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#933* = Ukip FURTHER DAMAGED BY DISHONESTY & SMEARS BY SUPPORTERS

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 31/03/2010

#933* = Ukip FURTHER DAMAGED BY DISHONESTY & SMEARS BY SUPPORTERS

See also:

http://caterpillarsandbutterflies.blogspot.com/2010/03/930-little-stuart-parr-gets-it-wrong.html

http://caterpillarsandbutterflies.blogspot.com/2010/03/925-lies-of-stuart-parr-systemic.html

#910* = UKIP LIES & LIARS EXPOSED IN EUkip’s GUTTER of Bullying, Smears & Racism ….

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

To start to understand the Facts behind UKIP their Lies, Spin, Smear & Self Interested Dishonesty
CLICK HERE and also HERE and HERE too – to start on the trail of truth about EUkip

We note Skeptyk one of EUkip’s more dishonest and cowardly supporters, after the style of Mark Croucher in his tactic of marginal misrepresentation working usually as a double act, escalating an irrelevance into outright dishonesty they now have a new blog.

I wonder if it comes with the ‘Health Warning’ about their proven dishonesty, as shown irrefutably above – though I doubt that will stop them smearing, defaming and outright lieing to keep their EU pay masters happy and the snouts of EUkip’s leadership team firmly in the troughs on the gravy train.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.


Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country.

Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

to

Reclaim YOUR Future
&
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK
Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

IF You Have No INDEPENDENT Leave-the-EU Alliance Candidate

LEAVE THE EU
to Reclaim YOUR Future
&
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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#932* – NEW UKIP POLICY SEEMS TO MIMIC EU SCAMS OF YEARS AGO!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 31/03/2010

#932* – NEW UKIP POLICY SEEMS TO MIMIC EU SCAMS OF YEARS AGO!!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

NEW UKIP POLICY SEEMS TO MIMIC EU SCAMS OF YEARS AGO!
LIKE MUCH OF EUkip POLICY IT IS BEST TAKEN WITH A PINCH OF SALT!

AS STEPHEN SACKUR SHOWED FARAGE ON ‘HARD TALK’ NONE OF THE SUMS MAKE SENSE!

Hi,

I was amused by a spot of lampoon that landed in my inbox early this morning which emmanates from Robbie in Switzerland:

Dear Party Chairman,

My friend, who is in politics at the moment, recently received a cheque for £5,000 from the NEC for not fielding candidates.

I would now like to join the “not fielding candidates” business. In your opinion, what is the best kind of constituency not to field candidates in and which is the best breed of candidates not to field? I want to be sure I approach this endeavour in keeping with all government policies, as dictated by the Representation of the People Act etc.

I would prefer not to field Scottish candidates, but if this is not the type you want not fielding, I will just as gladly not field Cornish ones. Are there any advantages in not fielding famous candidates such as Kilroys or Winston McKenzies, or are there too many partys already not fielding these? As I see it, the hardest part of this programme will be keeping an accurate record of how many candidates I haven’t fielded for the Electoral Commission. Are there any Government or Local Authority courses on this?

Incidentally, I wonder if I would be eligible to receive tradable carbon credits for all these candidates not producing harmful and polluting leaflets and hot air?

In view of the above, you will realise that I will be totally unemployed, and will therefore qualify for unemployment benefits. I shall of course be voting for your party at the next general election.

Yours faithfully,

How depressingly true but not un-natuarally in pure conceit I much prefer my version of about 10 years ago, which in itself was an adaptation from an idea sent me from Arkansas!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

COPY LETTER:
Cynythliad I Gymru – translation: The Welsh Assembly,
c/o Glance Back Books,
17  Upper Church Street,
CHEPSTOW,
NP16 5EX
Monmouthshire,
Britain.
‘e’mail                        
tel:                                           01291 – 626562
The Honorable Secretary of State for Agriculture,
Ministry of Agriculture,
Westminster.
Dear Sir,
My friend, in farming at the moment, received a check for £3,000 from the government for not raising pigs. So, I want to go into the “not raising pigs” business next year.
What I want to know is, in your opinion, what is the best kind of farm not to raise pigs on, and what is the best breed of pigs not to raise?  I want to be sure that I approach this endeavour in keeping with all government policies, as dictated by the EUropean Union under the CAP.  I would prefer not to raise bacon pigs, but if that is not a good type not to raise, then I will just as gladly not raise Yorkshires or Gloucester Spots.
As I see it, the hardest part of this program will be in keeping an accurate inventory of how many pigs I haven’t raised.
My friend is very joyful about the future of the business. He has been raising pigs for twenty years or so, and the best he ever made on them was £1,422 in 1968, until this year when he got your check for £3,000 for not raising pigs.
If I get £3,000 for not raising 50 pigs, will I get £6,000 for not raising 100 pigs?  I plan to operate on a small scale at first, holding myself down to about 4,000 pigs not raised, which will mean about £240,000 the first year.  Then I can afford an airplane.
Now another thing, these pigs I will not raise will not eat 100,000 bushels of corn.  I understand that you also pay farmers for not raising corn and wheat.  Will I qualify for payments for not raising wheat and corn not to feed the 4,000 pigs I am not going to raise?
Also, I am considering the “not milking cows” business, so please send me any information you have on that too. Also please can I have the government propaganda on set aside, what is the maximum amount of land one can set aside? As I wish to comply with the government’s desire to squander tax payers money and also promote ‘e’ commerce can ‘set aside’ be done on an ‘e’ commerce’ basis on virtual reality land?
In view of these circumstances, you understand that I will be totally unemployed, and plan to file for unemployment and full benefits.
Be assured I will consider you having my vote in the next election.
Patriotically Yours,
Greg Lance – Watkins
‘The CAP  cost British consumers £6.7 billion in 1998, whilst taxpayers footed a further £3.4 billion bill to fund the scheme.’ – according to Elliot Morley, a junior Agricultural Minister

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Knowing what we do now about Elliot Morley I wonder if he set this scam up for himself and his Labour colleagues?

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.


Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country.

Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

to

Reclaim YOUR Future
&
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK
Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

IF You Have No INDEPENDENT Leave-the-EU Alliance Candidate

LEAVE THE EU
to Reclaim YOUR Future
&
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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#931* – More LIES, SMEARS & DISTORTION – SO TYPICAL OF EUkip!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 31/03/2010

#931* – More LIES, SMEARS & DISTORTION – SO TYPICAL OF EUkip!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

More LIES, SMEARS & DISTORTION – SO TYPICAL OF EUkip! SKEPTYK IS STARTING A BLOG TO CONTINUE IN THE NASTY MEAN MINDED EUkip TRADITION!

Hi,

taking the word of the cowardly Skeptyk – who seems always happy to drag the reputation of EUkip into the gutter they seemingly inhabit as it is believed that the cowardly use of a fgake name hides the efforts of several people trying to keep their snouts in the EU troughs.

Frankly it matters little who they are as if they are too ashamed of what they have to say to put their name to it why would anyone take them seriously.

Anyway, having proved Skeptyk to be not just self servingly unpleasant but fundamentally dishonest see:
#910* = UKIP LIES & LIARS EXPOSED IN EUkip’s GUTTER of Bullying, Smears & Racism ….

Minded of the fact that Skeptyk has been proven dishonest here is a posting he made on a Forum yesterday, which has been forwarded to me:

Skeptyk blog reveals that De Villiers is NOT leaving the EFD

    Oh dear oh dear oh dear. It would appear that the Junius team have got it wrong YET AGAIN

    I understand that Phillippe de Villiers, the French MEP that Junius says is leaving the EFD, has emailed his assurances to the UKIP MEPs and their staff that he will not be leaving the EFD and moreover, is very happy with the EFD. Oh dear, yet again we have an outright lie issued by Junius as gospel. Not the first time, and I’m certain it won’t be the last.

    What does Comical Timmy, Junius’ media mouthpiece have to say about that? Surely as a trusted confidante of Batten, you’d be aware of this would you not?

    More details on my new blog – Skeptyk’s blog

I haven’t looked at the new blog but I expect we can count on it being a smear and distort blog in the style of the oh so Common Man blog and others widely believed to be run by members of the EUkip claque including Mark Croucher who runs numerous attack teams – particularly singling me out and spreading lies, innuendo and smears to try to undermine me.

During the last election he even went as far as to lie to the BBC informing them that I was a supporter of The BNP. We have all seen much that Mark Croucher, Nigel Farage, Martin Hasslam, Andrew Moffat, Buster Mottram and others in the Nigel Farage fan club have done to raise the profile of the BNP – as here:

I am assured, never having met any senior BNP supporters – viz: Mottram, Croucher, Devin,Le Comber, Griffin, Hasslam, Moffat or their ilk, that the characters in the photo above are Anthony le Comber, Mark Deavin & Nigel Farage.

I understand that despite the fact that it was widely believed that Farage had had at least one meeting with representatives of the BNP at the time this particular photograph was taken after he had had lunch with these two characters and had been discussing the possibilities of his moving to the BNP together with a number of his chums in his claque at UKIP – as he had fallen out with the leadership at the time.

Subsequently to hide his affiliations there were 5 or 6 published explanations from Farage  which varied in dishonesty from ‘The meeting didn’t take place – to ‘It is a fake photo’ – to ‘Le Comber has been added’ – to ‘I have been added’ – to ‘it was a set up in the street I don’t even know who these people are’. And so on!

There are almost as many variations from Farage of his liason with Lega from rega – the prostitute who beguiled him back to her flat, had sex with him 7 times whilst he was unconcious drunk, using ice and spanking as a stimulant as story she sold to the meeeja. Until the new hymn book Farage commissioned was published, this month, which led to the One Testicle Gathering of EUkippers in Milton Keynes – well that was the main topic in the media! What one testicle and two egos!

The only written comments authorised by Farage, prior to that, were outrage from his puppet Paul Nuttall who he parachuted in as chairman of EUkip after his ‘knife job’ on Gregg Beaman – Nuttall wrote a letter of fabrications and lies to Anthony Butcher amongst other things claiming Farage objected to comments about him as he had not paid the prostitute – No Farage, The News of The World did that for you!


Now let us be specific about the liar and coward Skeptyk – IF we are to believe him Junius has published some information that subsequently has altered!

Yes – So what?

I knew at the beginning of last week that Phillipe de Villiers was leaving Farage’s grubby little group of EFD racists, xenophobes, advocates of violence and pro EU membership sweepings of EU politics after the General Election and joining Sarkozy’s group in the Pan EU Political Party grouping. I was given to understand he had agreed to say nothing until after the British General Elections – I also knew that Farage had lost his battle to keep Stuart Wheeler on board as his personal Milch Cow to fund both HIS election and HIS debts as incurred by HIM through the Guilty verdict in the Courts.

I was asked not to publish my information and having received it on trust I did NOT publish it.

Junius had clearly picked up some of the information and as is their won’t published it AFTER a conversation with me, in which I made it clear that as far as I knew they were accurate and not being set up – a practice common in EUkip (consider the efforts to set up NEC members with fake eMails to entrap them, then Croucher’s efforts to frame the dieing Piers Merchant, the efforts to portray Suchorzewski as homosexual and a BNP supporter by Croucher, Farage, Fuller etc. Then the lies and dishonest distortions frequently published about me – need I go on, for I can!).


Junius published – I went back to my sources and obtained their OK and I also published.

Clearly Junius had not received the spon that de Villiers would stay till after the General Election. I suggest you ask YOUR EUkip MEP and ask when Farage told them about Stuart Wheeler setting up his own party – if I have known about it way before I’m sure Farage did, and as part of a team we can assume he kept his MEPs informed NOT.

I understand the revelations have caused such a panic in EUkip that they have hastilly tried to curry favour by Farage (We were all told Pearson was leader and James Pryor was campaign manager) yet Farage phones the EUkip PPC for Bexhill & Twiddly Push or whatever to stand down!! Is EUkip really a Political Party or just a vehicle for the enrichment of a cabal of crooks and some spineless hangers on!

Anyway I hope this helps understand the dishonesty of the spin Skeptyk is trying to put on de Villiers planned  departure.

The spin on Anthony Butcher’s forum to TRY to explain away Stuart Wheeler dumping EUkip is most imaginitive – we can expect a letter from Wheeler to claim he is supporting EUkip because he believes every word about their unity and considers Farage’s accounts to be clear, open, transparent and on the net and just like Clinton Farage is believable when he claims ‘I did not have sex with that woman and more importantly I did not pay the prostitute’. Yeah!

There is every reason to believe that Junius DID NOT LIE – but told the whole truth as they understood it and subsequently a panic letter has been sent out – thus making Junius’s posting at very worst out of date PERHAPS.

The endless cries from Croucher, Skeptyk, Baron, Denny, Stuart Parr and the like are so very damaging for EUkip when it is clear that in information gathering and distribution as we seek to try AS UKIP SUPPORTERS of many years standing to try to Clean it up and force it to act HONESTLY, Transparently, Responsibly with some effort at professionalism – there would be absolutely no gain for us in telling anything but the truth.

In over 1,000 blog entries on the Internet EUkip and its army of muck rakers and gutter dwellers have failed to identify a single solitary material dishonesty in any single posting I have made. Is it any wonder the standard of dishonesty of EUkip’s leadership and its immediate supporters doesn’t bear ANY scrutiny as they vomit forth their smears and dishonesty unable to substantiate a single one!

Do YOU believe that caliber of individual should be funded from the public purse? Do you believe that EUkip’s behaviour as a dustbin for the protest vote warrant HONEST votes ar public office.

Would you care to ask YOUR EUkip MEP just how much consultation and facts Farage gave them when he formed his sordid racist, anti Jewish, sexually intolerant Pan EU Political Party EFD grouping with its clear pro EU membership stance. Ask if they were aware howmany EUkip de Hont Points, Speaking Time, A & B grade staff, committee seats etc. were used to buy in members from other Countries and other values and other aims to represent Britain!

I shall probably not visit Skeptyk’s blog as there is little doubt that it will follow in the steps of Bloggers4ukip, The Common Man and the like as just another poisonous smear campaign bringing UKIP into further disrepute in its dishonesty.

It seems not to have started out very well trying to claim Junius is a liar when clearly they are not.

Once again you have my assurance that I try in everything I write to be accurate and will publish a correction and apology for every material error that is pointed out, I will however ignore the comments of liars and cowards like Skeptyk as they have proved dishonest and they can not be checked as they are too ashamed to put their name to their lies & smears.


I was opposing racism when many in EUkip were in Nappies they talk a good talk but which of them have been fired on, arrested and held in opposition to apartheid (don’t forget EUkip’s EFD partners advocate killing Africans and apartheid on transport! These are the people Croucher is PR for!) My first understanding of racial hatred was at bayonnett point in Kharachi in 1949! I was opposing amalgamation of Continental EUrope in about 1960. I resigned from Sandhurst in protest at British Troops on stand by to go into Rhodesia against ex-pats, and British troops as mercenaries in Australian uniforms in Nam.

I’m not entirely sure that Britain would not be better off in the EU than governed by the scum that has risen to control of EUkip – fortunately they are unlikely EVER to gain power much beyond performance art and decent folk can either clean EUkip up or failing that find more honest ways to fight to get Britain OUT of the EU – since as ever EUkip talk the talk but when it comes to walking the walk they seem to have absolutely no ethics or integrity!
 
TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples – they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.


Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country.

Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Leave-the-EU

to

Reclaim YOUR Future
&
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

IF You Have No INDEPENDENT Leave-the-EU Alliance Candidate

LEAVE THE EU
to Reclaim YOUR Future
&
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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