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#0143* – DEEPLY WORRYING SIGNS OF MADNESS IN UKIP

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/10/2010

#0143* – DEEPLY WORRYING SIGNS OF MADNESS IN UKIP!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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DEEPLY WORRYING SIGNS OF MADNESS IN UKIP!
Nigel FARAGE ACTUALLY BELIEVES IN MESSIANIC POWERS! <!–var googleUrl="/telegraph/template/ver1-0/templates/fragments/search/components/google/GAFSTransform.jsp?";function doneGAFShtml (htmlstr) { //alert(htmlstr); htmlstr = htmlstr.split("<").join("”).join(“>”).split(“&”).join(“&”); var parts = htmlstr.split(“[BREAK]”); var slot1 = document.getElementById(“gafsslot1”); var slot2 = document.getElementById(“gafsslot2”); if (parts[0] != null) { slot1.innerHTML=parts[0]; if (parts[1] != null) { slot2.innerHTML=parts[1]; } }}function initGoogleWS () { var ajaxgws = new AJAXInteraction(googleUrl+’q=%22tim+Congdon%22&ua=Mozilla%2F5.0+%28Windows%3B+U%3B+Windows+NT+5.1%3B+en-US%3B+rv%3A1.9.1.10%29+Gecko%2F20100504+Firefox%2F3.5.10+%28+.NET+CLR+3.5.30729%29&ip=81.129.95.33&p=’, null, doneGAFShtml); ajaxgws.doGet();}initGoogleWS();//–>

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And he seemed to lead a charmed life and be under some sort of supranatural protection. 
He recounted how, during the election, he was in a plane with only a pilot, when a crash became inevitable and suddenly He felt, for no apparent reason, a powerful knowledge that he would be OK. No sooner had he realised this than he was calm and lo the plane it did crash seriously injuring the pilot Justin who has returned for numerous further hospital visits but it was not Justin who had been chosen…but He was spared for a greater mission and He was safe.
Hi,
that all sounds very much like The Kabalah to me, towards a better understanding of The New World Order, but I kid you not this is more or less what UKIP’s ‘Chosen One’ is saying at the hustings – how ANYONE could be induced to consider this Party Performer to be other than a party performer when you consider the party had almost 30,000 members when he officially took over from Roger Knapman and the Messiah managed to lose every decent member of principle and integrity and lost virtually all those who were dedicated to grow the organisation, the intelligent and the hard workers – ALL dedicated to Britain’s Patriotic future to Leave-The-EU.
Consider the calamitous collapse of The East Midlands under the guiding hand of Derek Clark MEP the admitted fraudster, underhand betrayer of his loyal staff, who betrayed our Country for his own gain and his Regional Organiser and family:

Between them they have steered UKIP membership in the Region from around 8,000 to under 800 – there seems to be no one left of any stature or ability in the area, save what seems to be a Circus Stunt Rider who proclaims his backing for Tim Congdon to lead the party, yet rides his other horse by signing Nigel Farage‘s papers as an asentor – there’s honourable commitment by UKIP standards!
What a farcical muddle UKIP is in with yet another of the leadership candidates put forward as an utter no hoper to split the opposition vote for Farage and his only claim to fame is 4 years as a County Councillor for another Party and that his father owns a dest!

It would be hard to make up but then again when you think it couldn’t get worse you realise:
Here is the original of Nigel Farage‘s quote:

And he seemed to lead a charmed life and be under some sort of supernatural protection. He recounted how, during WWI, he was in a trench with a group of fellow soldiers and suddenly felt, for no apparent reason, a powerful urge to move away from them. No sooner had he done so when a shell landed and killed them all…but Hitler was safe.

It is worrying when the leader of a small extremist Pan EU Party EFD group chooses for divine inspiration a man quite that evil – just look what Hitler did in pursuit of Unifying Europe which collapsed in a blood bathe and widespread famine!

WAS HITLER CHOSEN BY GOD.  
Hitler’s earliest followers believed he was “The Messiah. The Saviour. Jesus Christ,” or even a god. 
“Is he John the Baptist? Is he Christ?” –Josef Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister 
Hitler was deeply interested in the occult and repeatedly stated he had been chosen by God and Divine Providence. In Mein Kampf and elsewhere, Hitler spoke of hearing voices and having divine visions, and relates the following episode: 
“I was eating dinner in a trench with several comrades. Suddenly the Voice said to me, ‘Get up and go over there.’ It was so clear and insistent that I obeyed automatically. I rose to my feet, walked twenty yards, and sat down to go on eating. Hardly had I done so when a flash and deafening report came from the part of the trench I had just left. Every member in it was killed.” 
In Mein Kamph, Hitler relates that after he had been blinded by a gas bomb, and lay in a WWI military hospital, he again began having visions and hearing the Voice:
“And then the Voice thundered at me: ‘Miserable wretch, are you going to cry when thousands are a hundred times worse off than you!?” 
And then, the Voice spoke again and Adolf Hitler experienced a wonderful vision of the utmost clarity: 
“I was being summoned to save Germany…. I would go into politics.” 
Hitler’s perspective: He was chosen by God, or Divine Providence, but with a twist: 
Let’s pretend its 200 years ago, you are the Judeo-Christian God, and you have a problem: 
How to get the Jews to return to Palestine and reestablish the state of Israel. Four thousand years ago, God sent Moses into Egypt, and after much loss of life, the 600,000 Jews were kicked out and forced, many unwillingly, to journey to the “Promised Land.” 
God, eventually kills all 600,000, including Moses, and millions of other hapless souls, and only the children of these Jews establish the state of Israel/Judea. 
Four thousand years later, the Jews are living all over Europe and Russia. 
Would these Jews voluntarily return to Palestine if God sends another “Moses?” Remember: the Jews didn’t go willingly the first time. So what’s God to do? He creates Hitler, who, at age 17, begins hearing the voice of “god.” According to Hitler and the “voice”, Hitler was chosen by Divine Providence to lead God’s people back to the “promised land.
” Hitler’s followers also believe he had been sent by god, by Divine Providence. It is “God’s Will,” says, Hitler, that he drive the Jews from Europe, and exterminate those who refuse to leave. When Hitler takes power, he does exactly that. 
Two years after Hitler’s death, Israel (which means “God’s strength”) is re-established as a state.

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#0141* – UKIP Mention In The INDEPENDENT – Better than at their own Conference!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/10/2010

#0141* – UKIP Mention In The INDEPENDENT – Better than at their own Conference!! .
Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! .
The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name! .
UKIP Mention In The INDEPENDENT – THE Petition Gets A Plug
Better than at their own Conference!!!
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Birmingham Diary: Tory fringe despair at antics of Coalition Cameroons

By Andy McSmith
Tuesday, 5 October 2010
What’s she doing here?
 
On the street outside the conference is parked the mobile surgery of Nikki Sinclaire, MEP for the West Midlands. She was elected to the European Parliament for the UK Independence Party last year, ran for the party leadership, lost, fell out with her colleagues, got expelled, and now styles herself an independent. She was collecting signatures for a petition to get out of the EU, and getting a reasonable response.
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At the Conservative Conference

 My battle bus rolled into Birmingham today for the final conference of the political season. The Conservatives have chosen Birmingham once again for their conference bringing gridlock to parts of the city on a daily basis. City centre conferences seem to be vogue at the moment much to the detriment of seaside resorts like Brighton, Blackpool, Bournemouth etc it used to be a nice little earner at the end of the season for these resorts but the established political parties rather disrupt the countries major cities.

The Campaign for a Referendum (CfaR) was received warmly by delegates, many signatures were collected and hundreds of petition packs handed out.  Coincidently, the Bruges Group and CfaR had rooms at the Midlands Institute which allowed respective interested parties to find out more about each other.

Outside the Conference I had the pleasure to meet Lizzie Williams, a protester against the High Speed Link (HS2) that is cutting though the Green Belt. Lizzie had just finished her walk though the proposed route. I signed her petition and promised her my support. 

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#0140* – UNDERSTANDING WHY UKIP IS DOOMED TO ENDLESSLY REPEAT ITS FAILURES.

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/10/2010

#0140* – UNDERSTANDING WHY UKIP IS DOOMED TO ENDLESSLY REPEAT ITS FAILURES.
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! .
The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name! .
UNDERSTANDING WHY UKIP IS DOOMED TO ENDLESSLY REPEAT ITS FAILURES
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Hi,
a sad reflection on the Farage Party – wouldn’t it have been so much better if there had been competent leadership interested not in just making money and showboating but in actually showing just a little bit of strategic thinking some vision and some effort – not just one long sleazy trail of scams, bad news and self indulgence from the leadership.
If only UKIP had managed to attract and employ some people of honour and integrity.
Sadly not and with more of the same on the horizon and little sign of change they are fast becoming part of the ‘establishment’ utterly dependent on membership of the EU for the gain of the political class and the hell with the electorate!
I received this ‘e’Mail from a long standing and devoted opponent of membership of the EU – like so very many who over the years UKIP has trashed as supporters, building a dedicated army of opponents to The Faragista Fan Club – an army that will never go away.
Whether like me UKIP & its parasites have lied about them or owe them money or as in my case where UKIP clearly has a moral debt of £12,500 to me yet in a cowardly and oh so typical manner is too dishonourable to acquit its debts sheltering its parasites in the EU, with a total disregard for British Courts and basic morality.
The treatment of John West – The pack of lies Farage endlessly tells about how he dealt with Tom Wise rapidly and decisively – indeed he did, not to chuck him out but to put the bite on him it seems to use money Tom Wise had stolen to pay off one of his own bills!

The list of dishonesties and lies of UKIP are legion. I hear they have excelled themselves this time as The EFD is I gather under investigation – this time by The Simon Wiesental Center! Well I guess it makes a change from OLAF, come to think of it not a change but as well!
I do rather feel that EXACT details of all outstanding Police/OLAF & similar investigations should be disclosed by all four of the Leadership candidates as a point of honour but since we are talking of UKIP and they have no honour I guess that won’t happen.
This ‘e’Mail is sadly all too typical of UKIP behaviour, whether rigging selection lists, lies about other candidates – do you remember the endless lies from Farage’s crew last time to destroy the competition and Farage’s collusion in corruption!

Not much seems to have changed.

It is sad that
UKIP is riddled with sick politics and a contingent of people who are in politics simply for the benefits it can provide. There are so many bent and sick minds involved in the organisation that  it is condemned to obscurity.
No amount  of “BSc Hons Political Science” will save it! Unless there is a root  and branch clean up of the organisation it will never achieve the purpose for which it was supposed to be created.
What do you make of a party which physically attacks an elderly disabled man to prevent him attending a local UKIP meeting  in accordance of the rules? Then the person behind that attack becomes the  prime candidate for Wales for the next Welsh  Assembly?
The same person who prevented the local Swansea branch being set up in an orderly manner – that is according to the rules of UKIP – and then gets less than 1.6% of the votes cast!
Essentially he  up a candidate of his own choice – fails to get adequate financial support – no leaflets – practically no other  publicity no placards etc  – the invisible party!
Until UKIP cleans its stables it will never amount to other than a heap of rubbish I am sorry to say.
I have in my time put in significant amounts of money , time and effort into supporting it.. I have seen its membership decline dramatically Why did Lord Pearson opt out? Why has  UKIP Wales lost in fairly quick succession a series of its Chairmen – all of whom were able  people and have left the party and say exactly the things I am saying now?
Why does the paid Welsh organiser go on line and publish to the world the claim that I am mad? What sort of person indulges himself in such activities and why?
Don’t lie and say it didn’t happen  – I can supply incontrovertible evidence to nail such lying.
Does he not know that unlike him I can produce a Psychiatrist letter affirming my sanity – simply because as an elderly  person I look to preventive medicine to protect me from Alzheimer’s.
As it is presently  constituted UKIP, I am very sorry to say, is a very sick mess.
 Hugh J.
I guess that tells you all just what a catastrophy Farage & his nasty little gang of parasites are – it explains why UKIP only manage 3.1% in elections and out of 19,000 offices available by election UKIP has less than 30 people elected in their name.
At this election UKIP members have a choice – Go on endlessly repeating the same mistake and NEVER have any influence whilst a small select claque get ever richer working their way up the EU system – just look at what Andreasen has achieved as a political prostitute willing to represent anyone as long as she can get back on the gravy train!
UKIP having PROVED to be an unmittigated failure there is absolutely no risk in making the change – they have nothing to loose and everything to gain.
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#0139* – Tim CONGDON in The Telegraph 06-Oct-2010

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/10/2010

#0139* – Tim CONGDON in The Telegraph 06-Oct-2010
 

HERE IS UKIP‘s CHANCE to:
Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable!

The endemic corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
Tim CONGDON can call closing time on the Last Chance Saloon
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Tim CONGDON in The Telegraph 06-Oct-2010
Hi,

a quick search on The Telegraph web site for >Tim CONGDON<
gave an interesting response today.

UKIP members may well not know Tim Congdon well as he has needed to Distance himself from The Farage Party not to be seen as just another lightweight on the make and the take and maintain his credibility as a world quoted Economist.

UKIP could do well to shed its image of a bunch of ill mannered racist clowns which clearly The Farage Party is – destined to bump along for ever more with 3-5% of the electorate, no say, no clout, no gravitas and ultimately to become – if not already – the holding pool for a few geriatric extremists who form Ther BNP in blazers teamed up with the political scum of EUrope in the EFD and a few wannabe rich without working youngsters desperately trying to climb on the Gravy Train.

This is THE LAST chance for UKIP to ever be taken seriously.

17 years of Farage style and we are ever deeper in the EU talking of forming a Pan EU Political Party with any trash that will be prepared to be associated so as to GET MORE MONEY but for whom?
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Dangerous Defeatism is taking hold among America’s economic elites

September 5 2010 | By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard | Finance
Goldilocks has played a trick on America. Growth is not warm enough to prevent hard-core unemployment climbing to post-war highs and sticking at levels that corrode the body politic, but not yet cold enough to overcome the fierce resistance of the Fed’s regional hawks for a fresh blast of stimulus.

US Treasury yields fall to record low on Fed’s ‘QE lite’ plan

August 3 2010 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard | Finance
Yields on short-term US Treasury debt have fallen to the lowest in history on mounting expectations of extra stimulus from the Federal Reserve.

Fed’s volte face sends the dollar tumbling

July 15 2010 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard | Finance
Rarely before have a few coded words in the minutes of the US Federal Reserve caused such an upheaval in the global currency system, or such a sudden flight from the dollar.

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Tim Congdon: vicious fiscal consolidation doesn’t need to kill UK

June 11 2010 | Jeremy Warner | Finance
Tim Congdon, keeper of the monetarist faith, is always good value and was on characteristically controversial form for a lunch at the centre right think tank Reform this week. Here’s just a taste of his remarks. The Keynesian idea that you can raise economic activity by increasing the Budget deficit is jus

Dangerous Defeatism is taking hold among America’s economic elites

September 5 2010 | By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard | Finance
Goldilocks has played a trick on America. Growth is not warm enough to prevent hard-core unemployment climbing to post-war highs and sticking at levels that corrode the body politic, but not yet cold enough to overcome the fierce resistance of the Fed’s regional hawks for a fresh blast of stimulus.

US money supply plunges at 1930s pace as Obama eyes fresh stimulus

May 26 2010 | By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard | Finance
The M3 money supply in the United States is contracting at an accelerating rate that now matches the average decline seen from 1929 to 1933, despite near zero interest rates and the biggest fiscal blitz in history.

Leading economists tell us what the future holds

June 5 2010 | By Edmund Conway | Finance
In an exclusive Sunday Telegraph survey, 25 top economists give their opinions on the way ahead.

Economists’ survey of the UK: what’s the ideal proportion of

June 9 2010 | Finance
The Telegraph is publishing the full responses to our Economic Survey, so that you can decide for yourself where we’re heading. We asked the 25 economists ten questions.

Regulators’ determination to punish the banks is a punishment for

May 27 2010 | By Tim Congdon | Finance
What ails the world economy? Why are governments and central banks having so much difficulty in restoring the above-trend output growth which would constitute a genuine recovery?

Regulators’ desire to punish the banks is a punishment for all

May 27 2010 | By Tim Congdon | Finance
What ails the world economy? Why are governments and central banks having so much difficulty in restoring the above-trend output growth which would constitute a genuine recovery?

Inflation ‘a greater risk to Britain than deflation’

June 6 2010 | By Edmund Conway and Angela Monaghan | Finance
Inflation is a greater risk to the British economy than deflation, a majority of economists polled by The Daily Telegraph have said.

Euro ‘will be dead in five years’

June 5 2010 | By Edmund Conway | Finance
The euro will have broken up before the end of this Parliamentary term, according to the bulk of economists taking part in a wide-ranging economic survey for The Sunday Telegraph.

Fed’s volte face sends the dollar tumbling

July 15 2010 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard | Finance
Rarely before have a few coded words in the minutes of the US Federal Reserve caused such an upheaval in the global currency system, or such a sudden flight from the dollar.

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