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#0690* – UKIP MEP Wee Willie Dartmouth Courts The BNP!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 10/11/2011

 #0690* – UKIP MEP Wee Willie Dartmouth Courts The BNP!
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This confusion and split in UKIP leadership speaks volumes of just how unfit for purpose the party has become without a competent leader of any caliber!!

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it is almost unbelievable just what a mess UKIP leadership are in – unless I am being set up by two completely unrelated sources that are usually very reliable!

Had it not been confirmed to me I can assure you I would NOT have published as I find it hard to believe even UKIP can be so crass and unprofessional!

I gather that whilst Farage is abusing his family friends and has used them to make a pantomime of the UKIP NEC for their past allegiances with The BNP.

We have festering idiots on various forums like Independent UKIP and the implausibly contrived Arthur Fonzanelli and the odious and particularly stupid Mick McGough making much of chucking BNP members out of UKIP – Meanwhile Farage had meetings with emissaries of the BNP in the past

When it is stated he was making overtures to The BNP.

Just as he employed the extremist Mark Croucher who could be relied on to construct and contort any lie for personal gain it seems, much as fantasists like Douglas Denny and Mick McGough or even Derek Clark, Graham Booth, Tom Wise, Jeffrey Titford & Nigel Farage  who haves been all to ready to lie, cheat or steal from the public purse as The OLAF reports have shown!

You will recal according to the public claims of Stuart Agnew he and David Bannerman were stealing money fraudulently as did Derek Clark & Graham Booth before them to fund political party staff – in the case of Agnew’s boast of dishonesty and corruption it was to fund The Regional Organiser for UKIP Eastern Region.

This case has led to an OLAF enquiry which at last update from OLAF was ongoing.

Interestingly Peter Reeve was recently shown to be a contributor to a Tory publication recently published by his chum David Bannerman.

This of course has led to a row in UKIP’s Eastern Region as even Gollom became involved and seems to have set aside his personal crusade against cats to make much of the issue – he of course has never forgiven Peter Reeve for having failed to defend his corruption of the Eastern Region MEP selection process and is all too well aware that the odious pair Reeve and his doxy Lisa Duffy the mare of Ramsay are angling and wangling in every way to establish themselves as leading candidates for MEP in 2014 – Won’t UKIP’s Essex idiot be miffed cosequentially failing to see just how much hard he has personally done UKIP with his vile behaviour! We note Gulleford already is more than a little miffed!

It is amusing that Gollom can not see the hypocrisy of making much of Reeve providing work for The Tories, when he himself has for many years tried to ride two horses as an employee in Chelmsford (and before) for UKIP whilst serving his original master the Labour Peer David Stoddart, but then again Gulleyford never was very bright or particularly trustworthy!

Returning to The BNP issue: You may also remember that Farage PERSONALLY approved Alan Hardy‘s membership of UKIP after he had briefly been in The BNP – only for UKIP to then lose a Court case and their ridiculous appeal which would seem to have cost UKIP almost as much as Derek Clark had ripped off the public purse for!
Now we have the idiotic Wee Willie Dartmouth apparently toddling off to give a speech to The BNP members at Star Tavern in Belgravia this evening at 19:00hrs.
Keeping up with the duplicitous vagaries of UKIP leadership is quite a task it seems! They so lack professionalism, an understanding of ethics or any integrity as to be unfit for purpose – However we may be seeing a re-allignment to ajust UKIP policy in The UK to occupy the racist cause with the antics of Gerard Batten their interest in Immigration Policy by Petition but clear lack of support for The Petition to hold a Referendum on In/Out of The EU via Parliamentary debate.
A re-allignment to accord with their vile extremist chums in the racist, anti Jewish, violent and anti homosexual EU Revisionist Group The EFD in The EU.
The BNP have many overlapping policies with both The EFD in general and UKIP in specific!
So either Wee Willie is having another of his aberative tantrums or has been set up by Farage as an emisary for UKIP who can be disowned and abused in future.
Let us see!

I note Junius has also commented on the unprincipled nature of this split in UKIP:

UKIP MEP to address BNP meeting

We are intrigued to learn that William Dartmouth will be addressing a meeting of a BNP front group at the Star Tavern,  6 Belgrave Mews West, London, SW1X 8HT (10 Nov). The nearest tube station is Knightsbridge. The meeting will get underway at 7pm.

IT WOULD SEEM I WAS CORRECT

I issued a caveat at the start of this article stating that I MAY be being set up with this information – I have checked back and it was NOT the intention of my sources but it seems there was a widespread distribution of information that eventually came my way that the faintly idiotic Wee Willie Dartmouth – as one of Farage’s placed muppets, had been approached to speak with the dangerously unreliable Swinton Circle.

I say dangerously unreliable in that they have close links to the Racist groups and an indifference to criminality as they were happy to give both Lindsay Jenkins and Tom Wise platforms whilst they were facing criminal charges when it was abundantly clear they had colluded in defrauding the public purse and the fact that Tom Wise was a personal beneficiary of this fraud led to his pleading guilty and receiving a 2 Year Prison sentence.

The Swinton Circle were well aware of the nature of the criminality yet still provided support and a platform!

It would SEEM Wee Willie SEEMS to share my opinion of The Swinton Circle and declined their invitation to speak.

I apologise if I inconvenienced anyone, and am relieved that I included the caveat – sorry, my various informants were wrong but I do not believe they acted with any malice.

I was far from surprised to recieve a couple of phone calls that believed that the talk was called off after first Junius published the details and then I published independently, subsequently reading The Junius article I included it above. The number of people who seem to have heard about the talk and the rapidity of the attempted cover-up leads me to believe there may well be truth in the fact that the talk was merely ‘pulled’ at the last moment due to Junius and I both publishing the details we had independently heard.

I gather Junius’ source was within The EU – mine were originally from Britain and a later confirmation was from The EU. I wonder who jumped in to speak at the last minute – though it is of little interest as few take notice of The Swinton Circle’s little meetings.

I did not remember The Star Tavern from the 1960s when I used to visit occasionally though more often a client of The Plumbers:

The Star Tavern, 6 Belgrave Mews West, SW1 (020 7235 3019). Popular with boozy high-society types and underworld crims during the Sixties. Christine Keeler worked here, Elizabeth Taylor drank here and Bruce Reynolds planned the Great Train Robbery in the upstairs drinking room. Allegedly.

Plumbers Arms,14 Lower Belgrave Street, SW1 (020 7730 4067). On 7 November 1974, a hysterical woman in a blood-spattered nightie entered the Plumber’s Arms and announced that her husband had just murdered her nanny. Hubby Lord Lucan hasn’t been seen drinking there since.

A subsequent phone call told me that the implausibly named Arthur Fonzanellie was as so often making a fool of himself on Butcher’s squalid UKIP contolled little forum.

Mr Lance-Watkins has apologised for stating that Lord Dartmouth was to speak at this event. A rare apology from that gentleman but an apology nonetheless. I would imagine that the creator of this topic and the Junius editor(s) were hoodwinked by Mr Lance-Watkins and ‘ran’ with this entirely false story. I hope those who have helped spread this falsehood will follow the lead of Mr Lance-Watkins and offer apologies to its readers and to Lord Dartmouth. However, I hold little hope…

Clearly whoever writes this drivel has little command of facts despite the oleagenous and pathetic sneering style.

Lets look at what the fool has to say:

Mr Lance-Watkins has apologised for stating that Lord Dartmouth was to speak at this event.

No – I have apologised to anyone I had inconvenienced with the information I had been given and had published with a caveat.

It is interesting that common belief ‘seems’ to indicate Wee Willie cancelled at the last minute, due to the publicity.

A rare apology from that gentleman but an apology nonetheless.

I ALWAYS apologise when I find out I am wrong – Little wonder this is a rare event as I do try very hard to get ALL the facts right or quite legitimately UKIP or those I had been wrong about could show I had deliberately and dishonestly defamed them which of course is NOT nor has it EVER been the case.

Fortunately I have NEVER been materially wrong in ANY of my many 1,000s of postings or my Blogs would not be so regularly followed – of course ANYONE finding an error PLEASE contact me amnd I will check it out and one day I may have to apologise for an error of cosequence, try as I might to ensure accuracy ethically.

I would imagine that the creator of this topic and the Junius editor(s) were hoodwinked by Mr Lance-Watkins and ‘ran’ with this entirely false story.

Clearly a stupid comment as shown by the facts.

I hope those who have helped spread this falsehood will follow the lead of Mr Lance-Watkins and offer apologies to its readers and to Lord Dartmouth.

I wonder if the idiotic Arthur Fonzanellie can identify a single error of consequence on ANY of my blogs over the last 15 years or so?

However, I hold little hope…

I am relieved to say it is very unlikely I will need to apologise as Fonzanellie has shown – My postings are as far as I can ascertain 100% accurate when posted – it seems that even the one in question may well have been also and its publication seemingly led to a change of plan but it will of course be denied! Such is the consistency of dishonesty of UKIP leadership and their parasites.

3rd. ADDITION of INFORMATION ADDED 13-Nov-2011 
We note the parasites of UKIP:

Those who bring UKIP and its leadership into such disrepute both in their own name and sheltering their cowardice behind fake identities such as Mick McGough, Independent UKIP, Skeptic, Arthur Fonzanellie, Annabelle Fuller, Mark Croucher, Douglas Denny and their sordid ilk with their lies, distortions, fantasies and personnas screeching like the witches of bedlam at the incredible deliberate lies in other areas or reporting are conspicuous by their cowardly absence as with:
http://tinyurl.com/csxkzf3
 With the sort of behaviour of its vile parasites and its extremist associates it is little wonder they fare so very badly in domestic politics where the domestic electorate may vote foolishly at times but rarely support those of the gutter and outright cowards as shown by the irrefutable fact that UKIP has consistently failed in domestic elections on a truelly spectacular basis over 20 years.

Considering the fact that UKIP lays claim to some of the most popular causes of the peoples of these United Kingdoms such as:
Leave-The-EU
Repatriate our democracy
Reinstate our borders
Restrict immigration
Restore our Sovereignty
Replace the political aspects of The EU
Reintroduce our legal system & its values
Remove the EUropean Human Rights Act
Renegotiate our trade position with the global market place
Re-evaluate the relationship between the various regions of the UK to Westminster

Yet despite this UKIP has only ever achieved less than 30 elected seats out of the 19,500 available in Governance of these United Kingdoms.

It would seem that the people have seen through the charade of UKIP and its self serving self enriching and squabbling leadership claque!

as for self determination – UKIP have failed after 20 years of expenditure and much carousing and gutter politics to either convince the electorate of their good intentions or to provide any kind of exit and survival strategy, vision or plan let alone strategy, organisational structure, professionalism or any kind of tactics – The electorate have noticed and in domestic politics have clearly ignored them as about as relevant as The BNP, The Greens  or The BFP.

At a time when the creepy Lib.Dims. are seemingly at an all time low UKIP has failed to come even close to ousting them in any single domestic seat at election whether general or by election.

The failure would seem to be largely due to total lack of OQ amongst its leadership in fact no Officer class whatever and populist as they may strive to be the public seek leadership from those they can respect – a quality astonishingly absent amongst the leadership of UKIP and its vile parasites mostly on the make and the take and willing to demean themselves in any manner just to achievbe their personal ambitions and gratification.
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#0686* – UKIP TRIES to deny Racism for years!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 03/11/2011

#0686* – UKIP TRIES to deny Racism for years!

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UKIP TRIES to deny Racism for years!
Racism & bullying is at the core of UKIP!
Not so much the BNP in Blazers but more a choice of The BNP on Zimmer frames or in Nappies!

Again & again they fall foul of employment laws, abuse laws and blatant racism or anti homosexual stances!

Whether they like it or not they are judged by their associates and behaviour!

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probably one of the greatest acts of folly on the part of UKIP so called leadership has been to link UKIP with racists, xenophobes, anti Jewish and violent anti homosexuals in Continental politics forming the damaging and repugnant Pan EU Political Party EFD Group

Be minded of UKIP’s track record of racism and that includes the obscene extremism of Christian evangelism and some of the Baptist cults and sects from House to the Satanic Mormon cults.

Some may remember the clear and undeniable activities of Tony Bennett with his vile and intolerant campaigning against Muslims – to be fair he was eventually removed from UKIP

Then there was Jeffrey Titford and his connection with extremists with Mike Nattrass prior to their days with UKIP.

Bloom’s praise of the killing of Green peace activists in New Zealand were ill considered & the Court decision against him and Farage were further damaging to UKIP’s credibility!

Next we saw UKIP’s puppet leader the idiotic Malcolm Lord Pearson and his anti Islamic extremism and dishonesty as featured and exposed by The News of The World!

Association with The Swinton Circle by Farage, Tom Wiseand others has done little to enhance UKIP credibility! Nor Farage’s efforts to negotiate with The BNP:

Now we have the dedicated fundamental extremism of Gerard Batten!

One has to wonder who on UKIP NECthought it was a good idea to have Batten colluding with Sam Solomon and not just consorting with but he has written the foreward to the odious and extreme:

A Proposed Charter of Muslim Understanding
By Sam Solomon
Foreword by Gerard Batten
UK Independence Party
Member of the European Parliament for London
1st Edition – December 2006
Revised Edition – April 2007

Seemingly distributed via Gerard Batten’s UKIP office and no doubt at the expense of UKIP Funds, which he  is entitled to. Funds that were allocated for the use of UKIP and to further the Leave-The-EU aims of UKIP!

One is forced to speculate as to whether Harold Batten was the printer and what that was billed out as

Whatever your superstitions or beliefs I can not believe that even UKIP is stupid enough to have endorsed Gerard Batten’s evil and divisive racism be that on colour, creed or views!

A Proposed Charter of Muslim Understanding
Affirmation


I, the undersigned, as an individual, or as an official representative
of an organisation, accept in principle the need to re-examine and
address the meaning and application of certain Islamic texts and
doctrines; and that the issues identified in the Proposed Charter of
Muslim Understanding represent the basis for further discussion of
these issues.
I affirm my belief in:
1. The equality of all human beings, before God and the law
2. Equal rights for women, in principle and practice
3. The rejection of coercion, intimidation and violence in the
name of religion
4. Religious freedom and rejection of the persecution of those
who convert from one faith to another
5. Tolerance of other religions, and their believers, and the
rejection of religious teachings that discriminate against
others on the basis of their religious beliefs.

Please detach and return to:
Proposed Charter of Muslim Understanding
P.O. Box 51542
London, SE1 3XS

One has to wonder who and what degree of malevolence was required for someone to believe this garbage has any place in British politics – You will note the fanciful assumption that religion is a plausible concept on which any sane individual could legislate!!

Can one rationally believe that ANY of this childish drivel has any part in a campaign to Leave-The-EU – Here is more nauseating clandestine material being published under cover by Gerard Batten it would seem – One must wonder who exactly he sees to be his master and surely even UKIP would not subscribe to this racist prejudice:


Gerard Batten MEP
CONFIDENTIAL
DRAFT
Dismantling Multiculturalism
Policy Discussion Document
10th February 2011
Multiculturalism has failed
Multiculturalism depends on the proposition that all cultures, cultural beliefs, customs and practices are equally valid. Mass immigration into many western countries for the last forty years or more has brought with it some cultures and cultural practices that are alien to western cultures and liberal, democratic political systems. Instead of taking a robust attitude against these alien practices western countries have mostly adopted an attitude of appeasement and cultural relativism. Western Governments have been terrified of criticising or standing up against these practices for fear of being branded ‘racist’ or ‘Islamaphobic’.
Most European and Western countries are multi-ethnic societies and is no reason why people of difference racial and ethnic origins cannot live together peacefully; but to do so requires emphasising those things we have in common rather than those things that separate us.  It requires that all citizens living in a given state have broadly the same allegiance, loyalty and belief in a common set of public and political institutions and the acceptance of one legal system. Multiculturalism does precisely the opposite: it creates different and competing groups within one public and political space and is a recipe for division and conflict.
Many European and Western countries have adopted a policy of state-sponsored multiculturalism, designed to preserve and enshrine the beliefs and cultural practices of migrants and to protect and advance them by law and public subsidy. The objective was that the policy of multiculturalism would help absorb and integrate vast waves of migrants from foreign lands. In that it has conspicuously failed – as now has been publicly attested by figures such as Trevor Philips Head of the Race Relations Commission, President Angela Merkel of Germany, President Sarkosy of France, and latterly Prime Minister David Cameron of the UK, to name just four.
However from the point of view of those groups that use multiculturalism to promote their own separate interests it has and is succeeding and they have a vested interest in seeing it continue.
Private Multiculturalism Good: Public Multiculturalism Bad.
A clear distinction must be drawn between private and public multiculturalism. The private practice of religious and cultural beliefs, customs and traditions should be precisely that – private. We can all enjoy the private practice of different cultures and beliefs and share them with our friends and neighbours. That is a good and positive thing that can help bring people together.
The public policy of state-sponsored multiculturalism is quite another thing and it has created an increasingly more fractured, divided, contentious and uneasy societies. It cannot go unsaid that the biggest beneficiaries of this public policy of multiculturalism are Islamic fundamentalist and extremists who use it to extend their own power and influence in order to bring about their long term goal of an Islamic or Islamic dominated state in each one of those countries where they settle. Multiculturalism also undermines those moderate Muslims who wish to embrace Western values but see power and influence being extended to their extremist co-religionists.
Islamic fundamentalism is the cuckoo in the Western multicultural nest. We can either address it now or be destroyed by it in the course of time.
Dismantling Multiculturalism
This short paper is not a detailed history, analysis and critique of multiculturalism and its failure. It is taken as a given that it has failed and has to be dismantled. The points below are suggested policies that could be adopted by political parties and governments of any political colour and in any country in the world that wishes to preserve and promote common western liberal democratic values. The points below are specifically aimed at Britain but can adapted as required.
Policy Suggestions
  1. Recognise that Christianity is the cultural heritage of Britain and affirm the secular nature of government and public institutions. This should be recognised by an exception for the Church of England as the historically established church but bishops should be removed from their positions in the House of Lords and the Monarch should lose the power (exercised through the Prime Minister) to appoint the Archbishop of Canterbury.
  1. A commitment to end the policy of state-sponsored and funded multiculturalism by local and national government.
  1. A commitment to promote a common public culture, expressed in a common language (excluding existing historic regional differences), one legal system and one set of political institutions – none other should be formally recognised by the state.
  1. There must be equal application of the law. There can be no separation of people based on religious practices in public places, e.g. in swimming pools and hospital chapels.
  1. There must be one language used in national and political institutions and publicly funded places (excluding historical differences such a Welsh in Wales or Gaelic in Scotland). In England only English must be displayed in public buildings such as local and national government offices, universities, colleges, schools, hospitals, clinics etc.
  1. Repeal the Act of Parliament that recognises Sharia law in some tribunals, (e.g. for family law, child custody, inheritance etc). Sharia law must be given no official recognition or legal status whatsoever.
  1. Repeal the Act (???) that gives official recognition to Islamic Banking. There must be no financial or banking regulations based on religious law.
  1. Repeal those Acts (???) which give recognition to polygamous marriage for tax or social security and benefits purposes. There must be no official or legal recognition of polygamous marriages.
  1. Stop all government funding to organisations that promote religious fundamentalist or extremist views, e.g. the Muslim Council of Britain, the Quilliam Foundation, the Union of Imams & Mosques in the UK and Ireland etc. Any organisation that requests public funding must be required to sign and actively abide by a Code of Conduct (see Appendix I).
  1. Social Security and benefits payments can only be claimed in English where the recipient has been living in the UK for 12 months or more. For those who have entered the UK and do not speak English subsidised English classes must be made available.
  1. No granting of planning permission to religious organisations that: do not abide by and actively practice a Code of Conduct (see Appendix I); are funded from outside the UK  unless they have a special dispensation from the Home Secretary, such dispensations should discretionary and will only granted where it can clearly be shown where the money originates from, and where it can be demonstrated that it is not from extremist sources, or is intended to promote religious fundamentalist or extremist views.
  1. Repeal the Religious Hatred Act (???). The promotion of hatred or violence against individuals or groups is catered for under the normal criminal law. No religious belief system or ideology may be protected from criticism by law.
  1. Ensure that the law on forced marriages and female genital mutilation is rigorously enforced.
  1. Religious schools should only be allowed where they can sign and show actively to abide by a Code of Conduct (see Appendix I). 
  1. Repeal the Act of Parliament that gives exception for ritual slaughter for religious reasons. These are outmoded and barbaric practices that have no place in the 21st century or n the light of humane animal welfare policies.
  1. Something on the funding of universities???
  1. Enact a law of face coverings in public places. (see Appendix II)
END
Appendix I
Code of Conduct
To be added as per existing ‘Affirmation’
Appendix II
Face Coverings Policy
To be added later a per existing ‘burka and face coverings policy’.
One must wonder what twisted mind outside of Nazi Germany would believe this acceptable or even moral – Herman Goerring would be proud of Gerard Batten’s efforts and many will remember Nigel Farage & Mark Croucher‘s collusion to exploit their BNP friends like Buster Motram who was a family friend of Nigel farage’s whom he had personally sponsored within UKIP as with his own Election Agent from The National Front!
Nigel Farage was set to not just orchestrate his own Crystal Nacht to seek to rid himself of his enemies (those who believed in probity and that ALL were answerable to the members and the rule of law) – Their own Reichstag Fire was in place and when triggered by Farage at an NEC meeting the low grad clowns on the NEC like puppets jumped through every hoop placed before them.

The result of this ‘Night of The Long Knives’ was the removal of Dr. Eric Edmond & Dr. David Abbott from the NEC despite their undeniable elected status. The removal of honest men made way for more sycophantic and dishonest puppets – the likes of the fantasist Douglas Denny, the odious and idiotic Mick McGough and others – now UKIP has the misfortune of the Tory reject and the image of sleaze that the risible Niel Hamilton brings as his main contribution to his own very personal ambitions!

Little wonder that Gerard Batten is in trouble with The Courts and facing an Industrial Tribunal with the expectation of some staggeringly bad publicity for UKIP that has absolutely NOTHING to do with the aim to Leave-The-EU. It seems that Gerard Batten may well find himself facing some of the best legal brains in the field of Human Rights and Race Relations, for more details CLICK HERE.

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#0671* – UKIP Demeaned by Its Leadership, its claque & its Alies

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/10/2011

#0671* – UKIP Demeaned by Its Leadership, its claque & its Alies

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I have ALWAYS questioned UKIP’s inept leadership – it has most clearly been based upon a small iner clique of people seeking self enrichment and agrandisement surrounded by a claque of vicious and often clandestine fools, in the belief they might benefit from some kind of ‘Buggin’s Turn’.

It is a danger of the inept and incompetent in leadership that they either fall fast and far as soon as decent folk have realised their unpleasant characteristics or they have gathered around them a sufficient claque to hold their position – as did Blair and clearly as have UKIP’s leadership.

It is remarkable to note the similarity between Blair and UKIP’s present leader Nigel Farage – both held in position, for lack of competent challengers having performed a Lady Macbeth having cut the throat of every possible Duncan who accepted their hospitality or arrived at their castle.

The similarities do not end there as both were inept as leaders without the basic Officer Qualities required – little more than showmen who for a while looked good on TV and had a winning way about them. Both gathered around them as their protection claque life’s failures and perverts with no other home or place to go – all seeking crumbs of comfort or cushy jobs, men and women of absolutely no merit and if they displayed any ability soon getting their throats cut by the claque who felt their position challenged.

Both individuals clearly and totally lacked judgement in selecting their allies and associates.

In Blair’s case he became the puppet of the corrupt and financially self serving Bush Regime and friendly with the morally incontinent Bill Clinton and his sordid pushy flesh creeping wife.

He appointed an utter economic illiterate Gordon Brown in a mutial involvement of blackmail based upon their personal perversions – having consorted with the most odious of modern day perverts the crooked and duplicitous Peter Manderlson and other clearly untrustworthy self seekimng men of power and zero morality like Maxwell, Robinson, Irving and the like with no shortage of dangerous and untrustworthy supporters and courtiers like Blunkett, Straw, and in the followers league to be rewarded the likes of Flint, Hewitt, Hain, Harman, Dromey and the like.

I must say all supertbly managed by the ‘Gaulleiter’ John Presscot and the structure put in place and managed it would seem through Julia Middleton’s Common Purpose.

Farage has attempted the same but with predictably less success – He is not nor has he ever been backed by The Communistss but there is no doubt he is hugely welcome by The EU who turn a blind eye to his apparent financial corruption and his amorality and lack of understanding of any kind of ethics. He has provided The EU with a visible screen of democracy and howmany times have we heard Farage cited as the proof The EU is democratic or he could not perform his schoolboy stunts, crass PR, inept press office, nor to be fair deliver his often excellent speeches in The EU Parliament (which no one hears or listens to!).

As for selecting friends and personal judgement it is of little merit to list his stupidities on a person by person basis be it the common thief and trollop Annabelle Fuller, the creepy pervert Gawain Towler, the odious and idiotic Douglas Denny or Mick McGough with their serial lies and fantasies or the failed press officer, failed publican, failed fixer and utterly corrupt low life Mark Croucher.

Consider the larger scale when it comes to judgement – Why did UKIP Leadership rig its selection to ensure more useless cronies topped their MEP lists – particularly in The Eastern EU Region of the UK. Why did they import the liar, cheat and crooked Spanish, Argentinian, Danish Marta Andreasen when so many others had rejected her (wisely).

Why did UKIP leadership risk splitting their party by allegiance with the extremists, the racists, the xenophobes, the anti homosexual, the anti Jewish, the holocaust deniers and the violent gutter sweepings of EU politics to grant credance to The EU insistence on Pan EU groupings by forming The EFD to represent UKIP members and the interests of British citizens of the UKIP electorate?

For considerably more information on The EFD CLICK HERE

You will also have been aware of the efforts to support The True Finns and to derive credibility from this odious Finnish Political Group.

Just as UKIP Leadership aided the Government and The EU by their total absence and complete lack of campaign or even visible effort during the imposition of The EU’s new constitution finally enacted as The Lisbon Treaty – we note they have provided very little background on their new EU pals The True Finns – though Haider’s Party in Holland was UKIP’s last failure of judgement as it seems they have spurned association with UKIP in the extremist EFD Group!

Perhaps some information regarding True Finns might help members – who recently voted 2 to 1 against their leaders and forming Pan EU Political Party Groups!

I hope UKIP members find the following of interest and enlightening as to their leadership’s new chums.

Wednesday, 28 September 2011

Study: True Finns condone violence

According to an international study into extremist groups, some True Finn members condone political violence. This is part of a Europe-wide study on the rise of populist sentiment and seems to be a far-reaching phenomenon. The study mentions specifically internet sites which condone hatred and promote violence, without mention of blogger and popular racist Jussi Halla-aho’s webforum Homma. Shockingly, the study was conducted after the Oslo massacre in which a radical racist targeted leftist politicians, leaving 77 dead.
Matti Putkonen, rapist, violent criminal, True Finn campaign manager
The study was swiftly condemned by the True Finns’ campaign manager, Matti Putkonen. Putkonen is of course remembered as a violent criminal, having been convicted of aggravated rape to an eight-month custodial sentence. He also had to pay a €10,000 fine, presumably to cover medical harm. Speaking at a live radio show, Putkonen called for the female chief of staff at the Ministry of Interior who published the study to resign, and said that the True Finn party does not condone violence. Thankfully, things did not escalate further this time as mr Putkonen was safely at the other end of the telephone line.

Matti Putkonen, rapist and habitual political opportunist is probably the best example of the True Finn hypocrisy when it comes to their value base. Former member of the Social Democratic party, former media rep for a labour union, Putkonen grabbed at the chance to jump ship just as soon as the polls showed a double-figure rise in support for the True Finn party. In a civilised society he would be on some kind of a registry already, and barred from holding a political office.

Thursday, 22 September 2011

James Hirvisaari: No Viet Cong ever called me Persu

True Finn first term MP and a prominent signer of Jussi Halla-aho’s racist election manifesto, James Hirvisaari has shocked but not surprised people with his recent blog post. James Hirvisaari says it is equally bad to call someone as “persu” (a name for the True Finn party, derived from the Finnish name PerusSuomalaiset) as it is to call someone a nigger or a yid. He also proceeds to call all reporters vultures and scavengers, and goes on to state that the media is out to get him and all other True Finn speakers of truth. On his blog. Which is hosted on the server of the newspaper Uusi Suomi.

persu party member James “persu” Hirvisaari

MP Hirvisaari’s angry blog post comes right after the Finnish broadcaster YLE’s “Hate Night Special” where they discussed hate speech. Evidently James Hirvisaari thinks it terribly unfair to only focus on the party which keeps spouting racist crap, when the topic of discussion is racist crap being spouted by politicians. The comments also come after the setting out of internal True Finn party guidelines on banned words. The guidelines contain a list of words to avoid, some of which James Hirvisaari chose to use in his blog post.

The True Finn parliamentary group leader, and one of the few two-term True Finn MPs Pirkko Ruohonen-Lerner was reportedly ‘frustrated’ over Hirvisaari’s remarks. She goes on to state there are vastly more important things to focus on, such as increased regional taxes. There is of course support for James Hirvisaari among fellow MPs. Having recently been expelled from the True Finn parliamentary group for calling for a military coup in Athens, MP Jussi Halla-aho compared the ongoing hate speech discussion to a “rise of a totalitarian, orwellian atmosphere in Finland.” The irony remains duly lost on all his followers.

Regardless of what your political outlook might be, comparing someone using a word you don’t like for your party to a racial slur is extraordinarily thin-skinned. Even more so when the vast majority of your own supporters think it a neutral term, if somewhat informal. Moreover the timing of the whole thing just shows an amazing degree of political insensitivity, coming just days after MP Halla-aho was temporarily expelled from the party over a Facebook post. It could of course be a part of a brilliant master plan by the Halla-ahonist fringe of the True Finn party, in which case all the co-signers of the racist election manifesto, James Hirvisaari, Olli Immonen and Juha Eerola, take turns to say racist stuff to get expelled. Brilliant is probably the wrong word to use though, it’s all degrees of stupidity with these people.

Thursday, 15 September 2011

Jussi Halla-aho expelled from True Finns

According to Uusi Suomi, leader of the True Finn party Timo Soini has proposed expelling blogger and popular racist Jussi Halla-aho from the party. This came after Jussi Halla-aho proposed replacing the Greek government with a military junta on his Facebook page. Here’s a translation of the relevant post:

Simple fact is that democracy (=elections) prevents any political government to take such action as to be really “effective” in solving the bankrupt Greek economy problem. Right now what is needed is a military junta that could use tanks to force the strikers and rioters into submission.

Jussi Halla-aho later tried to play his post off as some kind of a joke, but it was too late. True Finn parliamentary group leader, Pirkko Ruohonen-Lerner confirmed that expelling Jussi Halla-aho as a “temporary measure” is “very likely.” There has been speculation among followers of Finnish politics that this has to do with internal strife in the True Finn party, between Timo Soini’s eurosceptic loonies and Jussi Halla-aho’s racist loonies. Timo Soini, numerous as his other faults may be, is not actually racist and this move to disassociate his party from the most strident voice in the racist fringe was a long time coming.

Soon-to-become-irrelevant MP Jussi Halla-aho

It is generally assumed, that Jussi Halla-aho will be followed by his loyal cadre from radical racist Suomen Sisu. James Hirvisaari, Olli Immonen and Juha Eerola are all members of the movement, and will probably form a separate racist parliamentary group with their dear leader. This will spell the end of the extreme racist fringe playing any potentially major part in Finnish politics, so it’s a cause for great celebration! I have a feeling things actually took a turn for the better today.

UPDATE 14:28: Jussi Halla-aho’s expulsion from the True Finn parliamentary group was just confirmed in an unanimous decision. He is currently expelled for two weeks. This will probably not affect the bulk of his actual work in the parliament much, but he is unable to attend meetings of the True Finn parliamentary group.

Wednesday, 14 September 2011

True Finn MP plays the Nazi card

You all might remember the quote “Whenever I hear the word culture, I reach for my gun.” It’s frequently misattributed to Hermann Goering, but it actually comes from a pro-nazi play called Schlageter. People usually quote this to point out the brutality and violence of the national socialist regime, well normal people do that. True Finn MP Jussi Niinistö whom I’ve blogged about before apparently uses the phrase completely without irony.

Jussi Niinistö, you can’t see his hands but they’re reaching for his gun


Helsingin Sanomat reported
that in a parliamentary session this Tuesday, Jussi Niinistö said he is a strong proponent of expanded presidential powers, and that “whenever I hear the word parliamentarism, I reach for my gun”. Let’s just re-iterate that this quote is frequently raised as an example of the despicable brutality of the nazi regime, it’s certainly not a phrase that is in common use in Finland and would probably be in itself enough to send you to prison in Germany. Needless to say, this caused quite a bit of a scene in the session, and probably will haunt mr Niinistö for months to come.

My thanks to my obviously well informed source and if you want to read more of True Finn – also written by the same blogger CLICK HERE
You may also find Junius informative on this issue CLICK HERE 
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#0651* – UKIP’S Mick McGough Closely Follows Our Blogs!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/09/2011

#0651* – UKIP’S Mick McGough Closely Follows Our Blogs!

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UKIP’S NEC Member Mick McGough is one of the many 1,000s who Closely Follows this Blog & Junius!

For all his huff and puff, his lies, his stupidity, his cheating and his tasteless avatar – Astonishingly he has NEVER been able to identify a single misleading post or ever a consequential lie to mislead on either post!

On the other hand Mick McGough’s dishonest, corruption and lies are well documented and proven!

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Who pays for the Junius/GLW ,pro-EU,anti-UKIP axis ?

The poor lamb can speculate all he likes but he seems to think I am a liar like him – I have NEVER been paid for my blog as I have frequently stated.

I have received a small amount of money for helping to promote a blog and a referendum historically, to cover my expenses in opposition to membership of The EU – but no other payment as I have often shown.

I cannot believe they’d be so prolific without recompense for their (wasted )time
Given that one of the team recently married can one conclude that the team posts are pensionable ?

We appreciate that as a bean counter of very little brain adding up other peoples achievements we can understand why Mick McGough might well only act for personal gain – hence no doubt his lies to try to get on the EU Gravy Train!

Laughably I note the protestations from the CHEPSTOW (reminds me of Luton) Sword of Truth that he only deals in truths .

Yet for all his silly name calling this proven liar Mick McGough has never shown an error of any consequence on this or Junius blog. NOT ONE in many 1,000s! Nor have his corrupt cronies!

More like medically induced hallucinatory drivel,a rehash of past rants and the self deluding opinions of others with delusions of grandeur.

I wonder if that childish outburst will make him be taken more seriously by the corrupt EU Leadership – who also read this blog avidly printing out huge sections of it in the hope that we have made a mistake.

ps.contrary to the published ‘truth’ of GLW my Avatar is not a picture of the UKIP Party Director but someone much,much closer to the pony-tailed one.

 Yeah I had refrained from accepting this claim from other sources as I couldn’t prove it but the sort of sandy haired plumber look in a stripey top has been claimed to be the Mare of Ramsey so often that I succumbed to riding on the hearsay – particularly in the light of the company and the propensity of the woman in question for stripey tops:

Whether we can believe Mick McGough with his proven track record for telling lies and being wrong is irrelevant that his avatar is tasteless and manages to demean someone remarkably like the Mare of Ramsey will no doubt suffice for most.

Frankly who could care less – his postings are childish enough!..
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#0650* – So Very Little Changes In UKIP’s Navel Gazing!

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#0650* – So Very Little Changes In UKIP’s Navel Gazing!

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So Very Little Changes In UKIP’s Navel Gazing!
It is just a treadmill for enrichment of a small claque it seems!
Well what EXACTLY has UKIP achieved in 18 years that has moved us one inch closer to Leave-The-EU?

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as we run up to the UKIP conference it is sad to read the article about UKIP in NewEUrope OnLine dateline 05-September:

UKIP: Smears and signatures

Nikki Sinclaire MEP, who left the Europe of Freedom and Democracy over allegations of extremism and homophobia, has started a petition in the UK, asking for a referendum on EU membership.
She believes that the UK is, in practice, neither in or out of the union and is dithering on the sidelines.  Although she is a strong supporter of leaving the EU, she wants to have a genuine referendum, with both sides of the argument being able to make their case in a fair contest.
So far, she has collected over 10,000 signatures, 10% of her 100,000 target. This has put the UK Independence Party in a bit of a spot. They are hurrying out their own petition, so the Brits will at least get a choice of which petition to sign. To outsiders, it looks like the typical chaos surrounding the party. Sinclaire is visiting all the party conferences, starting with UKIP, who are meeting in Torquay, the home town of Basil Fawlty, where she will be holding a fringe event. Meanwhile, UKIP are holding elections for their National Executive, which has run into problems. 
Godfrey Bloom MEP sent out a letter and sample ballot form to members, where he had considerately filled in the ‘right’ candidates for them.  The night before Sinclaire’s fringe meeting about her petition, Tory blogger Iain Dale reported that,  the newly formed NEC, “were told that former UKIP MEP Nikki Sinclaire MEP is currently under investigation by OLAF, the EU Anti-Fraud Unit, and the West Midlands Economic Crime Unit on allegations of misuse of European Parliamentary allowances.”
He added that the meeting had been presented with documentary evidence.
Impeccable timing!

A well placed source has told New Europe that OLAF is not investigating Sinclaire and West Midland Police have insisted to us that they have not initiated an investigation into the MEP.

To view the original CLICK HERE
 

 as I said – so little changes and UKIP has spent a whole year with not an achievement to its name just more squabbling, a few more largely irrelevant councillors have defected in various directions, some old Tory hacks have tried to be noticed tottering around on Zimmer Frames and UKIP has tried to cover up its losses to the Tories.

In the year since the article was published Nikki Sinclaire has generated a great deal of good publicity whilst Farage’s ‘protege‘ Annabelle Fuller had considerable coverage for her drink fueled antics and stealing an MPs Blackberry and his House of Commons Pass.

The NEC has had its usual quota of knock down drag ’em out fights with the clearly out of control leadership and the liar Mick McGough has been given credibility by UKIP to show himself as a dishonest liar beyond his normal train trips and on You Tube where he gave a master class in how not to do politics he has added forums, the NEC and YouTube to his repetoire of dragging UKIP’s name into the gutter he inhabits but as ever he is not alone!

Then almost as predictably as day follows night an insider presents a dossiere of material, published over the years on my blogs and Junius producing it like a rabbit out of a hat with covering theories of their own to explain why they have finally, like some 100,000 before them, have lost confidence with UKIP and its endless navel gazing and failure to achieve anything of note as a party, much beyond the enrichment of its leadership claque!

Whilst on the subject of 100,000 Sinclaire has easily surpassed her target for the year presenting her figures to the media which they saw as so consequential together with the hugely valuable poll she commissioned and paid for that the story even broke the fog of war (well riots actually).

100,000+ is no mean achievement when you consider UKIP’s last petition raised 13,000 and lost the tax payer £1/4M – lost being the operative word!!

You will note her petition way outstrips the John Gaunt version which seemingly has ground to a halt with what is now a very out of date web site and also the Tory Party approved Plastic EUrosceptic poll which I gather is still trying to break 50,000 despite the support of Milliband, Bob Crow and others!

As for Mrs. Dale’s Diary revelations it would seem clear that he was set up with false information and used by malicious and malevolent factions in UKIP though I do understand that Derek Clark was found guilty of fraud but OLAF have not published their findings nor the details of the substantial amount he had to pay back as I gather the file has been passed to the British police but it is likely he will not be sent to prison if tried in view of his decrepitude.

I gather the OLAF enquiry into the fraud confessed to by Stuart Agnew has yet to be resolved as is the David Bannerman enquiry – though I gather Mike Nattrass seems to have dropped his legal complaints against The Sunday Times as their every word was true and interestingly although found guilty and having repaid monies fradulently obtained by Graham Booth his retirement to his UKIP earned pension seems not to have been matched with any generosity of spirit beyond the £Millions he has accrued and boasts of an Aston Martin!

Still a year on Farage is trying to dupe the party deeper into The EU as ever permitting the EU to dictate the agenda in return for them paying for the conference – frankly who in UKIP cares what Finland’s or any continental Country’s opinion of The EU is.

UKIP’s remit is to Leave-The-EU not to enrich a small claque and pose around doing The EU’s bidding in return for its bribes – which is why the membership voted 2 to 1 against helping The EU gain credibility in return for bribes with PEPP membership.

Clearly the membership of UKIP have made it VERY clear they are disgusted with the Pan EU Party EFD Group and its vile extremists lessons and clearly they just don’t care howmuch Farage will personally lose if UKIP does not join a PEPP. That said it is still on the cards Farage may be self serving and unscrupulous enough to try a re-run of the 2000 conference with an emulation of Michael Holmes’ back me or sack me – at least this time we will be spared the dullard comic antics of Booths’ skit on the stupidity of Devonians – though one can hardly put a similar version as a temper tantrum from First Legge!!

Having stalled since January to try to avoid what would inevitably be another High Court defeat at the hands of Sinclaire will we see much pretence of sweetness and light till the day after the conference ends.

Remember the year Tom Wise was exposed as a criminal by The Sunday Telegraph, the duplicitous behaviour of UKIP leadership making promises to Petrina Holdsworth they were proven they had no intention of keeping leading to her resignation after the dishonest attempts to keep her on board for the conference.

It really is astonishing just how little would need to be changed in the 2010 article above to suit todays scenario in UKIP!!
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#0648* – Should UKIP follow Scottish Tories & Disband?

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#0648* – Should UKIP follow Scottish Tories & Disband?

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It is worth considering does UKIP still exist!!

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The staggering dishonesty and stunning stupidity of UKIP NEC members such as Mick McGough, Douglas Denny, Hugh Williams and their cronies would be hard to over estimate – I guess it is little wonder that the likes of Stuart Wheeler bipass them in decision making, as with the recent appointment of the utterly inept and inappropriate little Michael Heavers [for details see: CLICK HERE] who brings so little to the party beyond his ambition and an ability to make even Stuart Parr look stupid!
Little wonder that UKIP’s incestuous little forum has been bubbling and fizzing with the tantrums of the self important nebishes. Even someone as gullible and naiive as Steve Allison would seem to clearly have woken up to the fact of his own irrelevance – he can not claim he wasn’t warned!
The dishonesty and obvious stupidity of Mick McGough beggars belief with his display of political ignorance on the other UKIP Forum run for them by the weak and dishonest little muppet Anthony Butcher was a sight to behold today with the utterly stupid comment:

What binds this axis of anti-UKIP men and women?
Are they remunerated ?
If so by whom ?

and then in answer to another poster’s question:
Quote Originally Posted by Road_Hog View Post

Are they anti-UKIP or anti the direction that Farage is taking UKIP in?

Just anti-UKIP,attacking Farage as he is the leader.Any other leader would be similarly attacked

It would seem he has rather less political savvy keeping his ears apart than his avatar would indicate that Lisa Duffy has keeping her pants on!
Astonishingly in response to Road_Hog’s question above, Barren of Brain showed himself to be even less politically informed! His first stupidity was to say:

I’m certain they are anti-UKIP. They might have a point or two about Farage, but they are not interested in anti-EU politics. That to me is a dead giveaway.

It may make him feel important but to be so wrong is staggering even for someone who can not see past his own ego!
The comment of the idiotic AND consistenly ill informed Independent UKIP (widely believed to be little Ray Finch and a couple of others desperately boot licking to stay with their snouts in the gravy boat) his reply to ‘ex-member’  is so stupid as to be worth fisking for amusement:
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Do tell us the direction Farage is taking the party in?
Farage is much more interested in the questions put by Mcgough-
who is behind the outrageous attacks on his clear and trasparent leadership methods?
Who is financing them?

Good that you’re still around ex-member. As Farage is also still around things don’t seem to be going too well for your lot.

I trust the fool does not include me as I am all too well aware that Farage has ensured he is EUkip’s only asset – people of the calliber of Ray Finch, Gawain Towler, Mark Croucher, Godfrey Bloom, Mick McGough, Michael Heavers, Lisa Duffy, Annabell Fuller, Johnny Arnott, are indication enough that without Farage EUkip has nothing

That Farage is EUkip’s greatest assett I have NEVER denied, nor have I lied to people and implied that he is other than their greatest liability as the media have shown time and again.

I don’t expect you to give up on your anti-UKIP efforts though.

I will have to take his word for the claim that ex-member is ‘anti-UKIP’ though I have never seen evidence to support the claim and as I know The Junius team I know only too well how supportive of UKIP they have been and are.
I can only speak with certainty of myself and little wonder the cowardly worm hides behind anonymity if he claims that I am anti-UKIP or in any way on any day pro membership of The EU – Sir you are a liar and most clearly a coward – too cowardly to put your name to your obvious dishonesty, self serving as it may be.
You are Sir little better than the liar cheat and low life Mick McGough whose dishonesty is only rivalled by his stupidity which are both outshone by his vile and self demeaning personality – an excrecence on a par with Mark Croucher, John Ison, David Bannerman, Stuart Parr and the like who serially lie and cheat in their betrayal of these United Kingdoms for their personal gain.

In reply to post 1, the Junius hate blog

That you may HATE the truth about EUkip being published does not surprise me one iota.

recently reproduced a claim that Mr Rodney Atkinson was forced out of the party due to his apparent exposure of Conrad Black as a Bilderberger.

A claim which was NOT a statement of Junius merely the misinformed belief of one individual included in the dossier of papers published by long term UKIP member in Farage’s region who has resigned from UKIP Chichester – However do by all means study the facts which can be found if you CLICK HERE
To have implied, as you seemed to, that Junius wrote the comment is dishonest and clearly in character for you.

As Mr Lance-Watkins claims for himself much of the credit for stopping Mr Atkinson from becoming UKIP leader a possible source by which Mr Lance-Watkins is remunerated is the Bilderberg group.

You do make an incredible fool of yourself with such ill informed comments.

I’m certainly not saying that is the case but merely putting the possibility out there.

Indeed your disingenuous dishonesty needs no explanation – those of any intelligence saw through your childish behaviour long ago.

As for the Junius hate blog

You keep repeating your little mantra as if to convince yourself – Sir as ever you are clearly a liar as you have totally failed to show EVER where Junius blog has been so childish as to hate and clearly no example where it could be described as hating UKIP.

there is very little doubt that one or more of their ‘editors’ is most happily in the pay of the EU.

Here you are actually right – in the ranks of EUkip leadership and their parasites there is little doubt.
It is of course that doubt that has them endlessly accusing eachother and others of participation.
When on a ship of fools it is rarely wise to follow the lead with a joke! Today YOU are that joke!
Showing yourself to be even more stupid than we might have imagined you went on to post this wriggling effort in a spectacularly inept attempt to embarrass Petrina Holdsworth:
It was the GLW link I was alluding to.
Wriggling to get off the hook PH had firmly put you on from an earlier ill informed comment you made!
Some of those you associated with in UK First were and are very close associates of Mr Lance-Watkins
As with the very many senior members of UKIP and subsequently EUkip who quite clearly supplied me with information and address l;ists ensuring the accuracy of my eMails, Forum Posts and blogs now and over the years. So accurate have they been that NO ONE has ever shown me to have materially misled or lied to mislead in a single solitary posting, which is why I do not have need of the cowardly device of anonymity and provide my address and phone number readily so that anyone wishing to ‘clean-up’ EUkip and make it a party that informed and ethical individuals of morality can vote for and put their name to as gentlemen can both supply information to that end or confirm the source and facts behind the many repetitions and revellations I have made over some 15 years.
as evidenced by the info and material provided to him during that brief era.
It may interest you to know, and as it is now not material, most of which was supplied by UKIP members who hoped that UKFirst might emerge as a replacement for the befouled EUkip.
But despite the claimed role of Mr Lance-Watkins in the failure of Mr Atkinson to gain the UKIP leadership you went along with those characters (I should have used the words “type of” in addition to the words used, sorry for not doing so) in that party.
I presume ‘went along with’ includes Malcolm Pearson who had various meetings with them during that period, which of course he would not have been allowed to do without Farage’s approval as he was after all Farage’s ‘bitch’ pimping his ideas and views – even his lies and dishonesty.
Before we continue I would ask you to consider:
Is it reasonable to state that any Political Body or Corporation that is so bereft of ability to show its achievements and worth that it despatches its agents and spokesment under cowardly cover of anonymity or irrelevance to lie, distort dissemble, bully and abuse as their only defence has most clearly lost the plot.
That its agents are shown repeatedly not for their achievements which seem insignificant but for their criminality, arrogance, dishonesty and corruption might they be considered to have lost the moral right to lead.

May it be accepted that unable to show any competence, ability or achievement of note and value in their appointed task yet setting out for self enrichment they seek to defend themselves in Court with other people’s money they are clearly without ethic or morality.

That they seek in default of truth to lie and defame and then default upon their bills to seek to harm those weaker than themselves might they be considerred to have lost all right to respect or support from informed and ethical individuals.

If you can say no to any of these questions then may I suggest EUkip is the party for you!

Sunday, 4 September 2011

UKIP should follow Scottish Tories and disband

Today’s Sunday Telegraph story on the above quoting the Scottish Tories likely new leader, Murdo Fraser was the best example of political leadership I can remember. Mr Fraser has looked at the Tory performance in Scotland and come to the rational conclusion supported by the evidence that North of the border the Tories are finished and has the courage to act on his beliefs. I quote from the ST below.

Murdo Fraser, who is favourite to become leader of the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party, will announce that he plans to wind up the party if he wins a ballot of members next month. 
He would follow disbanding the party by launching a new Right-of-centre party that would contest all Scottish elections — council, Scottish Parliament and Westminster.
Mr Fraser, a member of the Scottish Parliament, believes the Conservatives have become a “toxic brand” in Scotland since losing all 11 of their Commons seats in the 1997 Labour landslide.

UKIP needs to do the same and recognise its total electoral failure in the only elections that can lead to the UK leaving the EU, the Westminster elections! UKIP is currently the problem in making progress on this core issue and is not and never can be even part of the solution.

Its name in the blogosphere  of EUKIP is well merited. Its leadership has been bribed by EU money and flattery into Brussels based EU supporters and much, much worse blocking the development of a real leave the EU party in the UK. It is irretrievably dominated by the same old toxic Tories, Pearson, Gill, Farage etc that the Scots Tory leader elect recognises as an insurmountable barrier to winning MPs in Scotland. And look at UKIP’s latest recruit and star conference speaker, Neil Hamilton! A man who led the way in expenses scandals long before duck houses became fashionable.

Tim Congdon, one of the leaders in the No vote campaign against Farage’s pan Europe party is also down to speak at the UKIP conference sharing a platform with Bloom who is alleged already to have signed up to a Pan Europe party and a Czech EU reformist called Mach whom I have never heard of. Tim’s political compass needs looking at. If he wants out of the EU he should keep well away from these EU, mid European apologists.

UKIP can rid itself of these toxic, unreconstructed old Tories  only by disbanding and immediately reforming as broad based centrist anti EU party ie a party that could win Westminster seats like the Greens. This is the best and only contribution EUKIP can make to getting us out of the EU. The people are there to do it. Nikki Sinclaire, Mike Natrass, Trevor Colman and John Bufton. UKIP’s NEC is simply a Farage rubber stamp group of mushrooms. Kept in the dark and fed plenty of shit. Batten is politically spineless against Farage and Andreasen is the Monet dream made flesh.

It is down to those 4 MEPs to show some leadership. What have they to lose? Farage will never allow them to go on any UKIP MEP slate again. That is of course the real reason Bannerman jumped ship to the Tories. It had nothing to do with his profound admiration of  EU phile boy Dave. As soon as he stood against Farage for the leadership he was toast. He knew that as does anyone who knows Farage. Look at what has happened to the others who have stood against Farage in leadership contests.

Its a pity Tim Congdon lacks a political sense. As one ministers PPS once said to me that its like a sixth sense and if you don’t have it you will never succeed in politics. Del Young has it big time. That is why he had to be marginalised and got rid off. Tim would be better off taking Del’s advice than Batten’s or Steve Allison. Both think they will be allowed onto the UKIP MEP slate in 2014. Knowing Farage, if he is still leader, I would not bet on either Batten or Allison appearing higher than 10, if at all, on any regional MEP slate. 

Greg_L-W. said…

Hi,

you seem to imply that there is something worth saving in EUkip.

Mike Nattrass, Trevor Colman and Nikki Sinclaire have effectively left EUkip and its corruption behind them.

If you consider the only way to clean-up the party is to dissolve it and reform it immediately – how do YOU believe that this would ensure the removal of the corrupt leadership when quite clearly the members have voted clearly against them and even now it is likely Farage will use the conference to re-sell PEPPs with a back me or sack me gamble, without winning that he personally is of course finished.

The membership have voted resolutely against him and the liars he has gathered around him to support PEPPs on two very clear occasions.

The members also voted resolutely against his AV proposition and his Local Elections were catastrophic.

Politically poor old Tim but Dim lacks the required abilities to lead, Stuart Wheeler has shown he is happy to collude in corruption and has the judgement skills sufficient to have gambled and made a fortune which he has proceeded to loos by £Millions ever since.

Just look at how he behaves and the calliber of people he funds and even in UKIP he knows the NEC are untrustworthy and irrelevant so he ignores them.

EUkip has made itself apparent as no more than a Judas Goat, a claque of Plastic EUroSceptics who are unable to show a single solitary actual achievement that has placed these United Kingdoms closer to Leave-The-EU.

To be fair they have trousered a great deal of money, have helped The EU gain a great deal of credibility and have set out to sabotage numerous initiatives being more interested in their wealth creation, self interest and ensuring they do not upset the cart that delivers their apples.

Who would be worth saving when their ship sinks with their top 100 on.

Please – just a few names would be worth considering for I know of none.

EUkip has for some time now been very much a part of the problem with no place in the solution.

Clearly I have been for many years and still am a resolute supporter of UKIP but clearly I will NOT tolerate corruption and deceit of any kind and I consider the befouled EUkip to be irredeemable – I regret.

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Hi,

Eric you commented on some utterly unknown EU politician speaking at EUkip’s conference.

This shows the extent to which EUkip has bought into The EU project as frankly what Finland, Estonia, Germany, Libya, Germany, Afghanistan or Greece chooses as its method of Governance is absolutely no business of ours.

Please note that Nikki Sinclaire’s You Gov poll clearly showed that 53% of the peoples of these United Kingdoms will, when given the opportunity, vote to Leave-The-EU yet only 30% would vote to remain which is quite incredible minded just howmany aliens have been flooded into Britain to try to tip the balance.

It is interesting also to note that EUkip’s extremist partners in The EU list at least 2 who openly or obliquely gave support to Anders Brevick and today I note Mario Borghezio is still a member of the group for all Farage’s huff and puff, as is Francesco Speroni see:
http://www.efdgroup.eu/the-group.html
suspended for the summer holidays one must assume yet featuring over a week into the new parliament!

Will they be speakers to ensure enough utterly irrelevant foreigners speak to qualify for the EU bribes that will pay for the conference and much of the ancilliary costs.

I note also John Gaunt will be attending though his EU Referendum site has not been updated for an age and like Dan Hannan & Glendenning and the othert Judas Goat’s approved Conservative site they have been shown up by the dedication of Nikki Sinclare’s 100K+ signature petition – despite the many efforts of Farage, Bloom, Pearson and others to sabotage her effort and aid The EU and Tories thereby.

Clearly EUkip is no part of the solution with the likes of The Fraudster and abuser Stuart Agnew, The Liar and fraudster Derek Clark and the concatenation of low lifes and liars on the NEC how could EUkip ever be a part of the solution?

EUkip represents no values I would wish to call British.

Indeed EUkip is corrupt and corrupting OUR-ENEMY-WITHIN

Regards,
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Wriggle & Squirm but Farage’s EFD Position is ETHICALLY Untenable!

Stuart Agnew’s blatantly stated disregard for members must call into question when will he resign his seat!

Clearly a serial liar and low life like Mick McGough has no place in any ethical organisation!

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Hi,

Although this blog & others I am associated with published the results provisionally at 14:30hrs. yesterday you will note that today even a further 24 hours later UKIP has not published its results on its web site to inform its members.

The actual result was a win for the NO vote, as we earlier stated:
Yes 2,535 (32.9%)
No 5,161 (67.1%)

Turn Out 49.2%

I am rather pleased at the accuracy of my public prediction last week that I expected around 7.1/2 thousand voters which would represent between 2/3rds. and 3/4 of the extant membership. This, as predicted turned out to be true with 7,696 votes cast.
We were however wrong in our predictions not realising just how large an effect the internet has had on the event, but it is now clear that as a result of the various blogs informing people of the lies of Mick McGough in support of the yes campaign:


From Steve Allison

From steve allison
to Stuart Agnew MEP
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cc Steve Crowther
Date 19.06.2011

Stuart,

I have received a complaint regarding the video.

Specifically the complaint refers to the claim by Mick McGough that he “has in his hand a cheque for £300,000 payable to UKIP”

The No campaign claim the money CANNOT be paid to UKIP.

Can you please confirm that the claim that the money can be paid from a PEP direct to UKIP is accurate.

If you cannot confirm this is a factually accurate statement then I must ask for the video to be withdrawn until a suitable correction of fact can be made.

Steve Allison
Vice Chairman UKIP.

Also the reprehensible comments of Stuart Agnew informing his audience that effectively he didn’t care what the outcome of the vote would be he was going to join a PEPP regardless as he could make more money and that Godfrey Bloom had already joined one in the certain knowledge that the membership, at the party conference, had resoundingly rejected the scam.

I was wrong on my prediction that it would be a close run thing with maybe as little as 2% either way in the result – I really didn’t realise just how much influence the truth would have on the members, you only need to read the in house Farage Fanzine The Independence Magazine to realise that was not where they were accessing the truth.

Clearly the activists and the ‘armchair vote’ alike have been keeping themselves aware of the dishonesty of the leadership via the blogs.

I guess we should not be as surprised as Mick McGough is not the only one who has made it very clear that he is a regular reader of both Junius and UKIP-vs-EUkip blogs on which he frequently comments and quotes, he even posts himself occasionally.

I guess all that leaves me to say to our regular readers and followers – Thank You for this little personal triumph in the efforts to Clean-Up UKIP to make it a party that ethical informed individuals may one day be willing to vote for to Leave-The-EU.

Let us hope that Farage and his parasites clinging on like maggots on a corpse realise their scam is dead in the water and rapidly withdraw from membership of the extremist, racist, anti Jewish and vile Pan EU Political Party EFD Group.

As soon as Farage is willing to forgo the extra income he makes and UKIP MEPs can be permitted to act in the interest of the electorate and Britain with control of their own 400 budget (formerly 4000 budget), their own travel allowances and staffing budgets and represent Britain in their own right on committees and ‘missions’ rather than have the allocation of travel and committees used as bribes to buy in members to the group to boost the group leaders income and personal control.

Enough of personality politics it has proved divisive and an abject failure for UKIP – where the leadership seemingly have utterly lost sight of the aim, which was to actively campaign to inform on the details of the damage done to Britain by membership of The EU, divise an exit and survival strategy and actively campaign to fulfil that strategy – NOT as a scam for self enrichment and Isle of Mann bank accounts and posturing on the gravy train with their snouts in the trough.

 
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#0631* – UKIP MEMBERS REJECT PEPP MEMBERSHIP 19:30hrs. 16-Aug-2011

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Hi,

It would seem that UKIP members have voted resoundingly against Farage’s recommendation – his political ineptitude in trying to force the support of The EU on members for his personal gain has backfired.

Having chosen two dishonest men to front his pro PEPP campaign with the fraudster Stuart Agnew EFD & NFU MEP and the liar and cheat Mick McGough. Farage made a terrible mistake as it became apparent to the membershiop that they were being deliberately lied to by their leadership – so much so that they were forced to withdraw some of their excesses and remake their video to remove some of the lies!

That this debate was forced on the party when Farage had resoundingly lost the support of members at last years conference and an overwhelming vote against membership of PEPPs was passed leading to Farage’s accusation that Trevor Colman having won had just cost him (Farage) £1 Million a year!

To try to save face Farage has not only cost UKIP over £10,000 in organising the debate & vote but has deeply split the party leaving those who lied to support him with no honourable course of action other than to resign and leaving Farage in a ludicrous position!

Farage has fractured his party, divided his leadership and surrendered his mandate as leader – this on top of a £10,000 bill and a catastrophic local elections in May all based upon his crass personal lack of leadership skills.

To add to this he is now in the embarrassing position that he has forced out of UKIP leadership Mike Nattrass, Trevor Colman & Nikki Sinclaire as they were unwilling to cohabit with Farage’s chosen extremist, racist, anti Jewish and violent EFD Pan EU Political Party Group!

How can Farage be taken seriously ever again having made such a mess of his job and so betrayed his members? No informed individual could still believe he was much more than a puppet for The EU filling the role that it seems he was invented for – an opposition giving spurious credibility to the pretence The EU is in any way democratic.

Today even The EU are losers as it seems clear that UKIP members have seen through their scam and Farage is left discreditted. Will The EU dump their blue eyed boy and invent another puppet to posture and pose as an opposition whilst sabotaging the credibility of The EUroSceptic wing of The Tory Party?

Clearly UKIP members have voted against membership of The EFD and wisely so but will their leadership in arrogant greed merely dismiss the members as the buffoon Michael Greaves did, stating his master’s view that UKIP Members are too stupid to understand the issues!

Farage has put himself into a corner, where his party has voted resoundingly against his leadership, and he has no honourable choice but to withdraw from leadership of The EFD, immediately suspending UKIP membership of The Pan EU Political Party EFD Group – Pending notification to The EU that UKIP has terminated its membership – UKIP MEPs have no honourable choice but to sit as Unattached Members of The EU Parliament – a status where you may recal Nikki Sinclaire showed the lead as clearly more in touch with the members than Farage and his claque of parasites.

I note that over 5 hours after the vote result was in the public domain on my blogs, on Twitter and on Junius there is no sign of letting the membership at large know with no announcement, comment or apology on the UKIP Web Site, The No Campaign Web Page or The Yes Campaign Web Page respectively.

Is it that the leadership are licking their wounds and trying to dream up a story to cover for this catastrophe they have engineered for themselves?

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#0628* – Gerard BATTEN on How NOT To do politics!

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#0602* – HOW NOT TO DO POLITICS by Mick McGOUGH & UKIP

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one has to wonder if some crass and amateur little liar like Annabelle Fuller had intended to post this on You Tube in Morrocco and was pipped to the post by someone who has complete contempt for UKIP, morality, fundamental honesty and any concepts of ethics – Just to damage UKIP.

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