ago was a buy time on my UKIP blog with 49 entries which are still available on the archive at CLICK HERE
It is astonishing just how little UKIP has changed – still squabbling and back stabbing – still with its army of cowardly sock puppets sneering and smearing in cowardly anonymity and still going out of their way to antagonise the media!
It was November 2009 that Tom Wise let Nigel Farage and Lindsay Jenkins off the hook legally as you may remember Lindsay Jenkins was a co defendant in a fraud and embezellment case before the courts with Tom Wise and Nigel Farage was likely to become more than just a simple witness in the case having serially lied about his relationship with Wise but Tom Wise finally developing some back bone when he realised the game was up and his posturing and denials were on the verge of being blown wide open changed his plea to Guilty and was sentenced to 2 years in prison and the repayment of the money he had stolen.
In that same month after being insulted and lied about by UKIP members Daniel Foggo wrote another factual article about UKIP as many will remember and the actual blog I wrote on the matter was on November 15 at CLICK HERE
Some will remeber the precursor I wrote:
#710* – OLAF INVESTIGATING EUkip PAST & PRESENT MEPs
Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!
The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
OLAF INVESTIGATING EUkip PAST & PRESENT MEPs BELIEVED RELATIVE TO FRAUD!
The list is quite interesting but currently sub judice – suffice to say ex chairman, 6 interviewed in London, ex MEPs, ex leader, 5 MEPs I noted, numerous ex staff, numerous others with case numbers etc.
UKIP MEPs’ expenses probed EU anti-fraud investigators are conducting an inquiry into the United Kingdom Independence party over its MEPs’ use of expense allowances. Olaf, the body that polices MEPs, has sent officers to the UK, who were last week interviewing potential witnesses.
The development comes in the same week that Tom Wise, a former UKIP MEP, was convicted of embezzling taxpayers’ money intended as his assistant’s salary while he was working for the party.
Original Article CLICK HERE
It took 4 Years to bring Tom Wise to book!
TO LEAVE THE EU
What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.
Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.
The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!
To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!
Regards,
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I subsequenrt to the article in The Sunday Times wrote further on:
#733* – JUST HOW STUPID IS Mike NATTRASS?
Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!
The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
JUST HOW STUPID IS Mike NATTRASS?
IS THERE A 5th. AMENDMENT IN TheEU?
Hi,
NATTRASS SEEKS A FACE SAVER for his risible result in the leadership election and beig publiclly humiliated as an uncredible leader! Years liking Farage’s boots and doing what he was told like a sad puppet only to be treated like that on National TV true as it was it was clearly unkind of Farage, in his fear that Sinclaire might actually beat his chosen puppet Pearson.
You may well have read the article here CLICK which covered/contained The Sunday Times announcement that Mike Nattrass was, along with various others, under investigation on various counts by OLAF and of course Daniel Foggo published the story and subsequent facts pertaining to Tom Wise which eventually saw Wise in Prison and showed beyond doubt that Nigel Farage was a liar when he claimed he had removed/fired whatever Wise as soon as they knew – It was Foggo who made it clear that EUkip had colluded in numerous attempts to cover-up the crimes.
The story was not in-accurate – it is conveniently forgotten by the pond life of EUkip that Daniel Foggo is a leading award winning investigative Journalist who has broken some huge stories around the world whilst they merely feed from the public purse in a sordid self enrichment programme. Daniel having exposed the hypocracy of Knapman and then Farage who despite promises to the contarary employed his wife.
Unfortunately part of his next story was sourced elsewhere and although it led to a letter of apology from Farage’s solicitors to The Times the Sunday Times opted to make a payment not on the principle of hypocracy being wrong, but that the new informant had supplied incomplete information and checks with the authorities were then equally as erroneous.
In this instance Michael Nattrass EUkip MEP is being investigated by OLAF.
Amusingly an ‘e’Mailer of long standing with BNP leanings circulated the story:
Andrew Edwards circulated the Sunday Times article with the comment:
Subject: UKIP MEP Michael Nattrass in expenses fraud inquiry:
Looks like Daniel Foggo has uncovered another one of UKIP’s ‘innocent men‘!!! As Foggo implies, this investigation is part of a wider one, so who will be next. There will be some other very nervous UKIP MEP’s this morning!
The link to The Sunday Times is: CLICK HERE
& reads:
UKIP MEP Michael Nattrass in expenses fraud inquiry
Daniel Foggo
An MEP for the United Kingdom Independence party is being investigated by the European Union’s anti-fraud watchdog over his use of expenses.
Michael Nattrass, who has represented the West Midlands in the European parliament since 2004, is the subject of an inquiry into whether Denis Brookes, one of his former aides, was paid through public funds while he was working as a regional organiser for UKIP. The EU does not allow taxpayers’ money to be used to pay party officials.
The inquiry into Nattrass, which is part of a wider investigation into UKIP’s finances, comes as one of its former MEPs, Tom Wise, was jailed last week for two years for embezzling funds out of his assistant’s allowance.
Separately, it has also emerged that Nattrass was using a business of which he was an equity partner as the “paying agent” for all his assistants’ salaries provided by the EU.
Between 2004 and summer this year, all of his assistants’ allowances were channelled through the business account of Nattrass Giles, a chartered surveyors in Birmingham which he founded nearly 30 years ago.
Nattrass was a signatory to the bank account, although he insisted last night that the administration was handled by another partner in the firm who has since died.
MEPs must not act as their own paying agents. The role can only be performed by “third parties”.
New rules brought in since July this year have further tightened the controls and MEPs can now only use accredited people or companies as paying agents.
Nattrass said he had been told by EU officials that he could use his Birmingham company.
He also insisted that Brookes had worked for him in his capacity as an MEP until his employment as an aide came to an end three years ago.
The facts behind this are at CLICK HERE
Quite the idiot Nattrass had someone write a letter for him (it is in intelligible English!) as:
Dear All.
I am pleased to say there is no truth in the Foggo article.
Foggo knows this because we spoke prior to him going to press… but it made no difference…. so much for the facts.
There is no enquiry into paying agents. So there is no “Fraud Enquiry” However>
Nattrass Giles were not Limited. Foggo knows this and the shares stuff is a made up Foggo mythe. He even confirmed he knew it was not limited when I spoke to him!
NG were suggested as paying agent by the EU officials when I filled in the forms in 2004. I declared my connection with NG and it complied with the rules. NG paid very few employees as paying agents and the payroll was overseen by Chartered Accountants. It more than complied with the EU rules, because at that time the Chartered Accountants were not essential
They are asking whether Brookes worked for me or for the Party as RO. This is Brookes again complaining and I have beaten him off many times in court on this already. He worked for me and the fact is obvious as this was my very high profile argument with him when he failed to attend meetings.
Anyway it appears the Times want to stop me in the leadership race.
I like a challenge like this. But it may be time to go for damages against the Sunday Times and Edwards and the inflamed way Edwards reports these things will not impress the court.
Mike
So lets look at this in some detail:
I am pleased to say there is no truth in the Foggo article.
Having read Foggo’s article and having checked the details what wasn’t true – I can see no errors in it so why are you making a fool of yourself Nattrass?
Foggo knows this because we spoke prior to him going to press… but it made no difference…. so much for the facts.
Well having spoken to him you will probably have told him that when you got back from swanning around in the Philippines on a family holiday having had all summer off it seems! As a doughty MEP for EUkip you had received the information that Derek Bennett the fireplace chap and part time Regional Organiser had been questioned by OLAF and I presume that they had tried to clarify Lynn Ashraff’s position too and others. No doubt Nattrass also told Foggo that he had received some of the details from OLAF regarding the fraud enquiry.
Which fact was it Nattrass didn’t understand exactly?
There is no enquiry into paying agents. So there is no “Fraud Enquiry” However>
I wonder if that was what Nattrass was told or what he would like to portray or even believe.
Nattrass Giles were not Limited. Foggo knows this and the shares stuff is a made up Foggo mythe.
Even in the original article there was no mention of Limited!
It has also emerged that Nattrass was using a company of which he was a shareholding partner as the “paying agent” for all his assistants’ salaries provided by the EU.
You will note since it is a standard paper rather than a financial journal it called Nattrass a ‘shareholding partner’ had it been a financial journal it would no doubt have said he had ‘a share in the equity having been a founding partner’.
He even confirmed he knew it was not limited when I spoke to him!
So Foggo was right – glad Nattrass confirmed that!
NG were suggested as paying agent by the EU officials when I filled in the forms in 2004.
I do doubt that they understood because this clearly is not compliant with the intent of ‘paying agents’.
I declared my connection with NG and it complied with the rules.
This is just not very plausible – what would be the point of paying agents? The aim is to remove the MEP from control of the money not just to put it into an account with a different name that the MEP controls!
NG paid very few employees as paying agents and the payroll was overseen by Chartered Accountants. It more than complied with the EU rules, because at that time the Chartered Accountants were not essential
No but the purpose was that Nattrass did NOT have control of his own expenses.
They are asking whether Brookes worked for me or for the Party as RO.
Then why is Nattrass dennying he is being investigated when he is?
This is Brookes again complaining and I have beaten him off many times in court on this already.
Oh so there is an on going investigation!
He worked for me and the fact is obvious as this was my very high profile argument with him when he failed to attend meetings.
In normal parlance this is called a defence!
Anyway it appears the Times want to stop me in the leadership race.
This is delusional – The Sunday Times could care less who wins and clearly Nattrass is nowhere near a runner – he even Miked off on holiday during the campaign. Farage was spot on when he said of Nattrass & Batten they were ‘uncrdible candidates for the leadership!
I like a challenge like this. But it may be time to go for damages against the Sunday Times and Edwards and the inflamed way Edwards reports these things will not impress the court.
If Nattrass is serious he is an even greater idiot than many of us thought him to be!
Before emulating Farage and making an utter pratt of himself in the Courts and risking the same type of debts Farage has incurred I suggest poor old Mike tries to explain what his case against The Sunday Times is as to more than shout rude words and sabre rattle could well do Nattrass a huge financial damage.
Interestingly, much as EUkip might like to control Freedom of Speech just what crime does Nattrass believe Edwards has committed? That would look good as Nattrass would surely loose!
Now – 2 years later in response to the large investment in legal fees Mike Nattrass has made – the story has been confirmed as 100% accurate by the Sunday Times this weekend.
Mike Nattrass MEP
An article (print headline: “MEP in fraud inquiry”; online headline: “UKIP MEP Michael Nattrass in expenses fraud inquiry”, November 15 2009) reported an investigation by a European Union watchdog into whether Mike Nattrass MEP had used public funds intended for the payment of parliamentary aides to pay a UK Independence party regional organiser. That investigation has been completed with no action taken against Mr Nattrass. The article also stated that payments were channelled through the firm Nattrass Giles Limited. We were not suggesting the company was part of, or merited, any investigation and are happy to clarify the position.
To view the original of this confirmation that the original article was true CLICK HERE
It is easy for the cowardly UKIP sneerers as they shelter in shame behind their false identities to check that I consistently stated that it was unwise for Mike Nattrass to waste time and money on lawyers as no apology would be published since the first article was correct.
In fact one could speculate that a polite letter asking that a clarification of the original statement of facts and the subsequent outcome could well have been obtained at no cost many months ago!
What was surprising was that in clarifying the fact that OLAF were not taking further action against Nattrass in this issue that they did take action against Graham Booth ordering him to repay money – Just as with nigel Farage, Tom Wise, Jeffrey Titford, Derek Clark and no doubt others in the past – and the inquiries by OLAF would seem still to be being taken agaimnst Stuart Agnew and David Bannerman – a list to which OLAF # OF/2011/10/17 into Gerard Batten would seem to have been recently added.
It was during that time that Nigel Farage was off show boating and had endeqavoured the coronation of his puppet leader Malcolm Lord Pearson – who to be fair had played a passable hand as a EUroSceptic in The House of Lords but was to prove to be a catastrophic, incompetent, weak and dishonest leader of UKIP.
To be fair he eventually admitted he was hopeless at politics and had been a disaster as a leader of UKIP – If only Nigel Farage had learned from him and also admitted he has been a catastrophic leader of UKIP like Pearson bringing UKIP into disrepute though to be fair Pearson’s behaviour was not as squalid and amoral as that of Farage.
Both Pearson & Farage have great skills in their own areas but as leaders they are an embarrassment.
Fasrage has proved a quick tongue and lively speaker able to perform slickly and competently in a manner that impresses many but like Pearson is no leader!
Pearson on the other hand has turned in consistent sterling work in The House of Lords as shown by the recent second reading of his excellent:
European Union Membership (Economic Implications) Bill [HL]
Second Reading
10.10 am
Moved By Lord Pearson of Rannoch
That the Bill be read a second time.
Lord Pearson of Rannoch: My Lords, I am truly grateful to all noble Lords who are to speak today. This is not the first time that your Lordships have debated this or a similar Bill at Second Reading. We did so last some four and a half years ago, on 8 June 2007, and we had similar debates on 11 February 2004, 27 June 2003 and 17 March 2000. The series would not be complete without mentioning 31 January 1997, when your Lordships’ House voted at Second Reading for a Bill that would have taken us out of the European Union altogether.
etc. ……………….
To read the balance of this second reading CLICK HERE at the end of column 1214 of 25-Nov-2011and you will note if you read on to the end the Second Reading was passed!
Hopeless, dishonest, corrupt and incompetent as a political leader as Pearson may be he is to be congratulated for his work on this Bill and its outcome so far.
Would that Farage would learn from his example and stand aside to do what he can do well rather than endlessly damage and divide UKIP by pretence to leadership skills he has shown he not only lacks but has no understanding of – staying in place only by shinning like a nickel in a dung heap having gathered around him low lifes and nere-do-wells on the make and the take, purely to outshine their shoddy behaviour.
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