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Archive for May 17th, 2011

#0488* – UKIP & The MARE TAKE RAMSEY FOR A RIDE

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/05/2011

#0488* – UKIP & The MARE TAKE RAMSEY FOR A RIDE
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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UKIP & The MARE TAKE RAMSEY FOR A RIDE!
Even UKIP NEC Members Are Embarrassed & Have Spoken Out!

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Hi,

my thanks to the team at Junius for this blog and you will note it supplements the details at CLICK HERE

& the comments of UKIP staffer now NEC appointee Steve Allison:

The politicisation of any previously non-political group is actually a very bad thing in my opinion. Would you say it was a good thing that Remembrance Sunday is becoming more and more political? How long before it’s just another campaign activity that we all tick off on our campaign plans? I have never and will never lay a UKIP Wreath at a remembrance parade. I don’t want politics in that day. Look at the outcry when Tony Blair tried to use Royal occasions for party politics.

Try reading the Triumph of the political class by Peter Obourne. Brilliant Book. We should be fighting for less politics in things not more.

I do congratulate Lisa and her team on their result but I am still slightly saddened that politics has gained another foothold. In my opinion party politics shouldn’t be a part of local government at any level.

& the additional facts provided at the end of Junius’ Article!

UKIP: Disgust in Ramsey as Reeve and Duffy politicize parish council

UKIP spin doctors have made much of the fact that the party recently ‘gained control’ of it’s first council in Ramsey, Cambs.

Forget the spin. Here are the facts.

Ramsey Town Council has the same powers as a parish council. Nothing more, nothing less. To present this a massive victory for UKIP is absurd!

Candidates were always non-political. But then along came Reeve and Duffy.

We can confirm via our contacts in Ramsey that recent events have left a very sour taste in the town with allegations of ‘dirty tricks’ on the part of Reeve and his munchkins.

For instance:

During the campaign, Reeve posted numerous election posters across the town WITHOUT getting permission from the local authorities. Complaints were made to the returning officer and they were removed. However, within a few days they had mysteriously reappeared. Reeve, of course, claimed to know nothing about this.

Reeve also distributed election literature which failed to comply with electoral law. For instance, official UKIP leaflets and letters failed to mention who had promoted or printed the literature.

They are allegations that UKIP’s election expenditure far exceeded the amount allowed by law.

The Lib Dems did not contest the election and the Tories failed to distribute election literature or conduct even a basic campaign. UKIP was given a easy ride.

Three of UKIP’s candidates don’t even live in Ramsey.

Reeve – at the very first council meeting – had the UKIP councillors appoint Lisa Duffy – his girlfriend – mayor. He also instructed them to appoint Ian Curtis – his friend – deputy mayor.

He then told the non-UKIP councillors – he used the words ‘you lot’ – to sit on the other side of the table facing ‘his councillors’ did not wish to sit alongside them. This arrogant, combative stance has angered many in the town.

Reeve is also claiming credit for planning a Micro Business Centre in the town, In fact, this idea was first put forward by the ‘Ramsey Intiative‘. See: LINK

Reeve and Duffy are VERY ambitious people. They ultimate goal is sit alongside Farage in Brussels. Reeve also thinks that one day he will become UKIP’s first elected MP. He has even promised to marry Duffy in Westminster once elected as a Cambridgshire MP!

They are using the people of Ramsey for their own sordid ends. Greed is the sole thing that motivates this dishonest pair!

Delusions of grandeur has always formed a large part of the psyche of this unsavoury duo! Let’s just hope that the Town’s officials are good at damage limitation!

We have been amused by the amount of UKIP supporters on Twitter, Facebook and the blogs who seem to think that winning a majority (in crude fashion) on a non-political council is a cause for celebration.

And don’t forget that Reeve is still under investigation by OLAF for alleged fraud! The OLAF case number is OF/2010/0282. See: LINK

Here is the video where Stuart Agnew – UKIP MEP
admits illegally paying Reeve!

And for more on Duffy: LINK

I understand that there are even allegations floating around Ramsey that claim that Peter Reeve even used cash – presumably stolen by Stuart Agnew from the tax payers in the style of the fraud he has admitted to – hearsay claims that the cash was used to bribe support of a Tory member or their switch to UKIP which would not surprise me as UKIP leadership team have shown themselves time andf again to have nothing but contempt for Electoral Law, the Electoral Commission and any sense of moral, ethical or financial probity.

I can well imagine the likes of Peter Reeve as a staffer of UKIP would be all too willing to buy votes in one way or another – I believe him to be that dishonest and corrupt but in this particular narrow example I have absolutely no clear evidence beyond the gossip from Ramsey and the belief that the amount of posters and leaflets seemed disproportionate to the norm within accepted electoral practice.

I had also understood that it was a requirement of electoral law on what are in political circles nick named ‘Dog Dirt Council’ namely irrelevancies like the Parish Council of Ramsey albeit flattered by its grandiose  styling as ‘Town Council’ that it was the custom – even perhaps the law that Councillors at very least lived or had businesses within the Council bounds in fact is it not within the specific ward?

Do read CLICK HERE there is a host more detail and it is sad to see a little village like Ramsey so exploited and demeaned:

The people of Ramsey may be better served were there less childish inclination to seize the chain and by CLICK HERE & HERE

Rather than see Ramsey demeaned but to me far more importantly rather than see UKIP demeaned by this unseemly spectacle of bragaddocio over a tiny local council as if it were some great achievement it is so sad to think that after 18 years this can be considered worthy of such promotion by UKIP when as this is clearly their greatest achievement together with beating The Greens – let us face it their results were an embarrassing abject failure.

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#0487* – Those who seek to undermine Farage undermine UKIP.

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/05/2011

#0487* – Those who seek to undermine Farage undermine UKIP.
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable!
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!  
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Those who seek to undermine Farage undermine UKIP!

Clearly only a child or a fool would believe such a statement or of course someone who was a proven liar and utterly corrupt sycophant like Mick McGough – of no personal merit or worth who found with his tongue firmly placed for licking their incompetence and vile personality was overlooked!

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Hi,

I have unfortunately only received the comments of the main protagonist and an aside from Steve Allison – suffice to say with information leaks there are perforce some parts missing!

Though it seems Douglas Denny is in his dottage waking up to the reality that he has been duped and taken for the fool he so clearly was.

Perhaps it is his conscience after so many defamatory lies and general dishonesty that Denny used in the past to abuse people who dared to seek out the truth which so embarrassed him he felt the need to cover his personal involvement and that of his ‘chums’.

Unfortunately I do not have the whole of his confession nor the documentation which he had but I understand he has now handed to a UKIP MEP – lt us see what integrity that MEP can muster!

In answer to the Strap Line:

Those who seek to undermine Farage undermine UKIP.
It would seem Douglas Denny comments:

This statement is heavily loaded with innuendo and is inaccurate.  Not everyone who wishes to undermine the Leader are ( -actively- for that is what is implied) {wishing} to undermine the party. They may have other valid reasons for not wishing to co-operate with the Leader.  It happens in all political parties.

This is not to approve of course,  of Marta biting the hand that fed her – and I mean the party.

I have read the “blogg” article and and it is a very pro-Nigel Farage homily spun with no acknowledgement or account of the known failings of NF which, in themselves, have in the past and possible present, caused problems for the party.
The author forgets: it takes two to Tango.
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I made it clear I did not want Nigel to be Leader again at the leadership elections and said exactly why – and those reasons are now becoming apparent, especially the main one which I will now repeat. (On this private forum only).

I emphasise have not publicly criticised Nigel since the leadership election as he is the Leader, and does indeed have a large mandate from the membership.
That is not to fail to recognise and deny he has faults however, but I do not fully express them now as it is counter-productive to the party.  If this is the only point Mr. Heaver is trying to make, then I agree with him.

What I think is worth repeating though is: I think the main problem with any leader of a political party is they develop enemies and malcontents within the party and without,  with their leadership,  over a long period of time if they stay in the job for a very long period. Margaret Thatcher is a classic axample of this.  She was an excellent Leader, but they still threw her out for spurious reasons.  That is why I think leaders should stand down, or be changed regardless every now and then. (Every three or five years? -debate).

This effect causes problems of the kind we are now seeing.  It is up to those who are malcontent for whatever reasons to either pull their weight behind the party or re-consider what they are doing.

Leadership does not mean there is an automatic requirement of blind obedience from others however (unless you are in the military)  – it means bringing people together towards a common cause through example and charisma so that people want to to follow….. Douglas Denny.

 Steve ALLISON SAID:

I have read the “blogg” article and and it is a very pro-Nigel Farage homily spun with no acknowledgement or account of the known failings of NF which, in themselves, have in the past and possible present, caused problems for the party.

Steve Allisons comment:

Doug, you didn’t need to read the blog post to know this. All you need to read was the title and the name of the author. There are certain people in this party for whom the concept of Nigel not being 100% correct is something they cannot even imagine, let alone actually put into words. To expect Michael Heaver to question Farage in any way is like expecting a blog post by a Catholic Cardinal questioning the doctrine of Papal Infallibility! Unthinkable.

All Hail!! Gaius Nigellus Caesar! Those who speak ill of him do so of the Republic! Yea, kneel down and kiss of his arse, mortals!!!

Nigel’s a good bloke, we get it. I certainly support him; but there are reasons to criticise him and the one thing that is guaranteed to destroy a political party in a democracy is a sycophantic personality cult that rewards toadying – sorry, “loyalty” – to a man over wisdom and competence and devotion to a cause.

If UKIP takes that route, it is no better than the LibLabCon parties and its high admonitions on the lack of’democracy’ and ‘liberty’ are not worth a fig.

Steve Allison’s response:

This is exactly the route that UKIP is taking! Any organisation that believes it is 100% dependent upon one man for its success or failure has started down the path to ultimate destruction. Graveyards are full of people who were indispensable!. If the crash last year had been serious enough that Nigel had died, which I would never wish on anyone, even my worst enemy, or he had been so badly injured that he had to leave politics, are these people who claim Nigel is UKIP’s only hope also saying the party would have collapsed and now no longer exist?

When Nigel departs UKIP, because it is WHEN and not IF, then UKIP will continue and may even be stronger in the long term,  in fact I think it will be stronger in the long term without Nigel. Any gardener will tell you that when one branch on a bush grows so large that it overshadows the rest of the the branches then it’s time for the overgrown branch to be pruned back, otherwise the shape of the bush is destroyed and the longer the singe branch is allowed to grow the harsher the pruning becomes!

Douglas Denny adds his farthing’s worth:

I disagree with this statement too which is also inaccurate.

There were other suitable candidates,  two of which would have made perfectly good leaders in my opinon;  an opinon  based on having supported three Leaders already in the past and seen their efforts.

As Steve Allison rightly says – if Nigel had been killed in the aircraft crash UKIP would have gone on regardless, and would still achieve the kind of success we already enjoy.   The party would have gone in a different direction in some respects,  which might or might not have speeded up that process. Overall though, it is my experience in politics that leaders efforts are more useful during thier term with infrastructure changes and general party direction,  and  the aspect of personalities only becomes important and into the forefront of politics if they are in the focus of the media, – which for UKIP is at election times – and only if they get the media presence, and that only in the last week before an election.
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The reason Nigel had such a large poll with the members is because they have never heard of the others much at all,  excepting DCB perhaps.  He did not do well, so cannot have such a well-known or acceptable profile in the party as I thought might be the case.     Nigel, however,  is so well known in the party you could put him up for election as God and he will probably get 60%.

Tim Congden would have made an excellent leader,  and I like his stance on MEPs and UKIP’s efforts being more UK-centric, which resonates with me a lot,  so if there is another leadership election in due course and he stands I shall have to think carefully next time who to go for depending on the candidates and their policy in this respect. Who knows? TC could be the one !
Some others might make good leaders too, but were total unknowns.

Douglas Denny.

Then in response to an apparent interjection Denny continues:

No spat here on this subject.  It’s called rational, informed debate.
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This minion,  dogsbody,  jobbing party worker would like to know what the MEPs are doing exactly too but does not actually know, as he is not told.
Whatever it is, it is, but one thing’s for sure – if it’s in Brussels, it is of little use to getting Britain out of the EU.

I find snippets of information about what they do from the internet like you.

Douglas.

It would seem that Douglas Denny is making steps, all be they tiny, towards honesty and telling the truth which must be very difficult for him after so many years telling lies, cheating and inventing childish conspiracy theories to cover up the corruption he was party to.

Leopards DO change their spots – it is a measure of their maturity!

Though I doubt Douglas Denny will ever be man enough to apologise for his lies and his defamatory comments and inventions regarding myself, Niall Warry and others.

See the original article at CLICK HERE
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