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Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/06/2011
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Douglas Denny’s response show that about 10 years too late the foolish little chap (UKIP NEC Sycophant & serial liar) is showing signs of waking up. I wonder if he will have the integrity to apologise for all his lies, fabrications of fantasies, gullibility and outright dishonesty. Personally I see no signs that he is either man enough or honourable – so I think not!
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Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 27/05/2011
If they put HALF the effort into Leave-The-EU their core message that they put into fiddling and trying to attack their friends and supporters – They just might have achieved SOMETHING!
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Hi,
clearly UKIP are so obsessed with sqabbling internally they haven’t much of a clue what is going on around them – they must be feeling very foolish as I warned of this and proved David Bannerman was a fraud before he even joined UKIP – I published details of his dishonesty and warned again and again subsequently when UKIP’s utterly incompetent leadership showed they lacked the competence to lead or manage.
You may remember it was I who clearly warned that Mark Croucher was a liar and untrustworthy and that Stephen Sobey and probably Annabelle Fuller (Since she knew him AND knew he worked in Tory Central Office) were Tory Plants in UKIP.
Again and again I have provided information long ahead of my publishing it when UKIP were too stupid to check the facts I provided and act on them.
The only defence UKIP has been able to make has been to lie, defame and attack me using their cowardly sock puppets and those with no integrity, honour or reputation worthy of defending like Douglas Denny, Mick McGough, Gawain Towler, Clive Page, Mark Croucher, Paul Nuttall, Derek Clark, Stuart Agnew and the like – filth to the very core!
One wonders now whether, having been shown to be unprincipled, dishonest and corrupt whether UKIP might consider using some of the money they have stolen and trousered to pay the £12.1/2K+ which they owe me and the British Courts who found against them.
I doubt it UKIP has shown contempt for British values, British Justice and any concept of honour or duty.
MEP David Campbell-Bannerman’s defection from UKIP to the Tories has delighted more than a few Conservative backbenchers.
Not least among their reasons for glee are their new recruit’s connection via birth to Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman, the former Liberal Prime Minister.
David is actually a distant relative rather than a direct descendant, but that hasn’t dampened the enthusiasm for his return to the Tory fold after more than a decade away.
Defections are always tricky to navigate and I’m told that Mark Pritchard had a key role in wooing his old friend (and fellow Bow Group member) back.
I hear that while Charles Tannock handled most of the negotiations in Brussels, it was Pritchard and Stewart Jackson who handled things in London.
The final deed was actually done over a dinner of big T-bone steaks in Gaucho’s restaurant in Piccaddilly last month.
Big steaks and wine conjure up a much more Tory menu than the limp Granita fare in Islington picked over by Blair and Brown all those years ago.
But then again, Gaucho’s is Argentinian….How will Pritchard and Jackson ever look the Falklands Islanders in the eye again?
To view the original article CLICK HERE
Theres a great wine list at Graucho’s:
Such a good job MEPs are on expenses that WE PAY!
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Posted in Annabelle FULLER, David BANNERMAN MEP, Derek Clark MEP, Douglas DENNY, Mark CROUCHER, Mick McGOUGH, Paul Nuttall MEP, Stephen SOBEY NEVILE, Stuart AGNEW MEP | 1 Comment »
Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 24/05/2011
Clearly too busy squabbling for a place at the troughs to pay attention!
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Hi,
you will be well aware that whilst still an MEP before he retired Roger Knapman resigned from the extremist grouping in The EU and wrote an excorriating letter in denunciation of the incompetence of Nigel Farage MEP as a leader.
Roger Knapman believed that Nigel Farage MEP had completely squandered the legacy of goodwill that he, Roger Knapman, had built up during his own leadership – during which he had led UKIP from 3 MEPs to 12 MEPs and had increased the membership to 30,000.
Many will remember that it was believed at the time that a leak by Nigel Farage supporters had set Roger Knapman up over his foolish embroillment regarding Polish workers and his family involvement in ‘People Trafficking’ – importing primarily Polish workers to undercut British skilled workers in exploitation of EU regulations designed to damage Britain.
Whether it was at Farage’s instigation it was clearly at the instigation of one of Farage’s vile little puppets Mark Croucher that Roger Knapman’s position was made infinitely worse. Mark Croucher was behind the lies in the letter to The Press Complaints Commission which was so roundly and soundly rejected!
Further it was Mark Croucher who exacerbated the problem by describing his employers as ‘a bunch of F***wits’ – though some may have agreed with him it was very damaging to make such comments when telling lies to the media!
In a most professional manner loyal to UKIP Roger Knapman waited until AFTER the local elections, in which Farage as so called leader had performed so attrociously and has now admitted on TV that his strategy was all wrong and he had proved unable to lead UKIP – Roger Knapman reitterated part of his comments from a year earlier see CLICK HERE
Nikki Sinclaire MEP was lied about, bullied and abused eventually being dishonestly barred from UKIP based on base lies and distortions.
Then of course Mike Nattrass MEP distanced himself from Nigel Farage as leader refusing to continue supporting the extremist racist, anti Jewish and anti homosexual EFD Group with its pro EU membership stance and reformist values. More recently Trevor Colman MEP has also renounced Nigel Farage’s leadership and envolvement in The EFD – though I doubt either will have the courage to endorse the FACTS as presented by Marta Andreasen even those they know to be true.
A measure of the disaray and splits in UKIP is the vituperative attacks being made, as with the poisinous response to the difference in opinion based on principles that we saw when Nikki Sinclaire was attacked by those who feared their snouts might be kicked out of the feeding troughs – the crass incompetence of the response to Marta Andreasen’s self serving stupidity, true as its content clearly was.
Next we see the foolish and odious leap into the gutter by all of those two faced children Farage has gathered around him who were praising and supporting David Bannerman but a mere few days ago, being far too stupid to to use their brains and blinded by their own self importance and need to act as sycophants to stay with a chance of remaining relevant!
The bile in their vaulte face has been an object lesson for many – whilst the silence from the hirelings and cowards as they keep a low profile to weather the storm is also notable.
We are now informed that further divisions are leaving Farage yet more isolated and insecure as a result of last Saturday’s SW Committee meeting where Christopher Palmer (aka Palmer) is picking a fight with Brian Slade’s opinion of the minutes.
Meanwhile Bob Feal-Martinez is missing no opportunity to attack the idiotic Steve Crowther and his incompetence!
Saturday Meeting:
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as promised, an update [for your info] following the meeting held at lexdum on sat 21st, re item 12 on agenda, “loss of s/west support” and the outcome of a rather heated [at times] debate on the loss of financial support for the funding of the regional organiser due to trevor colman withdrawing his contibution of financial support for this purpose.
1/ it was agreed we need an r/o in place full time to co-ordinate the region,
2/ trevor explained the reason he had withdrawn his financial support for the funding was because the eu allowances given to mep`s cannot be used directly and legally for this purpose and his actions were to protect his good name etc.
3/ trevor stated he was very unhappy in the way the issue had been presented to the membership by the letter sent out by the s/west chairman, and how in his opinion .it tarnished his name and reputation due to the incorrect and misleading way it presented the facts, he felt the issue should have been discussed between the committee and himself, and he had therefore to attend the meeting to defend his reputation.
4/ the chairman made comment that his intended action to withdraw his financial support also had not been made known to the committee for discussion.
5/ trevor asked if he still had the support of the committee to carry out his role and following a frank open discussion it was agreed that trevor had been very active for ukip and had contributed substancial financial support as well as donations of material items such as desks chairs computers etc used at head office.
6/ a vote was taken on the specific point of continued support to trevor and all members voted in favour.
7/ an alternative way to secure financial support by trevor from his eu allowances to help fund a full time r/o was proposed by the chairman, this was agreed by trevor in principle that should it be found to be legal and within the eu rules of how an mep`s can be used he would be happy to contibute to the r/o`s cost`s.
8/ a much needed and frank clear the air meeting that concluded a wrong approach to the issue had been taken regards actions and communication by both sides, and all present agreed that the alternative way suggested to enable trevor to legally use part of his allowances to fund the r/o should be investigated, trevor agreed to this.
regards
brian slade
The splits and divisions don’t end there:
Interestingly she was described by one of UKIP’s more independent senior members as ‘One of the very few UKIP members he would consider welcome in his home’.
Rather says it all doesn’t it!
Perhaps we can all be excused in quoting Sir Walter Scott with:
‘Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive’
Perhaps the phenomenon quoted even earlier by Heywood in his ‘Dialogue of Proverbs’ of 1546 may be considered even more apposite when he said:
Fair play to him one of UKIP’s village idiots who has lied, cheated and defamed having been taken for and shown to be a fool has had to admit they were so stupid that they didn’t see this coming from the very start when this blog was regularly predicting it and the idiot Douglas Denny was telling endless lies and inventing desperate fantasy scenarios to try to defame us for consistently and continuously telling the truth.
Even now humiliated as he is we doubt he will be man enough to issue the apology he must surely have the intelligence to know that he owes me and numerous others for his lies.
You can read more of this odious liar Douglas Denny with fact after fact corroborating our statement of fact that Douglas Denny is a liar, a cheat and a fantasist embroilled up to his neck in the frauds and thefts from the public purse and members and a prime mover in the rigging of corrupt internal elections CLICK HERE
This is his latest homily – having betrayed Britain, the electorate UKIP members and more he now calls the pot black!
Dear David,
To learn of your defection to the Conservative Party after years of your denouncing them is the most cynical, self-serving act of betrayal I know of in all the years of politics that I have been engaged in.
I am appalled and disgusted with you: – a person who I thought had integrity but has now proven without a shadow of doubt how shallow in principles you really are.
What is worse for me personally to learn of this event, is I considered you a friend too, someone invited to stay under my roof, eaten at my table, and considered a trusted companion on the road towards a great cause for Britain against the EU; a person who had previously denounced all the other cynical political parties – especially the Conservatives – who have been for over thirty years and still are – busy selling the country down the river….. and now you have joined them !! For what? … your own selfish, power-greed, tongue-slavering, money-grabbing reasons? What a traitor ! What a Judas! How can you can face yourself in the mirror every day?
To salvage any kind of credibility as a decent human being you should now resign your MEP position – so hard worked for and gained on the back of UKIP’s many workers who deserve better than you by far !
Resign, and I shall accept you still as an honourable person but understand that you cannot continue with UKIP (for whatever reasons) – then, and only then, at least you will have done the decent thing.
Stay as an MEP, having got there under the UKIP banner only to have defected and distanced yourself from your own previously announced principles – espoused so volubly for years under UKIP’s name – and you will prove to all you are as base as the lowest on the planet.
Douglas Denny. NEC member. UKIP.
Yes clearly The Kettle and The Pot have fallen out!
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Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 18/05/2011
There are also liars & low lifes who demean UKIP
like Mick McGough, David Bannerman, William Shaw, Godfrey Bloom, Stuart Agnew, Hugh Williams, Malcolm Pearson, Lisa Duff, Mark Croucher, Stuart Parr, Gawain Towler, Derek Clark, Peter Reeve, Marta Andreasen, Douglas Denny and the like who have no reputation of value to defend!!
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Hi,
at last we have an accurate measure for the integrity of the likes of Skeptyk, Independent UKIP and so many other UKIP spokesmen who are too ashamed to put their name to their low grade rubbish, serial lies and desperate and childish attempts at defamation:
FOR THE RECORD:
Skeptyk in a dishonest and amateur attempt to defame me and this blog made the following comment on Anthony Butcher’s dishonest UKIP controlled Forum:
I started up my blog to address the hypocrisy
G.L-W. >>Not one single solitary example of hypocracy has this dishonest consortium of liars provided to date. Regarding myself NOT ONE. Skeptic you are a liar.<<
and the lies of those anti-UKIPpers
G.L-W. >>Nowhere can a single example of anti UKIP activity be found or attributed to me without the need for dishonest spin to present the facts I lead as ‘anti’ – I am and have for many years been a consistent and outspoken supporter of UKIP that it has become debased and corrupted and that it lacks any signs of professionalism, integrity, morality, probity, strategy, tactics, training, vision, judgement, leadership or values of any merit does not for one second detract from my support for the members of ethical standing who seek to Leave-The-EU. Skeptyk you are a liar.<<
who’s pious attitudes sickened me.
G.L-W. >>That ethics, transparency, probity, morality and a desire to clen-up UKIP to make it fit for purpose ‘sickens’ Skeptyk is probably the only honest comment I have EVER seen made by Skeptyk which can stand unqualified.<<
Such as GLW’s ridiculous myth that he never lies
G.L-W. >>I am happy to stand by my EVERY comment in the context in which it was made and have NEVER once in my life been shown to have wittingly and deliberately lied nor set out with intent to deceive on any issue. Skeptyk and his associates have however been repeatedly proven to lie and deliberately deceive.<<
– I can prove he is a liar with the greatest of ease;
G.L-W. >>Yet of the 1,000s of blogs I have written and 10s of 1,000s of postings on forums, news groups and publicly circulated ‘e’Mails never ONCE have the cowardly liars sheltering their dishonesty in shame behind anonymity shown a single solitary lie that I have EVER told deliberately or with intent to mislead. Rather more than can be said of those who post as Skeptyk or their associate Mick McGough and others of their self serving ilk.<<
or how GLW thought Nikki Sinclaire was a ‘pervert’
G.L-W. >>I do not think Nikki Sinclaire MEP is a pervert I know her to be a pervert by her own claims. Nikki Sinclaire is a homosexual and in the context of the law and of her job – so what?
Is it that Skeptyk is too stupid to recognise that fact that homosexuality is a perversion – one of many that are ‘perverse’ to the norm but are considered perfectly legal and for which I actively campaigned for decriminalisation in the 1960s.
Is it perhaps that Skeptyk are seeking to point score by use of utterly dishonest Political Correctness which is NOT upheld by Justice.
Shame on you Skeptyk for seeking to undermine British Justice but let us not forget the contempt in which UKIP holds British Justice and the flagrancy with which they abuse British Justice and British Courts, without honour or integrity.<<
until she fell out with UKIP,
G.L-W. >>Please identify where and when Nikki Sinclaire MEP fell out with UKIP, when UKIP is actively seeking through the idiotic Steve Crowther back long before the recent election to seek an accomodation that will recompense for the lies, abuse, dishonesty and ilegal treatment of her by such Leadership personalities and low lifes in UKIP as Nigel Farage, Malcolm Lord Pearson, Christopher Gill MP (Tory rtd./failed), Mick McGough, the cowardly Skeptyk, Godfrey Bloom MEP and various others of the pond life and unprincipled UKIP leadership team and its odious supporters. Skeptyk you are liars.<<
or how the Junius blog employs the ‘talents’ of a BNP implant
G.L-W. >>Those in The EU and working for UKIP who are unhappy with the crass incompetence and serial dishonesty of the clearly unprofessional UKIP leadership do indeed publish material that they consider to be Factual and or humerous exposing the follies and dishonesties of UKIP’s leadership team and those in its immediate claque or employ..
Whether or not such material is the product of The BNP or a supporter of the BNP is as imaterial as the fact that UKIP frequently consorted with and supplied membership data to the extremist fascist organisations associated with AFL and other odious organisations acting violently in denial of democracy.<<
whilst falsely claiming that UKIP’s links with the far right.
UKIP was clearly linked to the far right in fact the extreme Right.
Further UKIP leadership has seen fit to befoul UKIP by association with the Pan EU EFD Political Group , of which Nigel Farage, the titular leader of UKIP is President – a group which is encouraged, supported and aided by UKIP as a result a group which is openly Racist, anto Jewish, Xenophobic, pro EU membership, violently anti homosexual, criminal and holocaust deniers amongst its accepted principles!
Yes UKIP is associated with and supportive of The EXTREME FAR RIGHT in EUropean politics.
Further they are actively campaigning to subsume UKIP into such a group as a Pan EU Political Party prostituting the membership and principles for perceived gain yet aiding The EU by compliance in their diminution of the validity of both democracy and the Nation State in direct and flagrant breach of the fundamental Human Right of Self Determination of The People as defined by The UN.
Those are just some examples that leap to mind.
G.L-W.>>A total failure over months, in fact YEARS to present the truth or facts by Skeptyk to substantiate their sordid claims shows them for the cowards and liars they are – even to the extent that when challenged to present the evidence in public to my face where members of the public could openly challenge me has repeatedly failed to meet with acceptance from these vile filth. Clearly Skeptyk are liars.<<
However, since the blog’s creation, my email inbox is regularly full of allegations against certain people, mostly unsubstantiated and as such, I won’t touch them.
G.L-W.>>That Skeptyk are selective in whome they dishonestly defame and lie about is surely no surprise and more of a confession than a defence. Indeed irrefutably Skeptyk has been shown to be both a liar and deliberately dishonest in order to defame.<<
So to answer your question, it is not an attack blog
G.L-W.>>Clearly the nomenclature can be argued about pedanticly by a charlatan to wriggle out from the fact that it is, in common parlance, an attack blog.
It would be equally as trur to describe it as a self serving pack of lies or merely a cowardly and defamatory aggregation of filth speaking volumes of the sick minds of its perverted authors. Again Skeptyk is clearly shown to be dishonest and a liar.<<
– it is there to merely educate people of the background of some of those who make accusations against UKIP because to be frank, people should be made aware of the homophobe who accuses UKIP of homophobia,
G.L-W.>>Again Skeptyk show themselves to be liars in that I am unaware of a single instance of homophobia as he quaintly puts it to comply with Political Correctness to try to score points. I am unaware of such a stance by any of the Junius posters on that blog – and I most certainly have NEVER posted in those terms on mine.
Unlike Skeptyk it is a long and well known FACT that I actively campaigned in favour of the decriminalisation of homosexuality and for various rights for homosexuals.
That UKIP is anti Homosexual has been upheld by The EU Parliament and by The British Courts who found against UKIP and handed down a guilty verdict against them. Further UKIP is part of a Pan EU Political Group that it aids, supports and part finances that is most unashamedly happy to harbour and encourage violent anti homosexuality. Yet again Skeptyk are shown to be liars and dishonest.<<
or the far-right implant who accuses UKIP of being far-right,
G.L-W.>>I have been known to quote from Mrs. Bandaranaika, Margot Walstrom, Mrs Indira Ghandi, Helen Suzmann, Her Majesty The Queen, Ayn Rand, Dorothy Parker – it may come as a surprise to those cowards posting as Skeptyk for UKIP that does not make me a woman of erudity, wit or wisdom any more than postings as examples make those who make the postings Far Right.
Support of The Extreme Far Right is when a party such as UKIp or an individual either supply the extreme far right with such data as membership information or wittingly and willingly actively support extreme far right politics, violent anti homosexuality, anti Judaism, Racism and the like as has UKIP and its leadership team for whatever reason or for whatever reward – there is absolutely no justification for political prostitution selling out the values and principles of the membership and supporters for money or position however elevated or however much.
Once again we note the lack of morality, failure of ethical understanding, absence of a moral compass and dishonest lies and misrepresentation of those who post as Skeptyk in self interest.<<
or the MEP who’s ‘i don’t work with extremists’ mantra is contradicted by [ snipped ].
G.L-W.>>This is clearly a libel as all with any political knowledge knew this to be an attempt to defame and libel a given MEP and an EU Pool Employee who works with the MEP the employee having had a brief sojourne with the same party as Michael Nattrass MEP one tiome deputy leader of UKIP, Jeffrey Titfford MEP one time leader of UKIP a the brevity of that stay is not only noted but it is also noted that it was for a very brief period after some years of Military service for the Crown.
That the individual rapidly moved on on learning more of politics is worthy of note.
That Nigel Farage MEP, Tom Wise MEP are both habituees of The Swinton Circle which was willing to harbour corruption and would seem clearly to be an overtly racist group of dwinding significance is also worthy of note.
Once again the low lifes that post as Skeptyk are shown to be dishonest and to have lied.<<
At times, my blog’s style of humour has been too personal towards certain individuals which I regret, if I have offended anyone with those, I offer apologies.
G.L-W.>>On this claim I can not claim any depth of knowledge as I have so rarely visited the blog having established long ago that I was unlikely to learn anything of note or merit on the blog as that which I had read showed it to be foul mouthed, offensive, childish, dishonest, sordid, inaccurate, ill informed and extremely damaging to UKIP as it told more of the nature of the leadership of UKIP and their modus operandi than ever could be found plausible in the filth it invented against the decent patriots supporting UKIP and trying desperately to clean it up and make it fit for purpose once more as our lifeboat to Leave-The-EU.
I have however had considerable feedback from individuals of repute and honour as to just how damaging the blog is to UKIP and how it so demeans its sordid authors.
Again Skeptyk are shown to be the scum of the earth acting in ignorant and childish self interest.<<
And as for Tim – look him up in the forum users list, for that is his name.
G.L-W.>>In deed it is his name and like Skeptyk the name is false but unlike Skeptyk for honourable reasons.<<
There is some speculation as to who he is
G.L-W.>>And there are some who are sufficiently trusted to KNOW who it is. Clearly those posting as Skeptyk have shown they can not be trusted on any count as they are liars, cowards and dishonest.<<
– he may convince you that he is a Gerard Batten ‘fan’. He probably couldn’t pick Batten out of an ID parade consisting of 1 person.
G.L-W.>>Please be assured that Tim could pick him out in a random crowd of 1,000 people with ease, it is probable that Tim could pick him out by either voice or siloette alone – even probably by style of speech or the written word and probably by hand writting or hand shake, laugh or gesture.
I wonder if each of those posting as Skeptyk could make that claim! Again Skeptyk’s spin and dishonest inference based on not a single fact, yet again, is made to try to defame but speaks volumes of the dishonesty of Skeptyk.<<
To view the original self serving pack of lies from the maggots Skeptyk CLICK HERE
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Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/05/2011
Clearly only a child or a fool would believe such a statement or of course someone who was a proven liar and utterly corrupt sycophant like Mick McGough – of no personal merit or worth who found with his tongue firmly placed for licking their incompetence and vile personality was overlooked!
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Hi,
I have unfortunately only received the comments of the main protagonist and an aside from Steve Allison – suffice to say with information leaks there are perforce some parts missing!
Though it seems Douglas Denny is in his dottage waking up to the reality that he has been duped and taken for the fool he so clearly was.
Perhaps it is his conscience after so many defamatory lies and general dishonesty that Denny used in the past to abuse people who dared to seek out the truth which so embarrassed him he felt the need to cover his personal involvement and that of his ‘chums’.
Unfortunately I do not have the whole of his confession nor the documentation which he had but I understand he has now handed to a UKIP MEP – lt us see what integrity that MEP can muster!
In answer to the Strap Line:
Those who seek to undermine Farage undermine UKIP.
It would seem Douglas Denny comments:
This statement is heavily loaded with innuendo and is inaccurate. Not everyone who wishes to undermine the Leader are ( -actively- for that is what is implied) {wishing} to undermine the party. They may have other valid reasons for not wishing to co-operate with the Leader. It happens in all political parties.
This is not to approve of course, of Marta biting the hand that fed her – and I mean the party.
I have read the “blogg” article and and it is a very pro-Nigel Farage homily spun with no acknowledgement or account of the known failings of NF which, in themselves, have in the past and possible present, caused problems for the party.
The author forgets: it takes two to Tango.
———–I made it clear I did not want Nigel to be Leader again at the leadership elections and said exactly why – and those reasons are now becoming apparent, especially the main one which I will now repeat. (On this private forum only).
I emphasise have not publicly criticised Nigel since the leadership election as he is the Leader, and does indeed have a large mandate from the membership.
That is not to fail to recognise and deny he has faults however, but I do not fully express them now as it is counter-productive to the party. If this is the only point Mr. Heaver is trying to make, then I agree with him.What I think is worth repeating though is: I think the main problem with any leader of a political party is they develop enemies and malcontents within the party and without, with their leadership, over a long period of time if they stay in the job for a very long period. Margaret Thatcher is a classic axample of this. She was an excellent Leader, but they still threw her out for spurious reasons. That is why I think leaders should stand down, or be changed regardless every now and then. (Every three or five years? -debate).
This effect causes problems of the kind we are now seeing. It is up to those who are malcontent for whatever reasons to either pull their weight behind the party or re-consider what they are doing.
Leadership does not mean there is an automatic requirement of blind obedience from others however (unless you are in the military) – it means bringing people together towards a common cause through example and charisma so that people want to to follow….. Douglas Denny.
Steve ALLISON SAID:
Whatever our differences, we must now unite behind the Party Leader http://michaelheaversblog.blogspot.com/2011/05/those-who-seek-to-undermine-nigel.html
I have read the “blogg” article and and it is a very pro-Nigel Farage homily spun with no acknowledgement or account of the known failings of NF which, in themselves, have in the past and possible present, caused problems for the party.
Steve Allisons comment:
Doug, you didn’t need to read the blog post to know this. All you need to read was the title and the name of the author. There are certain people in this party for whom the concept of Nigel not being 100% correct is something they cannot even imagine, let alone actually put into words. To expect Michael Heaver to question Farage in any way is like expecting a blog post by a Catholic Cardinal questioning the doctrine of Papal Infallibility! Unthinkable.
All Hail!! Gaius Nigellus Caesar! Those who speak ill of him do so of the Republic! Yea, kneel down and kiss of his arse, mortals!!!Nigel’s a good bloke, we get it. I certainly support him; but there are reasons to criticise him and the one thing that is guaranteed to destroy a political party in a democracy is a sycophantic personality cult that rewards toadying – sorry, “loyalty” – to a man over wisdom and competence and devotion to a cause.
If UKIP takes that route, it is no better than the LibLabCon parties and its high admonitions on the lack of’democracy’ and ‘liberty’ are not worth a fig.
Steve Allison’s response:
This is exactly the route that UKIP is taking! Any organisation that believes it is 100% dependent upon one man for its success or failure has started down the path to ultimate destruction. Graveyards are full of people who were indispensable!. If the crash last year had been serious enough that Nigel had died, which I would never wish on anyone, even my worst enemy, or he had been so badly injured that he had to leave politics, are these people who claim Nigel is UKIP’s only hope also saying the party would have collapsed and now no longer exist?
When Nigel departs UKIP, because it is WHEN and not IF, then UKIP will continue and may even be stronger in the long term, in fact I think it will be stronger in the long term without Nigel. Any gardener will tell you that when one branch on a bush grows so large that it overshadows the rest of the the branches then it’s time for the overgrown branch to be pruned back, otherwise the shape of the bush is destroyed and the longer the singe branch is allowed to grow the harsher the pruning becomes!
Douglas Denny adds his farthing’s worth:
I disagree with this statement too which is also inaccurate.
There were other suitable candidates, two of which would have made perfectly good leaders in my opinon; an opinon based on having supported three Leaders already in the past and seen their efforts.
As Steve Allison rightly says – if Nigel had been killed in the aircraft crash UKIP would have gone on regardless, and would still achieve the kind of success we already enjoy. The party would have gone in a different direction in some respects, which might or might not have speeded up that process. Overall though, it is my experience in politics that leaders efforts are more useful during thier term with infrastructure changes and general party direction, and the aspect of personalities only becomes important and into the forefront of politics if they are in the focus of the media, – which for UKIP is at election times – and only if they get the media presence, and that only in the last week before an election.
——–The reason Nigel had such a large poll with the members is because they have never heard of the others much at all, excepting DCB perhaps. He did not do well, so cannot have such a well-known or acceptable profile in the party as I thought might be the case. Nigel, however, is so well known in the party you could put him up for election as God and he will probably get 60%.
Tim Congden would have made an excellent leader, and I like his stance on MEPs and UKIP’s efforts being more UK-centric, which resonates with me a lot, so if there is another leadership election in due course and he stands I shall have to think carefully next time who to go for depending on the candidates and their policy in this respect. Who knows? TC could be the one !
Some others might make good leaders too, but were total unknowns.Douglas Denny.
Then in response to an apparent interjection Denny continues:
No spat here on this subject. It’s called rational, informed debate.
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This minion, dogsbody, jobbing party worker would like to know what the MEPs are doing exactly too but does not actually know, as he is not told.
Whatever it is, it is, but one thing’s for sure – if it’s in Brussels, it is of little use to getting Britain out of the EU.I find snippets of information about what they do from the internet like you.
Douglas.
It would seem that Douglas Denny is making steps, all be they tiny, towards honesty and telling the truth which must be very difficult for him after so many years telling lies, cheating and inventing childish conspiracy theories to cover up the corruption he was party to.
Leopards DO change their spots – it is a measure of their maturity!
Though I doubt Douglas Denny will ever be man enough to apologise for his lies and his defamatory comments and inventions regarding myself, Niall Warry and others.
See the original article at CLICK HERE
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Posted in David BANNERMAN MEP, Douglas DENNY, Gregory EVANS, Mick McGOUGH, Nigel FARAGE MEP, Steve ALISON, Tim Congdon, UKIP | Leave a Comment »
Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 21/04/2011
Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable!
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I haven’t even read my ‘e’Mails today! But please bear with me as I had my first dose of heavy duty ‘cocktail’ chemotherapy and a wonderfull aray of pills today and I’ve run out of time!
IF you want to follow the details of the treatment over the last 13 years and follow as I beat the obscene disease yet again just scan down the RIGHT SIDEBAR and CLICK ON the Pic. of the ‘WARM HANDS’ being washed!
You might wish to join with filth like Mick McGough who dragged CIB, UKIP, The TFA and others into the gutter he inhabits with his published glee at a supporter of UKIP The CIB and The TFA who has spent many years opposing Britain’s membership of The EU – A sad reflection of what thes organisations making money as they ride on the gravy train consider TRUE BRITISH VALUES!
We note Anthony Butcher hosts McGough’s filth at:
http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/ukip/90831-collection-anti-ukip-greg.html
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Hi,
a busy day so please accept the haste.
I received this which may interest you
Mr West, A friendly warning. Peter Reeve and others have contacted several members of UKIP about you. They have been advised to contact the radio station where you work with allegations of racism. ‘The worse the better so he loses his job’ were the words used. That they consider this acceptable behaviour disgusts me. They have lost my support forthwith.(REDACTED)
I am aware of the author and have checked the veracity to the best of my ability and it ties in with filth published by another of UKIP’s parasites Skeptyk and also endless childish attacks from the serial liar Mick McGough.
No doubt incresing numbers of UKIP genuine supporters not looking to feed their bank accounts or egos at the expense of their Country will be realising that not only is Mick McGough a proven liar but also willing to sell out his own associates for personal gain and Independent UKIP and the sad failure Skeptyk who have both, for all their lies and posturing just like Stuart Parr and others been made to look complete idiots and clearly dishonest.
Endlessly these maggots that have sought to exploit the EU and UKIP for personal gain find they are proved liars over and over. Endlessly they claim that my Blog publishes untruths yet in the many 1,000s of postings I have made they have utterly failed to identify a single consequential fact that I have published that is materially untrue.
However as they leap up and down in the gutter the ordure they coat themselves with their unpleasant, dishonest and childish behaviour has shown ever more what odious cowards they are.
As with Mick McGough and Douglas Denny their lies over several years are beneath contempt.
Let us consider THE FACTS provided by the mailing I have published above.
I gather not a single letter of complaint regarding John West’s broadcasts has been recived in the 7 or 8 months he has hosted and also co-hosted two breakfast shows a week at ICR. We then have the proof positive that incitement to defame and lie was published by Mick McGough, Skeptyk, Peter Reeve and others and a tiny weenie flurry of near identiacal libelous, defamatory and dishonest lies arrive at ICR and when the chppie running the station writes to each complainant not one has the intelligence or morality to write and apologise.
I note Skeptyk also lied about John West requesting the removal of a copyright picture from his blog. Perhaps Skeptyk might care to substantiated this lie as he claims he was written to he can very easily publish John West’s letter.But of course he can’t as John West has never sent such a letter and yet again Skeptyk is proven to be a liar.
I have a feeling that within the month UKIP are likely to realise just how big a mistake they have made in inciting this vile underhand and cowardly attack on John West has been.
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This new site was launched on the 20-Apr-2011 and would seem to have much going for it as it is aimed at assisting EUroSceptics, EUroRealists and activists alike – seemingly with a help line.
I wish the site well and hope it lives up to my personal hopes.
On the subject of Resource Sites – do not forget the various links in the Right Sidebar of this blog and many of my other blogs.
Do not forget to take advantage of the LINKS in The TABS at the head of the current blog daily.
I understand a New Resource that may well become of much note and more embarrassment to The EU is scheduled to be launched during this coming weekend – but more of that then!
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here is another all to typical mailing – this time regarding Mid Suffolk.
From: (REDACTED)
To: (REDACTED)
Subject: RE: UKIP Mid Suffolk
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Dear Sir,
I vote UKIP and was disappointed that their were was no candidate for my area! Conservative, Liberal, Labour and Green Party……UKIP could have used this election, an opportunity missed.
To keep and increase the support of the UKIP possible voters lets hear a bit more on issues in the media by some of the elected members who are not shy or able to put across the views written
Thank You
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The danger the correspondent faces is that if people are NOT selected by a democratic process unfortunately one ends up with individuals being elected based upon lies and dishonesty and using Conservative oriented and sponsored so called PR agencies like Athena-PR to gain advantage – interestingly a fact that only came to light when this blog published the fact that Nigel Farage employed a professional agency to ensure his election.
You may remember his previous placement as leader was also founded on lies and dishonesty that emmanated from the Party’s own returning officer – who was sacked from the job for his corruption and by the lies of UKIP salaried Press Officers!
UKIP internal elections and selection processes have similar levels of integrity to those of Godfrey Bloom’s favourite baboon!!! CLICK HERE & HERE
It is also valid to ask oneself if it is better to field no candidate rather than make the party look crass by fielding a shy and retiring school girl taking her ‘A’ levels who will not be interviewed nor provide a photograph or statement when seeking office of Mayor of Leicester as is Regine Anderson, on behalf of UKIP CLICK HERE
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As I say, hilarity. Arising from hypocrisy and crass stupidity.
‘Allowing smoking in a pub not a real crime’? Would it be a crime if it wasn’t Nick Hogan? What constitutes a crime in that case, or is it a matter of who commits it?
It’s always worth coming on here for a smile. Anyway, here’s today’s mental exercises for the sagacious law professors, ethicists and elevated equestrians pitching in here(answer ALL questions):
Law: civil and criminal
1) Is entering premises and intentionally stealing documents from a someone a crime? (OK, a hint: section 9 of the Theft Act 1968) (10 points)
2) If a tiny part of the contents of said documents (e.g. a contract) are then posted on a website, is that a criminal or civil offence? Explain your choice. (No more hints – you’ve had one!) (20 points)
3) If person A sends person B a private e-mail, containing a viciously untrue allegation, then promulgates it to all and sundry within an organisation with a view to destroying person B’s reputation by nature of the allegation, what offence has been committed? (20 points)
Ethics
4) Person A sends someone Private Messages in an internet forum, then uses the forum to complain that they have been discussing / publishing the contents of those messages with other people. Person B sends Person A Private Messages, which another party, Person C then hints strongly to B the contents of the messages he sent to A. What kind of character is Person A? (Assume – correctly – that B does NOT disclose the contents of PM’s, e-mails or other discretions.) (25 points)
5) If Person A from Q.4, operates the website mentioned in Q.2, is there a criminality issue / moral conflict? (25 points and a Gold star for the best answer!)
EndsI won’t enter the discussion of the merits of the Denby / Bloom situations, I think they’re both overblown teacup storms, indicative of deeply sinister, cliquey croneyism and hysterical mischief-making, both as destructive as each other.
For me, I cannot stop thinking about my (fairly lengthy) chat at the leadership hustings last autumn, where I was regaled with stories of planned “professionalisation” of a certain entity. Seems like years ago.
Steve
It is particularly interesting to note that the author of this is a Branch Chairman still and has been a dedicated supporter who has in the past stood, at his own expense, in elections for UKIP yet seemingly Bromsgrove is now only fielding a single paper candidate- One must assume as a resuult of watching the lies and antics of UKIP leadership towards their local UKIP elected MEPs Nikki Sinclaire and Mike Nattrass both of whom have endeavoured to give of their best to the local party and also local issues.
That allegations of theft were made against John Ison and that even the media did not believe him, when he was put up to his malicious betrayal of trust, is now a matter of widespread knowledge, even made fun of on the floor of The EU pretend parliament!
Whether the Police take action against him is a matter for The CPS but it is clear to me that absolutely no credence has been given to the odious little man by either the press, the police or OLAF.
My appologies to Steve Morson for having posted his public domain posting onto this blog without his express permission, but he was either out or not taking phone calls this evening.
Steve Morson knows from past experience I always seek to obtain either the author’s permission or two or more reliable sources for private texts, also where possible I try to contact individuals to ensure they will stand by their claims made in the public domain.
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No doubt these new staff are to makke it easier for Farage to betray the party and with his sycophants and self seekers like Mick McGough, Stuart Agnew, William Dartmouth, David Bannerman, Marta Andreasen and others seek to dump the principles and values of UKIP in favour of Pan EU Party Allegiances with appeasers rather than act with integrity as withdrawalists.
Another brief pointer for UKIP having been found Guilty on various counts relative to Nikki Sinclaire and with no sign of UKIP doing anything constructive other than madly stall to try to keep their behaviour out of the media until AFTER the elections – A point Douglas Denny may wish to raise when next he has the courage to challenge Nigel Farage on matters of integrity, probity, transparency and so very much more!
Posted in CIB, Douglas DENNY, Godfrey BLOOM MEP, Independent UKIP, John Ison, Mick McGOUGH, Nigel FARAGE MEP, Nikki SINCLAIRE MEP, Skeptyk, Steve MORSON, TFA, ThEUnit, UKIP | Leave a Comment »
Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/04/2011
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Hi,
as I learned many years ago it is essential when taking a public stance as when one writes a blog or articles in the media to ensure that everything one publishes is accurate, informative, provable and fact.
It is sad that UKIP have not learned this lesson and thus they are just not trusted – how can one gather together a claque of self serving low lifes willing to lie, cheat, abuse and defame and then still expect the public to support you?
I appreciate a percentage of the public CAN be duped by a party like UKIP but UKIP seem not to realise just how relentless an enemy one makes when one lies to gain support and then attacks people who dare to question!
Thomas Jefferson understood this all too well but UKIP has never learned the lesson and has thus made, of some of its most active supporters, implacable enemies CLICK HERE & follow the links!
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“It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among [my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person, the hatred they bore to his political opinions.”
UKIP quite clearly has a small army of parasites ever willing to bring UKIP into disrepute by their comments and their behaviour – frequently of a vile, ill informed and dishonest nature, hidden by cowards behind anonymity – such as:
Independent UKIP
Skeptyk
Gothmog (William Shaw)
Baron von Lotsov
etc.
or those with no reputation for honesty or integrity worth protecting – such as:
Mick McGough
Douglas Denny
Mark Croucher
Gawain Towler
Annabelle Fuller
Derek Clark
etc.
Sadly the list is long and is a measure of the suitability of UKIP in terms of responsibility and election.
Unless UKIP is cleaned-up and probity, morality, transparency and honesty are held as virtues they are not worthy of a single vote – we can have liars, cheats, fiddlers, fools and the self serving by voting for the 3 professional Parties who I grant are little better but at least they have experience and a structure!
It was said of America that its oldest tradition was its youth!
Sadly UKIP’s seeming ONLY attribute is a sham amateurism seemingly designed for the self agrandisement and enrichment of a small claque – Those best rewarded would seem to be those who are most willing to dissemble and dishonour the principles of the gullible and decent majority in the party.
UKIP’s tragedy is and has always been lack of competent leadership.
There is no doubt that UKIP have in Farage a huge asset but without competent management he all too frequently presents as a huge ass rather than asset.
Sadly UKIP has squandered this asset by making their performer their leader and it is clear he is NOT a leader – hence so very many of the individuals of competence, the activists and the intelligent have so very noticeably quit the party. This has left space for the corrupt, the dishonest, the self seekers and the sycophants and as a result the party is seen as a squabbling nest of vipers.
It is noted that even Stuart Wheeler clearly does not trust the leadership of the party and has put in place efforts to make them behave like adults and the most common claim as to why one should support UKIP is that they are the acceptable face of The BNP and Farage & Croucher made huge efforts to position the party as little more than an alternative to The BNP and a vote to teach Westminster a lesson for its allowances scams in the knowledge that UKIP would not gain a seat at Westminster!
May I submit Thomas Jefferson might well have been commenting on UKIP when he said:
“If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people, under the pretense of taking care of them, they must become happy. … I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.”
Posted in Annabelle FULLER, Derek Clark MEP, Douglas DENNY, Gawain TOWLER, Gothmog, Mick McGOUGH, Nigel FARAGE MEP, Skeptyk, Stuart WHEELER, Thomas JEFFERSON | Leave a Comment »
Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/04/2011
Then there is a small army of liars, cheats, abusers all too willing to drag UKIP’s reputation in the gutter where they clearly belong such as Skeptyk, John Ison in various guises as with Mark Croucher, Annabelle Fuller in other guises and by her behaviour, Independent UKIP and many more – seeking to keep their status through dishonesty.
Too cowardly to put their names to their lies!
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Ian Gillman 
Junior Member 
Originally Posted by skeptyk 
So very typical of the offensive style of dishonest posting many have come to expect from scum like Skeptyk!
In response Ian Gilman made the facts very clear rebutting the lies of Skeptyk, who has proved time and again to be dishonest, a liar and deliberately intent on misleading UKIP members on public Forums in support of UKIP’s corruption, dishonesty and leadership – very clearly dragging UKIP into the gutter they inhabit!
Sir,
I have certainly NOT made a complaint to OLAF about Mr Derek Clark MEP, or any other MEP/member of staff.
Nor have I been interviewed concerning these matters as reported. Had I been; I would certainly not be writing here about the matter.
Please would you be king enough to pass this fact on, including to Mr Clark & Mr Farage; and be certain that the truth is spread.Paranioa and guilt complexes produce odd effects in humans.
My only knowledge of the E.U. fraud office OLAF investigations into Mr Clark has arrived from others, countrywide in fact. I have read upon the internet Case numbers/investigation references, and listened carefully to others talking about the matter.
I was briefed last autumn that during a regional meeting Mr Clark in fact denied any such investigation of him to a room of members. Catagorical : no investigation, ever.
I / We were briefed that when such questions about OLAF / Mr Clark were raised he explained I am assurred , that it was all lies, the numbers pertaining to an investigation were fakes, and correspondence about it a fraud.
Thus; evidently according to Mr Clark himself , as reported around by others; his OLAF investigation does not exist, and never did either.
Now please understand the following; quietly take it on board please.
NEC meeting, 10/2005. Precis only.
I was the only person present to attempt to do something about Tom Wise MEP. As I did so heads bowed to blotters.
I was threatened then.
Evidently threats to and against me were to be carried from that room , and were designed to intimidate me.
Mr Wise was to be jailed perhaps for thefts, fraud and moneylaundering.
Further; Mr Wise had destroyed and perhaps profitted from a legally constituted fundraising effort, UKIP Wine World, ( conceived and se-up by me) which had a legal status through and via the NEC and H.M. Customs / Commercial Bank. Mr Wise has never produced accounts/VAT evidence/Import licence details/bonded warehouse details/ Import details from The Lebanon; pertaining to this.
The fundraising was in response to Mr David Lott reporting a £ 93,000 debt from the 05 General Election (Charlie Endell describes the actual source of monies eventually used to cover the debt; via European funds ? )
At that NEC frauds were described.Frauds that would cause the Revenue and police “to lock us all up” according to one member present.
I understood the ‘jointly & severally liable’ status of NEC members.
I was a volunteer who had given much to the party.
I wished for no part in frauds .Utterly pointless and destructive.
I resigned from the NEC . I thought that would be the end of the matter.I did nothing but resign,
Immediately nasty things began to happen to me. I do seriously mean nasty things. Also to my family , my mother; unconnected with politics was traced and evidently threatened.
Someone upon that NEC passed my details to Beds. Police. I do not know who.
Beds Police investigating UKIP MEP; Mr Tom Wise contacted me about that NEC , UKIP Wine World etc.
I was read a transcript of parts of that NEC, my words and those of others were 100% accurate.
I do not know who provided those details. Nor do I wish to.
Leading up to the court case I was evidently intimidated to an extent that there were those perhaps hoping that I would lose my nerve concerning my evidence and attending Crown Court. I did not, and never would have.
Now sir, kindly pass on the original answers to your question to Mr Clark and Mr Farage; and stop creating inacurrate information and gossip.
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Posted in Annabelle FULLER, Athena-PR, Derek Clark MEP, Douglas DENNY, Mark CROUCHER, Mick McGOUGH, Nigel FARAGE MEP, Skeptyk, Tom WISE UKIP MEP, UKIP NEC | Leave a Comment »
Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/04/2011
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Hi,
sadly UKIP has been so terribly damaged as our lifeboat they have by and large lost their activists and their core supporters.
Clearly the leadership has little interest in Britain or the party all but head down in the troughs on the gravy train – I concede the message they pretend to carry is popular and has maintained their normal membership of around 10,000 of any meaning for all they may have signed up the occupants of a number of care homes!
UKIP Leadership has made it clear that it is all about their positioning at the troughs on the gravy train what with trying hard to sell the obscene concept of PEPPs to help The EU and earn their bribes for services to The EU.
We note the huge amount of publicity engineered for Jane Collins in her last bye election but of course that was to desperately TRY to raise their profile for their attempted re-launch conference where desppite somewhere around £1/4 Million for PR Agencies and Press Staff they managed to get almost ZERO publicity bar a fleeting glimpse on The BBC web site that was of no consequence.
Yet again and again we get the myth that by joining with racists, xenophobes, anti Jewish and violent anti homosexual pro EU reformists in The Pan EU Political Party EFD Group UKIP will have a higher profile – yeah indeed HIGH like Gorgonzolla!
Currently UKIP Leadership and the maggots feeding on the corpse STINK and the stench of corruption is all pervading.
It seems their only policy is to use hirelings and filth like McGough, Douglas Denny and an army of dishonest cowards too ashamed to put their name to their lies and bullying like Independent UKIP, Skeptyk, Stathan, Baron von Lottsov and otjher corrupt clowns and low lifes – THEY HAVE NO Vision, NO Strategy, NO Tactics and clearly NO ETHICS.
Jane are you daft or just gullible – have you money to burn or just lack the intelligence to fund a good cause – try the dogs home!
ACTIVISTS on the ground are more important than vast sums of money, according to the biggest-spending UK Independence Party (UKip) candidate.
Jane Collins trailed in fourth in Scunthorpe with just 1,686 votes, despite spending £10,072 during the campaign – more than any of her rivals. Labour held the seat with 14,640 votes despite a strong challenge from the Conservatives, who polled 12,091.“I decided I wanted to put some money into the campaign,” said Ms Collins. “It was a bit of an experiment to see how it affected the result in Scunthorpe. But because of the determination to keep the Conservatives out and the determination of the Conservatives to get in – they made very big inroads – my campaign made very little difference.“You can spend what you like but if you don’t door knock and get in touch with the people and create enough of a rapport with them to get the ball rolling, you can spend what you like but it won’t make any difference.”Labour’s Nic Dakin, who won the seat with a majority of more than 2,500, spent just £6,957.36 – less than half that of Ms Collins.Across 39 seats in the region, UKip spent £66,088.47 but failed to make a breakthrough.Meanwhile candidates for the British National Party spent nearly £20,000 failing to make a breakthrough in the region – including £1,171 fighting against former Cabinet Minister Ed Balls in Morley and Outwood.
To view the original article CLICK HERE
Building a Party is not just from the bottom up, working with activists it is based on trust and built over a long lead time – not like Delboy turning up on the day chucking other peoples’ cash at it and hoping to find a bargain.
Politics is all about trust and reliability two commodities UKIP seems deliberately to have squandered importing a claque of vile and dishonest liars who seemingly are paid and rewarded to praise their idiotic leadership team and its obscene chums.
Nigel Farage may well have a winsome way and a quick mouth but in politics you play the long game NOT the quick buck. You seek a reputation for gravitas and probity not cheap shot clever dick. You hunt out reliable contacts NOT trash you can pick up in any gutter.
The serious question that must be asked is has UKIP a future or has it so befouled itself that it will just bump along enriching a few and as with the last election capitalising on misconception and public hatred opf politicians.
Is it ANY wonder that in a recent poll MEPs were top of the Poll as THE MOST HATED & DESPISED OCCUPATION!.
Posted in Activists, Douglas DENNY, Ed Balls, Jane COLLINS, Mick McGOUGH, Nigel FARAGE MEP, Scunthorpe | Leave a Comment »
Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 01/04/2011
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Dear All
Please circulate these to all Branch Chairmen, Secretaries and Membership Secretaries as soon as possible, with the reminder that NO membership applications will be now accepted unless submitted on a form on which the applicant has signed the declaration that they agree to abide by the Constitution of UKIP and the Terms and Conditions of Membership (available to view at http://www.ukip.org).
UKIP Terms & Conditions of Membership
Membership shall start from the date of receipt of the initial membership subscription and continue for the number of years for which the subscription has been paid.
Membership subscriptions are not normally refundable.
Members shall be considered to be fully paid-up until the end of the month of expiry. Membership shall be considered to have lapsed if not renewed within a further two months.
The Party may refuse or rescind an application for membership if the National Executive Committee considers that the application does not fulfil the criteria for membership as set out in the Party Constitution.
The Party Secretary has the right to suspend or expel members who clearly bring the Party into disrepute by association with or membership of an organisation, membership of which the NEC has declared to be incompatible with membership of the Party.
Membership is not available to anyone who is or has previously been a member of the British National Party or the UK First party. Any applications made from people who are or have been members of these organisations will be refused, and any subscriptions collected will be refunded. By applying for membership you certify that you are not and have never been a member of either of these parties.
Any action under paragraph 5 shall be confirmed by the NEC at the earliest opportunity.Regards, Steve.
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Stephen Crowther, Executive Chairman, UK Independence Party
Eastacombe House, Heanton Punchardon, Barnstaple, N Devon EX31 4DG..
Phone 01271 813844. Mobile 07775 787579
Which has of course led to these comments on the UKIP controlled Forum:
No surprise there then!!!!!!!!!
Junius on UKIP: UKIP: Nigel Farage seeking far-right support & who is Alex Bejamin?
Farage Looks To The Far Right For Support
Nigel Farage, who is struggling to keep his EFD group together following two resignations in the month of March, is again looking to the far-right for help. Austrian lawyer Ewald Stadler is set to become an MEP in January, when the Lisbon Treaty comes into force and new MEPs will take their seats. Stadler, who is a member of the Austrian BZO party is currently negotiating with Farage over his possible membership of the EFD group.
The BZO was founded by Jörg Haider, who would have been no stranger to Stadler, as he himself is a former member of the Austrian Freedom Party, Haider’s pro-SS nationalist party.
The BZO has some interesting policies: like another far-right Austrian politician, they appear to have what might be best described as a ‘Nazi’ manifesto. They want German taught in schools, and a limit on numbers of non-speaking children. (What they do with the surplus is anybody’s guess – they came up with a pretty horrific solution in the last century). They advocate forced tuition in German for immigrants.
They also want to nationalise agriculture, in a nod towards the Nazi policy of ‘Blood & Soil’ agrarianism, and are also in favour of increased taxation. As well as favouring a flat-rate tax – something that Farage himself flirted with a few years ago – they want to introduce a new ‘Business tax’ of 25%, and also favour the so-called ‘Tobin Tax’. The latter really gives Stadler’s game away, as the Tobin tax is a tax on international currency transactions which, in the small minds of the Neo-Nazis, will negate the influence of the ‘Jewish Usurer’.
Nice one Nigel, now you are seeking favours from Nazis – the filthiest scum in the universe. But as we know, like attracts like!
Alex Benjamin
Have you ever heard the name of Alex Benjamin? Probably not. He reads this blog and has even posted a comment on a previous post. (LINK) He was a press officer with the Conservative Party in Brussels, but he was not particularly good, so they sacked him. He was certainly not popular within the Tory ECR group! A skinhead type, with a passing resemblance to the comedian Alexi Sayle, he was always regarded as a bit of a comic himself.
But he is lucky. In Brussels there is a sanctuary for useless and failed conservatives. It is called ‘Farage’s UKIP’. And so Benjamin will now work alongside the Republican Herman O’Kelly in the EFD press office.
Benjamin is understood to be less than happy about this, but he needs the work. And if he cuts the mustard, he can always take the job with a certain portly Tory MEP that he has been provisionally promised next year! A deal which, by the way, Farage is aware of.
Isn’t politics great?
Interestingly this is the same UKIP that, despite alliance with the extremist right EFD Group, having fallen below the requisite numbers and having also by losing 3 MEPs so far has fallen in stature within the group finding he no longer controls the biggest party within this squalid group – we now find them Courting extrimists across The EU.
I am the first to renounce ANY kind of support for The BNP and its vile views and values and I renounce ALL such similar racist, xenophobic, anti Jewish anti homosexual groups and it is sad to see UKIP so befouled as to be promoting the various BNPesque extremists across The EU yet lacking the integrity to admit their own racist BNP in blazers as displayed by the tasteless, incompetent and crass comments of the Zionist Lord Pearson who acted as puppet for Farage for a short period making a complete fool of himself as the fake leader.
There is something vile about people who loudly renounce the anti Jewish, racist, anti homosexual and xenophobic behaviour for which The BNP is well known yet when they believe they can get away with it will support just those views be it in agreement or merely for money.
Who would want this caliber of low life as one’s political leaders?
So NO to British BNP but welcome to MONEY and Continental extremist gutter sweepings! Seems to be the motto – The Party has thus been prostituted!
However the fact that yet again there is yet another attempt to rewrite a new Constitution and another Manifesto, a task being undertaken by Michael Greaves I understand – The lack of Vision, the absence of Strategy, the dirth of Tactics, the failure of Leadership, the deficit of Professionalism, the shortfall of Structure and the absolute abrogation of Duty, Probity and Honour is quite staggering.
The entire scam that is UKIP leadership and its parasites seem utterly dependent on a claque of utterly repellent liars, bullies and the utter scum of politics like Mark Croucher, Mick McGough, David Bannerman, Stuart Agnew, Kevin Mahoney, Derek Clark, Skeptyk, Independent UKIP, Gawain Towler, Baron von Lottsov, Douglas Denny and numerous similar liars, cheats, low lifes and scoundrels.
Endlessly fantasising and dragging UKIP’s name into their gutter for their gain – idiots too stupid to see beyond their own personal self interest and gain. Childishly taunting anyone with whom they could not cope – Unable to find a single solitary untruth or misleading comment of any consequence in the 1,000s of postings regarding UKIP and also its parasites, maggots and leadership these sordid little Tykes chant and lie to give themselves courage – utterly unable to debate issues, too cowardly often to use their own names, these odious people have hugely demeaned UKIP and grossly harmed the party.
Consider a party that is thus founded and supported based on lies and dishonesty – a party that abuses its supporters and lies about them yet is too cowardly to use its own name and to gutless to respond to challenges to, rather than lie, stand up and cross examine myself and others where obviously we can show we have NEVER lied, never consequentially misled and ALWAYS supported the basic PRINCIPLES of the electorate and NOT the self interest and self enrichment of the leadership and its parasites.
Consider a party that pretends to professionalism yet, ignoring the outright lies of Malcolm Pearson, the dishonesty of its NEC and the many cullomnies exposed by the media – just consider this letter:
Date: 2011 Subject: Rule Book
From: sjcrowther@btinternet.com
To: michael.greaves@europarl.europa.eu
Dear Mr REDACTED
With reference to your letter of 23 March, may I apologise for my delay in replying to your earlier enquiry.
The answer to your question is that the Disciplinary Rules are a standalone document, which were headed with the ‘Rule Book’ titling to put them in context. The party has the capacity to create a Rule Book, but at the moment simply creates Rules for specific purposes, such as Discipline, the conduct of elections etc as they are required. So, there is not a unified Rule Book at present, though the concept of a Rule Book exists.
As our Constitutional arrangements are currently under review, I imagine that the Rule Book will be a more substantial entity in the future (subject to the agreement of the members).
I note your position regarding the disciplinary complaint against REDACTED and REDACTED, ie that you will not pursue this until the outcome of the hearing on REDACTED.
Yours,
—
Stephen Crowther, Executive Chairman, UK Independence Party
Lexdrum House, PO Box 408, Newton Abbot, Devon TQ12 9BG
A strange admission from Farage’s placeman!
May I remind readers that, as with all previous elections Farage has stood in internally, Farage has made much of his plan to professionalise UKIP – a task clearly beyond him as the party has become, less and less professional as this blog and the media have repeatedly shown.
The utter incompetence of UKIP leadership and the staggering lack of professionalism of their PR and Press Officers has been notable to both members and media alike – Where is the competent PR of the last 18 years? Indeed there have been a couple of items but sadly due to the sham scams of UKIP and the lack of competence and morality of its senior stafff any good publicity has been buried by stories of dishonesty and incompetence.
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