Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W)
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It was astonishing just how irresponsible such highly paid individuals can be!!
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Hi,
PLEASE NOTE:
The vote on this issue will be circulated in Mid July in the in house comic – INDEPENDENCE NEWS which is used, on track record, for corrupt Farage propaganda but rarely appears on time with excuses usually being made based upon lack of funding (As with The NEC Elections of last February which still have not yet been held!)
The theory is that Ballot Papers will be distributed during July to all members and the completed those being returned by mid August will be counted as a part of the vote.
I have just watched the full debate of UKIP as chaired by Steve Crowther at The Tiverton Hotel which ended at 15:55hrs.
Protagonists:
May I congratulate Mike Smith for having the integrity to thank Nikki Sinclaire, Mike Nattrass and Trevor colman for their sterling work in bringing the facts of The EU to the attention of both members and the public – having not lost sight of the reason they were elected.
I was amazed at the lack of facts, lack of information and emotive nature of the debate from both sides of the rather mumbled arguments, beyond the admonishment to read the Legislation for yourself – with which I do agree but it was unfortunate that the two sides were not adequately in command of their brief to respond with linkage in other than their set piece presentation section..
That Stuart Agnew clearly stated he did not care about the outcome of the democratic vote of the members he, like Godfrey Bloom would willingly betray the principles of Democracy in UKIP such as it is and if the vote was NO to PEPPs he personally would still join one!
Some will remember that I warned before his election that Stuart Agnew was untrustworthy, dishonest, corrupt and self interested. He colluded in corruption to be placed upon the list of candidates as one of Farage’s placements based on Farage’s comment ‘He is as thick as sh*t but he’s got money’.
No I never expected Stuart Agnew to act in an honourable or principled manner on ANY issue – a point soon highlighted by The Sunday Times and I understand still a subject of OLAF enquiry in terms of his boassted of fraud together with his equally dishonest and corrupt partner in fraud David Bannerman.
I presume Stuart Agnews puppet masters the NFU wish him to aid and assist their paymasters The EU by helping The EU in its greater goal to undermine National Politics by controlling Pan EU Political Parties via their bribes and purse strings to the MEP’s overseas accounts and perks.
It was stunning to listen to these 4 protagonists waffling on with so little knowledge or understanding of either The EU, ethics, principles or even the rules as laid out by The EU for PEPPs which can be read in full if you CLICK HERE
They seemed not to have a clue what their own UKIP MEP was upto which speaks volumes of the loss of control when prostituted to The EU and funded as a Supra National Political Party – we are currently at the stage where UKIP Chairman and two UKIP MEPs haven’t a clue what Godfrey Bloom is doing – just as they hadn’t a clue that David Bannerman had gone on a jolly with the Tories to Taiwan!
To have SOME incling of what Godfrey Bloom is upto, although his web site has not been materially updated since last year! You may be will find this helps understand how he is subsuming himself into The EU when not copulating with prostitutes in the streets nor urinating in flower pots in Hotels CLICK HERE
As a starter to help the idiot Stuart Agnew Godfrey is NOT a member of something called The Alliance he is a member of The EUrope of Freedom and Democracy – a corrupt grouping harbouring and promoting Racism, violent anti homosexuality, anti Judaism, Holocaust denial and pro EU Membership seeking reform as is he Stuart Agnew also UKIP’s remaining MEPs willing to jump when told to put money in Nigel Farage’s pocket. Godfrey Bloom is also a member of The Pan EU Alliance for Freedom.
Both the utterly vile EFD Group and this other grubby little group are increasingly within the bounds of Pan EU Political Parties or PEPPs.
Rerhaps it would be an intelligent action on these ‘larded’ self serving individuals to read up a little on the subject and to that end they will find this of help: CLICK HERE.
What is UKIP doing that is of any real benefit towards getting these United Kingdoms out of The EU – as yet they have never had a single training course of consequence and it was clear from todays debate they sure to hell need one. It is all very well waffling about policies and Government WE NEED MORE POLITICIANS LIKE A HOLE IN THE HEAD – The only reason UKIP gets votes is the stance of Leave-The-EU and on that clear message and by exploiting (dishonestly) the difficulties of other Parties in DOMESTIC politics UKIP does well in EU elections – the results when OTHER POLICIES are considered are risible as shown by their abject failure at Westminster elections and even worse results at local level!
Clearly and sadly to genuine supporters like myself who seek solutions for our Country and NOT enrichment or agrandisement for ourselves, it is increasingly clear that UKIP is unfit for purpose IF the aim is to liberate these United Kingdoms from membership of the malign and damaging EUropean Union.
All too often the ONLY answer UKIP has to any view point that may challenge their income stream as individuals is abuse or more hirelings and praise singers to abuse those who are genuine Patriots seeking to Leave-The-EU.
To quote Steve Allison of Nigel Farage:
“I don’t question HIS recollection of the incident or HIS interpretation of the story. I’m sure he is sincere in his beliefs. Similarly I don’t question anyone’s belief in an almighty God. I’m sure they are sincere in their beliefs. I don’t share those beliefs but it doesn’t make me right and them wrong or visa versa. However, I know that you and I will never agree on this because there is no god but Farage and Heaver is his prophet so there is no point discussing it further really is there?”
This rather sums up UKIP’s ability to debate – the nerds and sycophants of Farage and the rest – for a partial list of The Rest CLICK HERE.You will note amongst them already UKIP has lost 2 Council seats from the meager few it obtained on 06-May-2011 and also the recent resignation in apparent disgust at being used and abused of an NEC Member!
Hardly surprising having just watched 2 hours of ill informed and crassly uninformative debate that would surely not pass muster in a responsible 6th. Form let alone as a ‘presentation’ debate by such highly funded rascals. Though I will say afternoon tea at The Tiverton Hotel was pleasant!
COMMENTS:
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Ukip-vs-EUkip 
I have just posted the following to some lad by the name of Graham Gillis who it seems knows little of UKIP, past or present, and seemingly also has little grasp of ethics, probity, morality or duty compounding his confussion as to how politics works!
In response to another fool who felt boot licking to Farage was a substitute for politics Mike Nattrass gave a fairly coherent retort – let us home the kids in UKIP have the intelligence to understand the posting:
To: ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk
CC: nikki@ukip.org; trevorcolman@btconnect.com; mcwilliam.steph@gmail.com; jeff.mager@btinternet.com
Subject: Petition
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011
From: mike nattrass
Sent: Sun, 1 May 2011 13:11
Subject: Petition
Seems fairly straight forward to me – do not forget that Nigel’s utter incompetence as a leader with the imbecilic Godfrey Bloom led to a guilty verdict against them and UKIP for their public abuse and lies relative to Nikki Sinclaire.
Even yet Nigel’s errand boy is trying to cobble together a deal to keep him out of the High Court and substantial damages.
Unfortunately Farage’s utter lack of leadership skill has put him deep in the hole and digging furiously.
You will note from stupidity Farage IF he is Leader has recently opted to spend about £30K maybe substantially more of members money having wittingly recruited a BNP member yet unlawfully removing him and refusing to meet the paltry damages of £500!
Do TRY to wake up!
I would suggest foul language, lack of knowledge and ill mannered abuse serve UKIP ill when you try to defend them.
Regards,
Greg_L-W.
PS.:
For more details on The Petition for an In/Out EUReferendum & The pledge for a Referendum of Tony Blackwell’s run by James Proy & Bridget Rowe – which Jon Gaunt is fronting:
CLICK HERE