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#0225* – Dramatis Personnae in UKIP’s Ship of Fools!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 18/12/2010

#0225* – Dramatis Personnae in UKIP’s Ship of Fools!!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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Dramatis Personnae in UKIP’s Ship of Fools!
Just for fun!
Look At The Garbage Butcher’s Squalid Forum Attracts!

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Hi,

It is astonishing just how ill informed these UKIP parasites are! Not to mention utterly stupid – they are desperately trying to create an issue out of a sub editor laying out an article 7 years ago!! Then latching onto every little minute item to invent something. Then weenie waggling to impress themselves for surely they impress no one else!

Clearly they are ever more frustrated and in fact angry at the irrefutable FACT that they can not find a single solitary action of dishonesty nor a lie not even a deliberate distortion by me relative to UKIP.

They are so self obsessed that they are endlessly showing everything that is despicable about UKIP but without exception they both miss their target and show they are in fact NOT supporters of UKIP or even seriously opposed to membership of The EU in that again and again they drag UKIP into the gutter where they live and take any dishonest action to personally point score for their own gain – dishonest grubby little worms of people with no morality, less integrity and no understanding of duty or Patriotism.

Talk about THINK – I wonder how any of them have ever held down a job they are so stupid, if Skeptyk is willingly making a fool of themselves out of mallice or if they believe what they are saying just how stupid are they and at the end of the day they ALL just keep telling lies to impress themswelves – no wonder most of them are too ashamed to use their names.

I see the idiot Independent UKIP has displayed how stupid he is, comes across as some rather ill informed and unprincipled clerical functionary but who cares!

His latest is sooo stooopid!

 Originally Posted by Niall Warry 

When you have a good example of any FACTS GLW has ever said about UKIP not being true do let him know and if you are right I’m sure he will issue an apology.

>Niall, do you endorse his assertion that ex-member is in fact Nigel Farage? Or is that ‘fact’ pure fantasy?<

Here is what ex-member presumptively and rather foolishly said:

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It is a fact that the person who used to leak UKIP internal decisions to Greg Lance-Watkins was a MR.Nigel Farage. That was of course when he and Greg were bosom friends.

Obviously no one could make such a statement with such certainty unless they were me – which it is not! Nigel Farage or someone who supplied me with the reports from the NEC but did so on Nigel’s instruction.

I stated tongue in cheek as a joke on one of my blogs:

>>Thanks for the phone call to tell me the slime were making fools of themselves inventing fantasies about me, and spreading lies as ever – no wonder filth like Skeptyk, Baron, Independent UKIP and now quite clearly Farage masquerading as ex-member, because I KNOW ex-member isn’t me and so the only person who could KNOW Farage leaked FACTS to me was Farage is in fact FARAGE – quite clever really because my sources managed to hide that fact from me and even I didn’t KNOW!<<

Note the last line (for idiots who missed the clues 😉

They are so stoooopid the joke went straight past them and what was clearly NOT a ststement of fact was treated as such.

I guess that is what happens with people who seem only to be motivated by money and vitriol in defence of their own self percieved importance!

I guess people whose sordid lives are based only on self interest and the expectation of reward who will use any form of dishonesty to achieve their self interest and as a result you will note that Skeptyk with over 1,400 posts has as far as I have noted ammassed, though I rarely read the forum,  an apparent track record of mere destructive and vitriolic self interest.

Clearly they lack much education but are cunning with a devious ability to distort meanings to suit themselves but without any morality or any constructive aim save self interest. I found not a single reasoned and intelligent political thought and nop signs of any effort to formulate a plan other than react to try to destroy people – this seems like someone with a low grade polytech training which may well have produced a decree in some idiot subject like meeja studies or IT.

Interestingly where my spelling is and always has been lazy and erratic their spelling is overly meticulous as with the use of English which shows a basic insecurity and inferior self image as you will note at least one of the threads is consistent in its use of American spellings.

There are also individuals like Denny who are terribly self impressed as a fantasist – the fantasies would seem to be based on overly naiive trust and quite imature realisation of inadequacy leading to over egging every issue in self aggrandisement based on a huge and well earned class chip on his inadequate shoulders – the sort of person who would pass endless degrees of a technocratic nature but none requiring deductive abilities or a sound structural imagination.

Crouchers dishonesty and imature inadequacy is so transparent as to be risible – clearly no fool but a consumate self styled low life probably scholarship to a minor boarding school his parents could not afford where he was only able, he thought, to progress by finding protection in others more senior or more competent to shelter and elevate himself – the sort who makes a point of seeking out secrets to use to trade for gain.

A revolting devious and dishonest little man who no doubt has passed through dozens of glib self gratifying relationships that amount to nothing as soon as his partners realise he is a hollow shell of a man full of devious ingratiation but no integrity and ultimately so self centered as to betray everuyone in the end.

Just the sort of little oik you do NOT want at your table when in humerous rancour you proclaim of Thomas A’Becket – ‘who will rid me of this turbulent priest’ this, like Denny, is the sort of man of low morality who would rush off to earn points and praise by literal expectation!

A likely suicide case, when it dawns on him he is nothing and has nothing to offer, having achieved nothing of value but people he has used trailed behind him – a drink fuelled car accident is my guess.

Some similarities with Farage without Farage’s superficial charm or oratory abilities – sadly Farage is so insecure he has to be the center of attention and like his father before him is a hopeless drunk covering for his failure as a man – Farage is endlessly seeking praise  and adulation unaware he hasn’t a friend in the world once he can not buy them! Just howmany people have to pay their wives to buy their loyalty! Not the most subtle of relationships but in real terms seemingly the only sort he knows – look at the manner in which he buys control of his MEPs and staff!

Thus: Farage is a “control freak” says fellow UKIP MEP

McGough – Just a bean counter with a massive resentment of being nobody, paid to tally other peoples’ money! A bitter failure of a man who seeks to debase everyone to appear enhanced rather than build anyone to himself rise up. An inadequate of huge proportions hence his endless Walter Mitty lies to seem of relevance used and exploited by the likes of Batten, Farage, Smith etc. who have the same inadequacy but but not as accutely.

Anyway there is my bit of fun in response to the stoooopidity of Independent UKIP’s isiotic comment, a retoricall question posed to look clever having failed to realise just how stooopid it shows him to be.

Regards,
Greg L-W..

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#0219* – Skeptyk, Filth, The Forum, contempt, cowardice. – UKIP, Farage & Anna Lindh

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 15/12/2010

#0219* – Skeptyk, Filth, The Forum, contempt, cowardice. – UKIP, Farage & Anna Lindh!  

PLEASE NOTE: This is a blog entry re Anna Lindh’s tragic death 7 years ago, it is mostly copied from CLICK HERE which I shall endeavour to reasonably update and correct.



The aim was to give an outline of factual information, not a forensic accounting, that would help people understand the funadamental dishonesty of those cowards who see fit to shelter their misrepresentation of this matter behind cowardly anonymity – seemingly in attempts to TRY 7 years after the event to distort and defame, exploiting her tragic death duplicitously and dishonestly, as a weapon to beat others.

As many have discovered the leadership and those feeding at the table of UKIP are largely utterly and undeniably corrupt, beset with outright liars and efforts to protect them by funded filth that prostitute integrity to that end.

I appreciate that filth like Mark Croucher, Douglas Denny, Mike McGough and Skeptyk are too stupid to understand integrity, morality or duty and endlessly drag UKIP’s reputation into the gutter they inhabit – showing the depravity of the comments they are willing to make to desperately TRY to defame me and others.
To date – all they have achieved is to show the public yet more reasons not to vote for UKIP under its present leadership.
 
Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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Skeptyk, Filth, Butcher, The Forum, Douglas Denny, Stuart Parr, Mike McGough, Mark Croucher – contempt, cowardice. 
– UKIP, Farage & Anna Lindh!!

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From: Greg Lance-Watkins
eMail: Greg_L-W (Greg_L-W@BTconnect.com)
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Hi,

Is it any wonder that the cowards and pond life on Anthony Butcher’s squalid little Forum tend to hide behind false names or silly constructs to dissemble and lie!

Well now we KNOW that ex-member in Nigel Farage!

Thanks for the phone call to tell me the slime were making fools of themselves inventing fantasies about me, and spreading lies as ever – no wonder filth like Skeptyk, Baron, Independent UKIP and now quite clearly Farage masquerading as ex-member, because I KNOW ex-member isn’t me and so the only person who could KNOW Farage leaked FACTS to me was Farage is in fact FARAGE – quite clever really because my sources managed to hide that fact from me and even I didn’t KNOW!

Is it any wonder these low lifes and their mates are too ashamed to use their own names, understandably the likes of Denny, Croucher, McGough and those actually using their own names to lie, slander, libel and defame with their fantasies and deliberate dishonesty clearly have no reputation worth supporting or defending and are happy to be shown as dishonest and dishonourable.

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It is a fact that the person who used to leak UKIP internal decisions to Greg Lance-Watkins was a MR.Nigel Farage. That was of course when he and Greg were bosom friends.
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A measure of the general dishonesty of those writing as Skeptyk too ashamed to put their name to the pack of lies they so often publish is that yet again they dishonestly misrepresent the tragic death of the Swedish Minister Anna Lindh, and my comments on the subject at the time when clearly they will have read the facts they dishonestly choose to be selective to try to present a completely false picture.



Be assured that, as has been shown repeatedly, neither the award winning leading investigative journalist Daniel Foggo on the front page of The Sunday Telegraph, nor I, did anything but tell the truth based upon the facts available to us. 

That this nasty little worm skeptyk yet again chooses to lie is no surprise. They have NEVER been able to show a single instance where I misrepresented a single FACT in a dishonest way and unable to refute the truth they resort to the cowards solution of sheltering behind anonymity and attacking the messenger – just how low will they sink in their gutter!

UKIP leadership may well be weak, useless, incompetent drunkards of no morality or gravitas but in fact it is the filth they have gathered around them forming the dung heap from the top of which they crow that do the most damage and provide the most ammunition for The EU. Filth like those I have named – none of whom does one ever see letters, eMails, articles, blogs or even entries on reputable Forums addressing the EU – they are all but invisible in the battle against membership of The EU, as are the mouthy dishonest liars like Stuart Parr and wee Farage’s children’s club of childish fans, ranging in age from 15-75!

Is there anyone left in UKIP who is not so tainted by association with these filth and with membership of The EFD and the endless scrabbling for personal gain – whether as a liar like Bannerman or Andreasen, a thief and a fraud like Agnew or Bannerman, a spineless self server like Coleman or Buffton, a fool like Bloom or Legge, a self serving venal twerp like Nuttal or Clark,l or an insecure strutting barrow boy like Farage capitalising as a schpieler.

At least Nattrass & Sinclaire had the morality to disassociate themselves from the filth in the dung heap and the vile chums of those on it!

Full marks to Sinclaire who is the ONLY UKIP MEP not just filling her bank account and actually trying her best, whilst under attack from the filth left in UKIP, to serve both her electorate and her Country – more visible to the public than the rest put together as she tries to acquit her constituency duties – fronts the defence against the invasion of Gypsies and land grabbers who quite openly flout planning laws and her Petition for an IN/OUT EU Referendum has been a tremendous achievement as she has funded it herself and driven it forward and even this the filth in UKIP attack as they have absolutely no interest visible in leaving The EU but a huge interest in protecting their income stream and status.

I’m glad of the occasional phonecall to tell me when the vile fools on Butcher’s forum say something of note – they may say what they like about me as everyone knows they are liars and I am not remotely important – I am not asking them to vote for me, I have absolutely no intertest in being a politician or joining ANY party.

A measure of the stupidity of the forum is that they make it very clear they can not refute a word I publish, they can not show a single solitary instance in 1,000s of blogs, 1,000s of forum postings and 1,000s of eMails plus 100s of pages of printed hand outs NOT ONE WORD can they show to be materially untrue, not one word is a lie, not one word is deliberately placed to mislead – they are so bereft of argument that they resort to attacking the messenger.

Yes I stated that I believe elected politicians who betray their Country are committing an act of treason and should face due provcess and even execution if the treason is grave. Yes I commented that I was glad to see someone standing up for their Country and its currency when the BBC announced that a Swedish politician had been attacked by a no campaigner in a shopping mall, in the belief that it was of the style of egg or tomato throwing.

YES I stood by my comment even when the BBC were still claiming it was a No Protester and the politician had died as morally violence in politics must accept the consequences of its action – I am tragicly sorry for her family and Swedish politics that she died and I do not accept murder by anyone be it a protester or the police.

I stood by my comment for several reasons – one that her death WAS a tragedy but an unexpected consequence of mild violence as the BBC was reporting it and I had unwisely endorsed that violence as reported and as I understood it – just as if you hit someone in self defence you MUST accept the consequences if you find they have an annurism of which neither you nor they know and it leads to a burst and death.

It being the run up to Christmas did someone in the US State department walk up to their old friend Richard Holbrook and give him a friendly bear hug that triggered his aeurtal annurism?

Finally as Skeptyk and all other informed individual NOW know the Swedish authorities and the BBC were seemingly deliberately misleading the public and it was not until AFTER the polls closed in Sweden that they let it be known that the unacceptable assault on Anna Lindh was NOT made by a NO Campaigner in their vote of destroying Swedish banking and The Kronner but was in fact a Sammi dissident in protest at the betrayal of The Sammi peoples by Anna Lindh.

I stood by the comment also based on the assurance that it would feature the fact of opposition to the EUro and loss of National identity, sovereignty and economic control on the front page of a major British broadsheet for the first time – which it did and there it has remained. If that means scum like Septic endlessly try to make their sad attacks frankly the damage done to The EU’s scams was well worth it – the issue was brought to the front page!

You may criticise the method but the sacrifice to achieve it was me and I consider my Country and liberty more important  and definitely more important than the views or opinions of cowards and filth like Skeptyk.

Keep shooting the messenger please it has no effect on me but it raises the profile of the FACTS I publish!

Regards,
Greg L-W.

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OK I’ve referred back to previous information and it is the time line that is all important in this story so pin back your ears skeptyk because I’ll say this only once!

1.Day one Friday the BBC announce that while Anna Lindh was campaigning to scrap the Krona for the Euro she was attacked by a no campaigner. NO more deatils were given as at that stage none were known.

2. Based on this information alone GLW comments that it was good to hear that at last somebody was prepared to stand up for their currency and included this comment in a long e-mail about countries having to give up their currencies for the Euro.

3. Foggo reacts to GLW’s e-mail and feels this would make a good story. He agrees for it to be on page 3 with a further supportive article near the middle of the paper by another jounalist. The article was to include a quote form GLW saying something like “Politicians who betray their country after DUE PROCESS should be executed.”

4. Day two Saturday – Foggo informs GLW that she has died from a stab wound. GLW had no idea she had been stabbed and thought she had had an egg thrown at or something.

5.Day three Sunday the article is run but the sub-editor to ‘spice it up’ leaves out from GLW’s quote the words DUE PROCESS.

6.Foggo rings GLW to offer an apology which he says will be printed next week but GLW declines this offer feeling an apology buried deep in the paper is hardly worth it. He now admits he stupidly made a mistake not to accept the apology.

7. Protestor turns out to be a Sami from Lapland and not a No campaigner who atacked Anna Lindh for her bretrayal of the Sami’s for selling off their land to logging companies and mining interests.

So IMO not the best bit of PR GLW has ever had given people’s abiltiy to only see or hear what they want to but the over riding issue still is not the man but his ball.

Has GLW ever said anything about UKIP which is not true?

Last edited by Niall Warry; Today at 05:08 PM.


FOR THE RECORD ADDED 23:57hrs.

here is the article from The Sunday Telegraph 7 years ago & for the record:

Eurosceptic hails Lindh murder

A prominent British Eurosceptic has described the murder of the Swedish foreign minister Anna Lindh as the act of a “patriot” and called upon other anti-euro campaigners to be prepared to take similar action against government figures here.
Police are investigating whether Greg Lance-Watkins, who runs EuroRealist, an internet site which is virulently against Britain’s membership of the EU, has acted illegally.
Ms Lindh, 46, a leading proponent of the pro-euro campaign in Sweden which culminates today in a referendum on whether to join the currency, was stabbed by an unknown assailant four days ago. Mr Lance-Watkins has issued a statement welcoming the attack on Ms Lindh.
He calls British ministers “traitors” for signing away the UK’s sovereignty and says they should be tried for treason.
In e-mails sent to a variety of organisations, he said: “I do hope there will be patriots in Britain with the courage to deal with traitors that has been shown in Sweden.
“If our corrupt politicians force us to take the same route to defend our economy and country . . . then I suggest the first patriot to take direct action is remembered by putting his or her statue on the remaining plinth in Trafalgar Square.” A spokesman for Gwent Police said: “We will look at these e-mails to see if there is anything of a criminal nature.”
Last night Mr Lance-Watkins stood by his comments. “Yes, I do support the execution of elected politicians when they seek to betray the electorate and their country,” he said.

To view the original article CLICK HERE

NOW STUDY THE FACTS:

Eurosceptic hails Lindh murder

Title written NOT by Daniel Foggo but by sub editor for front page attention. AFTER DF had left for the weekend.

Do NOTE the time & date DF filed HIS story – one minute past midnight on Saturday morning.

A prominent British Eurosceptic has described the murder of the Swedish foreign minister Anna Lindh as the act of a “patriot” and called upon other anti-euro campaigners to be prepared to take similar action against government figures here.

My statement to DF was regarding the attack as reported by the BBC as I had received the information originally – The BBC stated the Minister had been attacked by a No Campaigner on the Wednesday evening with no further relevant details.

Police are investigating whether Greg Lance-Watkins, who runs EuroRealist, an internet site which is virulently against Britain’s membership of the EU, has acted illegally.

As was obvious to them some low life mischief maker had phoned the Police relative to my eMail – of course no meaningful investigation took place and the malicious phonecall was ignored – I personally checked with the police at the time.

Ms Lindh, 46, a leading proponent of the pro-euro campaign in Sweden which culminates today in a referendum on whether to join the currency, was stabbed by an unknown assailant four days ago.

The assailant was I understand known to the police in Sweden as a Sammi dissident and was I understand arrested on the day of the attack.

Interestingly neither Daniel Foggo nor I were aware of any mention of any other culprit until AFTER the polls closed in the surrender referendum and the line was maintained by the Swedish Government and I understand The BBC that the attack was by a No Campaigner seemingly for the sympathy vote for the betrayal of Sweden.

Mr Lance-Watkins has issued a statement welcoming the attack on Ms Lindh.

CORRECT – when aware that an attack had taken place I was under the impression from the BBC reports that the equivalent of someone throwing an egg at her had occurred and it was not until Daniel phoned me, on, as I recall, the Friday that I became aware of the severity of the assault.

He calls British ministers “traitors” for signing away the UK’s sovereignty and says they should be tried for treason.

CORRECT – I stand by this statement and British politicians and their political class and apparatchiks have dishonestly and unlawfully betrayed the peoples and Country of Britain in clear and irrefutable betrayal of The British Constitution as in Magna Carta and every single amendment allowable or made to it since.

In e-mails sent to a variety of organisations, he said: “I do hope there will be patriots in Britain with the courage to deal with traitors that has been shown in Sweden.

CORRECT – And so I do to this day in the context of the severity of the attack as and when I made the comment based upon the reporting and style of report of the BBC radio at the time (I do not have a TV nor have I had for 15 years). 

“If our corrupt politicians force us to take the same route to defend our economy and country . . . then I suggest the first patriot to take direct action is remembered by putting his or her statue on the remaining plinth in Trafalgar Square.”

I believe this to be a good and effective use of the 4th. plinth most other statuary in London is of honourable men and women who defended these United Kingdoms, minded that no serious crime was involved in the defence of our currency and peoples.

A spokesman for Gwent Police said: “We will look at these e-mails to see if there is anything of a criminal nature.”

You will note the comment ‘IF’ and the fact that he is commenting relative to ‘e’Mails written in the clear belief that no injury of note had been caused as per the BBC reports at the time.

Last night Mr Lance-Watkins stood by his comments. “Yes, I do support the execution of elected politicians when they seek to betray the electorate and their country,” he said.

CORRECT – Minded of the use of the word ‘execution’ which would clearly have a legal connotation and be the outcome of due process for treason which was unlawfully set aside by politicians to prevent them from this risk of due process – it will be noted the majority of the public believe it is the duty of the state to protect the innocent mebers of the state and the country by Judicious use of a death penalty.

Anna Lindh was, with the benefit of hindsight, fatally stabbed during the afternoon of Wednesday 10-Sep-2010.

I issued my ‘e’Mail based upon the BBC news report that gave absolutely no indication it was a severe attack on the evening of 10-Sep-2010

I became aware that Anna Lindh had tragically died on Friday the 12-Sept-2010 when Daniel Foggo phoned to tell me and offered to pull the article. I understand the BBC announced the tragic death of Anna Lindh late on Thursday 11-Sept-2010 long after strenuous efforts were made, involving near constant transfussion and well over 9 hours of surgery time. There had been a period when they thought they had saved her life and she rallied only subsequently to require further surgery and I understand she died in surgery.

These details were given to me by two of the 3 Swedish Newspapers that phoned me 2 on the Sunday and one on the Monday – All three journalists considered, in the light of the facts, that it was an understandable error leading to a non story. They also informed me that even most of the media in Sweden were led to believe that the assailant was a No Campaigner until deadlines had passed for the closing of the ballot!

Two of the journalists said they knew and were in touch with the family and when asked to pass on my condollences personally assured me they would. On the Monday a phone call was made by an official from Sweden who thanked me for the condollences as they had been passed on to the family and explained the Swedish authorities had no interest in the report and understood the time lines.

The outcome and reasoning was as published above. Daniel Foggo brought the article up to date with wording he read to me on Saturday afternoon 13-Sep-2010.

The sub editor appended the sensationalist headline beyond the control of Daniel Foggo and made what he considered suitable minor alterations.

I have heard absolutely nothing further of this matter other than when the corrupt and dishonest seek to make capital out of selective representation in what is clearly a dishonest and cowardly way – all too often sheltering their dishonourable behaviour behind anonymity knowing that their reprehensible behaviour at the time, let alone seven years later brings shame on their identity which they thus hide.

I expect filth who can not honourably deal with the truth I publish on this and utter matters will seek out any filth they can concoct to try to defame the messenger – they seem not to be bright enough to realise the harm it does them each time as they wriggle and wheedle to make an issue of an event with absolutely no relevance to the facts they can not dispel.

Any individual of any morality or integrity will be aware that to attack the messenger in default of the message – the man instead of the ball – demeans the attacker and strenthens the message – those witjh an ability to lead evidence to overturn information are in the main respected but those who lead no consequential material in an attack on the man rather than the ball are rightly held in contempt by honourable men and women.

Failure to show that I have EVER deliberately and wittingly lied or misled whilst too cowardly to put their name to their attacks shows the depths to which such filth will sink in defence of their income or status.

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#0206* – Julian ADAMS Remanded in Custody & The Filth That is UKIP Leadership

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/12/2010

#0206* – Julian ADAMS Remanded in Custody & The Filth That is UKIP Leadership
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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Julian ADAMS Remanded in Custody to appear again on 30-Dec-2010!
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Hi,

sorry didn’t find much time and the Court wasn’t covered by the usual stringers as none of the papers seem to have felt a story about UKIP worth covering – all too common! I understand that Justin Adams was remanded in custody until 30-Dec-2010 – a search on this blog in the search box at the top of the Right Sidebar will take you to other articles on the matter as will reading The Farage Blog CLICK HERE.

I was amused to get a phone call to tell me that the idiotic Skeptyk having struggled endlessly with their collective brain cell these cowards wisely hide their unpleasant largely dishonest postings in cowardly insecurity. It seems whether the proven liar and dishonourable Mark Croucher, the foul mouthed Annabelle Fuller who I understand manages Farages FaceBook and other items (so I am told but can not confirm), Clive Page, Ray Finch, Gawain Towler who much cares I for one do not read their stuff often and only once bothered to visit their sordid and dishonest web shite as it is clearly largely lies and needlessly vile.

Whatever – clearly not one of the people who have drawn the title of contributor to Septic but it is all too clear they are ashamed of their contribution and make no claim to contribute to it. No surprise there then!

you will note these pond life who choose not to be associated one with the other in their damage to UKIP for their own gain – they to date, despite distortion and misrepresentation have proved completely incapable of identifying a single solitary deliberately misleading posting I have made – nor a single accidental lie let alone deliberate lie of consequence. This does not however prevent them dragging UKIP into their gutter of lies and distortions – of course they can take it in turns to deny they are one or other of the contributors!

Clearly in acting as a whistle blower (a concept UKIP’s leaderships seems not to understand) leads those posting as Junius and supplying the information, often through me as I do know that those in Junius do not know who each contributor is, thus I can supply facts to one without the other knowing which is handy – as with Geoffrey Collier’s version of Farage’s begging letter. May I add – as I said in handling the letter I did NOT notice the poor redaction so  be fair I can not confirm it came from G.C. – though I am prepared to accept the irrelevant clever Dick comments of the childishly named Baron and Septic team. Of course G.C. has confirmed it was his copy.

Since this letter was, I assume, mailed out to each member who Farage’s team believe they can boost money out of – he had rather better hope they will donate more than he Farage has in 17 years!

I also gather the cowardly Septic team in desperation to denigrate me and clearly aware they can not find a single lie I have told in almost 15 years of supporting UKIP and exposing the lies and corruption of its leadership team that have ensured they may well have acquired £Millions they have never clearly accounted how they have seemingly stolen it nor have they achieved anything whatsoever to move these United Kingdoms one inch closer to the door – that Farage whether dressed as a chicken, drunk in gutters, habituating testicular cancer – blowing up toys, posturing in armoured cars on trailers – Just what HAS UKIP leadership done of ANY value to Britain as they betrayed our country for personal gain.

Perhaps someone can point me at the serious and well reasoned exit and survival strategy UKIP’s indollent leadership has produced.

Perhaps someone can aim us at a single well produced and clear reasoned pamphlet showing the benefits of leaving the EU.

All one can see is filth like Sceptic, scum like Croucher, trash like Fuller, fraudsters like Page, deviants like Towler, fantasists like Denny, liars like McTrough and insecure little men like Farage with no dignity, no breeding, no gravitas and the respect of no one of consequence – a trained performing monkey attracting more articles and column inches for his sad personality and insecurity manifest through drink and phillandering.

All that fools like Baron, Independent, Septic and the trash that are UKIP’s leadership can do is abuse its members befoul the name of UKIP and ensure that its supporters are provided with ZERO campaigning, nil vision and a total lack of training or leadership.

Imagine just how vile UKIP leadership and its parasites have become that it drives away donors, activists, supporters, grafters and all they are left with are posturing little men of no consequence and less ability.

Not only are UKIP leadership and its parasites the McTroughs, Dennys, Reeves, Smiths, Buftons and their ilk useless, self serving, dishonest and corrupt but they have gone out of their way to sweep the gutters of EUropean politics to gather all that is filth to join them that they can!

Would the likes of Junius, Warry, West, myself, Collier make such efforts to try to clean up UKIP to make it possibly electable were we other than UKIP supporters disgusted by the behaviour of its leadership and parasites – I believe we would more readily have walked away by now had our support and dedication been less – even Mike Nattrass has already miked off for his Christmas holiday!

Look at the long list of supporters driven off by the crass incompetence of the leadership and its parasites and the completely embarrassing incompetent behaviour of the trash of UKIP management they are clearly a part of the problem and absolutely no part of the solution look at the short list of those who left – decent hard working individuals of substance and ability CLICK HERE replaced by scum like Septic, Denny, Croucher, Towler, Mctrough, Coleman, Andreasen, Bannerman, Agnew, Booth, Nuttall, Bufton, Dartmouth/Legge – not a leader amongst them – not a man of stature in sight – not an individual of ability not one has shone through as anything of ANY value the sweepings of failure!

Their only way to raise themselves from the gutter would seem to be to try to damage others and drag them into their gutter.

May I remind individuals of integrity, probity and dignity that for all their thrashing around – having rooted and routed their way through my entire history they have not found a single item of consequence they can hold up to defame me with one iota of integrity.

Desperately they distort and lie – yes I have a conviction under section one firearms from 30 years ago when an American girlfriend accidentally imported a hand gun and 50 rounds of ammo – SO WHAT!

Then these cowards misrepresent the fact that based on an unsound report of the BBC relative to an assault on a Swerdish politician I commented to try to bring the matter of opposition to The EUro onto the front page of a Broadsheet paper for the very first time – that the politician SUBSEQUENTLY died was a tragedy, but the real offence is that the trash in UKIP and similar set out to exploit that tragedy for their personal gain.

Now we have the filth that shelters in shame as Septic trying to pretend I would threaten to kill Farage or try to talk Justin Adams to do so – it clearly surprises Septic since who the hell would wish to associate with such filth as they, in fact they are so ashamed of their behaviour that they hide their identity – yet they have so little understanding of morality, integrity and trust that they can not understand why people who seek to clean up UKIP contact me on a regular basis. Yes Justin Adams phone me – it is not for me to divulge why other than to have made the comments which he was happy for me to repeat regarding the behaviour of Farage and his personal injuries. Yet filth like Septic seek to distort this fantasising and seeking to imply my actions were anything other than 100% honourable.

It is interesting when I published the facts of Farage’s behaviour in the plane and subsequent to the crash that his fan club were unwilling to publicise this – nor on the many occasions when I have pointed out Farage’s abilities (limited as they are) nor are they able to show that I am or have ever been a supporter of UKIP – risibly they even pretend I am pro EU membership the scum that they are.

The trash in UKIP have lied and tried to portray my business as having gone bankrupt when it in fact closed when EU money was squandered by our Labour Council in the trashing of Chepstow in a manner that destroyed the shopping center at a time when I was battling to recover from major organ cancer – what brave liars the UKIP trash are!

Glance Back Books carried around 60,000 secondhand and antiquarian titles, 2M stamps, 60,000 postcards, 10,000 collectors coins, worldwide & antique banknotes, about 75,000 antiquarian prints and maps also documents back to the 1400s , we own the building, I have no debts, we sold another building we owned to fund our own defence against the lies of UKIP leaving us owed £12,500 by UKIP by any moral standards, Mark Croucher acting with Paul Nuttall and Clive Page LOST their attempt to bankrupt me in The British Courts and Mark Croucher was ordered by the Court to pay me £8,500 and the dishonourable piece of filth that he is has not honoured debt or the Courts!

Further I have NEVER made a single political posting in any name but my own – even on Forums and YouTube I ensure I can be identified and I will stand by my word on every issue ALWAYS willing to make correction if I EVER accidentally post something untrue.

I note another coward using anonymity behind which to lie has stated:

Lance-Watkins tends to aim to deceive of course but I see he has been allowed to comment by his europhile Junius friends as follows:

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?bl…01132934927657

Hi,

May I make a public apology to Geoffrey Collier as it seems in handling the letter that Junius has published I failed to note the redaction was inadequate and I am pleased to say I used the copy I received through membership elsewhere!

Regards,
Greg_L-W
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I refute this cowardly critics lies – I have NEVER ONCE aimed to deceive ANYONE in my life but identifying a coward hidden by anonimity ashamed of his own postings as a liar is a fairly fruitless effort! Rather like standing in something unpleasant it is wise to scrape it off one’s shoe and move on.

You will be aware that Douglas Denny has habitually lied about me, about Niall Warry and about himself to seem important – you will also be aware that I have offered again and again to meet liars like Douglas Denny, david Bannerman, Stuart Agnew and the rest of the trash that have destroyed UKIP and dragged it in their gutter – just how far must they be seen to go:

You will note it was he who published his boasts of his own perverse sexual behaviour and his wife whose exposure of his far more grave perversions were published on her web site when he was deselected by The South West committee – including the risible Elizabeth Burton in her dottage – only to be completely ignored by Farage as democracy and minimum standards are not in UKIP’s lexicon just as they have no plan, no training, no morality, no probity, no transparency, no leadership just the solids that have floated to the top in a particularly unsavoury Septic tank of filth that are the parasites exploiting UKIP and betraying and destroying their moral and principled origins and membership base where the majority of informed morality have already quit in disgust!

 
Has UKIP ever won a Court Case other than appeal against their own stupidity – yet they still have a number of outstanding cases against them under investigation – they are a profligate farce – How could ANYONE with ANY integrity advocate that a single Patriot vote for their lies, chavvery and self serving abuse of supporters and these United Kingdoms for their own gain.
 
How does UKIP manage to attract such scum yet seemingly deliberately force out those of competence CLICK HERE.

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#0205* – ‘Tis The Sport To see The Engineers Hoist On Their Own Petard – UKIP IS BLOWING UP!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/12/2010

#0205* – ‘Tis The Sport To see The Engineers Hoist On Their Own Petard – UKIP IS BLOWING UP!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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‘Tis The Sport To see The Engineers Hoist On Their Own Petard – UKIP IS BLOWING UP!
Can it really be that there is absolutely no one of integrity, stature, probity or vision left in UKIP!!
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Hi,

having written several 1,000 blog entries and at least the same again as eMails and a huge number of postings on Forums and YouTube around the world – all without exception in opposition to membership of the malign and malevolent EU, wherever possible. Having published and distributed 10s of 1,000s of leaflets opposing Britain’s membership of the EU, having taken a trenchant stand against racism, be that based on colour, creed, ethnicity or superstition and having reported many 1,000s of originally researched (mostly minor) facts and details – it is strange to have tables turned!

I am advised that I have become the news on Anthony Butcher‘s squalid forum which provides a platform for liars and low lifes like Croucher, McTrough, Fuller, Denny, Padmore and their ilk and no end of cowardly filth sheltering behind anonymity too ashamed to put their names to their drivel and their lies. I of course was banned for telling the truth! Butcher even went to the lengths of hunting through the evidence in his own archive that shows him for a liar and removing it – further he has removed factual comments on instruction from UKIP to currie favour with them and provides an endless platform for their dishonesties unchallenged as with the lies and fantasies of Denny & the cowardly liars Baron von Lotsov, Skeptyk.

We can be fairly sure that the FACTS I lead on this blog will be denied space amongst the filth on his forum – I gather to even link to the facts on this blog can lead to being banned for telling the truth on Butcher’s forum yet the gutless little worm  is too dishonest to address the truth, apologise for his dishonesty or even broker a level playing field – Butcher is clearly no gem amongst the filth but very much at home as he slithers from idea to idea sitting emasculated on the fence as a figure of fun to be mocked by all as he has clearly failed to please all however much he may prostitute his own integrity.

What GLW says about UKIP is right.
While I have always maintained that I don’t approve or agree with everything Greg says or especially the way he says it at times the facts remain that as far as UKIP is concerned what he has said and written is right.
Here is a man who publishes under his own name on his many Blogs, with full contact details, unlike many on this forum, so he is always prepared to stand by what he has said.

He has been a prolific advocate of UKIP over the years but like many of us has always maintained Nige€’s strengths are only as media spokesman and most certainly NOT as leader.

On his Blog ‘UKIP-vs-EUKIP’ (which replaced ‘Caterpillars and Butterflies’ in June this year) he starts every post with:-

Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! .
The corruption of EUkip’s leadership,
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
If what Greg say is not true UKIP have had ample chance to hold him to account but the best they have done is through Mark Croucher, who took him to court over the copyright of a photograph of Nige€ he used on one of his many Blogs.
Croucher funked the court appearance and the Judge found in Greg’s favour. So the ONLY time UKIP have taken Greg to court, and then NOTHING to do with anything he said, they completely failed and I believe have still to settle the costs as directed.

So despite the constant criticisms and attacks on him and his character UKIP haven’t been able to prove anything Greg says is not true.

Yes he is very uncompromising and rude at times but that doesn’t make what he says incorrect or wrong.

Surely it will be a sorry day when the way someone says something is considered more important than what is actually said.

One of the things I so hate about our current political elite is that they pussy foot around problems scared stiff that they may upset the Guardian reading types of the BBC. At least Greg, love him or loath him, tells it how it is.

If anyone can prove anything Greg has said over the years is factually incorrect please feel free to say so below.

 To view the original of this article as posted CLICK HERE

IF you can stomach the self serving lies and vituperative attempts of proven idiots like Mick McTrough, Douglas Denny, and the cowardly Baron von Lotsov with his ill informed and childish opinions – read on.

We start out reading Mick McTrough a proven liar, cheat and low life trying to point score by making a statement of the blindingly obvious – as if it could matter less that I have adopted a family name as a legal part of my surname  – a fact I have always made clear ever since I did so at about the age of 11 or 12 to differentiate myself from other Watkins in my school and social group – Lance sure beat being Watkins Minimus or Watkins Minor!!!

Perhaps it was the confidence to take such stands as a small child that did not leave me so insecure I felt a need to lie as an adult – you will recal Mick McTrough lied about being UKIP’s CHOSEN/ELECTED ppc for Harlow in order to try to cheat and get a place as an MEP. This slime ball is the very one who betrayed the party and the trust it put in him by publishing private and confidential correspondence he was entrusted with.

This is the piece of filth who would turn up to the opening of an envelope if he could score points, this is the dishonest charlatan who covered for the lies and dishonesty of Smith when he was professionally incompetent to keep the UKIP accounts as treasurer and legged it at speed when exposed for his dishonesty leaving his dupe Mike McGough to cover his sordid trail.

Just think the depths of depravity UKIP has sunk to when you look at the staggering ineptitude and low grade slimes that form its NEC.

Another low life on the NEC who has tried to elevate himself at my expense with lies and fantasies is Douglas Denny – a proven liar, a pathetic failure and now he sinks to the very depths trying to pass blame dishonestly on a man, who unlike him, gave valuable service to UKIP and the body politic, for all his human frailties. Yet now he is dead at under 60, Douglas Denny feels brave enough to befoul his name based on the word of a proven liar, scoundrell and hired filth Mark Croucher – who can not even honour his debts to the British Courts when found colluding with Clive Page and Paul Nuttall to be legally wrong – this is indeed the caliber of UKIP particularly with a performing monkey as its so called leader!

Virtually not a single one of the sad sick wee Douglas Denny‘s fanciful claims stands up to a moment scrutiny but that does not stop him telling lies about decent folk – even the dead no longer able to defend themselves against his and Mark Croucher’s lies.

Then we have some fool claiming that I used information supplied to me by Nigel Farage to betray that trust and publish it on the internet. So it is clear Denny and his chums on the NEC have absolutely no faith in their own so called leader – they don’t trust him out of their sight yet they would wish the public to applaud this odious fool and vote for him!

I doubt Farage has the integrity or moral fiber to speak out and rebuke Douglas Denny, Mark Croucher, Mike McTrough, or any of the other filth he has forming the dung heap from on top of which he crows like the farm yard rooster the ornamental poppinjay of UKIP.

Some would wish to gather the strong the competent, the honest, the able and the courages to their team to stand on the shoulders of giants whilst Farage gathers the sweepings and the sh*t of the political farm yard to form his platform.

For all that we can be sure he is surrounded by liars and low lifes and he is little better merely more preened and better able to crow in short bursts for Youtube – he lacks the integrity to publicly speak out and control the filth around him nor has he the moral fiber to speak out and proclaim the truth – that I have NEVER ONCE betrayed a trust nor ever once told a consequential and deliberate lie about UKIP or anyone in UKIP.

Now perhaps we could look at this cowardly bufoon Baron von Lotsov and his foolish fantasies – on the matter of Common Purpose I was addressing its foundations in The Moral Majority long before little Brian Gerrish had even got his commission to harrass the British Fishing Fleet from his wee plastic washing up bowl with a crew of few! It is astonishing howmany have fallen for the Red October image of the dweeb – he is no Sean Connery and he never commanded any vessel of consequence. As Roger Helmer rightly put it ‘He was duped into introducing Brian Gerrish ONCE’ why are we not surprised he was duped at the last minute by Edward Spalton!!

Brian Gerrish is no more than a low grade charlatan a snake oil salesman basing himself on a David Icke image with a sad and unreliable self published fools comic – The UK Column has lost its journalistic flow and has succumbed to crass editing since Brian Gerrish seized control over it from David Noakes leadling to the loss of two very valuable publications for The EUroRealist movement as the Westminster Column shut down as a result of Gerrish and the 80,000+ bi monthly UK Column collapsed to about 40,000 every so often and is mostly left behind in heaps at gatherings of the lunatic fringe – seen as a conspiracy comic based on unsourced and unsound journalism and the fantasy tales of those Brian Gerrish can exploit such as Hollie greig or idiotic tales of CONdensation Trails from planes being chemicals sprayed by the government for no proven purpose by no proven people comprising no proven chemical – even Biggles would have balked at that!

I dip into Anthony Butcher‘s squalid and dishonest forum ever less frequently to watch the pond life of UKIP squabble and preen to eachother with the team effort of scum like Skeptyk, the befouling under foot by Mick McGough, the vile commentaries of the foul mouthed Annabelle Fuller, the posturing and lies of Mark Croucher and of course the posturing of the anonymous cowards.

Douglas Denny is right in essence if not in substance when he says:

‘No one gives a toss about GLW’.

It should of course read ‘
‘No one should gives a toss about GLW’
 
Yet it is clear from the many 1,000s of words Douglas Denny alone has invented about me in his desperation to misrepresent and try to undermine the constant flow of factual and verifiable information I have provided regarding UKIP and their abysmal and treacherous failure to provide a single campaign, one shred of vision, an iota of integrity or even a smidgeon of hope even for the gullible in defence of these United Kingdoms.  
 
So busy is the sad little fool trying to undermine me with his fanciful stories and endless inventions, his childish postulations and inane lack of comprehension of what is going on around him that the damage he and his chums have done to The EUroRealist movement in fracturing it and failing to nurture any part of it save the bank accounts and platforms of their little band of corrupt filth in UKIP.
On the one hand we have UKIP’s NEC proclaiming it does not trust Farage, yet on the other it invites in filth and proven liars like Denny, Croucher, McTrough, Bannermam, Hugh Williams, George Curtis, Paul Nuttall, Derek Clark – in fact would you trust ANYONE on your own UKIP NEC with any task requiring both competence and integrity – I sure to hell wouldn’t, not one.
I know politics is renowned for attracting inadequates and self seekers but UKIP clearly has the sweepings and the gutter outfall.
Yet even so they pretend to be achieving something of value – that is just how delusional they are.

UKIP are a party of the problem with no role in the solution – just one cockerel crowing on a dung heap and even then it is as a party best known for his cock left dreaming of ‘Fighting Bull’!

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#0199* ~~ HELLO! 28-Nov-2010

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 28/11/2010

#0199* ~~ HELLO! 28-Nov-2010 
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!  
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I do apologise for a lack of information as I have been unable to keep myself or you up to date for a while!.

Late on Saturday 20th. or the early hours of Sunday 21st. both my BT Telephone and my BT Broadband line CRASHED, Vanished, ceased, failed and became what monty python would describe as ‘A Non Connection’.

The Internet & phone vanishing at the same time proved a major inconvenience and living in Chepstow, where ALL mobile phone connection signals are poor to say the least and as our building has stone walls at least 3 foot thick our signal is such that we do not bother with mobiles. I have never seen myself as at the back and call of others anyway, so have little interest in mobiles!

Anyway – now I’m back on line I’ll try to play catchup – although much is useless I still have to plough my way through the average 200+ eMails I get a day and must check across the many blogs I write or contribute to so I expect it to take the best part of a week to catch up.

I do hope you all saw the article I put at CLICK HERE
Also worth noting was CLICK HERE
& TODAY I have added CLICK HERE

In brief – now that I have the phone & broadband back I’ll be up and running properly soon and will aim – as ever – to supply the VERRIFIABLE, CHECKABLE, FACT BASED NEWS about EUkip and the idiocy and incompetence of its self serving leadership and their parasites – who have done so much to undermine the EUroRealuist movement with their self enriching self serving antics as they squabble like ferrets in a sack!

NEVER FORGET that in approaching 2,000 postings on the internet about UKIP – Never ONCE has it been shown that I have done or written a single solitary posting that was not in support of the aims of the genuine members of UKIP or the principles on which it was founded – furthermore never once have I been asked to make a correction of any substance by any individual as EVERY posting I have made has been shown to be materially accurate and factually correct.

There would be no point in this blog if the media and members who read it could not count on the reliability of the FACTS which I have provided.

Unlike the filth published by pond life and sluts like Annabelle Fuller, Mark Croucher, Gawain Towler, Douglas Denny, Mick McTrough, Stuart Parr and their ilk I have derived absolutely zero personal or financial gain by publishing my blogs – Further I have made a point of publishing the TRUTH and have NEVER set out to cheat or defraud people by publishing outright lies unlike Lord Pearson, Douglas Denny, Mark Croucher, Stuart Agnew, David Bannerman, Marta Andreasen etc.

IF I have EVER published an item you may count on its accuracy (but not the spelling 😉 – ANYONE who notes an error or verrifiable inaccuracy in ANYTHING I publish PLEASE contact me so that I can make the relevant correction.

Thanks – Sorry about the missing week – I’ll try to infil;l iover the next few days!

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#0195* – Mick McTROUGH HAS PROVED A MOST APPOSITE NAME FOR UKIP’s Mike McGOUGH.

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 18/11/2010

#0195* – Mick McTROUGH HAS PROVED A MOST APPOSITE NAME FOR UKIP’s Mike McGOUGH!
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Mick McTROUGH HAS PROVED A MOST APPOSITE NAME FOR UKIP’s Mike McGOUGH!
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what a sad reflection on the filth that form UKIP’s NEC under Farage – I note I am lied about and defamed by the proven liar, fraud and cheat Mick McTrough.

Rather similar to the wonderfull parliamentary soubriquette of being ‘Savaged by a wet sheep’.

The responsible maturity of this egregious piece of filth Mick McTrough speaks volumes of UKIP and its position in the vangaurd of EUroScepticism – the few decent folk left in UKIP must be so ashamed of the obvious collapse of the party into such a lack of competence and integrity when all its vile executives can do is lie, defame and mount dishonest ad hominem attacks like spoilt children thwarted.

How proud a party of their ilk must be to read the bile filled ranting of a deranged member of their executive!

Greasy Loony Big Girl’s Ponytail Whatshefor wo is closely associated with the juniarse crowd is homophobic.He was so desperate to let me know that his ‘partner’ LEE was female he phoned me especially, which I found most touching.This contrasts with his grooming of young ex UKIP no marks such as book stamper TIM (nasty and dim).

ps whtever did happen to the sums collected by the Major in support of Tim’s bus fares?.
 

Be minded that Mick McTrough has been proven beyond any shadow of doubt to be a liar, a bully, a cheat and without any understanding of morality or ethics.

I care not what the fools says about me as I am not in any way material – I merely act as a commentator – I do not seek either his praise or his vote – nor do I function on his largess nor money scrounged from a membership – this oik Mick McTrough is a liar and shows himself to be yet again – demeaning UKIP as ever!

Perhaps McTrough if he werte to lift his snout from the gains as a parasite of the gravy train might care to place in the public domain his provenance and recording of the phone call he claims I made for the sole purpose of establishing that my partner of 25 years standing was female. Mick McTrough is a liar as I couldn’t care less what filth like he believe.

Ever the coward we note McTrough who even lied about being UKIP elected PPC for Harlow to con members of the party into voting for him in the corrupt and rigged selection process in his greed to become noticed on the ladder to the troughs for an MEP.

Mick McTrough‘s dishonesty was so notable the UKIP Officially appointed Returning Officer advocated a re-run of the selection and vote as he had so materially corrupted the process with others – To read the denouncement of McTrough CLICK HERE
For more details of this revolting little man CLICK HERE – Filth isn’t he and he represents UKIP in much the same style of dishonesty and fancifull lies as Douglas Denny, also sadly befouling UKIP’s NEC – A shamefull little liar and cheat who was so discreditted he was dumped by the majority of the UKIP NEC in a vote for his dishonesty and efforts to corrupt an internal election for Nigel Farage.

Perhaps this piece of filth Mick McTrough would care to show where I have EVER made a single statement or taken a single action that justifies his politically correct claims that I am in any way homophobic. I actively campaigned in the 1960s for the decriminalisation of the perversions of homosexuality witjhin the framework of law for their decency and protection.

I have NEVER opposed the legalisation and subsequent legality of the perversion of homosexuality protected within the framework of law, at any time in my life.

Mick McTrough is a liar but is unlikely to have sufficient self respect to withdraw his lies and apologise.

Let us conside what this offensive failed little man then goes on to demean UKIP by ionvolving them in as an executive of the Farage Fan Club – His side swipe at Tim – one wonders if Tim has ever asked him for anything that might justify his playground bullying.

This excrescence of humanity who quite typically has deliberately leaked confidential correspondence with Gerard Batten that he dishonestly accessed – to further demean UKIP now we note seeks to defame Major Warry who has done more for UKIP let alone our Country than filth like McTrough have ever or could ever do. As a point of interest perhaps he would define when Major warry ever collected money for Tim. If he is trying to conflate Tim with John West might it not be more apposite to show his provenance and have more integrity to state his claim.

The cowardly little filth opts for a schneid remark based upon no fact.

Had he stated he meant the monies raised to assist John West in his attempts to obtain justice – anyone who donated to that fund for Justice can most clearly hold their head up with dignity unlike filth like McTrough who were happy to see an individual lied about, defamed and abused and even in McTrough‘s case join in the bullying to buy favour with the filth that are the so called leadership of UKIP.

To that question had McTrough had the integrity and courage to ask it the answer seems simple – How much or what it was used for is absolutely none of your grubby cowardly business just as it is none of anyone elses business who gave money or how much. That John West won his case against UKIP in Court – that Peter Reeve & Jonathan Arnott were shown for the low life fools they are is sufficient provenance that the fund was well spent.

That UKIP was censured by the Information Commissioner under Data Protection Laws speaks volumes of how unfit UKIP and its leadership are for public office of ANY description.

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SK-H184 – UKIP & CONJECTURE ON THE BACKGROUND TO HIGH COURT ACTION

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/11/2010

SK-H184 – UKIP & CONJECTURE ON THE BACKGROUND TO HIGH COURT ACTION!
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UKIP & CONJECTURE ON THE BACKGROUND TO HIGH COURT ACTION!
A Measure Of The Idiocy Of UKIP, Farage & Bloom:
Is that they have CREATED this mess, as Sinclaire has studiously avoided ever using either a gender or minority card for her personal advancement!
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Friday, 5 November 2010

Legal action announced

Today at a press conference in Westminster, I announced with regret that I have been driven to take legal action against UKIP, Nigel Farage MEP and Godfrey Bloom MEP in the High Court and the Employment Tribunal.

The high court action is in relation to UKIP breaching it’s own Constitution and party rules. The ET claim relates to discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation. I feel that I have been unfairly treated by the leadership of UKIP because I stood up for my principles. It is especially disturbing and offensive as my colleague, Mike Nattrass MEP has received no sanction despite leaving the EFD group for the same reasons. .
It is interesting to note how life is what gets in the way of plans – I understand that the intent was to announce this immediately after Busak had agreed to investigate the abuse case against Godfrey Bloom MEP since there was well witnessed and corroborated evidence of that in The Parliament building. That would have made it a week earlier.

However I gather there was a delay of some sort with the Court papers pertaining to UKIP, Farage & Bloom so the lawyers suggested last Monday.

It seems pretty clear that the original delay was to ensure that the High Court action was not used as a tool in the leadership placement, since it was a virtual certainty Farage would be put in place – what a sad reflection on UKIP!

I AM reading between lines when I hazard the guess that being a dedicated devotee of the principles of UKIP members, if not the sleaze of UKIP leadership Sinclaire may well have had some feint hope of Tim Congdon being fairly elected and the possibility that he might have set out to strengthen UKIP by seeking out those of ability who have left due to the antics of Farage and his dishonourable parasites
Had that been the caseand the brains of the party and its activists considered rejoining to assist Congdon then clearly Sinclaire would have wished to help UKIP rather than take the step of taking them to Court as an effort to clean the party up by exposing the truth as to how vile they actually are.
This then left the Monday as the option – however as those who read her news letters will realise on Monday Tuesday and Wednesday last week Sinclaire was acquitting her duties as an RAF Officer MEP in Norfolk. So I presume that left Thursday to finalise the papers for a Press Conference on the Friday – thereby making sure she had NOT influenced the coronation and could not be seen as being vindictive by acting after the Coronation of Farage, I presume hence the relatively early morning event based on the possibility of a noon announcement.
Those of us who have observed Sinclaire’s career over many years will appreciate three things –
firstly she has been totally dedicated to the Patriotic causes of self determination, soveregnty, democracy, fair play and liberty; Secondly: she has consistently tried to carry out her job and more;
Thirdly: she has always been ‘organised’ in terms of scheduling and time management.

It is perhaps this drive that makes her, for some, a target as she does not suffer fools and like all who have no time for shirkers and fools they tend to make enemies – one only need see the vituperative comments of fools like Stuart Parr and cowards like the childishly named coward Baron von Lottsov or Septic or Farage’s gutter filth the liar and dishonourable low life Mark Croucher in his various cowardly roles exploiting UKIP for his personal gain. That her moral stand over the revolting EFD (many of whose corrupt and vile members are already joining the new Pan EU Political Party CLICK HERE) just watch the sad antics of UKIP’s resident Uriah Heep Douglas Deny mincing around looking for somewhere to stick a knife in or the human garbage McTrough.
That so very many truelly revolting people have gathered around the leadership is a measure of the man who whether elected or not has led the party over at least the last 12 years – weak, self serving, venal and incompetent, without a leadership skill to his name, with no vision, no aim, no gravitas, no loyalty and as we see from the announcement of appointments no interest in the wishes or well being of the members as he appoints a claque of salaried praise singers using tax payers money without so much as a by your leave or thought of the members and their corrupted NEC process.
No one would gainsay the fact that Farage is visibly the best ‘performer’ in the party but what of those denied the access to the stage to perform! Let us accept Farage is a good performer but think what the party could have achieved for these United Kingdoms without this simpering fool and his fear of any challenge to his self sppointed divine right to rob or at very least control the money!!



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#0158* – UKIP & FARAGE OFFER MANY ANGLES TO WATCH THEIR SQUABBLINGS

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 18/10/2010

#0158* – UKIP & FARAGE OFFER MANY ANGLES TO WATCH THEIR SQUABBLINGS!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
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UKIP & FARAGE OFFER MANY ANGLES TO WATCH THEIR SQUABBLINGS!
NOT Least Of Which Is From Junius’ Angle!!
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Indollent Plagiarism! 

Nicked from Junius in toto (with their approval!)

UKIP Civil War: Pity Poor Nigel


“Well, Mr Bannerman clearly thinks that his own ambition and his own ego matter more than the interests of the party. Frankly I am appalled by that. I think that the act of getting hold of Question Time and saying it was all wrong and against party rules was just an act of envy”
Nigel Farage on David Bannerman

A first for Junius. We defend David Bannerman! And we are pleased to note that Nigel has followed our lead and dropped the Campbell bit when referring to David.

The UKIP Civil War continues.

Many of Farage’s long time supporters are now turning against UKIP’s former golden boy. And Nigel is shocked.

Mike Nattrass has been openly circulating an anti-Farage email written by an ex-UKIPPER. See: LINK
Trevor Colman defied Farage by agreeing to support Nikki Sinclaire’s referendum campaign.

Douglas ‘Himmler’ Denny has attacked his former love on the British Democracy Forum:


“NF stabbed the party in the back by abrogating his responsibility to the party as Leader – by not taking the party into the general election.

And yes, he has damaged himself by doing that. He lost my support once he resigned. And many others in the party think the same.

He has also put himself into the position of possibly being humiliated if he looses this leadership election. Why should anyone in UKIP want to vote for a Leader who has already declared they did not want the job when they had it and at a crucial moment in the history of the party, and now wants to come back? There are other perfectly good candidates available.

It is most likely he will be voted in again, however, simply because most of the 16,000 members know him better than the others; but that is not necessarily going to be the best outcome for UKIP – having a Leader who might suddenly ditch the party again on a whim of self-indulgence.”

End of quote.

And now even Bannerman has turned against our Nigel.

How our hearts bleed for Nigel Farage. He loves going on Question Time and was even bragging to UKIPPERS at the hustings about his latest scheduled appearance.

From UKIP’s official website:

UKIP Leading Spokesman Nigel Farage returns to BBC Question Time when it airs from Cheltenham this week.

Joining Nigel alongside host David Dimbleby will be Chris Huhne, Tessa Jowell, Max Hastings and Maria Misra.

The programme is broadcast from 10.35pm on BBC1
But he didn’t count on David Bannerman.

Bannerman was less than pleased and put in a complaint. Farage was forced to withdraw from the programme.

Farage was furious. From his Facebook page

“Question Time announced today that I was invited onto the Question Time panel. Unfortunately my leadership rival David Bannerman forced his staff to complain to the BBC and so there will be no UKIP representative on the show this week. Party before ego? I don’t think so.”He later told a BBC reporter that:

“Mr Bannerman clearly thinks that his own ambition and his own ego matter more than the interests of the party. Frankly I am appalled by that. I think that the act of getting hold of Question Time and saying it was all wrong and against party rules was just an act of envy”.
But Bannerman remained unrepentant:

“It was not professional for any one of the leadership candidates to go on the programme”.
To hear their comments: LINK
We hate to admit it but Bannerman is right. And everything that Farage said about Bannerman could be applied to himself. He had no problem putting his OWN ambition ahead of UKIP by using the Question Time slot to promote himself and his bid for the leadership.

And let us not forget that doddering Titford – UKIP’s interim leader – is fully responsible for this farce. Did it not occur to him that allowing one of the leadership candidates to appear on Question Time and then heavily promoting it on UKIP’s official website was against the rules?

That is what happens when you pick an old fool to lead UKIP.

It came as no surprise to read that Farage Sycophants for UKIP (also known as Bloggers 4 UKIP) were quick to attack the Eastern Region MEP. Our comments are in red:

DCB and the politics of envy

During the leadership election hustings in Birmingham tonight David Campbell Bannerman said, more than once, that he was loyal to the party. When all the candidates were asked if they would deal with the leader should they lose the election, DCB said once again that he was loyal to the party and would do whatever the leader asked of him.

So imagine everyone’s surprise when Nigel got a phone call from the press office following the hustings telling him that the BBC had removed him from the panel on tomorrow’s Question Time programme because David Campbell Bannerman had complained that they were giving him airtime during the leadership election.

Tomorrow’s Question Time is about the huge new wind farm at Thanet which UKIP is opposing, not about the leadership election. Nigel would have been to token anti-windmill panel member and was chosen ahead of a Green Party spokesman. Now UKIP will be denied the publicity that Question Time always brings and the programme will probably go ahead without someone credible speaking out against the global warming scam. So much for party loyalty.
Junius says: Give us a break! The panellists are not supposed to know the questions in advance. And why would ANYONE in Cheltenham be interested in a wind farm in far away Kent? Sycophants for UKIP will really have to do better than that!
But loyalty to members and the cause is more important than loyalty to the party and that’s why DCB is even more out of order in making this petty complaint. While the other candidates were chatting to members, listening to their views and giving them more detail on their campaigns, DCB was in the car park complaining to the BBC
.

Junius says: So leadership candidates who expect a level playing field are disloyal? But we do appreciate the irony of Bannerman getting upset over Question Time. He had no problem when it came to the rigged MEP selection process or the recent rigged NEC elections!

FACT: There is not a single UKIP election that has been run properly. Every single election has been dogged by allegations of corruption and vote rigging. The party never learns.
DCB started the hustings with a personal attack on Farage and finished with an attack on Farage. Another own goal from Team DCB. LINK

Wolfman McTrough was upset. Don’t tell us that he is falling out of love with David?

“I do find the fuss and withdrawal from the QT appearance strange and vindictive.”
Taken from Anthony Butcher‘s squalid British Democracy Forum. LINK
The very public UKIP train crash continues…..

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#0129* – UKIP + EFD = Fully Funded EUthenasia for UKIP. EUkip REBORN!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/09/2010

#0129* – UKIP + EFD = Fully Funded EUthenasia for UKIP. EUkip REBORN!
Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable!
The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

UKIP + EFD = Fully Funded EUthenasia for UKIP. 

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Hi,

Recently you will have seen cautionary information regarding UKIP being duped regarding Pan EU Political Parties and selling out their principles and Steve Allison whom this blog cautioned against as Farage’s man in disguise re. the NEC Election as with Mick McTrough, Elizabeth Burton and others whose presence on the NEC as puppets and muppets brings UKIP into disrepute.

We also cautioned regarding Steve Allison as inappropriate as Campaign Manager for Tim Congdon’s leadership bid.

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Full Name: Steve Allison
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How very apposite – I wonder howmany other people will be Older, Wiser & Sadder having permitted people like McTrough, Duffy, Denny, Allison, Williams, Curtis, Clark, Burton, Batten, Smith, Croucher, Wood (Malcol), Andreasen seize control to ensure it remains the Farage Fan Club at the cost of UKIP Principles, values, manners and ethics.


For those who wish to know the facts and avoid the spin you may care to commence, before reading on, to CLICK HERE or CLICK HERE and HERE and also HERE 

I am heavily reliant for quotes below on Wikipedia which I show in Green, for Barbara Booker aka Barboo which I show in blue, any comments by UKIP members I show in purple – I hope this makes the post easier to follow.

In consideration of UKIP forming a Pan EU Political Party as The EFD or similar – which, particularly in the light of Derek Clark’s betrayal of Britain and Andreasen’s disinterest in Britain working for Spain and herself and Farage’s speech in Berlin at the Reinbeckhalle on Saturday (for details CLICK HERE).
With comprehensive details and text + Pictures CLICK HERE

So let us consider the difficulties which for starters include the concept that to gain back Tax Payers’ money from The EU any elected Party MUST decide to form a Pan EU Political Party – Thus not just strengthening The very enemy they seek to dismantle but in democratic terms fore-swearing their rights of free speech and self determination as they MUST – having first jumped through the malign EU Hoop next accept INSTRUCTION on how they may spend the money!

Controversy

Europarty funding goes to Europarties and stays with Europarties: the funding cannot be used for the funding of other political parties and in particular national political parties.[8] National political parties disinclined from joining Europarties are thereby disadvantaged.[18] 25 Members of the European Parliament petitioned the European Court of Justice, arguing that this contravened the EU’s stated values of pluralism and democracy. The case was rejected after eighteen months.[19][20] A closely related case fought by the French Front National, the Italian Lega Nord, and the Belgian Vlaams Blok (now Vlaams Belang) was appealed[21] and rejected.[22]

Clearly there are many reasons to fore-swear the malign diktat of the central dictator committee’s bribes – that they are bribes would of course be reason enough to the principled and reject the entire concept for honourable men and women, but they are bribes and we are talking about self serving politicians!

Regulations

As of 1 November 2008, the regulation governing Europarties is Regulation (EC) No 2004/2003 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 4 November 2003,[8] as later amended[9] under codecision (see above). According to that regulation’s European Commission factsheet,[10] for a party to become a Europarty it must meet the following criteria:
  • it must have legal personality in the Member State in which its seat is located.
  • it must observe the founding principles of the European Union, namely the principles of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law.
  • it must have participated, or intend to participate, in elections to the European Parliament.
  • it must have in at least one quarter of the Member States, one or both of the following:
  • either it must have received at least 3% of the votes cast in each of those Member States at the most recent European Parliament elections.
  • or it must already be represented by Members, whether Members of the European Parliament for those states, or Members of the national Parliaments of those states, or Members of the regional Parliaments of those states, or Members of the regional Assemblies of those states.
  • it must publish its revenue and expenditure annually.
  • it must publish a statement of its assets and liabilities annually.
  • it must provide a list of its donors and their donations exceeding €500.
  • it must not accept anonymous donations.
  • it must not accept donations exceeding €12,000 per year and per donor.
  • it must not accept donations from the budgets of political groups of the European Parliament.
  • it must not accept more than 40% of a national political party’s annual budget.
  • it must not accept donations from any company over which the public authorities may exercise a dominant influence, either by virtue of their ownership of it, or by their financial participation therein.
  • it must get at least 25% of its budget from sources other than its European Union funding.
  • it must submit its application by the 15 November before the financial year that it wants funding for.

All that boils down in real terms to – YOU WILL comply with OUR TERMS that we have decided to IMPOSE and if you decline:

Firstly you will miss out on a relatively unaccountable free handout of other peoples’ money for YOU to feather YOUR nest and in so doing strengthen the corrupt aims of The Malign and malevolent EU.

Secondly if you do NOT do as we tell you we will imply that you opposed these basic terms:

it must observe the founding principles of the European Union, namely the principles of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law.

Right lets look at this cleverly worded blackmail by The EU!
The EU dishonestly claims:

it observe the founding principles of the European Union,

It does NOT they are merely flowery words that The EU completely ignores!

namely the principles of liberty,

Even Prisons offer periods of Free Association – there are no fundamental Freedoms on offer in this EU Political Prison – The Gulag is set up to ensure The State functions as a supra National Empirate enforced upon the largely opposed people – due to standards of education and a propaganda budget of £2.4Billion stolen from the prisoners annually – the balance of the population are so ignorant they have no understanding of the evil being done to them or they are on the Political Gravy Train enjoying the bribe culture and are bought and paid for.

democracy,

The EU pretends it has a Democratic deficit when in fact it has made it abundantly clear it has absolutely no knowledge or understanding of the basic tenets of democracy!

respect for human rights

This of course is a bare faced lie as even The United Nations, for which I have almost as little respect as I have for The EU or the rest of the New World, Globalist dissorder being managed to control through chaos – The UN clearly states in its Foundation Charter that a fundamental human right is the right of self determination.

There is absolutely no right of Self Determination in The EU where as you know The French, The Dutch & The Irish ALL voted and rejected membership of The EU and engagement with the New Constitution Lisbon Treaty to the horror of the Dictator Committee of apparatchicks and their vassals – such that they blocked other Countries having the opportunity of Self Determination and lied to achieve their corrupt outcome.

They have no respect for Human Rights – one need only study the new codex of law ‘Corpus Juris’ based upon the laws of The Emperor Justinius with an overlay of code Napoleon to produce a ‘better fairer system of REPRESSION’ I quote ‘CORPUS JURIS – Mireille Delmas-Marty EU Publication for DrG Finance ISBN 2-7178-3344-7 end of para 3 page 40

and fundamental freedoms,

What fundamental Freedoms do we enjoy that we did not enjoy or more to the point wished for as British citizens that are in some way granted that were precluded under British law had we wished for them and enjoyed our fundamental human right of SELF DETERMINATION.

and the rule of law.

The EU has no legitimate Laws as it has enacted a huge series of diktats and due to the total lack of democratic input and the fact that only a minority are in favour of membership they have no validity.

Further when edward Heath negotiated and led these United Kingdoms backwards into this arcane concept he has admitted both on TV in an interview with David Frost and subsequently repeated on the floor of The House of Commons and thus on record in Hansard that he and his Cabinet deliberately lied to Parliament and the peoples and also it seems The Monarch when he stated that ‘This will lead to no essential loss of Sovereignty’ – he has confirmed that he lied because he believed that the people would vote NO in the referendum if they knew the truth.

Many people believe the people voted NO anyway, despite his criminal deception and thus at the time TREASON. Many believe it was by lumping of Constituencies to fudge a result!

Under UK Law at the time which was upheld by The Treaty of Vienna on International Treaties it clearly states that should one party mislead another to obtain their agreement, acquiescence or compliance to a contract or agreement said contract or agreement shall be deemed null and void.

Thus Ipso Facto Britain’s signature to The Treaty of Rome is by any stretch of the imagination NULL & VOID.

Thus since every single EU encroachment since that unlawfull document is merely an ammendment founded upon the pre supposition that the foundation document was sound there is no stronger argument against Britain’s membership of the centralised alien and malign committee dictatorship of The EU than the simple fact that there is prima facie evidence that our entire participation is Ultra Vires.

WE ARE NOT LEGALLY MEMBERS OF THE EUROPEAN UNION

Now consider the excellent fisking of Steve Allison’s confused statement lifted earlier from The UKIP members’ forum – the site where those too timerous to discuss their views and promote and defend them crano rectally retentatively navel gaze from the inside! An incestuous and heavily moderated site for those of little political nouse and less competence to impress eachother in a vacuum!

Steve Allison on pan-EU parties

Junius has posted comments said to have been made by Steve Allison on the UKIP members’ forum, following an NEC meeting at which a presentation on forming a pan-European party to access additional EU funding was discussed.

The Euro-sceptic Parties, like UKIP, tend to shy away from forming organisations that are seen as taking them deeper into the system. As illustrated by the almost frenzied rush by some sections of UKIP to ensure our party is not contaminated by receipt of such money! This means Euro-sceptic groups don’t access the funding that is available and leave the field clear for the pro-EU organisations to grab all the cash.

UKIP Members seem to fixate on the requirement that to draw down such funds the party must “observe the founding principles of the European Union”.

However, those ‘founding principles’ are the principles of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law.

Which of those principles does UKIP Object to? Obviously we have a different interpretation of them from other parties and nations, and we understand and practise them in a very different way from Continental Europeans. But we, as a party do support these principles. There is no requirement for example to support any other aims of the EU, there is no requirement to support political union or greater integration. The irony is that UKIP could take EU Money and use it to fight political union and further integration in the name of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law.

So it’s not that such funding isn’t available to Euro sceptic groups. It is just that such groups chose to not access the funding due to some mistaken idea of ideological purity.

The phrase “Cutting off one’s own nose to spite one’s face” comes to mind here.

Paid by whom and with what?
One of the carrots of accepting membership of a pan-European political party would be funding for a “think tank” to develop policy. This would probably be based in the UK with a big slice of 1,300,000 Euro Budget. This money could be used to research positions, produce policies, print and distribute booklets, etc. It could also be used to fund conferences and meetings. Yes I know its a buy off (or a sell out?) but its a lot of money that UKIP could use to fight the EU with.

I rather like the irony of using the EU’s money to fight against it. At least we’d be getting some of our own money back.

If you think about it UKIP does only exist because of the EU! At the risk of breaking NEC Confidentiality I will say there was extensive discussion about this at the NEC and a lot more information is still outstanding. I went into the meeting pre-disposed to fight the “Pan European Party” to my last breath, but I listened to the presentation, I asked questions and received answers and I agreed at NEC that the party should investigate the outstanding issues and the NEC receive another report.

The proposal was then to present this report at a special meeting open to all UKIP Members in London on October 9th. The morning session could have been an official Leadership Hustings and an afternoon session on the pan European party proposal. This would have allowed three or even four hours of informed discussion rather than just the very brief debate and prepared speeches to the motion at conference.

Unfortunately I understand the amendment to the motion was defeated and so the Special General Meeting will now not take place. I think this is a real shame as it would have allowed informed decision making and not knee jerk responses

I have not agreed to the proposal but what I have said is that it doesn’t need to be rejected out of hand without some really serious consideration. There is some serious money on the table and UKIP needs every penny it can get. The key question I asked, and received assurances to, was that being in such a party would in no way mean the end of UKIP, we would still be UKIP and would continue to campaign and stand in elections as UKIP.

The whole thing is by no means a done deal but there are some very attractive carrots on offer and I for one find the irony very attractive in taking EU Money to spend fighting the EU.

Assuming the comments are genuine and accurately reported, they are worth considering in detail as the subject is fundamental to UKIP’s future. The essential points made by Steve Allison are:
quote (Steve Allison)

UKIP Members seem to fixate on the requirement that to draw down such funds the party must “observe the founding principles of the European Union”. However, those ‘founding principles’ are the principles of liberty, democracy, respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, and the rule of law. Which of those principles does UKIP Object to? . . . . we, as a party do support these principles. There is no requirement for example to support any other aims of the EU, there is no requirement to support political union or greater integration.

unquote
Steve Allison would appear to be remarkably poorly informed here. If UKIP members are indeed fixated as he suggests it is because they have heard their MEPs, particularly Nigel Farage, say over and again that the party rejects the state funding of pan-EU political parties precisely because qualification requirements conflict with UKIP aims and principles. Is SA not aware that in 2004 MEPs Farage, Titford and Booth even took the European parliament and Council of Ministers to the European Court in an attempt to kill off the funding legislation? You can’t spend years saying something is dangerous and unacceptable, then suddenly present it as an attractive carrot and expect to carry the membership with you. See the following:

Press release from Jeffrey Titford MEP, 26.7.00:
The European Union plans to fund only those parties which “support the principle of European integration“.

UKIP and EDD press release 18.2.03: The European proposals would require parties in receipt of funding to accept both the primacy of European Union law, and the EU’s Charter of Fundamental Rights. Jeffrey Titford said,
It can hardly be considered democratic to require parties to accept a certain political position, in this case acceptance of the supremacy of the European Union and its bodies, in order to secure funding“.

Daily Telegraph 20.2.03:
Mr Farage said he was proud to be disqualified from receiving such funding. “I most certainly don’t respect the primacy of EU law and I think the charter (of Fundamental Rights) is downright dangerous

Nigel Farage to CIB Liberty News, Spring 2003:
in order for a political party to be registered it must ensure that the statute and activities of the European political party respect the basic purposes of the Union with regard to freedom, democracy, human rights, fundamental freedoms and the rule of law“.

This immediately presents difficulties for parties that disagree with the objectives of the European Union . . . the UK Independence Party would immediately fall foul of the Commission because one of its aims is British withdrawal from the Union. It also disagrees with the principles of the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights and does not recognise the supremacy of EU laws over those of Great Britain, making it a complete non-starter under the new rules!

Europarl verbatim report of proceedings 18.6.03, Statute and financing of European political parties:
Booth (EDD) – Two recent opinion polls in the UK gave figures of 92% and 96% as wanting to leave the European Union, and yet this proposal would deny funding to any party who should dare to represent the views of that very large proportion of its citizens“.

BBC Radio 4 ‘World at One’ 27.6.03: Nigel Farage is an MEP for the UK Independence Party. As a member of a party who wouldn’t receive any of the new money he’s furious about the proposals: (Farage)
If you support the political union, if you support the European project you’ll get money, if you don’t you won’t get money“.

UKIP press release, 28.1.04 ‘UKIP MEPs take Euro Parliament to court over state funding of parties’ – UK Independence Party MEP Nigel Farage said,
We are opposed on principle to the idea of state funding of political parties, either nationally or at a European level. It is not an appropriate use of tax-payers money. As if that was not bad enough, the legislation adopted by the European Parliament and the Council of Ministers will discriminate against certain political parties. It requires the recipients of European funding to subscribe to pre-set political ideals, such as agreement with greater European integration“.

Europarl verbatim report of proceedings 8.3.04, Statute and financing of political parties at European level:
Farage (EDD) I do not think there is any evidence that suggests that the voters in my country or in any other country are happy for their money directly to finance political parties at a European level. I have also felt, ever since Nice and Article 191, that this idea that you qualify if you conform to the democratic principles of the Union is potentially a dangerous one. I have some difficulty with the issue of the rule of law. It seems to me that, post-Constitution, some in this place – and I am one of them – will not recognise that new rule of law because we will only be able to leave the EU on terms of the EU“.

UKIP Letter from Strasbourg 22.11.05:
Pan EU Political Parties. Within the Independence and Democracy Group, two parties have emerged. However, UKIP joined neither of them, because there are no other moderate parties in the parliament that want to leave the EU and also, because UKIP disapproves of state funding for parties, which is to be made available to these new combinations“.

UKIP press release 3.2.06:
Snouts deeper in the trough – the European Parliament’s Budgetary Control Committee last night rubber-stamped a massive 19% hike in taxpayers’ money to be gifted to ‘European Political Parties’. Tom Wise MEP (UKIP) denounced the decision. The concept of European Political parties is itself a travesty designed mainly to raise more cash for pro-European political forces. To qualify, parties represented in the European Parliament from at least 7 different countries have to subscribe to a single political platform. This naturally discriminates against those parties that believe in national self-determination“.

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A question that could be put to Nigel Farage at the leadership hustings is, were he and UKIP’s other MEPs lying over that five year period when they kept saying UKIP would be denied funding because of its stance on EU integration, or did they just not understand the funding criteria? And whichever it was, how are members to know they’re not lying / misunderstanding now in their presentation to the NEC?
* * *
quote (Steve Allison)

One of the carrots of accepting membership of a pan-European political party would be funding for a “think tank” to develop policy. This would probably be based in the UK with a big slice of 1,300,000 Euro Budget. This money could be used to research positions, produce policies, print and distribute booklets, etc. It could also be used to fund conferences and meetings. Yes I know its a buy off (or a sell out?) but its a lot of money that UKIP could use to fight the EU with.

unquote
No, UKIP most definitely could not use the money to fight the EU! The regulations governing the funding of political parties at European level (pan-EU parties) and their associated political foundation ‘think tanks’ specifically rule out the money being used by national political parties. To form a pan-EU party UKIP would have to agree a common political programme with parties from six other member states, and the funds could only be used to further objectives set out in that programme. ‘Withdrawal’ would not feature in it since no other EFD members want to leave the EU, and the research, policies, booklets, meetings, conferences, etc, would all have to promote the new party’s aims of ‘improving’ the EU.
quote (Steve Allison)

The key question I asked, and received assurances to, was that being in such a party would in no way mean the end of UKIP, we would still be UKIP and would continue to campaign and stand in elections as UKIP.

unquote
This is only partially true. Legislation currently being steered through the EP’s Constitutional Affairs Committee (AFCO) by the LibDem MEP Andrew Duff includes a draft proposal for 25 seats at the 2014 Euro-elections to be contested by pan-European parties on an EU wide basis. If by then UKIP is in a pan-European party it will not be able to contest these seats as UKIP. Furthermore, although European Party funding cannot be used for campaigning by national parties the reverse does not apply, and UKIP funds can and no doubt will be used for the new European Party’s campaign. Obviously, 25 seats will be just the thin end of the wedge, and at future EU elections UKIP members can expect to see ever more of their party’s funds diverted into the election campaigns of EFD (or whatever they call themselves) MEPs.
Don’t say you haven’t been warned!

May I take the liberty of reitterating Barbara Booker’s excellent conclusion in my own name!

Don’t say you haven’t been warned!

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#0103* – UKIP & Their LOSS IN LEADERSHIP COULD BE THE COUNTRY’S GAIN

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 09/09/2010

#0103* – UKIP & Their LOSS IN LEADERSHIP COULD BE THE COUNTRY’S GAIN  

Clean EUkip up NOW  make UKIP electable!  
The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership,   
their anti UKIP claque in POWER the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!  

UKIP & Their LOSS of Nikki SINCLAIRE & HER POLITICAL
NOUSE & MORAL COMPASS IN UKIP LEADERSHIP
COULD BE THE COUNTRY’S GAIN!

Hi,

I thought this might amuse UKIP’s decent honest members and show just how much they have lost by way of commitment and determination amongst their leadership team as they get left behind and scorned by Nikki Sinclaire who spoke 3 times in the Strasburgh Plenniary as far as I can work out – without the staff and the collective input from other UKIP MEPs, two days after she had been set up and duplicitously sold out to the press.

Two days after a story was planted by UKIP leadership who ruthlessly exploited the pathetic little Mrs. Dale’s Diary seeking favour with his ‘friend’ yet I was phoned by someone who had not seen the article about 4 minutes after it was posted! They would not tell me who had phoned and told them but it was pretty clear at that time of night that Mrs. Dale’s Diary had been had for a sucker (no pun intended) in posting the leak.

An over paid and trusted book keeper had made a false entry in the books in January claiming for a ferry ticket and an airline ticket for the same journey and having subsequently been reported to the police for other perceived discrepancy in May waited to announce his seemingly deliberate error immediately before the conference! Yeah an oversight NOT.

I believe that John Ison is duplicitous, dishonest, venal and corrupt he will prove a well matched adition to the visible parasites in UKIP Leadership.

Many hours of travel later, the hurt and anger that such a betrayal must be felt but yet Nikki Sinclaire delivers a robust and passionate attack on the dishonesty of The EU and its propaganda and the importance of THE FREEDOM OF THE PRESS and FREE SPEECH even joking with a comment about the over use of ‘Allegedly’.

That is why I support UKIP Members and Nikki Sinclaire because she represents what is good about the party.

Nikki Sinclaire is without doubt a hopeless speaker, her voice is terrible for either open or electronic amplification – but I seek out her videos on the internet, troll through the parliament debates, search on YouTube because there is an awsome truth in the morarlity of almost every clip.

No she is not a showman – a snake oil salesman – a performer but unlike Nigel Farage who is there is at least in Sinclaire’s speeches sincerity where the immense competence and delivery style of Farage just cuts no ice – it is clearly just a performance and were it the lines of Shakespeare or Hannibal Lecter he would be just as competent but which would he mean and even then would any but the naiive and the gullible believe him as he surrounds himself with garbage that do not challenge him yet he fails to realise their presence shows him as no more than a cockrell crowing on top of a farm dung heap as he has gathered not the shoulders of giants on which to stand but the excrement of midgets!

It takes courage and a sound moral compass to stand for square under attack and speak out for the liberty of your attackers. It takes an empty self publicist to attack some petty fogging unelected spineless official like Rumpoy – whatever his bloated title and endlessly attacking the idiotic Baroness Trash Can demeans the attacker.
Outsmart them don’t make a fool of yourself by being ruder or shouting louder!

Someone who speaks to Nikki would you mind telling her for me ‘I’ll teach her how to deliver her speeches and her voice and breath control – in exchange would she mind putting me on her mailing list’, I wouldn’t spend so much time searching the internet!

I wonder if wee John Ison would care to send this blog to John.Ungoed-Thomas@ the Sunday Times with his admission of corruption – it is astonishing, with years of practice, just how easy it is to get information – learn from the medievval armies never seek to enter a hostile castle through the front gates they are the best defended but seek passage with the cow herd at a side gate delivering milk!

As Mr. Ison will tell you the boss protects his information and uses his staff in accord with their salary but there is always some low life like John Ison who will part with information, too stupid to understand who they are supplying indirectly!

Only an idiot like McTrough or Croucher or Denny is such a fool as to believe the supplier of information even knows they are doing so – but that is why they are other mens’ parasites!

The TEXT of the Speech was as follows:

“I am pleased that the Commission acknowledges the important role of a free press in maintaining democratic integrity.

However, all too often, the political elite adopt the attitude that words mean what they say they mean. This is one of those cases.

Today, in this parliament, an article in the Løkkegaard report called for correspondents from the Brussels press corps to be organised in order to cover EU news in a more instructive manner. Journalists are there to inform, not to instruct.

More than anything else, journalists value their independence. If they do not have independence, then they cannot be considered free.

Already, the Commission exerts too much control over the media in Brussels , through financial incentive, and through coercion.

Europarl TV is talked about here as if it had some news value. It does not. Its content is nothing more than press releases with moving pictures. That is why nobody watches it.

The Løkkegaard report was actually voted through this parliament today requiring EU studies to be incorporated into the school curricula. Any journalist will tell you that there is no place for propaganda in a free and independent media.

The NGO Reporters without Frontiers has already identified Italy , Bulgaria , and Slovakia as having noticeable problems with press freedom. France and Spain also fail to meet the standards that European citizens should have the right to expect. In the UK we already have a press that can be considered to be free. As we have seen here today, the EU seems to be moving in the opposite direction.”

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