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#899* – CROUCHER STYLE POISON CREEPS ARE OUT IN FORCE I SEE

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/03/2010

#899* – CROUCHER STYLE POISON CREEPS ARE OUT IN FORCE I SEE

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

CROUCHER STYLE POISON CREEPS ARE OUT IN FORCE I SEE! The so called Skeptyk on Butcher’s sordid and dishonest Forum advocates we go and view one of the EUkip pro EFD racist and anti Jewish supporting web sites similar to the filth Croucher has come out with in the past – and the lies of The oh so Common Man (whose style oh so resembles Croucher!!)

Hi,

one of the poisonous web sites managed ostensibly by Croucher style dishonesty and smear that has over many years done so much damage to UKIP and EUroScepticism with its endless dishonest attacks on private individuals in his support of EUkip and the gutter they inhabit and now in promotion of EUkip’s open and overt affiliation and support for Racism, anti Judaism and pro EU violence – the nasty cowardly web site specialises in manufacturing dishonest smears sheltering their corrupt lies and dishonesty behind anonymity as gutless cowards do.

We note they are always brought to our attention by unpleasant and dishonest characters – usually the same ones!

This time the cowards have posted the Press Cutting from years back shortly after Gary Cartright left The RAF after his service time was finished – which I published some time back Here it is:

I felt it was apposite to comment – if a little pointless as no one reads these blogs they seem to be there to Justify Croucher’s grubby existence prostituting himself to The EFD for the EU salary – some people have no integrity do they!

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Blogger Greg L-W. said…

Hi, am I missing something? So what? Correct me if I’m wrong but whilst you were beings very clever I’m sure wasn’t Cartright serving his Country in the RAF and then when he came out he had an interest – probably based on travel and experience, in politics and Joined The National Democrats standing for them briefly before moving on to join UKIP which was becoming more noticable. I gather he has served UKIP for a number of years but quit about when they amalgamated with the racists, xenophobes and anti Jewish extremists to form The Pan EU Political Party EFD grouping who are pro violence and membership of the EU. Rather than support evil surely it is honourable to distance oneself – meanwhile there are still those who are prepared to prostitute themselves and their vote to support the utterly corrupt views of The EFD. Well done Cartright at least you have some moral fibre – more than can be said for EUkip & the EFD! Regards, Greg L-W.

8 March 2010 10:23 

Gary Cartrights actions seem to have been at much the same time that Nigel Farage was negotiating with 

 
Tony Le Comber & Mark Deavin
with Nigel Farage

understood to be after a lunch negotiating to see what future Farage might have in a far right extremist party having been suspended from UKIP by Alan Sked – but the blog is right to show how peoples political views change.

One need only recall that not long ago Mark Croucher was colluding with the convicted criminal Jerry Gable who runs the anti democratic and unpleasant Left Wing funded  extremist Searchlight and was trading details of UKIP members with them with Farage’s approval.

Now we note that Mark Croucher is media manager for the extremist group The EFD which is largely pro EU, distinctly Racist, openly Xenophobic and anti Jewish The EFD which he is paid to promote on a grade B standard salary of around €5,000 a month is not only racist but has advocated hunting and shooting homosexuals and bombing Africans in boats – Some people will do anything for money regardless of how sordid it may be.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
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#898* – EUkip’s goffers DISGRACE THE PARTY WITH LIES & SPIN

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/03/2010

#898* – EUkip’s goffers DISGRACE THE PARTY WITH LIES & SPIN

RESPONSE ADDED AT C04:00hrs. 09-Mar-2010

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

EUkip’s goffers THE DENNYS, CROUCHERS, MAHONEYS, MCGOUGHS, PARR their SOCK MUPPETS & THEIR ILK DISGRACE THE PARTY WITH LIES & SPIN! AS THE PARTY BEFOULES THE EUroSceptic Movement!

Hi,

having just come in and having decided to check a quote from Butcher’s gruby little forum on to comment to Steve Halden I note Septic is up early but then of course the continent is an hour ahead of us.

I note the posters self image but why use a photo of Eric Edmond?

The desperate efforts to distort and lie are so pathetic I usually ignore these muppets who – even they – are too ashamed to put their names to their lies, distortions and desparation, one can hardly blame them.

That they use multiple names and obfuscation speaks volumes of these scum – I have NEVER posted in any name but my own with intent to deceive (thats a bit muddling but I’m sure honest readers will understand my point!).

Clearly I could dishonourably hide my identity but then it would be difficult for people to contact me if they wished to correct an error – however it does leave me open to endlessly being libelled and smeared but fortunately the facts gainsay their lies time and again and as yet in 64 years no one has ever been able to establish I have ever lied or misled ANYONE deliberately or wittingly.

I stand by what I write and I try to be 100% ethical – it is sad when liars and cheats like Mark croucher seek to profit by that honesty as it is so very damaging for EUkip and those who pay him.

Let us look at what this piece of filth was too ashamed to put their name to – their posting is in blue and my comments are interleaved in black in italics:

#12

Senior Member skeptyk has some supporters skeptyk's Avatar

google_protectAndRun(“ads_core.google_render_ad”, google_handleError, google_render_ad); Well as per usual, Whatkins has got onto this forum which he swears he never reads

Why the childish name does it make him feel more grown up and mature?

Where have I EVER said I don’t read Forums? I have said I frequently don’t bother as there is so little to learn and rarely does it address facts or The EU and NEVER informs in any way of value – it is the childrens’ playground for the foul mouthed, self serving and rather unpleasant squabbling members left in EUkip – few of whom one would wish EVER to meet.

and has now claimed that he has shamed UKIP into publishing their expenses.

 I do believe we did – we made it known at the beginning of the week in conversation we had obtained some of them and when I had all of them on the 3rd. I posted the first one early on Friday morning – at which time I believe you will find they were not readily available on the internet – I note you claim not to have read them until later that same day. I noted within the last 12 hours OR SO that they were up on an obscure EU web site not even linked from EUkip or their web site.

You will note my later comments once they were up clearly stated where people could find the unconvincing figures. You can not for a moment believe that ANY of the sketchy inconsequential obfuscation could be termed ACCOUNTS in any meaningful way and to so dishonestly pass them off as such makes yet more of a liar of Farage who first announce that to ENSURE TRANSPARENCY EUkip MEPs would publish their accounts every 1/4. This statement was made, as I recal, at the same time he PROMISED no EUkip elected Official would ever employ a family member – no doubt Croucher can remind us f the exact date back in about 1999.

Farage lied then and he is telling lies now. These ARE NOT ACCOUNTS and they are NOT TRANSPARENCY – furthermore why have EUkip MEPs positioned themselves as EFD MEPs and distanced themselves from the party and principles which elected them?

Not quite sure of that one Gregory, seeing as I was reading them on Friday (5/3/10) and I see that neither you nor Junius had published them by then so to claim that you personally shamed UKIP into publishing this information is as fatuous and false a story as you have ever claimed, which by your standards is quite something.

Something of a failure of spin and a failure of smear that rather backfires on you doesn’t it – with lies like this no wonder you are too ashamed to put your name to them.

So for all of you on the defence fund, Whatkins, Warry, West and (depending who one spoke to) Edmond, who campaigned for transparency of UKIP

Indeed we did and I am proud to say that every one of us continues to campaign for transparency of the public purse and seek to expose the endemic and systemic theft that would appear  to be very much the ethos of EUkip – be that Farage admitting he had made around £2 million – where it is known he banked 100s of £1,000s in overseas accounts and less than 15% of the money collected via the Ashford scams ever reached the party, where £1/4 million was removed and banked in a private bank account in one instance alone.

Then of course there was the unlawful series of lotteries that in theory may over the years have made a further £million – then we have the clear detailing of the media how MEPs can and do line their pockets to the tune of £1 Million per electoral term. We then note that Large sums of money would seem to have been laundered through credit card facilities in a privately owned hotel. It is also noted that much work has been paid without any concept of tendering as with the amounts of money paid to Stuart Gulleford’s Mother, ostensibly but untransparently for so called research.

I gather Gerard Batten’s brother is unlikely to have been unrewarded as a printer without tender – the apparent fidles run to £Millions and I presume for your lies, dishonesty and spin you are well rewarded all be it much too ashamed to put your identity to your mallevolent behaviour.

whilst denying it in return of their own accounts

I have NEVER denied them but I have unequivocally stated they are none of your damned business – none whatsoever. You are too ashamed to even put your name to your cowardly dishonesty. The day I am accountable to a sock puppet too ashamed to admit who they are is never going to come.

A private fund, contributed to privately and disbursed privately to the satisfaction of those who contributed is absolutely none of your business nor that odious, dishonest, dishonourable excrecence Mark Croucher despite the fact that you cave carried on your icestuous conversation for some 20,000 viewings to see just how very unpleasant EUkip and its staff and supporters are and just how distanced from the UKIP that existed until the likes of you befouled it.

– let UKIPs transparency reports be an example of how to be transparent.

They are as you must realise a total embarrassment not just a day late and a Dollar short but dishonest and self serving they are an object lesson in how not to behave in public office when handling public money.


Nigel Farage is seen beyond a doubt to be a liar and a cheat and his MEPs also as these are NOT accounts they are a travesty not a transparency. Even the pond life that remains in support of EUkip in its new EU based status of The EFD MEPs can only posture and prance in defence of such dishonesty on the part of the EFD MEPs.

As none of you people are in any position to judge transparency of anyone,

I can and do judge and I have every right as a tax payer funding the dishonesty of EUkip to do so and I find and believe without exception that EUkip’s remaining MEPs are criminally wanting in honesty, probity, transparency, integrity and honour – filth beneath contempt to a man.

given your own reticence to offer it on your defence fund,

I neither offer it nor proffer it and unlike EUkip MEPs who seem to have stolen £Millions between them I am not obliged to even consider casually informing you or any of the filth that supports the corruption, dishonesty and outright theft that would seem to pass for transparency in EUkip. That you choose to support corruption and do so without being man enough to identify yourself speaks volumes of the veracity and legitimacy of your behaviour.

I rather hope that you will see UKIPs example as something for you confidence tricksters to aspire to.

Clearly a libel but consider the source! A liar, a cheat and too ashamed and embarrassed to put your name to your serial dishonesty and unpleasant and childish posturing – I note you post your lies and libels in public in a sheltered Forum aided by the dishonesty of its administrators who provide a platform for filth like you to perform. Sadly it speaks volumes of just how controlled the weak and self important Anthony Butcher is that he provides such a platform for you to lie and defame without one shred of factual evidence of any consequence you are a vile creep and he is little better.

Anyway, seeing as the UKIP reports were for 6months,

I note you no longer pretend they were accounts and clearly they show Farage to have lied and gained votes in May based on deception – why are we not surprised.

I would imagine that we will get the first half of this years report sometime in the summer.

But when will we get the Quarterly ACCOUNTS promised and when will there be an honest attempt at transparency?

I very much doubt such accounts will be forthcoming and it is unlikely they will materialise once EUkip as a party is transfered to being The EFD and it is wuld up unable to honour the debts Farage and his corrupt cronies earned and saDDLED THE MISBEGOTTEN nec WITH.

A good start from UKIP – long may it continue

An abject failure on the part of EUkip – dishonestly manipulated obfuscation on an alien web site distanced from the members and electorate and in breech of any spirit of integrity and honour in the lies of Nigel Farage – transparency can not be expected to continue – there is no sign it has commenced.


Skeptic – whoever you are you are not just a disgrace to the EUroSceptic movement you are an excrecence to mankind.

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RESPONSE ADDED AT C04:00hrs. 09-Mar-2010

SKEPTIC:
Clearly in cowardice – aware that they were unable to give an honest answer made a posting that is so typically another pack of lies – as shown to be the Croucher style – all dishonest spin and total lack of substance!

A style of behaviour which has almost finally destroyed EUkip befouled by such dishonesty and corruption.

Here is the unpleasant little cowards wheedling to try to justify their dishonesty:

Right then, I know this might be slightly off-topic and for that I apologise, but seeing as Whatkins has chosen to respond on his blog to my points made earlier, I feel it apposite to respond – I can’t be bothered emailing him or putting a comment in the necessary bits on his blog for I think I know he will not show what I write or will at least edit my comments in his favour.

Well I guess it is an attempt to justify which one would expect a coward and a liar to use – too ashamed to put his name to his wheedling dishonesty – why are we not surprised, it is so very typical of EUkip.

To date, despite the lies and bluster these cowardly liars in Croucher’s style have proved completely unable to identify a single consequential error on ANY of my blogs or ‘e’Mails.

Stop telling lies you sordid little coward.

I cannot see him responding to this as to do so would admit his lies on at least one count but I shall let you judge;

Why might I not? I have frequently offered to attend a meeting near my area and am happy to face any form of adult cross examination you may wish in public. To imply otherwise is totally dishonest of you and so very cowardly.

I have NEVER refused to meet – ask BobFM who was too cowardly to meet as it fitted his image to lie about me and was clearly scared of the truth.

EUkip’s present North Swindon candidate has also declined a debate stating he lacks the facts to debate – yet he wants to be an MP!!!

He really does seem to believe that there is no standard too low to adopt to fulfil his ambitions – he even finds it acceptable to help the vile Racist, violent and anti Jewish pro EU EFD – just how low has EUkip sunk!

Right first of all Whatkins – forgive my spelling, but anyone who refers to people as the BobFM

 Check through the record on Butcher’s sordid forum and even a coward like you will find you have yet again lied – I doubt you will have the integrity to put your identity to your lies and appologise.

or The Desk

& why not – there is a clear relevance in that the ONLY plausible link to the Liberal Prime Minister  over 100 years ago that David Bannerman was EVER able to clearly establish was that his Father had owned the man’s desk.

That David Bannerman has been proven a liar and a cheat is thus irrefutable as he NEVER managed to provide one shred of documentary evidence to substantiate his dishonest claim – but made much of it to cheat the electorate.

There is mre likelihood that David Bannerman is the illegitimate son of either his Mother or his Father as he has still not provided his full birth certificate and seems not to be registered when he claims in The India Book – there is much reason to believe he is a fraud and strangely was unable to remember any details of a part of his claimed schoolin/education.

That the VERY BEST this dishonest little creep could achieve to identify himself was to cheat and lay claim to ownership of a desk!!

So another failure of dishonest spin so typical of EUkip and the Croucher style.

really isn’t in any position to pull people over spelling of one’s name –

Spell my name how you like if it empowery you as clearly you are too cowardly even to use yours.

anyway, can I ask re the accounts; do you honestly think that the accounts were hurriedly compiled and published online as a way to pre-empt your claim to have received Clark’s accounts.

No – did you? I know they have been around for some time – that I made it known I had them and although EUkip/EFD knew they were clearly inadequate and thus had not posted them.

Nowhere was the information realistically available on the web – they still aren’t!

I published the outline of Deadwood Derek’s overnight on the Thursday – YOU CLAIM, but too cowardly to put your name to it, that you found the material on the Friday – some days later you claim to have read the material! I do not believe any part of your story as you would have flagged them up on the Friday and also would have realised they were utterly irrelevant and wholly inadequate.

I know on many facts you are a liar and I also believe you have lied here.

What is YOUR excuse for Farage’s lies and the EFD/EUkip failure to make their so called ‘Transparency’ transparent having hidden them on an obscure web site where the MEPs are clearly gone native.

Are you suggesting that these figures were drawn from thin air as an immediate way to counteract your publishing of Clark’s accounts.

No and neither did I claim they did.

Do you honestly think that someone in UKIP though ‘Quick, Whatkins has Clark’s accounts, lets get some out there before he releases them all’. Get real.

Very Real and it does clearly look as if EUkip had its hand forced. It matters not as they failed to honour Farage’s promise.

Do you happen to know if they ever intend to act ethically and publish their accounts as promised?

And as I have said earlier, I would find it highly amusing if you people actually paid someone to provide the accounts of an MEP who’s details were online already.

What a foolish idea when there are so many staff and members who are disgusted by EUkip’s behaviour and have supplied material consistently. I appreciate as a dishonest coward you may find it hard to trust others but be assured I have NEVER paod for any EUkip information nor EVER been paid for information about EUkip.

But as you claim that in these figures are ‘unconvincing’, can I suggest that you log your concerns with the appropriate authorities

What authority might you suggest – you will be aware that I am in contact with various authorities over the lies, corruption, dishonesty, frauds,, embezellments and thefts as perceived of EUkip. Have you any suggestions as to who you may have notified what YOU perceive to be a crime to?

That I make material facts known on my various blogs clear and honestly portrayed proves adequate for some authorities and press to further investigate. I have never been concerned about the numbers who read my blogs I have been very flattered by the calliber who do and just howmany contact me and use the material – as with the imprisonment of Tom Wise – I tend not to let go. I also make a point of only publishing the truth – hence my blog has a following who know they can count on the facts.

I appreciate there are those who find my style not to their choice but when they decide to pay me I might consider their opinions! One advantage of not having to lick another man’s boots!

In my inportunity it would seem I have achieved the independence for which some Millionaires strive!

– if they have stated they would provide such figures quarterly, then they do deserve some criticism for not fulfilling that obligation.

They stated some 10 years ago they would provide accounts – in 2004 Farage PROMISED transparency and accounts.

In May, as I have shown, Farage PROMISED EACH elected Officer would provide accounts in full quarterly for transparency as an antedote to his claimed dishonesty of MPs.

When will a EUkip/EFD MEP publish his FIRST set of Qiarterly ACCOUNTS – rather than this insulting twaddle dashed out seemingly because I had obtained copies and was publishing them.

But as it is, I shall accept the figures they have given us – you wanted transparency, they have given you the transparency you have asked for and even then you complain.

Since you know nothing of integrity, honesty or morality and lack even the decency to put your identity to you lies and smears I care not whether you are fobbed off with this dishonest attempt at obfuscation.

Indeed I do complain they are already proven to be dishonest – they have shown that they are willing to collude in fraud – they have betrayed the electorate, not I – It is they who are liars Racists, anti Jewish, sexually intollerant advocates of violence as members of The EFD dishonestly assisting the EU and those who have chosen membership of the EU within the EFD.

It is they who are clearly achieving NOTHING of value for the peoples of Britain and have betrayed our Country and those who voted for them Indeed I complain at the fact they promised their full accounts 1/4ly in a move of transparency – when might we expect them to commence?

And i might add they have shown a darn sight more transparency than you gave as well!!!

The difference being your concern at a private matter, showing your misunderstanding of accounts and the difference between public funding and funding by voluntary contribution by members of the public. Further you conveniently fail, no doubt deliberately and dishonestly to recall it was made clear to donors that the fund would be confidential – YOu have neither a right nor any claim to information under any circumstances even were you less of a coward and put your name to your underhand behaviour and clear dishonesty.

But for those who do think that Whatkins has credibility and has never, ever, ever lied, please look at these two quotes from Whatkins regarding the ‘defence fund’ he is so keen to keep hidden (despite asking the general public to donate) and ask yourself how on God’s earth can both of these statements be true. At the very least, one is a lie… For the record, these statements were made a few weeks apart…

I shall leave it to Niall warry to point out YET AGAIN, your dishonesty and your stupidity – not to forget your abject failure to identify the lie you dishonesty claim

Quote Originally Posted by GLW
John West at no stage in time received a single penny piece as cash or cheque, nor any other sum of money, from the so called defence fund, Niall Warry or myself towards ANY legal costs he may have incurred in seeking to expose the corruption of EUkip nor UKIP nor any individual therein – either for past cases, current cases or ongoing cases. There was NEVER an intent to fund his costs, particularly in the light of the Sanders findings! source: Junius on UKIP: Greg Lance-Watkins on the lies of Mark Croucher
 
Quote Originally Posted by GLW
Anyway – at last herewith John West’s statement on todays resounding victory and he asked how he could pay off the money he had received from the defence fund that had aided him throughout but we have declined as the donations were made in good faith and he had acquitted his end of the bargain by his efforts to clean up EUkip in the intention of TRYING to make it electable, which clearly it is not in any rational or honourable way. – source: CATERPILLARS and BUTTERFLIES: #759* – EUkip EARNS ANOTHER GUILTY VERDICT!
 

Gregory – why would John West offer to repay monies he got from the defence fund when a few weeks earlier, you emphatically said he never received any and not only that, was never intended to receive any…

VERY SIMPLE – Here is Niall Warry’s reply provided yet again!

Your query is very simple to answer and has been answered by me before.

As GLW said JW did not receive any money towards any legal costs which is not to say he did not receive money for his out of pocket expenses which is what he offered to try and repay but we declined his offer.

I have tried to avoid re-entering your world of spin and distortion on this matter but I felt the above comment appropriate just to prove what a merchant of spin you are and how quite frankly there is no level to which you will not stoop to distort things for your own ends.

My thanks to Niall – for the record I would incline to ignore Mark Croucher’s dishonesty, spin and lies in future and particularly thos of the sock muppets too dishonest and cowardly put their names to their lies and distortions.

 I get a feeling he won’t answer these queries…

Septic – why would I not be prepared to reply as having told the truth throughout I have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of unlike you who are so ashamed of your behaviour you are unwilling to put your identity to it.

You are a liar as proven, you are a coward as proven, you are duplicitous and dishonest as proven – You have all the answers such filth might reasonably expect to receive.

I doubt you will have the integrity or morality to post the whole of this blog which exposes you for the filth you clearly are on Butcher’s Forum – I expect you to take the cowards option and try to get the Croucher identity or one of the other sock muppets to try to justify your behaviour and claim you could not post all of this on the forum for some invented technical reason – as you really are beneath contempt in all your vile personnas.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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#897* – EUkip ITS LIARS & SOCK MUPPETS

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/03/2010

#897* – EUkip ITS LIARS & SOCK MUPPETS

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

EUkip ITS LIARS & SOCK MUPPETS SEEMINGLY FUNDED AND CONTROLLED TO SUPPORT THE RACIST PR EU ANTI JEWISH EFD!

Hi,

I thought I would dispel the myths and lies of Mark Croucher who is now paid by the EU to promote the racist, anti Jewish, xenophobic, advocates and practicioners of violence of the Pan EU Political Party EFD grouping which is largely pro EU membership many of whose members voted FOR the NEW CONSTITUTION of the EU called The Lisbon Treaty.

Mark Croucher and various other liars and dissemblers like Stuart Parr and various sock muppets supporting Nigel Farage in many cases for money as hired praise singers and even some who have believed the lies, the spin and the betrayal of these United Kingdoms by EUkip as it is propagandised by the collective scum of the EFD.

Please note below is a comment put on Nikki Sinclaire’s web site in July 2009 which I whole heartedly endorse.

Following that is an outline of The EFD – which I unequivocally repudiate.

You may have noticed, despite the lies and spin of Mark Croucher and his muppets that I have never in well over a dozen years of supporting UKIP, I have NEVER materially and wittingly lied or misled ANYONE. They are unable to find an instance when I have so much as altered my position of implacable opposition to membership of the EU and furthermore every action I have taken has been at my own and of course Lee’s expense.

Whilst sordid little people in EUkip betrayed our Country for personal gain, in some cases huge personal gain I have received 2 cheques for £100 each from private individuals and a replacement computer when mine was indubitably damaged by the agents of the authorities.

To return to the EFD saga – in August I announced my belief that Nikki Sinclaire would be likely to part company with The EFD on principle and ethical grounds, in the light of having read a little of the Pan EU Political Party EFD grouping that was in its early stages – I cautioned it would be an error and damaging to UKIP if Farage was allowed to indulge himself by forming the Party group.

About a week before the start of the new session of the new Parliament I made it clear I believed that Sinclaire would not sell out her moral principles and that I hoped EUkip would have sufficient honourable MEPs to force Farage to reconsider – Sadly EUkip does not have a single solitary honourable MEP now that Sinclaire has left and they have all sold out any principles they MAY have had.

Without exception EUkip MEPs are scum, mostly more stupid but clearly no less unethical and dishonest, corrupt and self serving than TheBNP who Mark Croucher and Nigel Farage went to such lengths to raise the profile of during the EU elections and before – now we see why, now they have formed a Pan EU Political Party EFD group more racist even than The VILE BNP.

It may interest or embarrass you to know that every step of the slide into the gutter was predicted in some accuracy a dozen years – I even stated that in a desparate last ditch attempt EUkip would take a populist lurch to seek the support of the lowest common denominator – and indeed there can not be a person of honour and integrity who is not disgusted by EUkip’s lurch to racism and their transparent bid for the gutter of politics rivaling The BNP for the ‘knee jerk’ racist vote with their vociferous and offensive braying at 1,000 to 1,500 women who, some through choice others through it being forced upon them, wear the Burqa, Niqab or Hijab.

This is just following in the footsteps of The Nazi Party in the 1920s & 30s when they stirred up hatred against Jews to elevate themselves – Like the Nazi Party EUkip got elected on promises it has rneged on falsehoods that it built on and principles it does not have and just like the Nazi Party it changed its tune and the rules once elected to do all it could to stay in power or in the case of EUkip stay with their snouts in the best troughs on the Gravy Train – regardless of morality.

You may remember that as a result of close following of EUkip I predicted Sinclaire’s moves – frequently before she made them. I published her meeting with Pearson for dinner within hours of Farage knowing, I published Pearson’s comments shortly after he had told Farage. I predicted Farage’s lies and temper tantrum rather embarrassingly about a day before he had them (he is very very predictable!) I published his vile attempt at blackmail and that he had admitted that Croucher was employed to scurry round the gutters picking up any crumb to keep Farage in office – including blackmail.

You will remember I published Sinclaire’s bankruptcy shortly after it had happened – Croucher to try to impress his master resurected this old and irrelevant history. A sordid little man utterly without morality who has shown he is prepared to prostitute himself in any gutter be it Searchlight and its anti democratic criminality or the Racist and anti Jewish EFD.

You will note I published Farage’s behaviour throughout and it was clear it would come to a head at the first NEC meeting in January  which I predicted about 14 days before hand – And it did having been picked up on shortly after by Junius.

In desparation whilst £Millions have gone missing in EUkip and Farage admitted to personally profiting by about £2 million and 100s of £1,000s have seemingly been perloined the fatuous Croucher has conversations with lap tops to generate a desparate attempt to try to dream up some conspiracy over the collection of funds suggested by me and managed largely by Niall Warry – Croucher’s efforts to build a case has been risible – not least as it was NOT public money, every single person who domated was entirely happy and it was absolutely none of this vile little ‘Peeping Tom’s’ business.

Clearly there was no material inpropriety and no one ever believed there was but the sordid little Croucher has tried to imply there was some sort of impropriety – he and those who are paid in one form or another were the only contributors to the thread who kept this dead topic alive 20,000 viewings and 873 postings and not a single solitary example of material impropriet can you or your muppets show – NOT ONE so there have been 20,000 viewings that have had the opportunity to see you for the unpleasant weedling little liar you are – Well done, how do you imagine that has done anything but harm UKIP and oh so typical of EUkip.

Stand back and try to empathise whith how an honourable man of some integrity might view the postings of yourself, Douglas Denny, Mahoney, Baron, Septic, and the other EUkip supporting muppets with their vile language, anally retentive obsessions, offensive uncorroborated attacks and serial dishonesty – just how can such unpleasant people consistently and unpleasantly abusing private individuals show EUkip for anything but the untrustworthy, dishonourable gutter snipes they quite clearly are.

Do you believe this enhances membership or its caliber?

Here is Nikki Sinclaire’s commentary on the odious EFD – sheduled to become Farage’s vehicle when it becomes a fully fledged Pan EU Political Party in November when EUkip collapses in ruins due to the massive debts Farage has incurred with his posturing and dishonesty – particularly appropos The Electoral Commission – just how will the party fund the £1.2 million or so debt Farage and Andrew Smith with help from some bit players have EARNED.

Nikki’s previous statement, Brussels, 1st July 2009
Nikki is guided by the goal and principle of the UK withdrawing from the EU.
In her work to achieve the above she will constantly be reviewing her actions and associations and will endeavour to make the right decisions.

EUROPE of FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY
The Group Political Platform

The Group is open to Members that subscribe to a Europe of Freedom and Democracy and acknowledge the United Nations Declaration on Human Rights and parliamentary democracy.

The Group subscribes to the following programme:

1. Freedom and co-operation among people of different States
Committed to the principles of democracy, freedom and co-operation among Nation States, the Group favours an open, transparent, democratic and accountable co-operation among sovereign European States and rejects the bureaucratisation of Europe and the creation of a single centralised European superstate.

2. More democracy and respect of People’s will
Convinced that the legitimate level for democracy lies with the Nation States, their regions and parliaments since there is no such thing as a single European people; the Group opposes further European integration (treaties and policies) that would exacerbate the present democratic deficit and the centralist political structure of the EU. The Group favours that any new treaties or any modification of the existing treaties are to be submitted to the peoples’ vote through free and fair national referenda in the Member States. The Group does believe that the legitimacy of any power comes from the will of its Peoples and their right to be free and democratically ruled.

3. Respect for Europe’s history, traditions and cultural values
Peoples and Nations of Europe have the right to protect their borders and strengthen their own historical, traditional, cultural and religious values. The Group rejects xenophobia, anti-Semitism and any other form of discrimination.

4. Respect for national differences and interests: Freedom of votes
Agreeing on embodying these principles in its proceedings, the Group respects the freedom of its delegations and Members to vote as they see fit.


SINCLAIRE’s more recent posting on her web site

19th January 2010
Why UKIP should leave the Europe of Freedom and Democracy (EFD) Group
The Case for withdrawal

1. UKIP MEPs were elected to represent UKIP and to pursue the argument for EU withdrawal
We stood for election on a platform of principle and clarity. We were elected as UKIP and to fight for withdrawal from the EU. We should stay true to that. We were not elected to join to support the Parliament’s agenda and certainly not to work alongside those against withdrawal. You elected UKIP but have got EFD.

2. By sitting with MEPs who are against withdrawal we are compromising our case
In the eyes of the European Parliament and many observers we are seen as EFD and not UKIP. Yet all EFD members, except UKIP, are working hard to make the EU better. They do not want withdrawal. They would not allow the word ‘withdrawal’ or ‘independence’ to be used in the Group’s mission statement. We are therefore part of a coalition that waters down and even contradicts our original position. We compromise both our principles and our action.

3. EFD helps the EU to work; we should not be doing that
Few people in UKIP understand the extent to which the Party has been subsumed within the group. EFD wants to make the European Parliament stronger. It wants the EU to work better. It argues for constructive reform. On a day-to-day basis it often supports the introduction of directives and policies to expand EU power. The Co-presidents,Lega Nord, call for a single European policy on immigration. UKIP should be on the opposite side – arguing against reform and for abolition.

4. EFD includes some very strange bedfellows
The group contains parties who have a variety of extremist views which includes racism, anti-Semitism and violence. One of these parties, Lega Nord was removed from the last EU group to which UKIP belonged, Indpendence & Democracy (Ind Dem), because of their extremist views. Despite this history, they are now Co-Presidents ofEFD and hold the power of veto on Nigel Farage.

Political Editor and commentator, Seamus Milne, on the Politics Show (16th January 2010) described Lega Nord as “vicious” and said that we “were in bed with some very ugly people.”

In a BBC interview, Nikki Sinclaire MEP and Mike Nattrass MEP were asked, if UKIP was not a racist party why we were linked up to parties like Lega Nord who advocated shooting and sinking ships full of immigrants and also called African immigrants ‘ Bingo Bongos’? A Lega Nord member was convicted of setting alight an immigrant’s belongings, endangering their life.

5. EFD compromises our position both in Brussels and in Britain
UKIP has to water down its words and tactics in Brussels so as not to upset other members of EFD who take the reformist, anti-withdrawal line. And EFD will only back UKIP in Britain when UKIP promotes arguments that fall short of outright withdrawal. Leading Economics Professor, Tim Congdon stated in late 2009 that he was very disappointed to see the extent to which UKIP MEPs “had been ‘captured’ in the sense of not seeing that their job was in Britain, not in Brussels or Strasbourg.” UKIP leader, Lord Pearson also recently stated that “our role in Britain is what matters not the European Parliament.”

6. It is a myth that we benefit financially from EFD membership
It is claimed that Group membership brings with it money for UKIP. This is completely false. First it would be illegal to pass this money to UKIP. It is for the use of EFD and very restrictive rules apply. Secondly the budget follows MEPs whatever group they are in. If one joins the non-aligned, the EU monies allocated are slightly less but at least you can be in charge of all your allocation. In some instances, there would be fewer restrictions. For example, the UKIP logo could be prominently used with the party and MEP’s name. In the first six months of this parliament, the West Midlands’ region has not received one penny from the EFD, yet both MEPs would have had over £40,000 to use in that period had they been non-aligned.

7. Being in EFD gets us more media coverage
Neither the public nor most journalists have ever heard of EFD. Our media coverage results from what UKIP, its MEPs and campaigners do and say. When Nigel appears on TV, it is as UKIP. It should also be noted that Tory MEP, Daniel Hannan received more press attention as a non-aligned member than Nigel Farage did when they both attacked Gordon Brown.

8. Because the EFD group is a precursor to a full Pan European political party
The current proposal on the table for UKIP MEPs in Brussels is for UKIP to join such a party to conform to the EU plan to entrench the federalist Euro-state:a President, a Foreign Secretary, Flag, Anthem, Police Force, Army, Parliament, MEPs and pan-European political parties. We should do as the electorate told us to do and SAY NO to European Union and to those apparata that help them to remove our sovereignty and our British identity
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To see the original on her web site CLICK HERE

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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