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#0490* – UKIP STILL HAVE NOT LEARNED LIES DON’T PAY!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 19/05/2011

#0490* – UKIP STILL HAVE NOT LEARNED LIES DON’T PAY!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!  
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UKIP STILL HAVE NOT LEARNED LIES DON’T PAY!

The endless use of UKIP affiliates who are proven liars and low lifes who abuse and defame members and supporters of UKIP who seek honesty, integrity, morality, transparency and probity to once more ressurecy UKIP and render it fit for purpose – Leaves them without credible defence when the truth leaks out!!

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Hi,

in the light of the habitual lies of both Skeptyk and also of Mick McGough which have been proven time and again, and in that they are in the habit of abusing any supporter or member of UKIP who dares to hold a different opinion – particularly those with a lengthy track record of seeking transparency and aiming to clean-up the party.

Those who hope to remove filth and liars like themselves from UKIP’s employ and leadership claque – Their comments, criticisms and attempts at defence at validation are clearly of no value nor worthy of any respect or cogniscenece.

That those who post as skeptyk are too ashamed to put their name to their lies and the style of their odious behaviour demeans UKIP more than they could ever be considered of value as with those who post as Independent UKIP or the moronic Gothmog (aka William Shaw) – not only cowardly but clearly as with the liar Stuart Parr and Mick McGough who is a placement on the NEC such scum of the earth and liars do UKIP more harm than every they may foolishly consider they aid it.

As with association with the crass, amateur and foul mouthed Annabelle Fuller and her sordid little AthenaPR agency.

The comments of Barbara Booker in response to ‘Geoffrey Collier’ a loyal and supportive member of UKIP for many years who has been frequently defamed and abused by the scum gathered in ambition around the leadership position in UKIP for his efforts to improve the Party and bring various seemingly clear theives to book where it would seem possibly many £Millions have been stolen, misappropriated or embezzled.

Ms. Bookers comments are, as ever, both reasoned and substantiated:
Geoffrey, to clarify:

When trying to check the authenticity of the Tim Congdon email, I found it did not appear on Michael Heaver’s blog as stated by skeptyk in post #1 of this thread. 

A google search brought up several references to it having been posted on 12 May, but in each case clicking the link produced: “Sorry, the page you were looking for in the blog Michael Heaver’s Blog does not exist”. 

As I didn’t then know about the Blogger problem of posts being temporarily deleted (the explanation offered by Richard Allen and skeptyk), I assumed MH had removed the post himself soon after making it, probably as a result of a complaint from TC. Hence my ‘sceptical’ comment.

I now see from buzz.blogger.com that by 15 May most of the affected posts had been restored, with bloggers advised to republish any that were still missing, so when checking Michael Heaver’s blog again I expected to find the elusive Congdon email back in its place. 

Not so. MH posted three times on 15 May, twice on 16th, once on 17th and once yesterday, but still no sign of a restored or republished email from Tim Congdon. My original assumption is therefore not only unchanged, but reinforced by further consideration.

One of the google references revealed enough of Michael Heaver’s 12 May post to show that he was definitely linking Tim Congdon’s comments with what he called “the small isolated group of members who are calling for a leadership challenge”. See http://www.britishblogs.co.uk/categories/nigel-farage/

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An interesting email hit my desk this morning which shows us how disagreements in the Party should be conducted. Tim Congdon, the second place UKIP leadership challenger from last year has ruled himself out of joining the small isolated group of members who are calling for a leadership challenge. In his own words:Nigel has many gifts – he is an outstanding speaker and television personality. He has been elected, by a large majority, for four years. He must be supported by all party members. Should he remain leader indefinitely? Well, that is for the party to decide. At this stage I intend to throw my hat in the ring again in 2014, as I believe the party needs its centre of gravity to be in this country, not in Brussels or Strasbourg. You may forward…


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Skeptyk continues the email in post #1. 

It appears from the break in the text and the repetition of “forward this to whomever you please” that it is actually quotes from two separate emails, probably written just after Nigel Farage won the leadership election last November. 

There is no proof whatsoever that TC wrote them in connection with any recent leadership issue, and it’s my belief that someone has cobbled extracts together and recirculated them in a pretence of current support for Farage which may not exist. 

If this conclusion is incorrect, Michael Heaver should publish the email in its entirety, with date, title and name of recipient so that we can see it in context and check its authenticity.

The balance of the CLAIMED comment of Tim Congdon, as claimed by Michael Heavers and selectively quoted, as Barbara Booker states, was posted on this blog. CLICK HERE

Since Skeptyk’s posting was subsequent to the removal from Michael Heavers’ blog it is probable one of the dishonest creatures, posting as the cowardly proven liar Skeptyk, obtained the copy as posted by them on Anthony Butcher’s UKIP controlled blog from the posting on this blog by me at CLICK HERE.

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#0489* – UKIP’s Spokesmen Summed Up!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 18/05/2011

#0489* – UKIP’s Spokesmen Summed Up!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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UKIP’s Spokesmen – Too Ashamed To Use Their Names – Summed Up!

There are also liars & low lifes who demean UKIP 
like Mick McGough, David Bannerman, William Shaw, Godfrey Bloom, Stuart Agnew, Hugh Williams, Malcolm Pearson, Lisa Duff, Mark Croucher, Stuart Parr, Gawain Towler, Derek Clark, Peter Reeve, Marta Andreasen, Douglas Denny and the like who have no reputation of value to defend!!
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Hi,

at last we have an accurate measure for the integrity of the likes of Skeptyk, Independent UKIP and so many other UKIP spokesmen who are too ashamed to put their name to their low grade rubbish, serial lies and desperate and childish attempts at defamation:

FOR THE RECORD:
Skeptyk in a dishonest and amateur attempt to defame me and this blog made the following comment on Anthony Butcher’s dishonest UKIP controlled Forum:

I started up my blog to address the hypocrisy

G.L-W. >>Not one single solitary example of hypocracy has this dishonest consortium of liars provided to date. Regarding myself NOT ONE. Skeptic you are a liar.<<

and the lies of those anti-UKIPpers

G.L-W. >>Nowhere can a single example of anti UKIP activity be found or attributed to me without the need for dishonest spin to present the facts I lead as ‘anti’ – I am and have for many years been a consistent and outspoken supporter of UKIP that it has become debased and corrupted and that it lacks any signs of professionalism, integrity, morality, probity, strategy, tactics, training, vision, judgement, leadership or values of any merit does not for one second detract from my support for the members of ethical standing who seek to Leave-The-EU. Skeptyk you are a liar.<<

who’s pious attitudes sickened me.

G.L-W. >>That ethics, transparency, probity, morality and a desire to clen-up UKIP to make it fit for purpose ‘sickens’ Skeptyk is probably the only honest comment I have EVER seen made by Skeptyk which can stand unqualified.<< 

Such as GLW’s ridiculous myth that he never lies

G.L-W. >>I am happy to stand by my EVERY comment in the context in which it was made and have NEVER once in my life been shown to have wittingly and deliberately lied nor set out with intent to deceive on any issue. Skeptyk and his associates have however been repeatedly proven to lie and deliberately deceive.<< 

– I can prove he is a liar with the greatest of ease;

G.L-W. >>Yet of the 1,000s of blogs I have written and 10s of 1,000s of postings on forums, news groups and publicly circulated ‘e’Mails never ONCE have the cowardly liars sheltering their dishonesty in shame behind anonymity shown a single solitary lie that I have EVER told deliberately or with intent to mislead. Rather more than can be said of those who post as Skeptyk or their associate Mick McGough and others of their self serving ilk.<< 

or how GLW thought Nikki Sinclaire was a ‘pervert’

G.L-W. >>I do not think Nikki Sinclaire MEP is a pervert I know her to be a pervert by her own claims. Nikki Sinclaire is a homosexual and in the context of the law and of her job – so what?

Is it that Skeptyk is too stupid to recognise that fact that homosexuality is a perversion – one of many that are ‘perverse’ to the norm but are considered perfectly legal and for which I actively campaigned for decriminalisation in the 1960s.

Is it perhaps that Skeptyk are seeking to point score by use of utterly dishonest Political Correctness which is NOT upheld by Justice.

Shame on you Skeptyk for seeking to undermine British Justice but let us not forget the contempt in which UKIP holds British Justice and the flagrancy with which they abuse British Justice and British Courts, without honour or integrity.<< 

until she fell out with UKIP,

G.L-W. >>Please identify where and when Nikki Sinclaire MEP fell out with UKIP, when UKIP is actively seeking through the idiotic Steve Crowther back long before the recent election to seek an accomodation that will recompense for the lies, abuse, dishonesty and ilegal treatment of her by such Leadership personalities and low lifes in UKIP as Nigel Farage, Malcolm Lord Pearson, Christopher Gill MP (Tory rtd./failed), Mick McGough, the cowardly Skeptyk, Godfrey Bloom MEP and various others of the pond life and unprincipled UKIP leadership team and its odious supporters. Skeptyk you are liars.<< 

or how the Junius blog employs the ‘talents’ of a BNP implant

G.L-W. >>Those in The EU and working for UKIP who are unhappy with the crass incompetence and serial dishonesty of the clearly unprofessional UKIP leadership do indeed publish material that they consider to be Factual and or humerous exposing the follies and dishonesties of UKIP’s leadership team and those in its immediate claque or employ..

Whether or not such material is the product of The BNP or a supporter of the BNP is as imaterial as the fact that UKIP frequently consorted with and supplied membership data to the extremist fascist organisations associated with AFL and other odious organisations acting violently in denial of democracy.<< 

whilst falsely claiming that UKIP’s links with the far right.

UKIP was clearly linked to the far right in fact the extreme Right.
Further UKIP leadership has seen fit to befoul UKIP by association with the Pan EU EFD Political Group , of which Nigel Farage, the titular leader of UKIP is President – a group which is encouraged, supported and aided by UKIP as a result a group which is openly Racist, anto Jewish, Xenophobic, pro EU membership, violently anti homosexual, criminal and holocaust deniers amongst its accepted principles!

Yes UKIP is associated with and supportive of The EXTREME FAR RIGHT in EUropean politics.

Further they are actively campaigning to subsume UKIP into such a group as a Pan EU Political Party prostituting the membership and principles for perceived gain yet aiding The EU by compliance in their diminution of the validity of both democracy and the Nation State in direct and flagrant breach of the fundamental Human Right of Self Determination of The People as defined by The UN.

Those are just some examples that leap to mind.

G.L-W.>>A total failure over months, in fact YEARS to present the truth or facts by Skeptyk to substantiate their sordid claims shows them for the cowards and liars they are – even to the extent that when challenged to present the evidence in public to my face where members of the public could openly challenge me has repeatedly failed to meet with acceptance from these vile filth. Clearly Skeptyk are liars.<<

However, since the blog’s creation, my email inbox is regularly full of allegations against certain people, mostly unsubstantiated and as such, I won’t touch them.

G.L-W.>>That Skeptyk are selective in whome they dishonestly defame and lie about is surely no surprise and more of a confession than a defence. Indeed irrefutably Skeptyk has been shown to be both a liar and deliberately dishonest in order to defame.<<


So to answer your question, it is not an attack blog

G.L-W.>>Clearly the nomenclature can be argued about pedanticly by a charlatan to wriggle out from the fact that it is, in common parlance, an attack blog.

It would be equally as trur to describe it as a self serving pack of lies or merely a cowardly and defamatory aggregation of filth speaking volumes of the sick minds of its perverted authors. Again Skeptyk is clearly shown to be dishonest and a liar.<<

– it is there to merely educate people of the background of some of those who make accusations against UKIP because to be frank, people should be made aware of the homophobe who accuses UKIP of homophobia,

G.L-W.>>Again Skeptyk show themselves to be liars in that I am unaware of a single instance of homophobia as he quaintly puts it to comply with Political Correctness to try to score points. I am unaware of such a stance by any of the Junius posters on that blog – and I most certainly have NEVER posted in those terms on mine.

Unlike Skeptyk it is a long and well known FACT that I actively campaigned in favour of the decriminalisation of homosexuality and for various rights for homosexuals.

That UKIP is anti Homosexual has been upheld by The EU Parliament and by The British Courts who found against UKIP and handed down a guilty verdict against them. Further UKIP is part of a Pan EU Political Group that it aids, supports and part finances that is most unashamedly happy to harbour and encourage violent anti homosexuality. Yet again Skeptyk are shown to be liars and dishonest.<<

or the far-right implant who accuses UKIP of being far-right,

G.L-W.>>I have been known to quote from Mrs. Bandaranaika, Margot Walstrom, Mrs Indira Ghandi, Helen Suzmann, Her Majesty The Queen, Ayn Rand, Dorothy Parker – it may come as a surprise to those cowards posting as Skeptyk for UKIP that does not make me a woman of erudity, wit or wisdom any more than postings as examples make those who make the postings Far Right.

Support of The Extreme Far Right is when a party such as UKIp or an individual either supply the extreme far right with such data as membership information or wittingly and willingly actively support extreme far right politics, violent anti homosexuality, anti Judaism, Racism and the like as has UKIP and its leadership team for whatever reason or for whatever reward – there is absolutely no justification  for political prostitution selling out the values and principles of the membership and supporters for money or position however elevated or however much.

Once again we note the lack of morality, failure of ethical understanding, absence of a moral compass and dishonest lies and misrepresentation of those who post as Skeptyk in self interest.<<

or the MEP who’s ‘i don’t work with extremists’ mantra is contradicted by [ snipped ].

G.L-W.>>This is clearly a libel as all with any political knowledge knew this to be an attempt to defame and libel a given MEP and an EU Pool Employee who works with the MEP the employee having had a brief sojourne with the same party as Michael Nattrass MEP one tiome deputy leader of UKIP, Jeffrey Titfford MEP one time leader of UKIP a the brevity of that stay is not only noted but it is also noted that it was for a very brief period after some years of Military service for the Crown.

That the individual rapidly moved on on learning more of politics is worthy of note.

That Nigel Farage MEP, Tom Wise MEP are both habituees of The Swinton Circle which was willing to harbour corruption and would seem clearly to be an overtly racist group of dwinding significance is also worthy of note.

Once again the low lifes that post as Skeptyk are shown to be dishonest and to have lied.<<

At times, my blog’s style of humour has been too personal towards certain individuals which I regret, if I have offended anyone with those, I offer apologies.

G.L-W.>>On this claim I can not claim any depth of knowledge as I have so rarely visited the blog having established long ago that I was unlikely to learn anything of note or merit on the blog as that which I had read showed it to be foul mouthed, offensive, childish, dishonest, sordid, inaccurate, ill informed and extremely damaging to UKIP as it told more of the nature of the leadership of UKIP and their modus operandi than ever could be found plausible in the filth it invented against the decent patriots supporting UKIP and trying desperately to clean it up and make it fit for purpose once more as our lifeboat to Leave-The-EU.

I have however had considerable feedback from individuals of repute and honour as to just how damaging the blog is to UKIP and how it so demeans its sordid authors.

Again Skeptyk are shown to be the scum of the earth acting in ignorant and childish self interest.<<


And as for Tim – look him up in the forum users list, for that is his name.

G.L-W.>>In deed it is his name and like Skeptyk the name is false but unlike Skeptyk for honourable reasons.<<

There is some speculation as to who he is

G.L-W.>>And there are some who are sufficiently trusted to KNOW who it is. Clearly those posting as Skeptyk have shown they can not be trusted on any count as they are liars, cowards and dishonest.<<

– he may convince you that he is a Gerard Batten ‘fan’. He probably couldn’t pick Batten out of an ID parade consisting of 1 person.

G.L-W.>>Please be assured that Tim could pick him out in a random crowd of 1,000 people with ease, it is probable that Tim could pick him out by either voice or siloette alone – even probably by style of speech or the written word and probably by hand writting or hand shake, laugh or gesture.

I wonder if each of those posting as Skeptyk could make that claim! Again Skeptyk’s spin and dishonest inference based on not a single fact, yet again, is made to try to defame but speaks volumes of the dishonesty of Skeptyk.<<

To view the original self serving pack of lies from the maggots Skeptyk CLICK HERE
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#0487* – Those who seek to undermine Farage undermine UKIP.

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/05/2011

#0487* – Those who seek to undermine Farage undermine UKIP.
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable!
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!  
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Those who seek to undermine Farage undermine UKIP!

Clearly only a child or a fool would believe such a statement or of course someone who was a proven liar and utterly corrupt sycophant like Mick McGough – of no personal merit or worth who found with his tongue firmly placed for licking their incompetence and vile personality was overlooked!

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Hi,

I have unfortunately only received the comments of the main protagonist and an aside from Steve Allison – suffice to say with information leaks there are perforce some parts missing!

Though it seems Douglas Denny is in his dottage waking up to the reality that he has been duped and taken for the fool he so clearly was.

Perhaps it is his conscience after so many defamatory lies and general dishonesty that Denny used in the past to abuse people who dared to seek out the truth which so embarrassed him he felt the need to cover his personal involvement and that of his ‘chums’.

Unfortunately I do not have the whole of his confession nor the documentation which he had but I understand he has now handed to a UKIP MEP – lt us see what integrity that MEP can muster!

In answer to the Strap Line:

Those who seek to undermine Farage undermine UKIP.
It would seem Douglas Denny comments:

This statement is heavily loaded with innuendo and is inaccurate.  Not everyone who wishes to undermine the Leader are ( -actively- for that is what is implied) {wishing} to undermine the party. They may have other valid reasons for not wishing to co-operate with the Leader.  It happens in all political parties.

This is not to approve of course,  of Marta biting the hand that fed her – and I mean the party.

I have read the “blogg” article and and it is a very pro-Nigel Farage homily spun with no acknowledgement or account of the known failings of NF which, in themselves, have in the past and possible present, caused problems for the party.
The author forgets: it takes two to Tango.
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I made it clear I did not want Nigel to be Leader again at the leadership elections and said exactly why – and those reasons are now becoming apparent, especially the main one which I will now repeat. (On this private forum only).

I emphasise have not publicly criticised Nigel since the leadership election as he is the Leader, and does indeed have a large mandate from the membership.
That is not to fail to recognise and deny he has faults however, but I do not fully express them now as it is counter-productive to the party.  If this is the only point Mr. Heaver is trying to make, then I agree with him.

What I think is worth repeating though is: I think the main problem with any leader of a political party is they develop enemies and malcontents within the party and without,  with their leadership,  over a long period of time if they stay in the job for a very long period. Margaret Thatcher is a classic axample of this.  She was an excellent Leader, but they still threw her out for spurious reasons.  That is why I think leaders should stand down, or be changed regardless every now and then. (Every three or five years? -debate).

This effect causes problems of the kind we are now seeing.  It is up to those who are malcontent for whatever reasons to either pull their weight behind the party or re-consider what they are doing.

Leadership does not mean there is an automatic requirement of blind obedience from others however (unless you are in the military)  – it means bringing people together towards a common cause through example and charisma so that people want to to follow….. Douglas Denny.

 Steve ALLISON SAID:

I have read the “blogg” article and and it is a very pro-Nigel Farage homily spun with no acknowledgement or account of the known failings of NF which, in themselves, have in the past and possible present, caused problems for the party.

Steve Allisons comment:

Doug, you didn’t need to read the blog post to know this. All you need to read was the title and the name of the author. There are certain people in this party for whom the concept of Nigel not being 100% correct is something they cannot even imagine, let alone actually put into words. To expect Michael Heaver to question Farage in any way is like expecting a blog post by a Catholic Cardinal questioning the doctrine of Papal Infallibility! Unthinkable.

All Hail!! Gaius Nigellus Caesar! Those who speak ill of him do so of the Republic! Yea, kneel down and kiss of his arse, mortals!!!

Nigel’s a good bloke, we get it. I certainly support him; but there are reasons to criticise him and the one thing that is guaranteed to destroy a political party in a democracy is a sycophantic personality cult that rewards toadying – sorry, “loyalty” – to a man over wisdom and competence and devotion to a cause.

If UKIP takes that route, it is no better than the LibLabCon parties and its high admonitions on the lack of’democracy’ and ‘liberty’ are not worth a fig.

Steve Allison’s response:

This is exactly the route that UKIP is taking! Any organisation that believes it is 100% dependent upon one man for its success or failure has started down the path to ultimate destruction. Graveyards are full of people who were indispensable!. If the crash last year had been serious enough that Nigel had died, which I would never wish on anyone, even my worst enemy, or he had been so badly injured that he had to leave politics, are these people who claim Nigel is UKIP’s only hope also saying the party would have collapsed and now no longer exist?

When Nigel departs UKIP, because it is WHEN and not IF, then UKIP will continue and may even be stronger in the long term,  in fact I think it will be stronger in the long term without Nigel. Any gardener will tell you that when one branch on a bush grows so large that it overshadows the rest of the the branches then it’s time for the overgrown branch to be pruned back, otherwise the shape of the bush is destroyed and the longer the singe branch is allowed to grow the harsher the pruning becomes!

Douglas Denny adds his farthing’s worth:

I disagree with this statement too which is also inaccurate.

There were other suitable candidates,  two of which would have made perfectly good leaders in my opinon;  an opinon  based on having supported three Leaders already in the past and seen their efforts.

As Steve Allison rightly says – if Nigel had been killed in the aircraft crash UKIP would have gone on regardless, and would still achieve the kind of success we already enjoy.   The party would have gone in a different direction in some respects,  which might or might not have speeded up that process. Overall though, it is my experience in politics that leaders efforts are more useful during thier term with infrastructure changes and general party direction,  and  the aspect of personalities only becomes important and into the forefront of politics if they are in the focus of the media, – which for UKIP is at election times – and only if they get the media presence, and that only in the last week before an election.
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The reason Nigel had such a large poll with the members is because they have never heard of the others much at all,  excepting DCB perhaps.  He did not do well, so cannot have such a well-known or acceptable profile in the party as I thought might be the case.     Nigel, however,  is so well known in the party you could put him up for election as God and he will probably get 60%.

Tim Congden would have made an excellent leader,  and I like his stance on MEPs and UKIP’s efforts being more UK-centric, which resonates with me a lot,  so if there is another leadership election in due course and he stands I shall have to think carefully next time who to go for depending on the candidates and their policy in this respect. Who knows? TC could be the one !
Some others might make good leaders too, but were total unknowns.

Douglas Denny.

Then in response to an apparent interjection Denny continues:

No spat here on this subject.  It’s called rational, informed debate.
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This minion,  dogsbody,  jobbing party worker would like to know what the MEPs are doing exactly too but does not actually know, as he is not told.
Whatever it is, it is, but one thing’s for sure – if it’s in Brussels, it is of little use to getting Britain out of the EU.

I find snippets of information about what they do from the internet like you.

Douglas.

It would seem that Douglas Denny is making steps, all be they tiny, towards honesty and telling the truth which must be very difficult for him after so many years telling lies, cheating and inventing childish conspiracy theories to cover up the corruption he was party to.

Leopards DO change their spots – it is a measure of their maturity!

Though I doubt Douglas Denny will ever be man enough to apologise for his lies and his defamatory comments and inventions regarding myself, Niall Warry and others.

See the original article at CLICK HERE
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#0486* – Marta ANDREASEN UKIP MEP Issues An Apology!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 16/05/2011

#0486* – Marta ANDREASEN UKIP MEP Issues An Apology!
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Marta ANDREASEN UKIP MEP Issues An Apology!!

That UKIP Fielded Hirelings and a proven dishonest Hugh Williams in defence of UKIP is a sad reflection on the abject failure of leadership!!

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Hi,

it is interesting to note that Marta Andreasen has, after her withering attack on the leadership of UKIP by its so called leader, issued an apology.

It would seem that in the light of crass and irresponsible comments made by Nigel Farage in his attempts to lead the Party she claims to have merely quoted him.

You will note this blog. made a point of stating her use of language was a ‘hostage to fortune’.

May I also point out that her blog as that of a public servant does NOT post comments if they are not favourable to her chosen position and personal career interests.

Unlike this blog which is no more than a series of statements of fact and unashamedly my opinions on the facts presented as a private unfunded individual seeking to clean-up UKIP to make it fit for purpose as our lifeboat and a vehicle for leadership for these United kingdoms to Leave-The-EU – which currently it clearly is not – as is notably highlighted by the likes of Marta Andreasen, skeptyk, independent UKIP, Mick McGough, Godfrey Bloom, David Bannerman, Stuart Agnew and the many other liars, low lifes and cheats who so consistently drag the name of UKIP in the gutter with their lies and serial distortions.

APOLOGIES

May 14, 2011 8:14 pm – Posted by Marta 

Hugh Williams forwarded to me a statement where he calls my comments in respect of the party´s finances “patently false” and he refutes them.

The “mis-information” -as Hugh calls it- about the party´s financial status,  came from Nigel himself on such terms and more than once.

As I do not have the chance to see the party´s accounting records,  at this point I have to rely on Hugh´s opinion.

Appointed assistant Treasurer two months ago, Hugh seems to have grasped the financial situation very quickly and appears to know better than the leader of the party. I have therefore to conclude that Nigel´s comment to me may not respond to reality, in which case I withdraw my reference to it.

In fact looking at the huge number of staff Nigel recruits in the UK and in Brussels and relating it to the 9 UKIP councillors that were elected out of 9,300 seats, I should have realized that the party enjoyed a more than comfortable financial situation! Apologies!!!

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#0480* – UKIP’s NEW MARE RIDES IN!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 14/05/2011

#0480* – UKIP’s NEW MARE RIDES IN!
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UKIP’s NEW MARE RIDES IN!
The Pretence of Consequence for UKIP’s CEO is No More Than An Embarrassment!!

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Hi,

an interesting comment on the obvious stupidity of letting idiots loose acting in their own interest and self serving greed for status to desperately try to lie, cheat and leapfrog their way to listing as potential MEPs – Just how embarrassing can the on line snippet in The Daily Mail be regarding this disaster?

Genuine Patriots in UKIP must be relieved that the story of this foolish and dishonourable failure did not get into any papers of note.

Few of any intelligence or decency would disagree with UKIP’s staff member and now NEC appointee Steve Allison who comments:

The politicisation of any previously non-political group is actually a very bad thing in my opinion. Would you say it was a good thing that Remembrance Sunday is becoming more and more political? How long before it’s just another campaign activity that we all tick off on our campaign plans? I have never and will never lay a UKIP Wreath at a remembrance parade. I don’t want politics in that day. Look at the outcry when Tony Blair tried to use Royal occasions for party politics.

Try reading the Triumph of the political class by Peter Obourne. Brilliant Book. We should be fighting for less politics in things not more.

I do congratulate Lisa and her team on their result but I am still slightly saddened that politics has gained another foothold. In my opinion party politics shouldn’t be a part of local government at any level.

Clearly neither Peter Reeve nor his doxy Lisa Duffy would have the intellect or fundamental common sense to realise the damaging and demeaning folly of their stupidity.

So within hours the foolish pair dashed down to get their hands on the chain for a quick snap which demeans not only UKIP but the office of this glorified Parish Council – Ramsey is sadly made to look stupid by such behaviour – could they find no one of sober and self effacing competence?

This does rather show the stupidity of unprofessional UKIP with no competent training being used and abused for personal gain! What a shame to politicise yet another area of life just for these odious nobodies!

  • Population in 1801 – 1894.
  • Population in 1851 – 4645.
  • Population in 1901 – 4823.
  • Population in 1951 – 5770.
  • Population in 1971 – 5646.
  • After 1981 the parish population figures were divided into to the two de-facto parishes of Ramsey St. Mary and Ramsey Town.
  • Population in 1981 – 5816 (Ramsey St. Mary parish) and 3652 (Ramsey Town).
  • Population in 1991 – 4995 (Ramsey St. Mary parish) and 5181 (Ramsey Town).

I assume this includes the quoted 1,400 students at the local college!

Sadly this does put the over blown claims of UKIP’s achievements in perspective:

The Mouse That Roared!

Ruritania Rides Out?

I do appreciate this is being promoted as some sort of achievement to cover for the wholesale failure of UKIP in domestic politics.

I live in Chepstow in Monmouthshire at Geo. Sat. 353 484-194 013 or if you would rather NP16 5ET & NP16 5EX – you will note that is almost slap bang in the middle of the town of Chepstow.

Chepstow has a population of around 20,000 and in most wards it is a struggle to find someone to stand for the clown Council as it is – like all other Town Councils – virtually irrelevant – in fact I haven’t a clue and less interest who is the Mayor, a title awarded on the basis of ‘Buggins Turn’. £1 for each time I have been approached to stand or be co-opted to unfilled seats would pay for a pleasant evening for myself and a couple of friends at a local restaurant.

I note the comments of a UKIP supporter, in the local area of Ramsey, Len Baynes on one of the UKIP controlled Forums is telling and clearly UKIP would seem to have done themselves more harm than good with this appointment:

There are times when it is a good strategy not to win some elections. It has been a good strategy by Peter Reeve & Lisa Duffy to win district & council seats in their town & Lisa is set fair to win the final district council seat next year.

But the way they have taken over the parish council has left a bad taste in the town. The council has always been non-political and has had good respresentation from the town & the villages which make up the Ramsey ward. But UKIP flooded the ballot paper with candidates some of whom don’t live in the ward; and won an immediate majority. They then voted in Lisa Duffy as mayor and Ian Curtis as deputy mayor. Indeed the whole stance is combative so instead of everyone sitting randomly round the table Reeve has put all the UKIP members on one side of the table and the rest on the other side.

This is too much too soon and has shaken a lot of people in the town. It would be stupid to lose the bigger prizes by appearing to want a “benign” dictatorship in the area.

So far contary to some of the statements on this forum the Tories have been quite laid back about UKIP in the Ramsey area as they have huge majorities in Huntingdon DC and Peterborogh City council. This year the Lib DEms didn’t put up a candidate and the Tories put up a paper candidate & did no canvassing or electioneering. However make too big a noise and maybe they’ll get together in a common cause and start spending some money.

Come on guys use your brains

 Another supporter in damning Peter Reeve with sarcasm and feint praise for mounting this politicised raid describes the situation as Lilliputian!

It is hard to disagree – yes indeed well done for personal achievement there will always be those who seek to busy body and claim importance and it is great that our democracy allows for such self important people to gather and discuss, with no authority, the siting of benches, doug fouling in the streets, and as a vent for complaints about late night noise on some Councils they even sometimes have a local community Constable attend.

Even locally I have NEVER heard a political party crowing over the banal squabblings of the mental midgets on our council.

Sorry to present this as some great achievement shows UKIP up and demeans the party more than assists them.

That the party had such risible results in the recent local elections is further highlighted by the fact that they make much of this when let us face it Steve Povey would have been embarrassed if such agrandisement of his time as Mayor had been thus presented!

It is all as toe curlingly embarrassing as  having UKIP represented by proven liars and cheats like Mick McGough, David Bannerman and the like – the gonadically challenged like Gerard Batten, John Bufton and their ilk the utterly stupid like Godfrey bloom or the fraudulently dishonest such as Stuart Agnew, Derek Clark.

Then to see some irrelevant hireling writing blogs and essays dragging the name and reputation of Winston Churchill into the gutter politics of UKIP so demeans the party as to further render them unfit for purpose.

The tragedy is that UKIP was our only lifeboat and they have so demeaned themselves that the people of Britain have resoundingly rejected them as even after 18 years and many £Millions invested out of the 19,500 available seats for election their only claim is to have done better than the crypto communist Greens and promote as their great achievement ONE Mayor placed in a town council! Less than 30 seats are occupied across Britain by those elected as UKIP and of those 13 were elected on the wake of protest against Westminster’s perceived corruption to be MEPs – seen by the British public as largely irrelevant – and who could argue!

Sadly in or should I say within The EU UKIP’s residual 9 members in support of Farage would seem only to be seen as a slightly embarrassing comedy act. It is hardly surprising when one looks at the pond life gathered and rewarded as praise singers – all too willing to offer praise of Farage in return for the monies he liberally contributes to them from the public purse!

Is it any wonder that UKIP is described as bankrupt which I readily concede is something of a foolish statement by the half baked accountant and self publicist Marta Andreasen but that they are technically insolvent must come as little surprise as they desperately wriggle and squirm to avoid further liabilities for their utter incompetence in leadership and man management that has laid them open to serial exposure in the Courts.

Clearly they are broke as they have not as yet honoured their moral debts to me of £12,500 and clearly can not pay them – nor even honour the debt they incurred by their action as ordered by Cardiff Courts of £8,500 – yes it seems they are technically bankrupt their only excuse may be that they are morally bankrupt and utterly duplicitous.

I note Farage has been asked ‘to do a turn’ on 31st. May at a funded talking shop where the promotion is based on offering as compensation for listening to him ‘At least the cocktails will be enjoyable’ – in the invitations!
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#0479* – UKIP’s GOLDEN GIRL HAS FEET OF CLAY

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 13/05/2011

#0479* – UKIP’s GOLDEN GIRL HAS FEET OF CLAY
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UKIP’s GOLDEN GIRL HAS FEET OF CLAY!
She May Well Find She Has Bed Sores Too Visible To Ply Her Trade!

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Hi,

here is the banner advertisement from UKIP’s web site today – Friday 13th.

 We would like to remind the honest patriotic supporters of UKIP that this is the flag placed in the hands corruptly and dishonestly CLICK HERE

Befouling and besmirching UKIP and these United Kingdoms based upon nothing more than self interest in the placement of Marta Andreasen born in The Argentine shortly after WWII to Danish emigree parents, who adopted Spanish citizenship and married a Swede.

A woman with a slime trail rather than a track record having been removed from her post at The OECD she then subsequently was employed as a functionary by The EU where she gained employment by the dishonest expedient of a lie of omission.

The Court record shows that she was removed from her job having failed to produce the report on fraud she had been paid to produce nor was she able to present the recommendations as to how The EU could control fraud that was a part of her job.

The Court found against her see CLICK HERE

May I remind you that this blog published these facts and filth like the habitual liars that write as skeptyk as spokesmen of UKIP leadership with the foul language of Annabelle Fuller and the stunted self serving dishonesty of a dwarf in a cartoon endlessly inventing scenarios and conspiracy theories – rightly too ashamed to put their name to them and the utterly discreditted liar and cheat Mick McGough were all to keen to attack and lie about me and this blog with childish and implausible regularity.

Do note the sponsors of Marta Andreasen in her various bids for self enrichment even down to a book tour to sell her novella in both Britain and Eire.

You will also note it was not until the gullible in UKIP had taken the bait that she made much of reinventing herself as some sort of EU whistle blower – long after she had lost her job on Neil Kinnock’s staff as I recall.

That Marta Andreasen had tried to get assimilated into various other British parties first was an open secret but they had seen through the vile woman.

It was Hugh Williams, Malcolm Pearson, Mick McGough, Nigel Farage and other self serving inadequates in UKIP who handed this woman the flag of these United Kingdoms to trail as her cape through the gutter.

It would seem that whilst the patriots of UKIP support the party with no thought of personal gain the corrupt leadership aided and abetted her dishonesty and corruption handing her OUR flag!

We note she is it seems likely to prostitute OUR flag for leverage to a place (probably via the non escrit where she will find no friends amongst the decent patriotic UKIP supporters who have already distanced themselves from Farage’s befouled behaviour and chums) we can expect Marta Andreasen to trade OUR flag to The EPP to further betray these United Kingdoms as she jokeys for a position in Center Right Politics of Spain – or where else she makes her bed and prostitutes herself!

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#0464* – UKIP COULD HAVE BEEN THERE – Well Done Chris HUDSON

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/05/2011

#0464* – UKIP COULD HAVE BEEN THERE – Well Done Chris HUDSON
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UKIP COULD HAVE BEEN THERE – Well Done Chris HUDSON
who won the Suffolk Coastal Seat!

A Seat UKIP DELIBERATELY DESTROYED in Petty Jealousy and dishonest in fighting and abuse!

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Hi,

a small example for UKIP that shows that corruption, dishonesty, greed, bullying and liars are no substitute for integrity.

Congratulations to Chris Hudson who yesterday won the seat of Suffolk Coastal as a Tory.

Many will remember this was the seat where John West was the candidate for UKIP until he was lied about, abused, ridiculed and mocked with no political support from scum like utterly discredited thief fraud and dishonourable Stuart Agnew MEP, the liar George Curtis, the corrupt and professionally inadequate Andrew Smith, the totally discreditted liar cheat and low life Mick McGough, the foul mouthed and dishonourable Annabelle Fuller, the bully liar and discreditted abuser Peter Reeve, the dellusional dishonest creep David Bannerman, the self serving corrupt Stuart Gulleford and others.

Let us not forget that UKIP destroyed Suffolk Coastal branch and in the election yesterday was completely incapable of finding a single applicant or representative to stand not even on their level of paper candidate could they even find toilet paper to stand!

For quite some time Chris Hudson was lauded by UKIP and even called upon to represent Geoffrey Titford, UKIP’s one time leader – Chris’s political experience was called upon by Farage for advice even having years of experience with the Tory Party.

Chris Hudson had lent his support to UKIP in the belief that they would act as Britain’s lifeboat to lead Britain to Leave-The-EU – when it became apparent they were just a small claque seeking self aggrandisement and self enrichment through exploitation he accepted the Tory offer to return and be their candidate in Suffolk Coastal.

Standing for his first time and still adherent to his Leave-The-EU agenda at first glance it looks as if he has received a larger percentage of the vote than had UKIP anywhere!

UKIP on the other hand has seen the outcome of their odious behaviour and their results have been an unmitigated and unprincipled catastrophy if it is still pretending to lead Britain to Leave-The-EU.
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#0451* – INSTEAD of LIES UKIP SHOULD FULFIL ITS PROMISES

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 30/04/2011

#0451* – INSTEAD of LIES UKIP SHOULD FULFIL ITS PROMISES!
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INSTEAD of LIES UKIP SHOULD FULFIL ITS PROMISES!

When was it that UKIP was going to Professionalise & Which Lies Do Its Leadership Honour?

We know the pond life whose belief that smears and lies constitute political wisdom are all too prevalent amongs UKIP Leadership’s parasites!

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Hi,

in view of the endless pretence, never displayed, of UKIP being professionalised and the PROMISES made by the party’s ONLY credible asset that he will professionalise the party perhaps we should look at how their only competent performer left measures up for integrity, reliability, probity and honesty!

Do correct me if I am wrong but did not UKIP’s only performer give a promise on Meridian TV that NO UKIP ELECTED OFFICER WOULD EVER EMPLOY THEIR FAMILY!

Now I am aware that mistresses are not technically ‘family’ but employing them as staff funded from the tax payers must surely be seen as morally unacceptable but when the SO CALLED leader of the Party outright lies to the electorate and employs his wife as proven by The Sunday Times – on a salary of £30K that must be seen to be dragging the party name into the gutter just as readily as do many UKIP leadership supporters with their cowardly and dishonest comments about long term supporters with whom they disagree as they may find their income and gain chain exposed.

Clearly it is apposite when just about every aspect of UKIP leadership isd founded on lies to note that there are absolutely ZERO signs of the PROMISED professionalisation of the shambles!

Take for instance http://www. ukip.org/london Crass isn’t it:

About London

UKIP is a new political party, of traditional values. What does that mean?

• Put simply, it is a party of Common Sense. Whether we like it or not, and in our heart of hearts we all do, we are all born into an extended family called Britain which feels a sense of kinship within itself. It is common sense to want to preserve this family intact and not to merge it with other countries who have their own and different aims and traditions. We must keep our independence and identity.

• It also stands for Small Government – we do not see the role of Government as that of interfering in every last detail of people’s lives ; on the contrary we believe in leaving people to run their own lives as they see fit, and intervening ONLY when abuses are occurring as a result.

UKIP is a NEW party, only formed in 1993. It currently has around 17,000 members, and is getting bigger. It is smaller than the much older “big three”, which are, however, shrinking rapidly. Tory and Labour have around 200,000 members a piece and the Lib Dems around 70,000 members.

In the Reigate branch which covers Redhill, Salfords and Merstham we have a dedicated team of people who are passionate about restoring local control over our town and being able to make decisions on what we want rather than an unelected bunch of people in Brussels. Please join us in this fight.

How could someone with aspirations to standing as London Mayoral Candidate as does Lawrence Webb I believe square the last paragraph with one iota of professionalism.

Surely the inclusion of that paragraph is about as professional as the endlessd lies from Nigel Farage whilst pretending to lead UKIP whilst bringing UKIP into disrepute by telling outright lies regarding Tom Wise and fraud within the party and how he HAD dealt with it when he most clearly had not.

Let us look in a little more detail at UKIP London – Gerard Batten’s province where I note under http://www.ukip.org/london/articles there is only the one article since 2009 and that was well over a year ago.

As for   http://www.ukip.org/london/news you will note nothing news worthy has attracted UKIP London’s attention as of any note since January 2010.

As professionalising the party goes well might the first point on the list, after tyhe self important little manifesto be >WHY UKIP<

Frankly I haven’t a clue and clearly UKIP are even worse informed as they had not even bothered looking!

A brief glance at UKIP Forum yet again shows the crass level of unprofessionalism of many of its more outspoken members – they seem to believe desperately smearing anyone who might have a political view passes as political intelligence and the still permit UKIP reputation to be dragged in the gutter by the ill informed and self serving vitriol of the liar and low life Mick McGough who has so demeaned UKIP, CIB & TFA with his outright lies, his odious and childish bullying and his lies about both himself and others – so very UKIP sadly!

Parading his dishonesty before the ignorami on UKIP Forum just shows him for the fool he is – I note he is desperately trying to sell the belief that UKIP MEP candidates were legally bound to obey the diktat of Farage when that is patently untrue and has been proven so.

However he does fail to show that he was only ever a candidate because he lied and was all too willing to cheat his own supposed friends and associates and lie to members for his personal advancement – just how low does such a creep have to go to be considered a liability bringing the name of UKIP into disrepute.

Mick McGough is a dishonourable, dishonest and corrupt liar and has been proven to be by UKIP itself but UKIP’s standards and lack of professionalism clearly find dishonesty acceptable CLICK HERE
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#0442* – UKIP, Farage,The BNP & The Parasites

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 26/04/2011

#0442* – UKIP, Farage,The BNP & The Parasites
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is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!  
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UKIP, Farage,The BNP & The Parasites Exposed!

NO INITIATIVE for honesty, integrity, transparency, probity or accountability HAS EVER been put forward by Farage or the maggots that feed off him!

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Hi,

Leicester’s Mayoral sideshow is no concern of consequence but it is a measure of both how UKIP behaves, UKIP’s utter contempt for the electorate and clearly the contempt of senior members of UKIP for the due process of the Party they exploit as their self enriching route to the troughs on the gravy train.

When will UKIP get serious competent respectable leadership rather than the liars, cheats, chavs, bullies and clowns they currently have.

Yes there is no doubt that Nigel Farage is a great asset as a performer for UKIP and his gutter cuning that manipulates the maggots around him to ensure his hand is visible in every action but never his fingerprint is clearly a skill some MIGHT aspire to.

That the party is so controlled that it has become bereft of any talent that might work alongside Farage is self evident – just look what lack luster, incompetent and ill informed trash for the NEC and just look at the length and dishonesty to which the party has been manipulated to suit the ambitions of the one remaining schpieller.

The huge effort that was put into raising the profile of The BNP and the lies put about by Mark Croucher and various filth in UKIP – mostly too ashamed to put their name to their lies – to TRY to link people with The BNP.

You may remember when with great glee and against sound advice Nigel Farage was the sponsor and promoter of bringing his families friend Buster Mottram into UKIP – I gather he had at one time been a tennis lothario and had been a long time associate of Lt. Guy Farage who himself had been a supporter of The National Front we are told.

You may find these details from The Western Morning News of interest:

‘UKIP defends ex-NF member over e-mail’ on 24.3.07:

quote:

UKIP leader Nigel Farage has defended the decision to allow a former National Front activist to join his party – and threaten Westcountry MPs with losing their seats. This week the WMN revealed that former British tennis ace Buster Mottram had written to a number of MPs warning they could be “decapitated” at the next election if they do not sign up to the “Better Off Out” campaign.

He also claimed to be “implementing this particular strategy on behalf of Mr Farage”.
Yesterday the UKIP leader suggested he had not expressly ordered contact to be made with Westcountry MPs – but did support the efforts in principle

It is interesting to watch the dishonest spin put out by UKIP’s habitual liars and defamers like William Shaw, who to be fair has little knowledge of UKIP or seemingly politics merely a lack of manners and a willingness to lie in his childish abuse.

Then there are the normal maggots that lie and dissemble in support of a place picking up crumbs from the troughs on the gravy train like Skeptic, Independent UKIP, Mick McGough and their ilk who have been proven again and again to be willing to lie and distort for their own gain and are without honour or integrity – that most such are too ashamed to use their own name is unsurprising.

That Mick McGough has accepoted he has no reputation worth defending even as a proven liar and low life can hardly surprise.

It is interesting, for those who have followed the heart of UKIP politics for best part of 15 years to note the spin put about to hide the gross behaviour of the leadership.

One need only remember the irrefutable FACT that Douglas Denny was fired by his colleagues on The NEC as untrustworthy having corrupted the pretence of an election that put Farage in position just as it is irrefutable that Annabelle Fuller is a foul mouthed slut and a liar and with Mark Croucher deliberately set out to lie to try to keep their jobs with Nigel Farage, for had an honest man won that election they would have been out of the door with their over paid bribes straight down the toilet.

As a family friend of Farage’s Buster Mottram was widely lauded within UKIP and his affiliation with The National Front and latterly with The BNP was plaid down, yet widely known. However the efforts of Nigel Farage and his parasites to raise the profile of The BNP are well known:

That Farage was clearly using third parties for contacts with The BNP would seem obvious and his duplicitous gofer Mark Croucher is well known to have extremist political contacts and no reputation of either honesty, honour or integrity – little surprise that he was promoting The BNP with such energy! He was all too willing to lie about anyone or anything to justify being over paid!

Mark Croucher is a whore of the worst kind, who has prostituted morality and decency, as he has constantly acted in his own interest regardless how dishonestly or the consequence to others – a particularly unpleasant type of human being, feared by some and respected by no one.

The members of UKIP ELECTED to represent them on UKIP’s leading management committee amongst others Dr. David Abbott who would stand no dishonesty and no racism He was elected having informed Nigel Farage that misguidedly some years earlier he had made two minor donations of about $100 each to a British Nationalist organisation which subsequently transpired to be a front for fund raising for The BNP.

Nigel Farage personally condoned this and was well aware of the paltry sum relative to the large amount of money David had already and would subsequently donate and use in the interest of UKIP.

Another individual of notable competence and excellent pedigree who was ELECTED by the members was Dr. Eric Edmond – a mathematician and economic analyst of no mean ability who had taught at Liverpool University, had been a Civil Service adviser in Downing Street and had subsequently worked as an executive within The Bank of England. Doctorates come apace it seems as his wife Mary is a Senior Paediatric Consultant in The West of England and thus with David Abbott able to provide a unique insight into The British Health Services!

That these two men of letters, seemingly the only qualified Doctorates on the NEC at the time (or for that matter within the meilleur of the Party leadership), were both independent men of stature and probity did not sit easy with the low lifes gathered around the inadequates that were passing UKIP leadership. That they believed that public and party money should be accounted for did not sit easy with those there to aggrandise and enrich themselves!

A campaign commenced to remove these two honest men – just as had been carried out to remove honest individuals like Linda Guest, Richard Suchorzewski, Jill Chant etc. before them and the campaign mounted, including death threats, against Delroy Young ALL ELECTED TO THE NEC BY THE MEMBERS also Anthony Butcher who however weak, corrupt and venal he might be was ELECTED by his supporters.

Over the years Farage has engineered and cheated, usually through others, to ensure a compliant team of nodding donkeys (in the main outright Asses) who are bought and paid for and moulded to his needs for corruption and weak incompetent leadership.

In the knowledge that UKIP was facing an election in the following Spring and aware that the likely expectation was a collapse in the vote during the preceding summer the stance of The BNP was built up by Farage’s associates such that eventually – despite the difficulty of UKIP leadership being hounded to account for the huge amount of money that had seemingly been stolen in self enrichment scams or at very least not been honestly accounted, as with the £211K listed as OTHER EXPENSES in an office budget of some £400,000, whilst the scam described by Farage himself as:

‘UKIP’s most successful fund raise ever’

Ashford – had so David Bannerman the Party Chairman informed members:

‘merely funded the party to the value of less than 15% of the income’

whilst in one cheque alone, paid into a private bank account sums of £1/4 Million were unaccounted and went missing.

That Petrina Holdsworth as Chairman had previously resigned as she was not prepared to have her name associated with the corruption and financial misdeeds, including criminal fraud is a matter of public record.

Now there was the embarrassment of The Two Doctors and Delroy Young seeking transparency – a situation that had to be resolved or Mike Nattrass’ prediction made earlier:

‘How do you think we get our money, if you don’t shut up we will all end up in prison’.

The promotion of The BNP continued apace but it seems that a contingency plan was put in place to blacken the names of Dr. Abbott and Dr. Edmond for fear of reprisals over what seems to have been the money stolen from the party which they were determined, with Del Young, to have exposed.

You will be minded that at this same time the grime squad of UKIP was mobilised and active spreading their filth and dishonesty everywhere to rig the selection of MEP candidates a process being overseen by Christopher Gill – a failed ex Tory who had joined UKIP to more spectacularly fail – as he did when asked to preside over the Selection process CLICK HERE his suitability as a politician in his own right was displayed by the risible result he achieved in the constituency he had been given to serve The Tories previously as a safe TORY seat.

Nowhere was it more clearly shown that the British people vote for Parties not the trash that represent them!

An integral part of the ‘Plan B’ besides linking, utterly dishonestly, Abbott, Edmond, Suchorzewski and most farcically of all myself, with The BNP was the acceptance of a suggestion made by Martin Hasslam, Nigel Farage’s place man, who had done a great deal of pro bono accountancy work for Farage and had been a consistent and substantial donnor to UKIP, Martin suggested that he bring his tennis partner Nigel Farage’s friend to The NEC.

Farage personally agreed this as how could he not since I understand that Mottram was at the time in an ongoing relationship with Farage’s cousin and Martin was Farage’s trusted accountant.

No other NEC members seem to have been aware of this as I feel sure that at very least Drs. Abbott and Edmond and Delroy Young would have cautioned against it.

However come the day and sponsored WITH PERMISSION FROM FARAGE, Martin Hasslam introduced Buster Mottram to The NEC. Having introduced him to Abbott, Young and Edmond immediately prior to the formal meeting as I recall.

There was some ill mannered braying from the asses which Farage silenced and as a matter of manners Eric Edmond openly advocated politely listening to his proposition – once heard the detail for individuals of integrity would provide the weapons of its destruction only braying asses would fear succumbing to involvement with something as odious as The BNP.

That realising that Buster Mottram’s idiotic concept, once aired, would stand no chance of favour with the far more discerning membership than it had with himself and others seeking their own aggrandisement the entire debacle was used by Nigel Farage as his personal Reichstag Fire and soon after came the obscenity of Crystal Nacht and the slaughter of the innocents advancing the odious and machevellian Adolf Hitler to his power base as with Farage and the simpering maggots he surrounds himself with.

Drs. Abbott & Edmond together with Martin Hasslam and the much abused Deroy Young were rapidly consigned to history and lied about to ensure no danger of probity, transparency or reasoned debate in the rejection of Farage’s attempt seemingly to conjoin with the less extreme element of The BNP.

It was not long before Farage – expressly against the wishes of the membership of UKIP, had conjoined – not with The BNP – with the low lifes and extremists of EU gutter politics where he now leads the racist, xenophobic, anti Jewish and violently antio homosexual Pan EU Political EFD Group.

It will be noted the odious and dishonest calliber of Nigel Farage’s chosen proponents of membership/forming a Pan EU Political Party men of no political caliber nor any intellectual standing liars, cheats, corrupt and ever willing to defraud for political gain – in this instance Farage’s chosen incubae are front run by Mick McGough and Stuart Agnew MEP both individuals proven to be without honour, integrity or probity.

Both Eric Edmond and David Abbott are as dedicated to the values and principles espoused by the members of UKIP, but have both discovered just how cheap and tawdry are the corrupt aims of the leadership and their parasites.
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#0439* – IF AGNEW, McWILLIAMS & McGOUGH Advocate A Sell Out:

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 25/04/2011

IF AGNEW, McWILLIAMS & McGOUGH Advocate A Sell Out:
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
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is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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IF Stuart AGNEW, Steph McWILLIAMS &Mick  McGOUGH Advocate A Sell Out:!!

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10-Apr-2011 – IF AGNEW, McWILLIAMS & McGOUGH Advocate A Sell Out:

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IF AGNEW, McWILLIAMS & McGOUGH Advocate A Sell Out then let us face it that should be enough for decent folk to know that a Yes vote makes no sense for Britain!

Let us look at the claimed reasons for a yes vote which they put forward:

By Stuart Agnew MEP, Steph McWilliam of the South West Region
and NEC Member 
Mick McGough
        Stuart AGNEW MEP
Steph McWILLIAMS

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This vote is about three vital opportunities for our Party. First, this vote is about the Party being able to pay for a wide range of activities in the UK using, effectively, UK Taxpayer’s money returned to us by the EU.
Clearly larger parties will have a hugely larger amount. More tax payers’ money squandered on useless politicians – take the moral high ground and Vote NO.
Secondly, this vote will provide the Party with the services of a Think Tank which will enable us, for the very first time, to match our opponents in strategy and policy-formation. If we are to be a serious contender in British politics, this is a vital strength we must add.
A Think Tank requires individual capable of political thought – every time UKIP has had anyone of this ilk it has permitted its leader to fire them and replace them with a fully funded sycophant!
Thirdly, this vote is about denying our enemies approximately £1,300,000 in funding which will otherwise be divided up between them.
Slightly less than the cost of ONE MEP – if UKIP MEPs had danated a percentage of their salary to the party this sum would be dwarfed.
Above all, this vote is about building upon our successes from 2009 to today to displace the Liberal Democrats and win the European Elections in 2014.
UKIP has had no success – it has merely dishonestly capitalised on the lack of factual knowledge of the electorate relative to expenses and the promotion of The BNP by Farage & Croucher.

UKIP has lost its ONLY MEPs with any integrity.

Vote “NO” if you want UKIP to languish on the fringe of politics.
Vote NO and concentrate on Clening Up UKIP to make it electable – rid of liars, low lifes and cheats like McGough, Agnew, Bloom, Nuttall, Bannerman, Clark, Andreasen etc.
Vote “YES” for progress in our noble cause.
There is absolutely nothing ‘Noble’ about UKIP’s self serving garbage that forms its leadership and its parasites.
The scheme involves UKIP joining a European political party based on the existing Europe of Freedom and Democracy Group
But they are unprincipled trash – anti Jewish, anti homosexual, racist, xenophobic and pro EU membership and revisionism. EVER UKIP MEP of any morality has resigned because of these filth!
and creating a professional Think Tank to enable us
With the permission of UKIP’s utterly corrupt co-campaigners in the gutter of EU politics.
– for the first time – to produce policy papers explaining our messages.
Richard North waas producing those on a regular basis as was Heather Cunningham but UKIP leadership were too stupid to understand the value – so they fired them!
Starting from our current, comfortable set of working relationships with our prospective allies, we are advised that the ANNUAL allocation of funds would be:
But NO ONE would want to be associated with filth like that EVEN for money!

For the political party € 850,000 (£733,000 approx) and;
For the Think Tank € 500,000 (£431,000 approx)


That gives €1,350,000 (£1,164,000 approx.) gross per year.
PEANUTS relative to the amount UKIP leadership could contribute and a fraction of the cash they could raise if anyone respected or trusted them.
Deducting administration and salaries leaves about € 600,000 (£518,000 approx) for the political party and €350,000 (£219,000 approx) for the Think Tank.
UKIP Hugely over pays mediocre trash and for rational salaries could tripple the staff for research – Not ONE UKIP staff member is worth the money they are paid and these idiots want to squander more!.
UKIP might expect, with the size of its delegation, to get approximately half that sum every year. This would mean that, EVERY YEAR, we would have the benefit of the sum of up to € 475,000 (£400,000 approximately) from the political party and the Foundation.  To put this in perspective, the 2010 general election cost us some £350,000.  We currently have nothing like that at our disposal.
Due to profligacy, fraud, failures of accounting and seemingly amounts running into at least 7 figures that have seemingly been nicked. Farage alone boasts he has made £2Million over and above his salary and expenses!

He has been paying his wife £30K for years and now he pays a so called Tory based PR agency to rig internal elections for him whilst seemingly funding one of his mistresses a foul mouthed woman of proven low morality and gutter morays – with clearly little ability and corrupt – paid from Party funds or at very least funds available to the party!
By the end of this Parliament we will have had access to more than £1 million. This is a sum which we scarcely dream of raising by conventional methods.
RUBBISH this is a fraction of the money that has gone missing due to corrupt internal accounting.

What makes anyone think this new money wouldn’t be stolen too?
The grant is used to meet expenditure linked to the objectives set out in the European  party’s political programme, such as:

Meetings, conferences
Publications, studies, advertisements
Administrative, personnel, travel costs
Campaign costs connected to European elections.

This is just jumping through The EU’s hoops to get The EU bribes – how does this differ from prostitution?
For example, we might use it to produce a flyer for the UK’s young female voters on the effects of the recent European Court of Justice decision which will drive up their insurance premiums – in the name of equality!
IF OF COURSE the partners in this scam don’t wish to see it spent altering imigration from Afriica to Southern Italy to pay for train tickets for them to relocate to Britain.

SCARILY JUST AS POSSIBLE (though just as unlikely as UKIP producing a well thought out and designed leaflet!).
Given its direct connection to EU Law, we can pay for it under the publications heading.
WITH CLEARANCE from The EU AND partners in the Group!
As part of EFD we already have to conform to similar rules about what we can do and how. It has not caused a problem – and it will not cause a problem if we take this grant.
This is not true.

There is no accounting for the £76,000 per MEP currently obtained under the 400 Budget. Further there is no accounting for the 6000 Travel Budget – is the money designated but not used by UKIP MEPs used as bribes to buy members of the EFD Group?
We cannot use the grant to meet expenditure such as:
DO READ THE RULES! GoTo CLICK HERE & then CLICK the first picture.

Campaign costs for referenda1
Non-European elections
Funding national parties, candidates
Debts and debt service charges.


Much may be made of the exclusion of “direct or indirect funding”. But when 2014 comes along, we can use a big chunk of our share for the campaign costs of that year’s European Elections quite legitimately.

WITH the permission of one’s partners!
Do also bear in mind the fact that the leading parties will receive far more so all it means is that the cost of politics increases and UKIP will be absolutely no better off – whereas if they refused to please The EU they could make huge issue of how the public were not being allowed to vote democratically on a level playing field!

The EU itself makes that clear.

Do YOU really believe that the EU EVER makes anything clear? How very naiive!

In other years imagine what we could do with our grant to campaign on issues such as the European Arrest Warrant, European Court of Human Rights’ judgments or how the EU and the Treaties undermine our immigration policy.

Just think UKIP might even have thought of campaigning to Leave-The-EU!!

Right now we simply do not have the money.

The intelligence, the integrity or the ability!

Given that at least 75% of our laws are now made in Brussels, almost every subject that UKIP campaigns upon is affected by EU legislation.

One wonders how these clowns could have reached such a profound insight without a Think Tank!

That means that we can direct this money to help us in the UK.

Might that include publishing an exit and survival strategy that they have lacked the ability to produce in 18 years despite the many £Millions that have gone amiss!

Indeed it is probable that 90% of the funds can be so utilised.

IF UKIP’s partners don’t want the money spent on ammending the fisheries policy to benefit Mediteranean fishermen – maybe if the bribes are adequate they can also help fund Austria’s maritime policies!

On top of that we will have the Think Tank (Foundation).

Already a percentage of what support UKIP could give is being squandered on support of GM Foods, and other NFU policies. As for intelligence surely no one can take seriously any advice on research from a slime like Mick McGough who lied to and cheated his associates and Party members with his lies about being PPC for Harlow CLICK HERE

We would be able to match the likes of Open Europe and the Tories in producing high quality research and policy proposals.

Don’t be daft – they have both ability and experience – They also seem able to fund Think Tanks when clearly UKIP can’t even think let alone directionally!

We can  produce strategic material to set the agenda for political debate in the UK instead of always being the party which has to react to others’ ideas.

Hardly likely as UKIP under its present leadership is scared to death of intelligence and relies on bullying and abuse as a management style, not to mention distortion and lies!

We can use Think Tank funding to give professional presentations to the press.

Anyone can do that with just the simplest of ability and wise use of software and IT. All at virtually no cost.
IF UKIP is too incompetent for the huge amount squandered on the parasites it gathers in its Press Office & PR it could hire a professional.

In short, a Think Tank will help UKIP to punch above its weight and mix it with the Old Parties at an entirely new level.

RUBBISH you on the one hand explain how the professional politicians are streets ahead then you add money in liberal tranches to those same politicians and miraculously you expect UKIP to develope a brain!!
Get Real!

If we are to match our ambitions to become the third party of British politics and winners in 2014, this is a vital step to attain the professionalism so roundly endorsed by our membership in the 2010 leadership election.

Is there a reason you have chosen to fail and merely remain the third party?

All this does require a small amount of matched funding: as little as 10% of the amount. And initially we only have to raise a share proportionate to our size – and of that only a small  proportion has to be found up front. The rest can be found as individual projects are brought forward.  We can achieve that.

How come there is no record of consistent donation to the party by its MEPs other than for their own personal re-election and even then some like Farage NEVER make donations, as the record shows!

If conditions or the Regulations change unfavourably, we can leave at any time, just as one can leave an alliance or a coalition.

They are unfavourable!
There are no signs of UKIP disassociating from the scum in The EFD

There is, in addition, another side to these grants. Our €1,350,000 (£1,170,000 approx) comes from a finite pot. Presently 10 parties take money from that pot. If we become number 11, then the other ten parties lose, on average, €135,000 (£117,000 approx).

So UKIP’s insignificant gain would not significantly harm the larger parties!

So, there are benefits to UKIP which at one and the same moment harm our enemies: a double-whammy with our enemies in the middle!

Doesn’t this denote the weakness of the argument in favour of prostituting UKIP to obliging The EU?

Just as the Salvation Army used to go around pubs and sell their publications with the slogan “Take the Devil’s money to do God’s work!”, so might we take what is after all UK Taxpayer’s money and use it to bring us victory in our noble cause. Would you rather that YOUR money is used to fund our enemies’ campaigns or to fund UKIP’s?

Even ignoring the moral issue of obliging the EU and jumping through their hoops –
Consider the wisdom of providing ones enemies with £20 to buy weapons in return for being given £2.50.
The sum one receives relative to ones’ enemies is so paultry in relationship that it is better to hold the moral high ground and sabotage the scheme.

If you think that this money might just come in a bit handy to help destroy Federalism and Integration, vote ‘YES’!

Voting YES I believe I have clearly shown aids The EU to advance its corrupt aims at the expense of these United Kingdoms whilst some completely idiotic numpties can be duped into assisting The EU with a Yes vote!

The ‘NO’ campaign alleges that the UKIP brand would be diluted. This is nonsense.

You fail totally to make an argument let alone a convincing OR valid argument. Giving other parties £20 and UKIP £2.50 by definition dilutes UKIP’s efficacy – the only answer is to block the EU’s scam and seize the moral high ground.

The Conservatives are part of a European Political Party. Which is better known in the UK: ‘The Conservative Party’ or ‘The Alliance of European Conservatives and Reformists’?

Stop 100 people in the street and not more than 5 would be able to tell you this, possibly even less.

Indeed has anyone ever heard of ‘The Alliance of European Conservatives and Reformists’? Of course not, because the Tories still fight under their own name and their brand is not diluted in any way.

You make my point for me yet you seek to grant legitimacy to Pan EU Political Parties supplanting National Parties in international Groups – DO READ THE RULES!

The ‘NO’ campaign claims taking part in a European Political Party is ‘Federalist’ and ‘Integrationist’.

It undeniably is as it requires subsuming ones’ National Party and asspirations to a Pan EU Party. Do WAKE-UP!

But surely to do so is no more ‘Federalist’ and ‘Integrationist’ than taking part in European Elections or, once elected, taking your seat and being an MEP.

Don’t be daft – there is absolutely no similarity and giving bufoons like you money to run a think tank shows the danger of this new EU Scam.

Every month our MEPs receive substantial sums. Are they thereby taking the ‘Federalist’ and ‘Integrationist’ Shilling? No! The money for the party is no more ‘Federalist’ and ‘Integrationist’ than the money paid to MEPs.

This is a falsehood and clearly it is a calculated risk – though equally clearly most UKIP MEPs have gone totally Native and even Farage has castigated MEPs like Derek Clark for doing no work in their constituencies – naturally he fears the liar and dishonest Marta Andreasen and has not commented on her disinterest in her constituency, wherever she may consider that to be, Barcelona?

And, remember, using this money, they are daily carrying the fight to the very heart of the EU in Brussels and Strasbourg.

Which in 18 years has been shown to be a complete waste of time as The EU Parliament is a complete irrelevance and only of use, as Nikki Sinclaire uses it, to provide sound bites to address in the British Media – That her hard work has spread across the media of the rest of The EU is a measure of her efficacy!

Stuart Agnew’s ONLY National coverage has been for his corruption, dishonesty and fraud!

The ‘NO’ campaign says that “accepting its money is corrupt”. So is the ‘NO’ campaign saying that our MEPs and their staff are corrupt?

Well? Answer that for yourself and you will soon realise why UKIP has NEVER achieved anything of value in The UK – They are not trusted because of their widely publicised corruption – whether theft by Agnew, Fraud by Clark, Agnew, Bannerman, self enrichment and infantile behaviour of Farage, the lies of Andreassen, Agnew, Bannerman, Agnew, Batten, the collusion in corruption by each and every UKIP MEP CLICK HERE

There is absolutely no way that it can be denied, on numerous counts, that UKIP MEPs and staff are corrupt – one even went to prison for fraud, so far, despite strenuous protection by his associates who colluded in his criminality and Farage even p[rofitted from it. Consider the undeniable dishonesty of Annabelle Fuller bringing UKIP into disrepute and the contempt for British Courts and dishonourable behaviour of Mark Croucher acting with UKIP’s support CLICK HERE

Of course not.

We all have different standards, I appreciate, however clearly yours are shown to be beneath contempt.

That they make this allegation merely demonstrates the absurdity of their argument.

I will happily debate your lies, dishonesty, corruption and misrepresentation on ANY public platform which I can attend.

As we see below, some time ago, after proper debate, the Party took the pragmatic decision to fight and take up seats in the European Parliament. It did so notwithstanding the ‘Federalist’ and ‘Integrationist’ nature of the institution.
Who now says this was the wrong decision?

Many still consider it was a mistake and the glee with which MEPs and their parasites leap onto the gravy train and seem to do NOTHING of value towards Leave-The-EU but much to further their election chances would incline to display this fact!

May I remind the author that at the UKIP Party Conference there was a very clear debate against joining Pan EU Political Parties – Yet just like the EU those who hope for self enrichment seek to overturn the Party Members’ Decision to seek a different result.

And some claim UKIP MEPs have not adopted the morays of The EU!

No one, for the simple reason that it provides the noble cause we all serve with an enormous platform to fight the enemies of British Independence

Is this a management decision to LIE and deny the unequivocal rejection of the concept by Members?

– a platform which the gerrymandered Westminster electoral system denies us.

Do look up ‘gerrymander’ rather than display your complete political ignorance when relative to this issue!

Taking what some called the ‘Federalist’ and ‘Integrationist’ Shilling has boosted our cause exponentially.

It CAN be argued that it has prostituted the integrity hence we have filth like Mick McGough, Stuart Agnew and their ilk telling lies to try to promote a Yes Vote and the sell out of UKIP.

The ‘NO’ campaign alleges UKIP will have to pay tax to HMRC on this money. They are wrong. The only tax that a European Political Party will have to pay is VAT.

So the Party will have to pay tax on the income – Surely even political ignorami like Mick McGough and Stuart Agnew realise that VAT stands for Value Added TAX – which is a tax of £2 in every £10!

A TAX Dummy!

The ‘NO’ campaign contends that this money may not be used for UK political activity.

Read the rules – this is still a matter of debate!

This too is nonsense.

Please quote the exact authorisation that this money may be freely used to influence domestic politics – even WITH permission from UKIP’s pro EU associates!

As we have seen much of our grant may properly and legally be directed at our target audience.

We have also noted that much of it can be paid into off shore accounts and that UKIP can not be trusted to produce transparent open accounts with even the slightest semblance of probity.

You may be astonished to know that UKIP MEPs are so unaccountable and UKIP NEC are so ill informed that when Mike Nattrass MEP in a forthright rejection of the manner in which UKIP was led and managed there were NEC members who disn’t even realise Nigel Farage was paying his wife despite his promise to UKIP, the members and the electorate that never would he or any elected UKIP official pay a family member.

YES THEY ARE THAT STUPID!

Moreover, does anyone imagine that the Tories take all their money (the best part of €2,000,000 or £1,750,000 approx) and spend it all in Brussels? Only the utterly naive would credit such an idea.

The vagiaries of other Parties are NOT the issue the issue is how clearly it has been proven that UKIP is not to be trusted and its MEPs and staff are as a generalisation reasonably denounced as corrupt, dishonest and untrustworthy.

The contention of the ‘NO’ campaign that we must concentrate on the UK media to the exclusion of Brussels is, once again, deeply misguided.

No wonder you can give no example why! Clearly IF UKIP sees itself as a withdrawalist party its ONLY relevant audience is Britain and its ONLY place of power to achieve withdrawal is the British electorate.

The ‘NO’ campaign asserts that a European Political Party might endorse integration. Hardly, as we would have a major part in drawing up the party’s political programme. Are we likely to endorse a programme encouraging integration?

EXACTLY what HAS happened. Wee Willy Dartmouth has advocated additional laws to be implemented by The EU.
Clark advocated GREATER subsidiarity of Britain to The EU and also co-operation with The EU to strengthen the control of its committees over the vassal states.
Marta Andreassen has openly advocated Reform rather than withdrawal.
UKIP’s election leader even advocated voting for The Tories.
Stuart Agnew advocates policies for The NFU.

I believe my point is clearly made!

The absurdity of the question demonstrates just how weak are the ‘NO’ campaign’s arguments.

Better that the NO campaign weaklly put their facts than stridently lie like the Yes Campaign fronted by liars.

It is suggested that a European Political Party would somehow lead to the end of national political parties.

Do read the rules in conjunction with the EU Constitution Lisbon Treaty.

Ask yourself this: is the Conservative Party likely to abolish itself and campaign in UK elections as ‘The Alliance of European Conservatives and Reformists’?

YES – Do not forget Edward Heath later admitted that he had LIED to deliberately mislead the electorate.

A moment’s thought reveals that this too is absurd. 

Are YOU capable of a moment’s thought? Almost every point made for a Yes vote has been a complete misrepresentation.

The Tories would be committing political suicide.

What bunkum if they believe they will hold a controlling role in a major Pan EU Political Party – They would see this as an advance in their political ambitions as they are, as a party, pro EU membership.

We may think the Tories stupid, but they are not that stupid.

Is it not YOU being ‘stupid’ that you lack the political comprehension to understand guile rather than your own coarse dishonesty?

The Regulations make it clear we can use this money to campaign for European Elections.

WITH your partners’ permission and in accordance with EU constraints – Do read the rules!

In 2014 we aim to come first.

Yet a mere few paragraphs earlier the aim was to come third or was that only in the more important UK Political genre?

How are we to fund that ambition?

Particularly if as part of voting Yes we are giving our enemies more money than we get proportionately – That would clearly exacerbate the problem to no gain.

Will access to several hundred thousand Euros help or hinder us?

Hinder if it is beset with regulation and if in gaining that sum we morally grant the 3 main parties who are ALL pro EU £1Million each!
Do try joined up thinking!

As to raising money, the EU’s rules on donations are, compared to the UK’s, short, simple and elastic.

UKIP found UK rules eleastic and were found guilty in Court of being on the fiddle! Aided largely by Farage and Andrew Smith – Mick McGough’s sponsor!!
You may recal Andrew Smith was exposed as treasurer issuing an internal ‘e’Mail which I published advocating corruption and dishonesty with the intent to deceive the Electoral Commission – a matter about which, without ANY credibility Mick McGough has repeatedly lied and misrepresented as we see in the Yes Campaign’s dishonest presentation for personal gain.

Thus we shall be able to receive donations from expatriates and others who are otherwise prohibited in the UK.

Indeed – watch out Rob McWhirtter, they will be tracking you down in Switzerland! 
UKIP has already laundered corrupt donations from foreign donors as The Sunday Times exposed, using Global Britain a scam set up by Michael Pearson.

This will provide a new, untapped resource.

Rubbish – as a resource it is easily circumvented within the framework of electoral law it is just that UKIP has consistently been too stupid to act within the law!

And, remember that UKIP will be one of the big beasts in this party and so will be able to call the shots.

RUBBISH – UKIP currently has a mere 10 out of the 29 MEPs with 2 more likely to leave after the election and possibly as many as 6 wishing to leave to position themselves for re-election by the end of November.

Already we know that Bannerman is making further overtures to the Tories as has Andreassen in the past and it seems likely the dim wit Wee Willy temper tantrum will also jump ship. Then since John Bufton’s aims and values are those of UKIP members rather than the corrupt EFD and Farage it seems likely he will have the integrity to leave.

I doubt Batten will have the integrity as he lacks both integrity and moral conviction and I would guess that those outside of The EFD whether calling themselves UKIP or not would rather he did not join them as he is both untrustworthy and of very little merit or competence.


Rather Ruritainian as Big Beasts go – More The Mouse That Roared!

Finally, are we about to compromise our principles, as the “NO” campaign suggest?

Did they ‘suggest’ that – Irather thought they stated it unequivocally and again may I remind those of you on the make and the take that at The UKIP Conference the Membership soundly rejected the idea of joining a Pan EU Political Party.

Again, No!

Just how thick are you – surely you can not believe your own lies?

The Regulation says that a European Political Party must subscribe to the principles of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law.

Run that past me again!
You are quoting The EU as your founding principles – personally I trust virtually NOTHING that has emanated from The EU in the last 60 years.

UKIP might be said to support these principles more honestly and more comprehensively than any other party in the UK or, indeed the EU itself.

It is sad that there are so many proven liars, cheats and scoundrells seeking self aggrandisement and self enrichment as part of the leadership of UKIP and it parasites that climb all over the party like maggots in betrayal of principles seeking rewards!

This issue is the third substantive battle within UKIP between the purists and the pragmatists. Taking the money is the pragmatic option. It has prevailed twice before – and if the party is to succeed, then the pragmatists need to win again.

Pragmatists? Every time one eneters into a deal that prostitutes the party the party is demeaned.

Just look at how the party has collapsed in terms of informed activists, replacing much of the party with chavs, fools and the self seeking – unable after 18 years to field sufficient candidates to earn an electoral broadcast!

The pragmatism has led to making the party a laughing stock – would the purists act like fools and dress up as chickens? Would they field a schoolgirl unselected by due process as candidate for Mayor in a Major City? Would pragmatism back a series of failed publicans? Would pragmatism bring the party into disrepute in the Courts?

Yes twice before the pond life and filth have demeaned UKIP and yet again they seek self enrichment at the expense of the Party and principles –That is not pragmatism, that is prostitution.

In 1994 there was furious debate about the proposal to fight seats for the EU Parliament elections but not to take them up. Then in 1998 we agreed to take our seats if elected.

Since UKIP has effectively rendered itself irrelevant – Do you have a point?

One of those who left the party in disagreement over these very issues was Gerard Batten. Now an MEP, Gerard is a valued colleague, using his position (and money from the EU’s taxpayers) to fight – hard and effectively – for this great cause.

The man is a twerp of no value to the party as shown by his vote in The Mayoral Election and the near total collapse of his constituency. A man with no understanding of morality or Justice – show boating on Phillipino Catholic Politics of anti Islamism – his sole claim to achievem,ent being a brief re-write of the Government Pink Book on occasions to show the costs of EU membership – which The Pink Book shows without the re-write and used to be produced by Harry Randall on EUroRealist and SilentMajority within 2 days of The Government publishing The Pink Book!

How many of UKIP’s members would seriously oppose those decisions now?

As well over 30.000 have left in that period it is not hard to argue that the outcome suited the rump and dross of UKIP that remained.

The next step was to form part of a Group.

Which was catastrophic as the first group was led by the willey old Piers Bonde and it was through him that Farage would seem to have learned many of the tricks of corruption and dishonesty it seems.

Many saw it as a betrayal. Now, not only has it helped financially but it boosts speaking time and thus our profile: would UKIP and Nigel Farage have any hope of such exposure if he was not a Group leader?

Provably untrue and the EFD bears no resemblance. Farage is now linked irrevocably to the racism, anti Judaism, violence, dishonesty, corruption, anti homosexuality and pro EU stance of the majority of the group he runs and has duplicitousy subsumed UKIP into in direct contravention of the wishes of the members and it seems without the knowledge of some of the dim wits and fruit cakes on the NEC.

We know that the Parliamentary authorities try every legal trick in the book to censor and silence Nigel. 

Rubbish – cite a single example to substantiate such a silly claim.

Being in a Group means they can no longer freeze him out at key moments.

He manages to do this himself with the inanity of many of his comments – a performing monkey without the control of an Organ Grinder is a liability.

Do read the column inches in the press and the near total lack of National coverage of UKIP of any gravitas – because none is earned!

Above all, the formation of an opposition Group was exactly what the Europhiles and our enemies didn’t want us to do.

That UKIP has made itself look fools and behaved like fools and conjoined with the gutter sweepings of EU politics can surely not, in the most tortured and deluded mind, be construed as of benefit to these United Kingdoms.

That equally applies to creating a new political party in the Parliament.  It is exactly the step our enemies do NOT want us to take – which is why we MUST take it.

You are beyond ANY doubt your own worst enemies.

Would supporters of UKIP have so much ammunition in their efforts to clean-up the Party to TRY to make it electable as a Party that honourable men and women would vote for if informed – It is the very style of leadership and parasites l;ike yourselves that provide the amjmunition and drive true UKIP supporters and Patriots to exposing your corruption, dishonesty and outright lies – so clearly made for self enrichment.

Winston Churchill said in a speech in April 1941:“Give us the tools and we will finish the job”

It is well known that it is a bad workman that endlessly blames his tools.

UKIP Leadership and its maggots can find any number of excuses for their failure but are clearly unwilling to
CLEAN-UP THE PARTY to MAKE IT ELECTABLE

That clarion call might have been crafted with this issue, this Party and this moment in history in mind.

Wordy and pretentious cr@p – which book did which illiterate find this in!

This vote is about giving the Party the tools to finish the job.

It is clearly NOT the Tools at Fault but the corrupt leadership.

1 As a result of a vote in committee in March 2011, it is very likely that the restriction on using grants for referenda will be totally abolished. This is particularly relevant to any referendum held under the proposed European Union Bill 2011 currently going through Parliament. If a sovereignty referendum is called, all three of the old parties will in future be able to use this money to campaign for a “YES” vote. If we do not take this money we will be severely at a disadvantage in such a referendum. If we join up, however, we can use their funds to fight for a “No Transfer” vote.

My Word YOU have Gone Native – YOU can not be real quoting EU woffle as justification for your foolish claims.

YOU imply that EU committees have some relevance in the law making process – SINCE WHEN!

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