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#0599* – UKIP & FARAGE LACK BASIC MORALITY or ETHICS

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 23/07/2011

#0599* – UKIP & FARAGE LACK BASIC MORALITY or ETHICS

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~UKIP, FARAGE & The Leadership Claque LACK BASIC MORALITY or ETHICS!

Again and again they believe they are above the law and hold Britain and OUR Courts in contempt!

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further to my having posted the outcome of UKIP’s idiotic debacle in the Appeal Court this week – more details of which can be found at CLICK HERE – A perfectly rational question was asked of me, as posted below, to which I responded as shown:

Re: UKIP Lose Yet Again In The Courts!

Originally Posted by Streetwalker 

You post regually about the quality of personel that UKIP attracts ,of the connections with other European parties with questionable policies (EFD) . Over the years UKIP have expelled /refused membership to various undesirables . UKIP it seems are doing ,or rather trying to do exactly what you have long surgested in cleaning up its act . It would seem that ex BNP member Hardy had not changed his ultra right wing views after all .
UKIP’s one fault here is taking the advice of the legal proffesion to appeal the case . Sometimes you have to walk away , even when you are in the right.

My Reply:

Hi,

if only that was the basic truth I would agree with you – It is not.

UKIP’s inept and corrupt leadership has, as so often before, chosen to invent its rules on the hoof – do read the full judgement which can be see at CLICK HERE UKIP seem to believe, in their ineptitude and mismanagement, that they can have different rules for different people and as a result they make utter fools of themselves.

We note ex Deputy Leader and Party Chairman David Bannerman has made the written statement that Farage incurs an annual legal bill of around £140,000 AFAIR.

Fortunately David Bannerman, a liar, cheat and low life has decamped to The Tories as I predicted 7 years ago!

I totally endorse any action to clean-up UKIP, as without it they are a part of the problem and no part of the solution.

Breaking the laws of the land and being found guilty on a serial basis is no example for ANY politician to set – That is NOT cleaning up the party that is further befouling it – just as having different rules at different times for different people and liars and cheats like Mick McGough, Stuart Agnew, Marta Andreasen Derek Clark and their ilk as members of their leadership team makes them look no more than foolish – hence they have less than 30 people in elected office out of some 19,500 seats available – after 18 years!

I entirely agree that The BNP is a vile and contemptible organisation and I believe UKIP should NOT encourage racists and the anti Jewish low lifes that gather around the BNP to join without a panel clearance (3 months of ill informed membership of the BNP and a denunciation may well be a Patriot looking for a home rather than a Nationalist!). Be minded that Nigel Farage, as effectively THE PARTY, employed a BNP member as an election agent!

Do remember Nigel Farage who makes all the rules with a claque of chosen sycophants and boot lickers invited his family friend Buster Mottram to join UKIP against advice!

You may remember the outrageous comments of Nigel Farage’s puppet Malcolm Pearson that were so offensive to Muslims.

You may well have noted that UKIP endorses the killing of North African immigrants as espoused by their partners in the EFD Group.

Indeed cleaning up UKIP to try to make them electable, by informed decent people, is long over due and if they are unwilling to act with morality and ethically, show vision, display strategy, effect tactics and devise an exit and survival strategy after 18 years then PERHAPS they are working for The EU, rather than for withdrawal, as they have astonishingly NEVER had training sessions, an organisational structure or one wit of professionalism – do they assist The EU on purpose?

It has proved hugely rewarding for a small claque who feed at the troughs on the gravy train!

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#0587* – Rachel OXLEY Quits UKIP NEC 10-Jul-2011

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 13/07/2011

#0587* – Rachel OXLEY Quits UKIP NEC 10-Jul-2011

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~Rachel OXLEY Quits UKIP NEC 10-Jul-2011!

As a Junior School Teacher it can hardly have helped her credibility to be associated with low lifes and liars like Mick McGough, George Curtis, Hugh Williams, Douglas Denny, Derek Clark and the like on UKIP’s NEC!

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So Rachel Oxley has decided she has had enough and has resigned from The NEC of UKIP – I wonder if anyone will notice as they put another nodding donkey in place!


I am reliably informed that she had at least a year to run as an elected member but in view of the utter irrelevance of the NEC one can understand her quitting early!

The new elections for the NEC which should have been announced in December issue of the in house Farage Feste magazine for nominations and voting forms for February so that new members would take their seats in April is yet again running late and applications will be solicited in the next Party comic due out next week to make a last minute effort to dupe members into supporting The EU and assisting them by increasing a greater feeling of EU integration with Pan EU Political Parties which MEPs will be bribed to support with more money they control to promote The EU to their electorate – a concept Nigel Farage has advocated and two of his more dishonest sycophants have promoted for him mostly with lies.

I expect to see more nodding donkeys seeking agrandisement and a slide towards being chosen as MEPs joining the NEC irrespective of how people vote.

Consider George Curtis’ meteoric rise from never getting near enough votes to sudden popularity – Ray Finch who last time he stood fro a vote by his peers received 67 votes from the entire membership but may well have liked enough boots to have a meteoric rise in the same manner – Just as did the liar and cheat Mick McGough!

Hugh Williams who previously had been booted out for having betrayed his branch and lied who clearly had no judgement having proposed David Bannerman as leader we now find not just on the NEC but defacto Treasurer.

One wonders who will be added to the list of dishonest, irrelevant yes men and liars this time!
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#0581* – ex UKIP MEP Nikki SINCLAIRE & Trevor COLMAN on their Feet!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/07/2011

#0581* – ex UKIP MEP Nikki SINCLAIRE & Trevor COLMAN on their Feet!

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~ex UKIP MEP Nikki SINCLAIRE Hard at work for her Constituents & the electorate!

& Trevor COLMAN MEP wasting his time distracted by UKIP internal squabbling!!

Well as Trevor Colman may make his case it is but a foolish EU engineered distraction UKIP’s failed leadership was suckered by in greed!

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looking through the video record I must say I found it quite impressive to note that without the membership of a group, which has always been portrayed as the only route to speaking time in The EU, Nikki Sinclaire a short time ago during this Strasbourg  week has been posted up so many times by the EU on video!

I gather on one day alone she made 6 speeches in the EU Parliament in support of her constituents and her electorates desire to Leave-The-EU.

 

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I also note that Trevor Colman has made a very good video which I put on the internet some time ago at: http://paneuparty.blogspot.com/2011/07/case-for-no-video-trevor-colman-mep-06.html

When you have finished watching Trevor Colman’s video may I suggest you read the arguments both for and against membership of a Pan EU Political Party designed to bribe Politicians with public money (they come cheap, a printer or two & some well fabricated half baked lies from those working for The EU like Mick McGough).

You will find the EU’s own documents admitting the aim of PEPPs is towards further integration and making it very clear that PEPP money CAN NOT BE SPENT on National or Party aims beyond promoting The EU.

PEPP money CAN NOT BE SPENT on Party Elections or patriotic Referendums!

It is interesting that at this time UKIP has been sidetracked into yet another internal debacle due to clear lack of ethics, morality or leadership.

It is often said that 80% of the energy dissipated by politicians is used seeking ways to get re-elected – How true that is of Farage’s UKIP, where it is clear to the outsider far more energy is put into attacking members, supporters and elected members including MEPs who seek to attack our membership of The EU untramelled with the gutter trash gathered around the failed leadership to provide a dung heap from which the only permissible rooster may crow a backdrop of incompetence to make the weak and failed leader shine!

It seems all too clear that the further the distance from the so called leadership of UKIP the more its supporters get done whilst the core seeking their own enrichment clearly do very little to seek the right to Leave-the-EU.

At least there are now some honest MEPs who have broken away from the corrupt central leadership, its racism, self serving and self enriching squabbling, its childish stunts its membership of extremist groups etc. etc.

If only UKIP’s so called leadership had or could establish gravitas not cheeky chappy chicken suits and demeaning insults. If only they put as much effort into doing their job and spreading the word as they do in attacking and abusing supporters, members and MEPs they have failed to convince, failed to drag into their gutter and failed to silence!

Had UKIP’s failed leadership shown any signs of leadership they would not now be engaged in trying to stave off High Court Action, obtain money from The EU to pay their self inflicted legal bills, be engaged in a divisive & time consuming argument trying to sell the members on betrayal of Britain in return for money within a PEPP.

In 18 years where is the Exit & Survival strategy? Where is the Training? Where is the organisational structure? Where is the strategy? Where is the tactics? Where is are the briefing papers? Where is the Plan? Where is the cohesion? Where is the nurturing of supporters? Where is, in fact what is the vision?

There isn’t even an intelligent, intelligible promotion structure, nor training of speakers – not even a news letter structure.

Even more catastrophic is the fact that there is no funding structure 2 Bookies and a demol;oition Millionaire in 10 years is NOT a funding structure – it is a crass incompetence endlessly putting the party at the whim of a single individual.

If this is the leadership idea of saving Britain then I submit it is time for a Palace coupe as clearly the leadership has been an abysmal amateur shambols!
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#0578* – Mick McGOUGH Drags UKIP Name In The gutter AGAIN

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 02/07/2011

#0578* – Mick McGOUGH Drags UKIP Name In The gutter AGAIN

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03-Jul-2011 13:15hrs ADDITION:

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~Mick McGOUGH Drags UKIP Name In The gutter AGAIN!

It is noted that he lived down to prediction making yet further of a fool of himself and as a UKIP NEC member further demeaning UKIP!

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minded that Mick McGough is one of the leadership parasites of UKIP who have so seriously damaged UKIP and its credibility with their self serving greed, lies, bullying and general dishonesty – You will of course be aware that this cheat and liar is a member of UKIP’s risible and rigged NEC!

For a measure of the odious Mick McGough one need only note the grubby little avatar he has childishly chosen for himself as it is perceived to be a colleague on The NEC of UKIP, Lisa Duffy The Mare of Ramsay Town Council!

Indeed it may well be as she seems to have a predeliction for lateral stripes

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John aka Lesley, is I believe , closely aligned to the Tim.Nemesis,Junius and GLW anti UKIP AXIS.Ex UKIP,ex ukfirst,the part time librarian seemed set on a voluntary career in local community radio.Perhaps he is moving to greater things.

The extent that the odious old man is willing to deceive members and others let us have a look at his squalid little comment here as posted on a public forum:

John aka Lesley,

Indeed John West’s name in full is John Lesley West and not aka Lesley. No more than Mick McGough‘s name is aka Jackoff just because his birth certificate shows him to have a middle name!

is I believe ,

Well we all know what Mick McGough claims to ‘believe’ and the truth are frequently incompatible – recently he was odrered to correct the lies he had put on You Tube in a leadership inspired attempt to mislead members. Not the first time he has lied and set out to deceive members!

closely aligned to the Tim.Nemesis,Junius

Please be advised John West IS NOT closely aligned to any of these 3.

and GLW

Yes I quite frequently speak with John West and was well aware of the lies about him spread by UKIP leadership and their parasites, Mick McGough included.

anti UKIP AXIS.

Please show any single example where I have displayed an anti UKIP stance on any single solitary item – also be so good as to show where like Mick McGough I have EVER lied on any matter of any sort with any intent or to deceive UNLICKE Mick McGough.

Please show where I have EVER formed an ‘axis’ with anyone on any issue – It can be shown that I have NEVER colluded with anyone in any manner that could be described as ‘anti UKIP’ nor have I ever been materially paid for my efforts in opposition to membership of The EU which are well documented over many years.

Ex UKIP,

I am NOT a member of UKIP nor have I ever been – more in the tissue of lies Mick McGough and other parasites in UKIP seek to promote.

ex ukfirst,

I am NOT a member of UKFirst nor have I ever been – yet more in the tissue of lies Mick McGough and other parasites in UKIP seek to promote. 

the part time librarian

I understand that for a brief period John West was, since he is a qualified librarian and an author of several books on diverse subjects, he held a position as a librarian and due to mismanagement of the economy by bean counters during the cut backs was working part time as a librarian until about a year ago.

Mocking qualified individuals who have struggled to maintain full time occupation does so demean a political aspirant and UKIP NEC member.

seemed set on a voluntary career in local community radio.

I believe you are wrong on this point too – You will note he has resigned his job having learned that which he needed but continues to run a rather harder slicker music slot later in the day for the time being.

Perhaps he is moving to greater things.

I understand the TV work he is doing is proving both interesting and pays and having been head hunted from ICR he now has several salaried options.

Well done and good luck to John Lesley West who finding his qualifications unable to sustain employment has sought out and gained further qualifications to broaden the scope for employment. Would that the parasites in UKIP would do likewise so that the sordid morass could be cleaned up and made fit for purpose with competent leadership and the removal of liars and cheats like Mick McGough who so determinedly seek to deceive the members for their own gain.

I suggest no one waits for this vile excrecence to apologise for his serial dishonesty and corruption as he is morally of the disposition he will try to pass off his lies and dishonesty which so demeans UKIP as ‘humour’ – he truelly is that stupid and that ignorant – so very much in keeping with a number of the low lifes and nere do wells in UKIP’s failed leadership and amongst its parasites and sycophants.

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Hi,

as predicted this is the response of the childish and self serving Mick McGough and to note he is responding as a UKIP NEC Member and one of the parasites in UKIP’s leadership team it is imposible to claim such a childish response does anything but yet again harm UKIP posted on a public UKIP controlled Forum!

Genuine UKIP supporters like myself cringe at such crass behaviour contributing NOTHING but a childish self importance from this proven and undisputed liar and cheat:

This thread seems,as was intended, to have upset poor old Greg Afeectation-Whatshefor.In yet another of his bipolar rants he maintains that his anti-UKIP axis doesn’t exist and is concerned about my avatar.Perhaps the Dagenham cleavage (builder’s bum) reminds him of home.Strange isn’t it that someone who claims to be Oxbridge educated should have such appalling spelling and an inability to spellcheck.

Anyway the deep pocketed net is closing in on him and those he’s groomed.

To watch this idiotic little inadequate making a fool of himself and demeaning UKIP CLICK HERE and follow the thread.

I note he was unable to refute a single one of his lies and fantasies that so show the calliber of this failed bean counter – a sad spectacle but clearly damaging to UKIP and its many honest supporters.

Consider the fool – Firstly he is a UKIP NEC member and however he presents himself is how UKIP’s NEC is portrayed.

Why would his tasteless avatar remind me of anything? Other than the tasteless and childish behaviour of a UKIP NEC member who is a proven liar currently seeking to dupe the party with spin and dishonesty about PEPPs – as proven.

Never have I claimed to be Oxbridge educated beyond having been first a dayboy and then from about 7.1/2 a boarder at Kings Cambridge prior to going to Clifton and after school into The Army and then Sandhurst. Yep my spelling is apaulling as is my typing – so what? If the foolish little man thinks I waste time re-reading what I have written he is woefully mistaken.

May I the silly little man, with regard to spelling, it is not very bright to make petty criticisms and then yourself make spelling mistakes!

The foolish little liar shows his level of debate as a UKIP NEC member in other threads mocking the return of my cancer which I have had on a more or less continuous basis for about 13 years and now leaping to medical invention of ‘bipolar disorder’ – should UKIP be represented by this liar in this manner, accurately as it represents the bullying abuse and foul languaged belligerence of many a UKIP NEC meeting in the past.

You will notice that not a single solitary FACT of consequence that I have led regarding UKIP as a supporter of its core stated principle of Leave-The-EU has EVER been shown to be untrue – Not a single solitary comment or opinion I have EVER made in seeking to clean-up UKIP to try to make it fit for purpose as a party informed individuals could ethically vote for has EVER been shown to be deliberately misleading or wrong.

Is it any wonder UKIP has made so little progress in domestic politics in 18 years with the caliber of representation such as Mick McGough, Douglas Denny, David Bannerman MEP, Peter Reeve, Derek Clark MEP, Annabelle Fuller, Marta Andreasen MEP, Mark Croucher,Stuart Agnew MEP, Gawain Towler, Hugh Williams etc. all self serving proven liars and cheats?

Little wonder UKIP Leadership has put in place not a single reliable backer of stature and incredibly no financial team and now their latest ‘mark’ would seem to be having one of his well rehearsed ‘Crisis of Confidence’.

It is noted he insisted on being Treasurer to protect his personal interests yet reneged on the duty of treasurer to present morally valid accounts stating ‘he is not interested in any corruption of the accounts prior to his term nor in anything other than the details produced in the accounts he presents’ he then surrenders the book keeping to another liar and cheat Hugh Williams!!

The behaviour of UKIP’s leadership would make an excellent plot for a true story by Michael Dobbs! UKIP is not without its Francis Urquart wannabees nor those who seemingly venerate Thomas Goodfellowe MP for sleaze!
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#0577* – Prostituting UKIP for a Printer!!

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#0577* – Prostituting UKIP for a Printer!!

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~Prostituting UKIP for a Printer!!

As many UKIP Supporters like myself will have noted – A main example of why UKIP should sell out to The EU & Help Them form Pan EU Political Parties has been the fact that Godfrey Bloom joined one and bought a printer!

Personally my principles are not for sale and never have been!

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 01-Jul-2011 – Prostituting UKIP for a Printer!!

Hi,

it was quite funny to see one of the UKIP Parasites funded by The Party exposing the odious bean counter and serial liar Mick McGOUGH‘s best selling line as a ‘red Herring’ – Now we all know McGough’s ethics stink and his understanding of duty and probity are more than a little ‘Fishy’ but to have a Farage appointee point out the man is a fool amuses me.


What little Jonathan Arnott forgets to remind people is that the lies Mick McGough deliberately told on his squalid little video showed how willing he was to lie and be emotive when bereft of facts to support him.



This is in keeping with McGough as he has a track record of lies and setting out to deceive his coleagues and UKIP members which has been proven.


He has the gutter manners, temperament and ethics of the very worst of Essex stereotypes! Judging by his actions in other areas I believe we can safely believe that he would lie and conive to sell his grandmother if he could gain from it.

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The printer is a BAD example for the YES campaign to use because it’s a complete red herring.

Our MEPs get about 4,000 euros a month office allowance each, which can be spent on things like risographs anyway.

The North West region has two risographs but no PEP; there’s no shortage of money available for MEPs to buy office equipment.  A few other regions have a risograph, and probably paid for by EU money through the office allowance.

The YES campaign should focus on things that we can’t/aren’t doing without it.

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#0576* – PEPP Campaigner for UKIP Members Mike SMITH

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#0576* – PEPP Campaigner for UKIP Members Mike SMITH

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I see Mike Smith who was recently announced as having stood down as the long term Branch Chairman of UKIP Gloucester is struggling manfully to keep up to speed on the latest leaks from the sieve and machinations by the corrupt in UKIP to ajust AFTER THE DEBATE the question for the internal referendum most likely to obtain the vote the leadership would seem to favour for their utterly corrupt leadership team and its parasites.


Dishonest and corrupt individuals like Stuart Agnew NFU MEP, Mick McGough and their ilk – proven repeatedly to be liars and cheats.

Astonishingly this sort of dishonest chicanery and corrupt undemocratic behaviour is not brought to us by The EU this time but by their long term trough dwellers UKIP – which is even more concerning as they are the party that advocates as part of a style of government that there are regular referendums for the voters – yet when they hold one it is as corrupt as The EU and almost as corrupt as The Devolution of Wales referendum where the rules were changed 7 times on the day of the count and ballot boxes were stuffed with Yes votes whilst NO votes were destroyed or removed – This is devolving into the same level of dishonesty and farce that has come with UKIP leadership elections on a regular basis! 

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The situation regarding the wording of the Question to be put to members has descended into absolute farce.
I was told last Monday by a very reliable source that the current version of the Question is;

“Should the UK Independence Party’s MEPs join a European Political Party as defined under Regulation EC2003/2004?”

This had not been announced officially because some members of the NEC had not been contacted. 
Consequently, the debates at Birmingham and Liverpool went ahead based on the original version of the Question as printed in Independence.

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#0573* – Birmingham UKIP PEPP YES/NO DEBATE

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#0573* – Birmingham UKIP PEPP YES/NO DEBATE

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Already the EU seeks to remove the word ‘Political’ from the abbreviation to hide the integrationist aspect and inexorable efforts to eradicate National Politics – This is just another step in the destruction of liberty and denial of Democracy which The EU is seeking to impose by bribing OUR-ENEMY-WITHIN to adopt, with OUR money.


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For a further report on this meeting see: CLICK HERE

Nigel Farage’s Official salaried boot licker Michael Greaves stated:
‘UKIP Members are to stupid & naive to understand the issues’
no doubt mimicking His Master’s voice he continued:
‘he knows understands the issues because he works in the EU parliament.

It seems he has learned little and is very naive regarding communication skills as his presentation, like the liar & low life scum Mick McGough‘s was unconvincing, demeaning and dragged UKIP into the corrupt gutter they clearly share.

UKIP: Bloody nose for Yes Team and Farage at West Midland PEP Debate!

Farage’s plans for UKIP to join a PEP pan European party are being dealt severe blows in regional debates across the country where, so far, the reaction has been overwhelmingly a 90% No!We have been told, this was last night expressed more in the West Midlands than anywhere else – a region devastated by UKIPs national infighting and the de-selection of popular local MEP Nikki Sinclaire.

A packed room, we are told of 50-60 people heard from both sides. The ‘No’ campaign was represented by Trevor Colman MEP and Mike Smith. Mick ‘Porky Pie’ Mick ‘Porky Pie’ McGough and Michael ‘who ate all the pies’ Greaves represented the ‘Yes’ campaign.

The ‘NO’ side stole the show arguing on principle with passion (notably Mike Smith), that UKIP should stay true to its withdrawalist principles. This was greeted with constant cheering and clapping from the floor.

The ‘Yes’ argument, as always, centred around money, money and more money!

Unfortunately for Farage and his sycophants this wasn’t lost on the audience! McGough and Greaves were clearly out of favour with the audience. Indeed, they only received a polite clap from two or three people after delevering their ten minute pitch. We also note that their replies to questions from the audience were met in silence, in complete contrast to the response to the no side.

Michael Greaves even felt it necessary to claim angrily to a question from a member that they were too naive to understand the issues and that he knew best as he worked in the European Parliament! This drew hisses and shouts from the audience.

Michael then attacked were made on those MEPs that had left the EFD. This resulted in a passionate reply from Mike Smith.

We are pleased to note that this drew the biggest applause of the evening in responding. He stated that Trevor, Nikki and Mike were right to leave the EFD and that they had done so because of their principles. He also expressed anger that they were constantly being attacked in certain quarters for doing what every UKIP MEP should have done – leave the EFD! He then pointed out that they were all actively campaigning for the Euro-realist cause by producing literature, leaflets, websites and petitions.

How sad that Steve Crowther (chair) tried to silence Mike. And this was despite having just allowed criticism from the other side. You really couldn’t make it up!

We suspect the West Midlands might hold the biggest opposition to the EFD than anywhere else!

The yes side continued to lie in suggesting that the party would receive funding from 13 MEPs (as stated in March’s edition of Independence News). This was clearly a deliberate attempt to mislead UKIPPERS as only a maximum of 9 UKIP MEPs would join a PEP.

Let us not forget that Mike, Nikki and Trevor are adamant that they are not going join a PEP. And have they forgotten that Bannerman has now left UKIP for the Tories? Quoting figure after figure based on 13 MEPs (promising a third more funding than they would be entitled to) is yet again another example of the level of dishonesty that we have come to expect from the ‘Yes’ campaign!

We will leave you with some words from Farage – before he went native – which are now being repeated at regional meetings across the country.

‘’We are opposed on principle to the idea of state funding of political parties, either nationally or at a European level. It is not an appropriate use of tax-payers’ money”.


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#0572* – Noted That Lies of Mick McGough are Officially Edited

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#0572* – Noted That Lies of Mick McGough are Officially Edited

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I note the lies and distortions presented so dishonestly by The Essex Oik and habitual liar Mick McGough have had to be edited out of the dishonest pro PEPP video seeking to con UKIP members into supporting his lies.

Nothing new there then!

Interestingly the PEPP presentation debate in Birmingham on Monday night led to a very clear rejection of Mick McGough’s sales patter but it was almost amusing for the audience of around 60 to have the smug, arrogant and oleagenous Michael Greaves there trying and in his obvious incompetence almost succeeding to make even Mick McGough seem intelligent!

As Mick McGough has been proven to be a liar, a low life and completely untrustworthy in that not content with his childish attempts at bullying he has even leaked UKIP confidential material to try to seem important.

The extent of his sycophancy is understandable as his insecurity would lead him to cross the country for the opening of an envelope if he thought he would have an opportunmity to bore people with his mumbled and self congratulatory behaviour.

What astonishes me is that otherwise well meaning if somewhat meaningless organisations like The CIB are prepared to be associated with this egregious piece of filth.

Yet more astonishing is that The Freedom Association, debased as it is since the death of Norris McWhirter its founder, has felt it apposite to surrender its accounts to a treasurer with a track record of dishonesty, corruption and lies.

It is however good to see that Steve Allison did manage to force the pro PEPP group of scoundrels to remove the lies and distortions by Mick McGough from their video presentation.

It was interesting to note having blown any chance of being taken seriously ever again little John Ison sat furtively considering whose boots to lick next but with no opinion of his own – perhaps the police have finally got around to feeling his collar over the thefts from Nikki Sinclaire and the false accusations he made based it seems on ‘ajustments’ he deliberately made to the record and material he boasted of having stolen – No wonder little Guy Basnett would not publish his fantasies and the Times used allegedly more than any other word portraying Ison as untrustworthy – how right they were!

It is a tragedy that after 18 years in the political field that UKIP are unable to field anyone of probity and charisma to sell its views even internally manfully as Mike Smith tried, particularly in defence of the drab and tedious Trevor Colman – however much Mick Nattrass yodelled his support from the back 😉

I think it is fair to say that UKIP would, without the efforts of Mike Nattrass’ firplace chappy Derek Bennett, have probably not managed to raise an audience of more than a dozen or two but Derek’s efforts did up the crowd somewhat.

Interestingly in direct opposition to Stuart Agnew who has openly stated he will consider joining a PEPP for his direct gain (no doubt under instruction from his masters The NFU) he has stated regardless of the vote he will join a PEPP (See Tavistock meeting video on CLICK HERE)

Under direct questioning when asked if the vote had any meaning and was it binding on the MEPs/Party as a closing question many will remember Steve Crowthers reply in which he gave assurances that it would be binding.

This may well prove to be Steve Crowther’s swan song having laid his neck on the block and the details which came to me this afternoon are now published at CLICK HERE

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#0560* – Mick McGOUGH’s Dishonesty Called To Account by UKIP!

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#0560* – Mick McGOUGH’s Dishonesty Called To Account by UKIP!

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As the returning officer for the internal consultation process I can confirm I have received a complaint about this video. I have therefore sent the following e-mail

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Stuart,

I have received a complaint regarding the video

). Specifically the complaint refers to the claim by Mick McGough that he “has in his hand a cheque for £300,000 payable to UKIP”

The No campaign claim the money CANNOT be paid to UKIP.

Can you please confirm that the claim that the money can be paid from a PEP direct to UKIP is accurate.

If you cannot confirm this is a factually accurate statement then I must ask for the video to be withdrawn until a suitable correction of fact can be made.

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#0559* – SEEMS ONLY LIES & LIARS SUPPORT PEPPs

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#0559* – SEEMS ONLY LIES & LIARS SUPPORT PEPPs

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Do be minded of the quotation of Thomas Jefferson:

Honesty is the first chapter of the book of wisdom”.  

I do see it as a sad reflection on UKIP that it has not only brought together this collection of rather unpleasant people but that it permits egregious filth like Mick McGough or for that matter Stuart Agnew to speak on their behalf – why do they so consistently shoot themselves in both feet?

Listen to the manner and demeanour of Mick McGough and would you in all honesty be willing to buy a used car off this Essex oik with a track record of lies, corruption, dishonesty and gutter behaviour that is well known to the informed members. An odious little man who would cross the country for the opening of an envelope if there was something ANYTHING in it for him.

You will remember this is the odious little bean counter who could not even be trusted to keep Gerard Batten MEP’s internal correspondence in confidence when he thought he could make personal gain from it. This is the sordid little man who seers with consistency at those who seek transparency and probity within UKIP.

You may remember that when Andrew Smith was shown to have lied and cheated embroiling UKIP in lies to The Electoral Commission that resulted in a resounding Guilty verdict against UKIP it was Mick McGough boot licking his way to personal gain in his defence.

It was this same little creep who was telling lies about John West being involved with The BNP and who can not even understand that I might seek honesty and integrity within UKIP because I believe in honesty and integrity and this desperate little failure of mankind endlessly lies and sneers trying to impugn my motivation and project the same lack of morality he personally displays, where everything it seems must be for money or personal gain – Oh how his behaviour shows him  for the slime he is!

Mick McGough would be well served to heed Benjamin Franklin who said:

“He that is of the opinion money will do everything may  well be suspected of doing everything for money”.

That a party has various low lifes and noxious individuals is not really surprising but that a party espousing British values and patriotism gathers so many liars and cheats like McGough, Agnew, Williams, Curtis, Denny and the like together as its NEC and leadership beggars belief and does nothing but bring shame on these United Kingdoms.

Yes it is understandable a whinning oik like McGough would prostitute himself for money and personal gain but that he not only is clearly willing to prostitute UKIP but to act as its pimp may depress many but that UKIP itself would sink to such a level as to employ such a proven dishonest man to make a case speaks volumes of why until UKIP is Cleaned-up there just is no case that can be made for anyone ethical voting for the Party – they are clearly unfit for purpose.

Even more worrying is that Mick McGough has willingly made a video based on his own lies and his own concepts of marketing, where Money is clearly his only God, speaks volumes of Mick McGough’s utter lack of principles but that no one corrected his dishonesty on an official UKIP video is a staggering reflection on the Party’s lack of integrity and self serving greed of its leadership.

“He who would trade liberty for some temporary security of income, deserves neither liberty  nor security”.

Only someone of the lack of moral fiber that Mick McGough consistently shows us would be willing to prostitute principle for income from The EU – There is absolutely no position that makes whores of ones’ daughters or ones’ friends based upon a claim that to do so denies others willing to prostitute themselves from income!

To be a little more specific it is morally repugnant thaty UKIP can have sanctioned the pack of lies being peddled on this video – let us consider just one, which has no bearing on the emotive ‘con’ sales technique of these grubby amateurs:
We see the odious Mick McGough holding aloft a mock cheque for £350K claiming it to be made out to UKIP – THIS IS A LIE, do read the regulations under no circumstances can this happen granting UKIP free use of EU money for Party Political gain.

That the duplicitous worm then goes on to talk of howmuch an election cost UKIP is dishonest in conflating the two values as the money used to bribe Politicians to prostitute their Parties and undermine National Political Parties is NOT available for Party usage!

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Perhaps UKIP should read them rather than lie to their members!

I was interested to note on The UKIP Forum that even some of the members have seen through the scam put forward in this squalid little video.

It is also worth wondering, since we know he is dishonest corrupt and untrustworthy, whether Stuart Agnew is acting for his masters at The NFU or his UKIP electorate as he tries to mislead people on this issue.

Either way we do have it on very clear record that Stuart Agnew couldn’t give a damn for democratic principles and has openly stated that whatever the vote outcome he will be joining a PEPP for his personal gain!

We also note that it was abundantly clear that at The South East debate on the issue that as in The South West the audience were very clearly against the sell out to assist The EU implement its aims.

I gather the results are so resoundingly opposing UKIP aiding The EU and joining yet another sordid alliance of others as with the utterly unprincipled extremists of The EFD as at the moment that learning from their long sujourn of very little benefit to Britain in the bars and bordellos of Brussels and Strasbourgh the UKIP leadership and its parasites have learned how to Kontrol any danger of democratic principle and it is now clear that realising they would lose the debate they are NOE changing the question!

As with France, Holland and Ireland when the vote was NO – EU methods were brought to play and they were forced to vote again on a slightly nuanced question! As with The EU so also with UKIP leadership as you will remember that UKIP resoundingly voted NO to this duplicitous sell out at UKIP’s own conference so since that was clearly not the result the leadership wanted for their self enrichment scams UKIP like the Irish, Dutch and French are being forced to vote again!

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