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#0458* – MIGHT UKIP be at RISK of a SEAT in Monmouthshire & Wales?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 05/05/2011

#0458* – MIGHT UKIP be at RISK of a SEAT in Monmouthshire & Wales?
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MIGHT UKIP be at RISK of a SEAT in Monmouthshire & Wales?
Even more intriguingly if they do scrape in might that be a disaster for EUroRealism in view of the calliber UKIP fielded!!

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Hi,
It looks to me as if UKIP would be in with around 7% of the vote on top up, in any one of the 5 areas, but with such spectaculary lack luster candidates who to a man are politically poorly informed it seems unlikely.
That said John Bufton got in and that was clearly not based on political understanding or speech making ability. Nor even keeping abreast of issues.
Further harm is done to UKIP’s prospects in Wales by the offensive and beligerent nauture of their Regional Organiser Kevin Mahonney who has worked so hard to abuse and offend UKIP supporters in Monmouthshire and Wales and even beyond.
UKIP’s presence has not been helped by its abject failure to keep its people informed and its dire web site, which at one time this year was over 3 months out of date, and it was not until this blog and also Junius highlighted the fact that someone in Wales woke up!

It has become increasingly clear that John Bufton besides the collapse in his health has had a crisis in faith with regard to UKIP’s new stance as supporters of racism, xenophobia, anti Judaism and violent anti homosexuality and it has reach such a stage that John Bufton as a withdrawalist was unwilling to join his party leader and the rag tag that forms his own Welsh committee for the launch of the UKIP campaign.

John clearly does not believe in the vaulte face of policy to supporting reform for the EU.
It is also risible that whilst UKIP not only espouse paper candidates to reach the mere 1,200 or so thery are standing in Britain they are happy to insult the electorate by placing a schoolgirl as their proposed candidate for Mayor to oversee the £Billion Budget of that city and deliver services via one of the East Midlands largest employers Leicester Council!

Meanwhile in Wales the exact opposite course is taken to not present a single solitary candidate but just a few pool candidates for indirect election on top up votes – the two policies are clearly mutually exclusive!

I have my doubts whether UKIP stands any chance of a candidate being elected – clearly it deserves none on its track record – also it is worth considering in the light of the irrefutable fact it has not fielded anyone of competence, gravitas, stature or charisma whether EUroRealism’s long term interests are best served by avoiding the risk of embarrassment that the likely candidates may heap on UKIP.
We have seen the damage done to UKIP’s credibility with the crass ineptitude of such as Wee Willy Dartmouth, David Bannerman, Tom Wise, Godfrey Bloom, Stuart Agnew, Derek Clark, Nigel Farage and the duplicitous Marta Andreasen and the false loyalty of John Wittaker and Paul Nuttall – particularly in their support of The Pan EUPolitical Party EFD Group – merely prostituting principles and ethics for perceived cash!

WALES

National Assembly elections
This is the first poll since 2007, after which Labour formed a coalition with Plaid Cymru.
As in Scotland, voters will be required to fill in two separate ballot papers.
Forty Assembly Members (AMs) will be elected from single constituencies under first-past-the-post. The second ballot will be used to elect four AMs from each of five electoral regions under a party list.
There have been no major boundary changes since 2007.
The new Assembly will have direct law-making powers in 20 devolved areas, such as health and education, after voters backed the move in a referendum in March.
Local council elections are due to take place next year.

Regards,

Greg L-W.
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#0457* – UKIP – NOT SO MUCH THE COMMENTS AS THE STUPIDITY

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/05/2011

#0457* – UKIP – NOT SO MUCH THE COMMENTS AS THE STUPIDITY
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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UKIP – NOT SO MUCH THE COMMENTS AS THE STUPIDITY!

The Invisible Man interviews UKIP Research Director who has failed to notice the car park is empty and it is Sunday morning on a bank holiday weekend.

It NEVER Pays to treat the supporters and electorate as idiots as Derek Clark so consistently does – no management, no skills and a complete collapse in membership from around 6,000 to about 400 in the East Midlands & thus no viable candidates!

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Leicester by-election candidate’s anger at criticism of blog post

Pandya
UKIP by-election candidate Abhijit Pandya
UKIP by-election candidate Abhijit Pandya has responded after he was criticised for writing a blog post about Islam.
Last week, the Leicester South election candidate wrote an article which called Islam “morally flawed and degenerate” and said he backed a controversial Dutch politician, who called Islam “a retarded ideology”.
In an editorial in the Mercury, we criticised his comments.
Now, a video has been uploaded to Mr Pandya’s blog showing him turning up at the Mercury’s closed offices on Sunday and complaining that no-one was there to talk to him about the issue.
He says in the video:
“They’ve published this thing, the Leicester Mercury, about my blog, and they’re not coming out to actually confront me or speak to me. I think it’s absolutely totally appalling.
“The building is empty. We rang these people, they’re not picking up the phones.
“They have published something that says ‘do not vote UKIP’ and that’s just absolutely extraordinary for a newspaper to do that.
“Does that mean that a newspaper is completely unbiased and doing the public a favour by neutral reporting? I don’t think so.
“There are issues here that we really need to confront and look at, and this newspaper is not giving me a fair say in its coverage and also telling people not to vote for my party.”

A message then appears on screen which says: “So what would you say to the Leicester Mercury if they could be bothered to speak to you?”
He then addresses a point off camera.
However, it is unclear whether anyone is actually standing there.
He said in the video he had a problem with the Mercury’s article, saying he had made unsubstantiated comments about Muslims in his blog.
He added: “That isn’t the case, I’ve made it quite absolutely clear what the problems are amongst the Muslim community in Britain, particularly those that affect Leicestershire and Leicester South – the constituency I’m standing in.
“I think it’s absolutely appalling that 67 per cent of Muslims are unemployed at the moment in Britain, 75 per cent of them women.
“I think this is something we should look at seriously and not have censorship in the way that you have done from your newspaper.
“We don’t have a serious debate, we have silly faff-around reporting as your newspaper has done over the last week. We’re never going to deal with this problem.
He also said: “It’s appalling today that I’ve come here on Sunday there’s no-one here to talk to me about this issue – who’s actually written this article.
“Where is your editor and where is David MacLean, who’s been saying this silly stuff without editing it.”
Councillor Manjula Sood, chair of Leicestershire’s Council of Faiths, said: “Mr Pandya’s outrageous and out of order comments are not needed, especially in a city as diverse as Leicester.
“Singling out and attacking a single faith is simply unacceptable and all faiths in the city should condemn the comments.”

To view the original article CLICK HERE
READ THE BLOG POST.
WATCH THE VIDEO.

Leicester must be well impressed with UKIP with this silly self impressed wee chappie and being further impressed with the direct contempt UKIP has shown in standing as a paper candidate a schoolgirl to manage Leigester’s £Billion budget and services as Mayor.

Little wonder The Leicester Mercury makes a point of highlighting this chaps silly behaviour.
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#0456* – UKIP COULD HAVE ACHIEVED SO MUCH WITH LEADERSHIP

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/05/2011

#0456* – UKIP COULD HAVE ACHIEVED SO MUCH WITH LEADERSHIP!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
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UKIP COULD HAVE ACHIEVED SO MUCH WITH LEADERSHIP!
As Is Shown by Trevor COLMAN, Mike NATTRASS, Nikki SINCLAIRE & their hard working and dedicated staff!

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Hi,

congratulations as the campaign for a Petition for an In/Out EU Referendum continues apace with yet another advertisement in The Daily Mail:

Well done to the 3 UKIP elected MEPs Nikki Sinclaire MEP, Mike Nattrass MEP and Trevor Colman MEP who have opted to re-establish their credibility liberated from the thrall of the odious Pan EU EFD Political Group set up by Nigel Farage in return for money yet happy to espouse and support both morally and financially Racism, violent anti Homosexuality, pro EU membership with delusions of reform and anti Judaism.

Now they are free these 3 MEPs are able to extole and support the views and aims of the grass roots supporters of UKIP – the voters of their constituencies who put them in place to actively campaign to Leave-The-EU.

This is EXACTLY what they are doing for the electorate and working in conjunction with The Peoples’ EU Referendum Campaign Pledge which is sponsored by Tony Blackwell and managed by James Pryor and Bridget Rowe for the people WITHOUT the domination of Political self servers who just like UKIP’s discreditted leadership have their parasites having a hissy fit to TRY to sabotage these Patriotic initiatives.

Well done to Colman, Nattrass & Sinclaire.

I hear the click rate on the web site was notable and the calls consistent on Saturday with the first of the series of adverts. I gather the mail bag since has been spectacular and now with the second of these campaign ads I hear the phone and the web site are moving forward apace with yet more mail coming in.

Let us hope at about £10,000 per advert donations will pay to keep the campaign rolling forward.

It would be nice to see UKIP doing something worthwhile rather than squabbling like ferrets in a sack to establish their credentials for the crumbs from the troughs on the gravy train!

If only UKIP had leadership as it has in Nigel Farage a very competent salesman and performer but as a party has NEVER had leadership of any ability hence the odious parasites who scramble up the ladder on the dung heap that is the rump of UKIP having driven out anyone of calliber or competence.

There is no merit and the party is hugely demeaned by the endless bullying and lies promoted attacking anyone who dare seek to clean-up the party to try to make it a party decent informed folk might be prepared to support and vote for.

The greatest damage done to UKIP has clearly been done by the leadership team and its parasites who have shown it up for what it is a venal self serving and self enriching collection of individuals bereft of vision, values or morality.
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Posted in Bridget Rowe, Daily Mail, Mike Nattrass MEP, Nikki SINCLAIRE MEP, PETITION for an EU Referendum, Trevor COLMAN MEP | Leave a Comment »

#0455* – Not A Brain Between Them!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 04/05/2011

#0455* – Not A Brain Between Them!

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Not A Brain Between Them!
The Dross That Remains Is Indeed United In Its Greed & Self Service!!

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Hi,

Northern Ireland’s politics has never seemingly been about the issue at hand and here again we see UKIP seemingly choosing their supporters on some strange degredation of political values let alone aspirations.

Be it a politically correct choice of a schoolgirl as a Mayoral candidate in Leicester – a bimbette known to a tiny audience and for what in Northern Ireland or the support of a supremely out dated and unfunny old man.

Is there ANY sign of anyone of gravitas or merit supporting UKIP?

Is there ANY sign of someone even of competence supporting UKIP?

The closest I seem able to come to someone with SOME ability is the relatively recent support of Steven Woolfe who produces a UKIP controlled blog with an article about once a fortnight since January.

Unfortunately UKIP has a track record of loosing individuals of ability and integrity pretty rapidly

and leaving UKIP desperately struggling with the dross – It has however meant that if one is content with incompetence, racism, xenophobia, anti Judaism, corruption, bullying, violent anto homosexuality, cowards and posturing fools you will find a home in what is largely a unified sack of squabbling ferrets now that Farage as the so called leader has forced virtually anyone of ability or ethics out of the party – largely consigning UKIP to the gutter for the next few years.

You may of course see your values and roll models in their intellectual rump,

A Party bereft of dignity, gravitas or probity.

Sheltering behind a small army of parasites and maggots feeding on the public purse for personal gain and abusing and spreeding lies and fantasies about anyone who dare criticise them often from behind the cowardly cloak of anonymity in their shame.

However yes it can be said that largely the leadership and its more egregious parasites are increasingly united in their self serving and odious behaviour having lost sight of morality, ethics or basic decency as they plunge ever deeper into the thrall of The EU for their personal gain – prostituting the values and aspirations of the meres supporters in return for The EU bribes.
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#0454* – Mike NATTRASS Explains PETITION to Ian PROCTOR

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 02/05/2011

#0454* – Mike NATTRASS Explains PETITION to Ian PROCTOR
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Mike NATTRASS MEP Explains The PETITION to Ian PROCTOR and TRIES to explain how politics to Ian and other idiots who have lost the plot!!

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Hi,

I have just posted the following to some lad by the name of Graham Gillis who it seems knows little of UKIP, past or present, and seemingly also has little grasp of ethics, probity, morality or duty compounding his confussion as to how politics works!

In response to another fool who felt boot licking to Farage was a substitute for politics Mike Nattrass gave a fairly coherent retort – let us home the kids in UKIP have the intelligence to understand the posting:

To: ukipmep@hotmail.co.uk
CC: nikki@ukip.org; trevorcolman@btconnect.com; mcwilliam.steph@gmail.com; jeff.mager@btinternet.com
Subject: Petition
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011

Mike,

I have seen your idea of an advert for yet another petion.

Don’t you know that The Express delivered 1/3 million petitions to Downing Street recently, and were politely told to take them elsewhere?

Please would you spend your money on supporting the activists who actually got you elected.

Ian Proctor


From: mike nattrass
Sent: Sun, 1 May 2011 13:11
Subject: Petition

Ian,

This is a petition which was initiated last September by Nikki Sinclaire and has 60,000 plus signatures due to West Midlands UKIP member’s hard work in Market Places etc.

It went into the Daily Mail on Saturday (next to Royal Wedding photos!) and is already getting a great response.

The Express came to Nikki last year to see how is was being done and took the concept into their paper, with a great result. We have no problem with that as it increases awareness to Express readers, but what about the other readers?


The matter needs to be exposed nationwide and not just the in the Express.

This is all about a promise from the Government that petitions of over 100,000 would be considered in the Commons.

As you are well aware EU money cannot be spent directly on the Party so this is legally spent in an approved manner on our major objective, because it is “information.”

Please explain how this does not help the activists, when this is our objective for which we have worked for more than 15 years? Also how you would expect the MEP’s EU budget money to be legally spent? All suggestions very very welcome!

As for helping activists I do anyway, but not via my EU budget as that is illegal.

Sadly we could not use our UKIP Logo in the advert because Nikki (one of the three MEPs involved) is currently banned by the NEC from using the UKIP logo!

I hope this explains our thinking.

Mike 

Seems fairly straight forward to me – do not forget that Nigel’s utter incompetence as a leader with the imbecilic Godfrey Bloom led to a guilty verdict against them and UKIP for their public abuse and lies relative to Nikki Sinclaire.

Even yet Nigel’s errand boy is trying to cobble together a deal to keep him out of the High Court and substantial damages.
Unfortunately Farage’s utter lack of leadership skill has put him deep in the hole and digging furiously.
You will note from stupidity Farage IF he is Leader has recently opted to spend about £30K maybe substantially more of members money having wittingly recruited a BNP member yet unlawfully removing him and refusing to meet the paltry damages of £500!

Do TRY to wake up!

I would suggest foul language, lack of knowledge and ill mannered abuse serve UKIP ill when you try to defend them.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

PS.:
For more details on The Petition for an In/Out EUReferendum & The pledge for a Referendum of Tony Blackwell’s run by James Proy & Bridget Rowe – which Jon Gaunt is fronting:
CLICK HERE

The position of the advert couldn’t have been better on a page of wedding pictures on the lower right THE Best inside position:

Which shows the text up to best advantage with masses of space:

Well done to Mike Nattrass, Trevor Colman & Nikki Sinclaire who are doing exactly what UKIP members elected them to do – NO ONE with a brain In UKIP (I presume someone has one) ever voted for a UKIP politician to join Nigel Farage’s personal money spinner The EFD Group with its pro EU membership stance, non accountability of The 400 budget of £76,000 per MEP, nor are UKIP voters supporters of Racism, anti Judaism, violent anti homosexuality that The EU is funding its own progress by paying bribes to MEPs and Snivil Cervants alike is a travesty of Democracy.
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#0453* – UKIP’s DESTRUCTIVE LACK OF PROFESSIONALISM

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 01/05/2011

#0453* – UKIP’s DESTRUCTIVE LACK OF PROFESSIONALISM
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UKIP’s DESTRUCTIVE LACK OF PROFESSIONALISM!
IT SEEMS THE CHILDREN HAVE ESCAPED THE NURSERY!

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Hi,

it was sad to see such a display of unprofessionalism from Farage’s praise singers when I noted young Harry Aldridge trying to get party brownie points at the expense of both our Country and our elected MEPs who were working, and spending their money in defence of Britain and liberty.

Here is the lads posting on UKIP Yoooof:

YI Chairman Criticises Two UKIP MEPs

As the elected Chairman of Young Independence I feel obliged to condemn the unacceptable actions of two UKIP MEPs. Mike Nattrass and Trevor Colman, by helping to fund an advert promoting a rival political candidate, have let down both themselves and more importantly UKIP members and activists up and down the country.
UKIP MEPs must be team players. They are elected on a Party ticket, the public did not vote for any one individual. It is simply not acceptable for MEPs, with an inflated view of their importance, to wield the power of their positions as if they have a direct individual mandate.
All UKIP European Election Candidates signed and agreed to the MEP Code of Conduct which committed them to “promote UKIP’s objectives as set out in the party constitution and manifestos”, “pool group funds” and “work as a team”. The actions of Trevor Colman and Mike Nattrass directly contravene the code of conduct. The promotion of a rival candidate’s campaign – a campaign that duplicates the efforts of similar non-partisan campaigns that are supported by UKIP – is not productive and nor is it fair on the UKIP activists whose time, money and shoe leather won them their seats.
The public want to see a productive political party that is mature and able to work towards the common cause. This is something I take seriously. Discord is tiresome and off-putting to young members and harms our ability to capitalise on the best levels of public support the party has ever seen.
Members from around the country have expressed their upset and disgust at today’s advert and the actions of these MEPs. It is the branches and activists who feel directly the impact of their decisions.
They are acting as individuals, not as team players. Quite plainly if they seek to continue to work for themselves and not for UKIP’s cause then I sincerely hope that they are deselected as candidates at the next available opportunity.
UKIP needs committed individuals as MEPs who can provide the British public with a united radical opposition that they can support. That is what I and others in YI and the wider Party will continue to work towards.
Harry Aldridge
Chairman, Young Independence

One might have been a little more impressed had he not been weenie waggling in the most childish and un professional manner obviously way out of his depth and with UKIP lacking any credible leadership.

Perhaps, as he pretends to IT skills, he could have better serve the cause by updating some of the UKIP web sites – not least of which would be UKIP Yoooof  where he will note it is sop out of date it implies he has usurped the position of chairman from the other member trying to lick his way to a career in politics without the flair or charisma it used to take!

You will note if you CLICK HERE :

Contact the Young Independence Team

E-mail contact details:- 

 
whatever happened to Lisa Duffy wasn’t she the party official children’s bottom wiper and shelf stacker in charge of toys?
Then shortly after his fatuous posting on UKIP Yooof we find young Harry flexing his wee muscles amongst the adults on UKIP Forum and making more of a fool of himself:

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« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2011, 05:41:19 PM »

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I’ve published a statement on this as YI Chairman. I’m afraid it needs to be said.

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As the elected Chairman of Young Independence I feel obliged to condemn the unacceptable actions of two UKIP MEPs. Mike Nattrass and Trevor Colman, by helping to fund an advert promoting a rival political candidate, have let down both themselves and more importantly UKIP members and activists up and down the country.

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Shortly after we find he has not been noticed by enough people so he posts on the unofficial UKIP controlled Forum of Anthony Butcher’s under a pseudonym:

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Junior Member Kitto is just starting out Join Date Oct 2010 Posts 31

Let us ponder where next he may hope to be noticed in his anti British pro Farage sycophancy – How about the toe curlingly embarrassing Mrs. Dale’s Diary, ever willing to cosy up to Farage as noted in the past or will it be a last desperate attempt to discredit himself by posting his unprofessional boot lick on Stuart Parr’s dishonest little boot lick site – lies and all at bloggers4ukip

Is there no one in UKIP with the slightest political instinct – is there no self control, we know there is no leadership but this is just making a mockery of the party at the very worst time.

One can hardly be surprised that UKIP has managed to have LESS than 30 political offices in the public sector filled out of around 19,500 available.

Yes UKIP will do a little better in the upcoming local elections the ironic point being their gains will largely be at the expense of The Lib.Dims. this time and for the most bizarre of reasons – Lib.Dim. voters will be registering a protest vote against their two EU funded ex MEPs Nick Clegg & Huhne who have betrayed the Lib.Dim. electorate (one should not overlook the economic illiteracy of their trained theorist Vincent Cable who might well be advised to repair to his skill zone as a dance!).

The other area of protest is that The Lib.Dims. (there are only three aren’t there!) are completely out of step with the electorate on the issue of AV.

How ironic when Farage was elected to lead a largely Libertarian (in as far as UKIP understands the concept) Party espousing Leave-The-EU and promptly betrayed the electorate and the members by plunging into bed with a group of racist extremists, xenophobes, anti Jewish and violent anti homosexual foreign politicians in a sell out in return for money by espousing and supporting a pro EU membership stance and the Reforming ideals with more centralised EU controls as with Derek Clark MEP, Marta Andreasen (Spanish) MEP, Stuart Agnew (NFU) MEP, David Bannerman (anybody’s) MEP, Willian Dartmouth MEP etc.

You will note that UKIP will make gains at Lib.Dim. expense on the protest vote and the further irony is that Farage is as out of step over AV as is Nick Clegg all be it for different and dim reasons (I say dim as he has failed to convince his own party let alone the public at large).

Politics and political thought does rather seem to be beyond UKIP and as for the level of ill disciplined unprofessionalism that lets idiots like little Harry Aldrich and Michael Havers loose to so clearly damage the party it is staggering – that is not to gain say the irrefutable fact that within the squabbling ranks of UKIP there will be many too stupid to even realise their own stupidity.

If you are still in ANY doubt as to the unprofessional incompetence of UKIP just follow their MEPs around for a few days as the meeeeja do!

Alternatively try debate on a point they disagree with or even consider the rank stupidity of fielding a school girl to front for UKIP as Mayoral candidate in Leicester about which I note Barbara Booker had the last clear word as is so often the case, when she said:

There was a young lady of Leicester
Whose A-level studies obsessed her,
No time to prepare
Her campaign for Mayor . . .
To stand, what could have possessed her?

By the by here is the pro British Patriotic advertisement, which could well have been badged to UKIP if Farage had not betrayed the electorate and with the rump of UKIP that he has not over the years driven away leaped into bed with his extremist EFD Group:

 Great isn’t it and to clear up a few points of confussion for those in UKIP who are clearly unaware of much going on around them:

01. Nigel Farage MEP is NOT a member of the EU Referendum Pledge Campaign run and managed by James Pryor and Bridget Rowe for the members and primary patron Tony Blackwell and Jon Gaunt is the media spokesman. Unlike UKIP the peoples pledge for an EU Referendum campaign IS NOT run by or for the benefit of politicians as it was they who got us into this mess as members of The EU.

02. Paul Nuttall was invited to assist but does seem to be making as much noise as a giraffe – possibly controlled by Farage!

03. The Petition for an EU Referendum is a separate entity founded and launched by Nikki Sinclaire at her own expense at Easter last year though increasingly active from September.

04. Dan Hannan’s ‘Judas Goat’ operation was set up when he was blocked from controlling the EU Pledge – an idea he then tried to destroy by diluting it for personal gain. He was encouraged by various socialist extremists to try to embarrass The Tory initiative.

05. Mike Nattrass & Trevor Colman now that they are liberated from the odious Pan EU Political EFD Group have opted to act in the interest of Britain and help Nikki Sinclaire promote The Petition for an IN/OUT EUreferendum.

06. The Petition for an IN/OUT EUreferendum and The EU Referendum Pledge Campaign are working in co-operation for the Patriotic benefit of these United Kingdoms.

07. IF YOU are a genuine Patriot and wish to help liberate these United Kingdoms from the thrall of vassal status in The EU may I suggest find out more and how YOU can help CLICK HERE

Since it is clear UKIP have no ability to professionalise and are clearly squabbling like ferrets in a sack as they jokey for positions at the troughs on the gravy train and sice clearly they have no sign of a competent leader – though to be fair Nigel Farage is at most times a consumate performer, without the guidance he so clearly needs and firm leadership from a grown up he will sadly continue to be divisive driving out anyone of competence who he fears might rival him and for ever piling dung ever higher to try to give credibitlity to his strutting and crowing.

That ain’t leadership and as a result of the dross gathered around Farage the party is clearly unfit for purpose.

Yes as a part it will survive as it is of so little long term consequence and of such great value to both The Tories and The EU no one will bother to sink it – any effort to expose the corruption is met with the most unprofessional howls from those feeding on that corruption in one way or another!

It is hard to find reason to disagree with this comment from The Blogosphere:

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I believe NF is simply astute – he knows what is best for him and is the enemy within. Whether UKIP is managed through NF by Thatcherites within the Tory Party or NF had chosen, personally, not to be successful in domestic politics because he did not want the Tories to fail at GEs matters not a jot – because the outcome is the same.

The bottom line is that UKIP is not like other political parties in the sense that others simply want to be as successful as possible, irrespective of the impact on other parties. Once the Tory dimension is acknowledged, at any time some apparently irrational decision might be made by NF which will set the Party back or in a different direction.

These will be unfathomable to serious members, simply because they not aware of the details of this Tory influence – a recipe for continuous and continuing frustration for serious and loyal members.

Unlike the childish self serving bottom wiping by Harry Aldridge that so palpably smacks of a self important child
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#0452* – UKIP FORUM HAS IT ON THE BUTTON!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 01/05/2011

#0452* – UKIP FORUM HAS IT ON THE BUTTON!
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Steve ALLISON on UKIP FORUM HAS IT ON THE BUTTON!
Knowing this has not however detered him from his persuit of a position on The MEP selection List I’m Sure!!

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Hi,

here is an abstract from UKIP Forum provided earlier by one of numerous supporters of UKIP who wish to see the Party cleaned-up and made fit for purpose as a party which morally decent INFORMED folk could once again support:

I’m no great fan of Nigel’s Leadership or Management Skills although I do recognise his oratory and presentation skills are second to none in UKIP. I would be surprised if there was anyone to match him in the party.

However, I don’t think Nigel is divisive. I actually think Nigel is a unifying force within UKIP! Nigel is building a party that consists of members who all agree he is wonderful and back him 100%.

Unfortunately, in my opinion, Nigel’s method of unifying the party is therefore to drive out or marginalise anyone who disagrees with him. That definitely makes the party more united and more homogeneous in the name of “professionalism” No dissenting opinions allowed. Get on message or get out.

I have been in this party many years and have seen how it works. New members join, often admittedly because of hearing Nigel speak or seeing him on TV. They are 100% Faragist and many never progress beyond this view. However,  some members do ultimately decide the God does have feet of clay. They then face a choice. If they want to progress in the party the only way to do that at the moment is to be vocally and visibly pro-Nigel. If they decide they cannot do that then they either leave the party (which many thousands have done over the years); stay a member and just keep working in their own local area to get our country back, since at the moment UKIP, for all it faults, is the only viable game in town (which is what many branch members do); or speak out and try and change things in the party (which ultimately leads to them either giving up and leaving or being hounded out. Again just look at the list of former members of UKIP if you want to see how often this happens).

Personally I am in the camp which recognises Nigel’s very great strengths but also his significant weaknesses. I came very, very close to being driven out in 2008 but decided to swallow the humiliation and stay and fight for change from within. Not very successfully I must admit so far. However, the acid test will come with the new party constitution. I suspect this will be the watershed for many people, including me!

Steve, how on Earth can you say that only those who are vocally and visibly pro-Nigel can progress when you are Vice-Chairman? Seems like a straw man argument seeing as you have repeatedly criticised Nigel and  backed a rival leadership candidate.

Actually the post of Party Vice Chairman is in many ways analogous to Vice President of the USA. A post required by the constitution but which has no power or authority and is a good place to park someone out of the way. It balances the ticket and puts a potential threat inside the tent p1ssing out rather than having them outside the tent p1ssing in.

I consider my most significant current contribution to UKIP to be my membership of the NEC. Something I was elected to by a vote of the membership, not appointed to by anyone.

Sadly this is no credit to anyone and well he knows it as he is surrounded by liars, cheats, bigots and self serving scheisters take for instance Derek Clark MEP who has lied, brought disgrace on UKIP – done virtually nothing in his constituency save preside, with the drunkard Regional Organiser over the collapse of membership from around 6,000 to just a tad over 400 at present.

Do remember the number of proven liars on the NEC such as Mick McGough and at the last NEC meeting you also had the proven liar Stuart Agnew MEP numerous individuals on The NEC have with monotonous regularity brought UKIP into disrepute.

Sadly not least in the order who have brought UKIP into disrepute are the likes of Godfrey Bloom with his sordid behaviour with prostitutes IN PUBLIC and invoking UKIP’s name when arrested.

Likewise the fraud boasted of by Derek Clark MEP.

The lies repeatedly told by Nigel Farage in efforts to cover-up and collude with Tom Wise MEP.

The fact that Tom Wise MEP was NEVER disciplined within the party and was defended with lie after lie by Douglas Denny & Nigel Farage until finally he was sent to prison for 2 years for his crimes.

I do not believe there is any merit to claim in being one of a committee of fools, low lifes, theives, self servers and liars!

Are you REALLY proud as you claim Steve or are you just ‘Self Serving’?

How unifying can he be when he has lost 25% of his MEPs. Rumour of another one or two following keeps coming up. If he had strong leadership qualities UKIP would have 12 MEPs and be sitting in the EFD unmolested working to whatever it is MEPs do.

If you take the numbers quoted by Michael Heaver that Nigel got 45% of the vote in the 2006 Leadership Election and 60% of the vote in 2019 then he is obviously uniting the party as level of dissatisfaction with him had dropped significantly. He therefore cannot be considered divisive. That is simple maths. His support in the party has gone from between 4 and 5 out of ten to 6 out of ten members who voted.

However, with all statistics you need to look beyond the numbers. In 2006 the UKIP Membership was around 16,000 and in 2010 it was around 15,000. Just getting rid of 1,000 members who might not be 100% behind Nigel would have contributed significantly to the rise in his apparent popularity. UKIP’s headline membership churn is somewhere around 30% (although I believe it is reduced somewhat after telephone “whipping in”) and a fairly high proportion of those people who leave are, in my personal experience, members who would not have backed Nigel in a Leadership contest but accept that he is practically unbeatable while he controls the media access obtained by the party (and hence prevents anyone who may challenge him from developing a higher profile) and Nigel holds the power of patronage for paid employment slots and promotion to winnable places on the MEP Lists.

Taking a simple analogy. A ton of Hematite (iron ore) is about 70% iron and 30% other material. So to get the purity up to 95% (typical pig iron) requires a considerable reduction in volume. A ton of hematite will produce at best around two thirds of a ton of pig iron. No matter how good your process you cannot convert 100% of Hematite into iron. You have to lose the impurities, you have to refine the material and discard the unwanted parts. So the end result of the process is a high purity, homogeneous pig iron ingot and piles of unwanted slag. UKIP membership is the same. Feed in unrefined members, reduce the volume until only the high purity, pro-Nigel fraction remains and discard the unwanted slag. So to keep the total membership constant requires a continual input of new members to replace the discarded slag. Of course there are always some impurities remaining, those stubborn elements that can’t be totally removed. The answer to them is mask them and minimise their effect!

I must say though I agree with almost all that Steve states regarding Nigel Farage where he re-itterates my oft repeated comments in that Nigel Farage is probably UKIP’s only real asset – one need only look at the incredibly low caliber of those elevated by him and around him and the irrefutable fact that Steve makes most clear which is that Farage though an excellent performer utterly lacks management and leadership skills and has had to relly not on building a bigger, better more skilled party but has driven out the skilled, the competent, the individuals of gravitas and is left surrounded by political pygmies and adulative small children like the sad spectacle of his assorted praise singers.

It is not a leadership quality to pile dung higher to strut as a popinjay crowing at the expense of and benighted by lack luster surroundings.

OK so the large majority of readers of this blog and also of Junius are UKIP Supporters – there are also the low lifes who visit looking to see what lies they can invent about me to desperately hang onto their position as maggots in the dung heap.

STOP FOR A MOMENT – Appreciate I have ALWAYS supported Nigel Farage as a performer and have without fail made every effort possible to TRY to clean-up UKIP and expose the vile specimens that are exploiting both Farage and UKIP for their personal gain.

OK – NOW NAME the top 20 public performers that have been trained and can be trusted not to say something crass as one would expect of Mick McGough, Douglas Denny, Annabelle Fuller, Stuart Agnew MEP, Derek Clark MEP, Godfrey Bloom MEP, David Bannerman MEP, William Dartmouth MEP, Paul Nuttall MEP, Michael Heavers Childrens Wing, Hugh Williams The Untrustworthy Wing, Rachel Oxley The useless Tendency, Harry Aldridge Childrens Wing, Kris Seunarine Idiots Wing, Andrew Smith The Dishonest Tendency, George Curtis The Dishonest Tendency, William Shaw Idiots Wing, Need we go on?

Just who BESIDES Nigel Farage has one shred of visible competence and lets face it despite standing on a dung heap of his own creation Farage has maintained his ability but imagine what could have been achieved had UKIP not permitted Farage to destroy the party and turn it into his own private vehicle – even paying his wife £30K a year and Annabelle Fuller – how can ANYONE claim that is displaying probity, morality, integrity or ANY sign of leadership caliber?

Now consider this list and follow up on some of the links CLICK HERE
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#0451* – INSTEAD of LIES UKIP SHOULD FULFIL ITS PROMISES

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 30/04/2011

#0451* – INSTEAD of LIES UKIP SHOULD FULFIL ITS PROMISES!
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INSTEAD of LIES UKIP SHOULD FULFIL ITS PROMISES!

When was it that UKIP was going to Professionalise & Which Lies Do Its Leadership Honour?

We know the pond life whose belief that smears and lies constitute political wisdom are all too prevalent amongs UKIP Leadership’s parasites!

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Hi,

in view of the endless pretence, never displayed, of UKIP being professionalised and the PROMISES made by the party’s ONLY credible asset that he will professionalise the party perhaps we should look at how their only competent performer left measures up for integrity, reliability, probity and honesty!

Do correct me if I am wrong but did not UKIP’s only performer give a promise on Meridian TV that NO UKIP ELECTED OFFICER WOULD EVER EMPLOY THEIR FAMILY!

Now I am aware that mistresses are not technically ‘family’ but employing them as staff funded from the tax payers must surely be seen as morally unacceptable but when the SO CALLED leader of the Party outright lies to the electorate and employs his wife as proven by The Sunday Times – on a salary of £30K that must be seen to be dragging the party name into the gutter just as readily as do many UKIP leadership supporters with their cowardly and dishonest comments about long term supporters with whom they disagree as they may find their income and gain chain exposed.

Clearly it is apposite when just about every aspect of UKIP leadership isd founded on lies to note that there are absolutely ZERO signs of the PROMISED professionalisation of the shambles!

Take for instance http://www. ukip.org/london Crass isn’t it:

About London

UKIP is a new political party, of traditional values. What does that mean?

• Put simply, it is a party of Common Sense. Whether we like it or not, and in our heart of hearts we all do, we are all born into an extended family called Britain which feels a sense of kinship within itself. It is common sense to want to preserve this family intact and not to merge it with other countries who have their own and different aims and traditions. We must keep our independence and identity.

• It also stands for Small Government – we do not see the role of Government as that of interfering in every last detail of people’s lives ; on the contrary we believe in leaving people to run their own lives as they see fit, and intervening ONLY when abuses are occurring as a result.

UKIP is a NEW party, only formed in 1993. It currently has around 17,000 members, and is getting bigger. It is smaller than the much older “big three”, which are, however, shrinking rapidly. Tory and Labour have around 200,000 members a piece and the Lib Dems around 70,000 members.

In the Reigate branch which covers Redhill, Salfords and Merstham we have a dedicated team of people who are passionate about restoring local control over our town and being able to make decisions on what we want rather than an unelected bunch of people in Brussels. Please join us in this fight.

How could someone with aspirations to standing as London Mayoral Candidate as does Lawrence Webb I believe square the last paragraph with one iota of professionalism.

Surely the inclusion of that paragraph is about as professional as the endlessd lies from Nigel Farage whilst pretending to lead UKIP whilst bringing UKIP into disrepute by telling outright lies regarding Tom Wise and fraud within the party and how he HAD dealt with it when he most clearly had not.

Let us look in a little more detail at UKIP London – Gerard Batten’s province where I note under http://www.ukip.org/london/articles there is only the one article since 2009 and that was well over a year ago.

As for   http://www.ukip.org/london/news you will note nothing news worthy has attracted UKIP London’s attention as of any note since January 2010.

As professionalising the party goes well might the first point on the list, after tyhe self important little manifesto be >WHY UKIP<

Frankly I haven’t a clue and clearly UKIP are even worse informed as they had not even bothered looking!

A brief glance at UKIP Forum yet again shows the crass level of unprofessionalism of many of its more outspoken members – they seem to believe desperately smearing anyone who might have a political view passes as political intelligence and the still permit UKIP reputation to be dragged in the gutter by the ill informed and self serving vitriol of the liar and low life Mick McGough who has so demeaned UKIP, CIB & TFA with his outright lies, his odious and childish bullying and his lies about both himself and others – so very UKIP sadly!

Parading his dishonesty before the ignorami on UKIP Forum just shows him for the fool he is – I note he is desperately trying to sell the belief that UKIP MEP candidates were legally bound to obey the diktat of Farage when that is patently untrue and has been proven so.

However he does fail to show that he was only ever a candidate because he lied and was all too willing to cheat his own supposed friends and associates and lie to members for his personal advancement – just how low does such a creep have to go to be considered a liability bringing the name of UKIP into disrepute.

Mick McGough is a dishonourable, dishonest and corrupt liar and has been proven to be by UKIP itself but UKIP’s standards and lack of professionalism clearly find dishonesty acceptable CLICK HERE
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INDEX of CONTENT – UKIP-vs-EUkip The First Year

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 30/04/2011

INDEX of CONTENT – UKIP-vs-EUkip The First Year
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Hi,

I hope this helps – AN INDEX of the first year on This Blog:

You can of course find most things you are looking for by using :

Either:
>UKIP Its ASSOCIATES & DETAILS< in the Right Sidebar.

Or:

>SEARCH THIS BLOG – If You Enter an individuals name you will get every blog they are listed in.< in the Right Sidebar at the top
There are loads more usefull links in the Right Sidebar

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#0450* – IN MEMORIAM – UKIP CANDIDATE Paul GREGORY

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 30/04/2011

#0450* – IN MEMORIAM – UKIP CANDIDATE Paul GREGORY

IN MEMORIAM – UKIP CANDIDATE Paul GREGORY of NEWCASTLE who died of recently diagnosed with oesophagal cancer!

Paul GREGORY died on 21-April-2011 aged 62!

Our thoughts are with his family and friends.

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Elections 2001: Poll off after Seabridge candidate’s death

Elections 2001: Poll off after Seabridge candidate's death
AN ELECTION candidate has died just days before voters go to the polls.

The death of Paul Gregory means the borough council ballot in the Seabridge ward of Newcastle, due to be held on May 5, will be postponed.

But those affected will still be able to vote in the referendum about the Alternative Vote (AV) system.
A by-election for the council seat will be held at a date yet to be set.

Mr Gregory, of Wye Road, Clayton, was standing as a UKIP candidate for a seat on Newcastle Borough Council.

The 62-year-old, pictured right, was the director of Westbury and Clayton Youth Club, which he co-founded in 1997.

Through the youth club he ran a range of activities for teenagers including football and dancing.

But he was recently diagnosed with cancer of the oesophagus and died in hospital on April 21.

A council spokesman said: “In light of Mr Gregory’s death, the poll in Seabridge will be abandoned. A by-election will be held within 35 days after May 5.”

Derrick Huckfield, UKIP councillor for Silverdale and Knutton, said Mr Gregory had been determined to stand in the election.

He said: “He begged to stand and said he was all right.

“The next thing we heard he was rushed into hospital and diagnosed with cancer, but he came out and told us ‘I have plenty of years left in me yet’.

“I can’t believe he’s died. He put his heart and soul into the idea of being a councillor.

“He thought he could do good. He really thought he had a good chance of getting in this time and he was excited about it.”

Newcastle’s UKIP chairman David Nixon said: “My first abiding memory of Paul was his complete commitment. When we started UKIP in Newcastle in 2004 he was out leafleting every day.

“He also put in an awful lot of effort helping young people in Clayton.”

Colin Brooks helped found the youth club, although the pair were standing against each other in the election with Mr Brooks hoping to win the seat for Labour.

He said he was saddened to hear of his political rival’s death.

He said: “He was interested in youth and the community and he worked hard.

“He was a genuine sort of bloke – politics didn’t come into it.

“He’ll be sorely missed.”

Meanwhile, Cheshire East Council has confirmed the May 5 vote for the Crewe South ward has also been postponed following the death of Councillor Betty Howell.

The AV referendum will still be held in that ward on Thursday.

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