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#852* – DID THIS LETTER HELP CONVINCE EUkip NEC?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/02/2010

#852* – DID THIS LETTER HELP CONVINCE EUkip NEC?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

DID THIS LETTER HELP CONVINCE EUkip NEC? WHEN THEY STOOD UP TO FARAGE & SET ASIDE HIS IRRESPONSIBLE and DAMAGING ANTICS!

Hi,

Is this the letter that convinced the NEC to have the courage to set aside Nigel Farage’s stupidity and self serving bad judgement that attacked the decision of Lord Pearson as leader of EUkip?

That grovellingly his puppets Paul Nuttall and the egregious Christopher Gill followed suit doing as they were ordered by Farage and digging the hole ever deeper.

Jill Seymour having just returned to the NEC reinstated after her resignation in what was perceived as disgust at the behaviour of the NEC by many who were quite impressed by such a principled stance at the time, prorogued herself from the discussion as having been on Nikki Sinclaire’s staff until their ways parted in September (quite an unusual display of decency for an NEC member! You will note Denny votes on matters that concern him and happily rewrites the history to delude the ill informed! Also Up the Duff votes on matters pertaining to her and Peter Reeve, but then she has no principles [or abilities, well, commercial or political])

Interestingly the reason Jill Seymour gives for having stood down is that she was an employee at the time and thus debarred until she left Sinclaire’s employ in September – one has to wonder why Duffy is still tollerated on those grounds, and also why Seymour did not return in September.

One is forced to the realisation that EUkip is completely without principles on its NEC and amongst its leadership.

However the following letter and the fact that Edward McMillan-Scott has made it VERY public that he WILL take the Tories to the High Court and has Learned Advice that he will win must have shaken the NEC as even his many addicted boot lickers and place men turned against Farage and set aside his stupidity re-instating Sinclaire, but we await a copy of the letter from Zucherman to see if they include the terms, she has made clear must be included, before they are off the hook!

EDWARD MCMILLAN-SCOTT
EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT VICE-PRESIDENT
Yorkshire & Humber, UK
Brussels, 14 January 2010
LEADING MEP TO CHALLENGE TORIES OVER EUROPE
A leading MEP who defied the Conservative leadership over its European links is preparing a legal challenge after the party rejected his appeal against expulsion.
Mr Edward McMillan-Scott (Yorkshire & The Humber), re-elected a Vice-President of the European Parliament on July 14, for which the Conservative whip was removed, was expelled on September 15 without notice or reason. His appeal was heard on December 11, but was rejected by a panel of three Conservative Party office-holders, a Brussels press conference was told today (Thurs – 14 Jan).
McMillan-Scott, who stood against Polish MEP Michal Kaminski because of the latter’s “anti-Semitic, homophobic and racist links”, revealed that his stand was partly motivated by the ‘family shame’ – his maternal grandparents were imprisoned by Winston Churchill as senior members of the British Union of Fascists. The first ever Vice-President responsible for Democracy and Human Rights, McMillan-Scott has opposed totalitarianism throughout his political life and now focuses on reform in regimes such as China.
A former leader of the Conservative MEPs, McMillan-Scott was the architect of their 1999 link with the EPP Group which was replaced in July by David Cameron’s ECR Group. He will in future sit as an Independent Conservative, while seeking to rebuild the relationship with the EPP. McMillan-Scott explained that he had written to David Cameron last week and had made numerous private contacts with senior figures since the Conservative Party Conference to arrive at a positive conclusion. All had failed. He said:
“I stood and won re-election as European Parliament Vice-President with cross-party support against the controversial Polish MEP Michal Kaminski, breaking the Brussels consensus. The Conservative whip was withdrawn from me. Kaminski’s anti-Semitic words and deeds have been widely reported, most recently by BBC’s Newsnightspecial report.
“I stood against Kaminski because he represented the rise of disguised extremism at a key moment in European politics – the start of a new European Parliament which saw gains by the far right in 13 out of 27 EU countries, including the BNP in Britain. Last week, by chance on the day the Party delivered its dubious verdict, my aunt Diana Bailey revealed part of my personal motivation on the BBC Radio 4 programme Mother was a Blackshirt: the family secret since 1940 that my maternal grandparents were interned by Winston Churchill as senior members of the British Union of Fascists
“I was expelled from the Party without notice or reason in September. There is no shame in losing the whip on a point of principle: to be expelled for the same thing was disproportionate and plainly against natural justice.
“My appeal was heard by a panel of Party office-holders and in-house lawyers last month. The arguments raised on my side were compelling. But the panel dutifully upheld my expulsion – until after the next European Election in 2014. I wrote to David Cameron again last week and have made numerous private contacts with senior figures to arrive at a positive and discreet conclusion. All have failed.
“My lawyers – the best in their field – say the expulsion was unconstitutional, against natural justice and grossly disproportionate. Paul Daniels, a partner in the leading firm of solicitors Russell Jones and Walker, has advised that I have a clear action for breach of contract in the High Court. I am taking further advice, including from Counsel. This is not about me: it is about the values of the next British government.
“To put things in context, the only Conservative parliamentarians to have been expelled recently were Jeffrey Archer in 2001 for five years, following imprisonment for perjury; and Den Dover last year, ex-MP and ex-MEP, who allegedly misused £600,000 of his expenses. His expulsion was for only two years. In the context of the Westminster expenses scandal, for which no Conservative was expelled, or the serial disloyalty of Europhobes like Daniel Hannan, this will be seen by many as a serious case of double standards.
“In my case (I am now 60) the Party seeks to prevent my candidacy in the next European Election, merely for making a stand on matters of personal conscience. This raises very serious ethical, legal and political issues.
“As a Conservative Party member for 42 years, an MEP for 25, leader of the MEPs for four and a Conservative Board member for three years, this is no longer the Party I knew.
“I will now sit as an Independent Conservative, continuing generally to follow the Conservative whip in voting and serving my constituents as always without regard to party. I told BBC radio’s Today programme the day after my expulsion, “They can take me out of the Conservative party but they cannot take the Conservative out of me” , but even my loyalty is now stretched.
“The reputational damage of the new group is now being directed at David Cameron himself. The contemporary West End version of Misanthrope starring Kiera Knightly refers to Cameron’s links with ‘the European ultra-right’ and ‘his grubby fascist friend’. The play goes on to attack the bullying tactics of Conservative press officers, of whom I have been a target since June: ‘Withdraw your comment or we’ll have your balls’.”

END

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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#850* – GODFREY BLOOM – HIS FINEST HOUR? NOT. JUSTA ANOTHER!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/02/2010

#850* – GODFREY BLOOM – HIS FINEST HOUR? NOT. JUST ANOTHER!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

GODFREY BLOOM – HIS FINEST HOUR? NOT. 
JUST ANOTHER TYPICAL EUkip IDIOCY!

Hi,

I wonder can ANYONE  in the whole of EUkip identify ANTHING this foolish old man has done of ANY value towards Britain leaving the EU?

Does whoring ones way in a drunken stupor around the Parliament constitute a Patriotic gain that may help Britain leave the EU – does using ones diplomatic immunity to avoid charges for having sex with a black prostitute on a car bonnet grant gravitas to the cause of leaving the EU?

What EXACTLY have EUkip’s shower of MEPs and staff, many are better known for their perversions and dishonesty than ever they could be considered to be known for their EUroSceptic achievements. Just what has that maundering old Derek Clarke achieved for instance besides signing Britain up for GREATER Subsidiarity, boasting of his fraudullent behaviour, evicerating the membership in his EU region, employing a drunken taxi driver on £80,000 a year, just what is this senile old fool for?

Now we have this elderly buffoon Godfrey Bloom making a complete pratt of himself on YouTube again. Just what has being in Copenhagen on a jolly got to do with getting Britain out of the EU – was it that he had heard many of the hookers had died their pubic hair green and were turning tricks for free if you provided your ‘Accreditation’ ticket that attracted him!

What exactly does pretending to be a politician have to do with leaving The EU, especially when you have set up a Pan EU Political Party EFD group which is pro EU membership, campaigned and voted for the Lisbon Treaty, is racist, xenophobic and anti Jewish and espouses violence and aparteid style segregation – what has that to do with the £Millions that both Godfrey and even a dullard like Deadwood Derek expect to trouser per term.

Can ANYONE name someone of competence, gravitas, ability, vison and political savvy in EUkip’s leadership – just one!

Don’t say Farage, just look what a catastrophy he has been as leader, colluding with Tom Wise and taking absolutely no meaningful action against him whilst letting him pay off his own debts with money Tom Wise had stolen! Under Farage’s leadership the membership has collapsed, the Guilty verdict was earned in the Courts by his personal dishonesty, lack of morality and crass miscalculation that earned a £3/4Million debt which he has sold out the party to clear.

No I don’t think the co president of the pro EU EFD is any examplar which honest UKIP members would wish to follow – merely the corrupted and the naiive who as paid praise singers prop up this moral dyslexic as he persues his personal ambitions at the expense of the party, whilst using party money to feather his own nest and pay his wife with party money to stay at home.

Is it any wonder so many of EUkip’s MEPs and staff have been receiving letters from OLAF recently or just how many are under investigation – the only one so far to feature in the National press in this round has been Nattrass and he has made himself look a real fool with his handling of his position ensuring yet another paper will refuse the benefit of the doubt. To be fair the enquiy into Deadwood Derek the dishonest and corrupt old man from the EU’s East Midlands region has featured in the media; as did his Regional Organiser for drunken driving – its a big region on a push bike for a drunk!

Anyway have some comic relief – this is what Bloom thinks will help Britain get out of the EU and why he is making so much money doing absolutely nothing worthwhile, as with every other EUkip MEP since no one has identified a single solitary meaningful achievement by a EUkip MEP to get Britain out of the EU but Marta Andreassen is doing a good line in dishonesty and selling her novel,

Which EUkip MEP could ANYONE pretend was value for money?

Here we have Godfrey Bloom displaying he hasn’t a clue what he is talking about – indeed his sentiment regarding much of Green Piece’s activities is correct but although he comes across as an old man in a dole queue with his appearance and his faltering delivery he belies the fact that he is a high income politician with his complete lack of facts – NOT ONE just the sort of burbling prejudice you expect from an old man in a pub.

To compound his inadequate understanding of the situation and lack of factual backup – not one statistic, not one fact, not one name and then to cap it he crassly applauds the murder of a greenpeace activist by French security operatives in New Zealand – just howmany people can this imbecile insult and annoy in one go!

For a man on his salary to afterwards claim he had forgotten is just not good enough – but one must remember he advocates violence in his support of the EFD.

I deliberately didn’t bother with the comments section – in fact it being YouTube they were so predictable I saw no point in reading them – why oh why doesn’t this buffoon set an example for the other idiots in EUkip and stick to the ONE subject they stand a chance of learning and actually do the job they are paid for GET BRITAIN OUT OF THE EU.

No one, but no one gives a continental what the views of these fools are their policies and opinions are completely irrelevant – no one cares, they are just a sop to milk feeders unable to stomach their utter irrelevance.

EUkip stands absolutely no chance ever of having MPs with ANY influence at Westminster – in fact Westminster barely has any significance. EUkip have 13 completely useless and irrelevant MEPs in the EU clown parliament and they have not one wit of influence – they change NOTHING and absolutely no one can identify a single achievement towards getting Britain out of the EU.

That Farage stands up in the parliament and is rude to someone has absolutely no impact he has NEVER grown past his childhood predeliction for fart jokes – the grown ups just humour the cheekie chappie but when it comes to action we note Stuart Wheeler insisted he was dumped as leader and Pearson has set his own agenda based on high profile distraction technique and playing the Zionist Islamaphobic card.

Clearly Pearson, de Broke and Wheeler realise Farage is a liability and it is well known with Farage in place it was equivallent to slamming the door on City money where he is trusted about as far as anyone would kick him.

I wonder if Bloom will be man enough and smart enough to find a way of appologising for his biggest gaff so far a cock up of monumental proportions and I feel sure that is not what the black prostitute said!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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#849* – AN ACT OF PURE SELF INTEREST BY FARAGE

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/02/2010

#849* – AN ACT OF PURE SELF INTEREST BY FARAGE

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

AN ACT OF PURE SELF INTEREST BY FARAGE, HAVING CRASHED THE MEMBERSHIP, AIDED THE BNP, LIED ABOUT TOM WISE, ABUSED NIKKIE SINCLAIRE & CAUSED UKIP A £3/4MILLION DEBT WITH A GUILTY VERDICT THROUGH HIS DISHONESTY HE LEAVES THEM TO GET HIS SNOUT IN A NEW TROUGH!

Hi,

we are given to understand that Farage is supposedly calling on a ‘Voter’, one can only speculate at why she is looking so pleased to be photographed with him calling – NOT!

February 5, 2010

Speaker faces challenge to Buckingham seat from former UKIP leader

Nigel Farrage

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John Bercow would like to go down in history as a reforming Speaker of the Commons who helped to sweep politics clean and restore respect for Parliament.

Fulfilling those ambitions will depend on whether he can first overcome a challenge in his Buckingham constituency at the next election by an opponent determined to portray the Speaker as the embodiment of a discredited political system.

Mr Bercow is defending the safest seat in the country, on paper at least. Not only did he win the largest majority (18,129 votes) of any Conservative MP in 2005 but, in keeping with recent tradition by which serving Speakers are allowed a free run, Labour and Liberal Democrats have agreed not to field candidates.

Although many Tories openly distrust him, David Cameron urged “supporters of all parties — and of none — to vote for the Speaker John Bercow”. Similar messages of support are expected from Gordon Brown and Nick Clegg.
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It is testament to the febrile nature of today’s politics that these apparent advantages are now being used as sticks with which to beat Mr Bercow.

Nigel Farage, who stood down as leader of the UK Independence Party to fight the seat, greeted news yesterday of Mr Cameron’s statement by clapping his hands. “Great! It’s just what we wanted,” he declared. “This is an opportunity for the people of Buckingham to stick two fingers up to the whole political class as represented by the Speaker, the figurehead of Parliament.”

Yesterday the UKIP candidate could be found stalking votes for a council by-election next week in Maids Moreton — one of more than 80 villages that make up this rural constituency. He is spending up to four days a week in the seat and has promised to “drink a pint” in every pub that he can find.

On the doorstep Mr Farage seeks to merge UKIP’s old theme on Europe with personal hostility to Mr Bercow, whom he calls “Mr Very-pleased-with-himself”, as well as wider anger over expenses. Ann Moore-Martin, a retired head teacher, told him: “Bercow is good locally but I don’t think I really trust him. He does not really have the stature, or perhaps integrity, of some of those great Speakers.”

Some mentioned Mr Bercow’s own expenses problems. The Speaker has been asked to repay almost £1,000 for an “accidental over-claim” of mortgage interest. He has also voluntarily handed over £6,500 because he avoided capital gains tax when he flipped the designation of his taxpayer-funded second home.

Few were aware of the more serious antics involving UKIP. Tom Wise, a former MEP, who was jailed last year for two years over fraudulent claims of £39,000. Mr Farage said that he had “dealt with that problem ruthlessly”. [THIS IS OF COURSE A COMPLETE LIE AS DEALT WITH EXTENSIVELY ELSEWHERE ON THIS BLOG.
FARAGE TOOK ABSOLUTELY NO MEANINGFUL ACTION AND LET TOM WISE PAY OFF ONE OF HIS PERSONAL DEBTS WITH STOLEN MONEY.
HE NEVER REPAID THIS I UNDERSTAND YET HAS THE TEMERITY TO BERATE BERKOW ON SLEAZE WHILST PAYING HIS WIFE!


WISE QUIT UKIP WHEN HIS MEMBERSHIP RAN OUT IN MARCH 2009 DENNY BLOCKED A DISCIPLINARY TO HELP COVER-UP AND TREVOR COLMAN MEP HELPED OUT BY FAILING IN HIS DUTY HOLDING AN ENQUIRY! – ADDED G.L-W.]

In an interview with The Times Mr Bercow suggested that “we are witnessing the last remaining reels of a particular grisly horror movie” over expenses. He hoped that Parliament would be able to “move on” after voters delivered their verdict later this year.

While his aides dismiss any suggestion that MPs will be moving on without Mr Bercow, other observers believe that it is wrong to take victory for granted.

Mr Bercow insisted that he would be campaigning vigorously. He said: “I will campaign for re-election on the basis of my track record over 13 years as a local MP, my continuing commitment to the Buckingham constituency and my determination to restore faith in Parliament.”

To view the article CLICK HERE

There were 14 comments when I last looked:

Hi,

I wonder if Geoff Howard standing for INDEPENDENT Leave-the-EU Alliance will cost Farage many votes as he is a VERY disillusioned ex UKIP local borough Councillor.

INDEPENDENT Leave-the-EU Alliance seem to know that he has more information on Farage than he might wish.


Farage paying his wife as an MEP and trousering £2M+ as he stated to the Press Association may prove embarrassing to him.


A straight fight between Berkow and Howard? I think not especially with Farage as an also ran! Forced out as leader of UKIP by £3/4M of debts it seems!

Regards,
Greg L-W.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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#848* – UKIP MEP INCREDIBLE GROWTH HORMONE BREAK THROUGH!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/02/2010

#848* – UKIP MEP INCREDIBLE GROWTH HORMONE BREAK THROUGH!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

UKIP MEP Mike NATTRASS HAS AN INCREDIBLE GROWTH HORMONE BREAK THROUGH! PUTTING ON A LATE LIFE GROWTH SPURT HE IS NOW 7ft. 3.1/2inches!

Hi,

this is an incredible breakthrough in growth hormone treatment as only back in June he was only about 5ft. 10.1/2inches and from this photograph with the well known Nikkie Sinclaire who is believed to be about 6ft. 7inches it would seem that Mike has grown almost 17 inches in this growth spurt which is very unusual in a man of his advanced years.

One reason given by those in the know is the very rich life style of MEPs, with as Mike Nattrass’ chum Tom Wise so clearly told us all – have no real work to do and merely sit around in bars and restaurants concentrating on growing their pensions, getting back in next time and making lewd comments and suggestions to young journalists young enough to be their grand daughters!

It is believed the large amount of time spent on extra holidays has helped Nattrass himself dare I say hugely!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

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Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

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#847* – UKIP MEMBERS ON EUkip’s FORUM LIKE FERRETS IN A SACK!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/02/2010

#847* – UKIP MEMBERS ON EUkip’s FORUM LIKE FERRETS IN A SACK!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

UKIP MEMBERS ON EUkip’s FORUM LIKE FERRETS IN A SACK! BEING LED THIS TIME BY DENNY & NUTTALL!

Hi,

as promised I had a look at how Nigel Farage‘s puppet chairman was handling himself on the incest forum which young Arnny moderates, removing anything that does not fit in with the sychophancy required on an incest site like this – not open to fresh air and freedom of speech – nor willing to discuss and convince opponents and let your members test their debating skills and the logic of their arguments – too aware of their ineptitude even on a limited readership it is from time to time harshly monitored and censored to suit the current position of the corrupt leadership.

Well Paul Nuttall’s idiocy has started off a brutal criticism from the mouse that roared! Having recently overturned a corrupt and dishonest decision, which was arguably criminal, by Nigel Farage and Paul Nuttall which was in flagrant abuse of their position and directly challenged Lord Pearson as leader little Denny is feeling quite important!

The correspondence below has maundered on to about 4 pages with Denny starting a new thread as well but I believe you will find this sufficient to get the gist of the fight – doesn’t Nuttall show himself for the idiot he clearly is a strutting self important nebisch. Denny comes across little better!

Just think for a moment Nuttall is an MEP!! and the so called chairman of EUkip’s NEC whilst Denny is a long term spokesperson for EUkip and a member of the NEC who was sacked as Returning Officer for corruption, dishonesty and seeking to corrupt the very election he was in place to supervise but since it was FOR Farage he kept his place on the NEC.

« on: February 05, 2010, 10:53:43 PM »

Reply with quote

When I became Chairman of UKIP, I believed that the members did not have a platform to share ideas and experiences. Therefore, when I appointed Jonathan Arnott as General Secretary, the first job I asked him to do was to set up a ‘member’s forum’. To begin with, it was a revelation. Members communicated, downloaded leaflets and offered constructive proposals as to how to improve the party.

Unfortunately, once the leadership election began, this was no longer the case. Since then, it has been used as a vehicle to criticise the party, undermine the leadership and drive new members away. In the North West, we have lost two candidates in the past two weeks and both have cited the junk they have read on this forum as one of the principle reasons for their resignation.

I pushed for this forum against the advice of the leadership at the time, and I feel that that I am being let down at the moment. They are being proved right and I am being proved wrong.

I will not allow this to continue much longer.

This is not a form of censorship, but I am not prepared to provide a platform for new or active members to be driven away by a bunch of keyboard warriors.

Paul

Paul Nuttall MEP for EUkip and Farage‘s puppet chairman

Paul,

I am amazed you have made this suggestion.

For a start, – now it is up and running – you would be wrong to unilaterally close this forum down without discussion by the communications manager; Damian the website manager, and the NEC.  It is not your personal fiefdom, and now could rightly be said to have ‘stakeholders’ in the rest of the membership who use it.

Having set it up primarily to promote communication within the party – something which has been a dire problem in the past –  and to provide an alternative to the ‘UKIP’ section of the British Democracy Forum,   it would be a grave mistake to consider closing it just because a few members use it as a platform to ‘sound-off’. This really is an admission and  case of shooting the messenger because you don’t like the message.

Consider:

1) Sounding-off here rather than the BDF every now and then is a good thing as it allows steam to be let off here within the confines of a more private members area, without external steam being let off in a more public place like the BDF.

2) I doubt if you have done an audit of the numbers of ‘negative’ posts, Vs. ‘positive’  but I have no doubt the numbers of negatives are small.

3) If you do not have  somewhere to observe the negatives from members – then where are you going to get feedback to know what those negatives are?   It has been a severe problem in the past that the leadership never knew what was seriously concerning the membership across the country, and things got out of hand – Ashford is a good example of that.   This is an excellent platform for feedback within the party and for the ‘leadership’ to observe that feedback.

4) It does allow some interaction and liason between people who enjoy being as you put it ‘keyboard warriors’.
You are utterly failing to understand there are a lot of people who are our members, who actually enjoy the cameraderie of belonging to a group on the internet and exchanging views.

Sometimes those exchanges get a little heated, but provided they don’t get out of hand completely (and that is what a moderator is for – to deal with that) then it is all to the good of social interaction within “our” UKIP group here within the confines of the members area.

And – why not have keyboard warriors?  they can be an asset when they direct their attacks to serious issues.  Censorship is never productive to obtaining the truth.
If there are one or two who are clearly totally disruptive, then they can be identified,  advised to moderate their output or be removed from the members forum. Closing it down entirely because of one or two recalcitrants is just silly.

Further,  if one or two members, as you suggest,  wished  to leave the party because of this forum,  then I simply don’t believe they were committed enough to the primary cause of what UKIP is all about in the first instance!   The obvious answer to that suggestion is if they did not like tone of this forum then all they had to do was leave the forum – NOT the party.  Perhaps more like – they used that as an excuse to leave the party because they  intended to leave anyway for other reasons.

Frankly your suggestion of closing this forum down is Luddite, totally negative and reactionary; I am against it and say so publicly.  If you persist,  I shall insist it be brought  forward as an agenda item at the NEC.

DED.

« Last Edit: Today at 04:35:52 PM by Douglas Denny »

See ‘Disagreements’  Heading     ‘ Time to close this forum down? ‘

I place this here in ‘General Discussion’  because it is rather important to this forum and I don’t want it to be lost in ‘Disagreements’ only.It is regarding Paul Nuttal’s suggestion of closing down this forum.If you agree or disagree with this suggestion,  you may contact him on:-Nuttal. MEP.  Paul. (NEC Chairman)

And give him your thoughts on the matter.
Or,  post to ‘Disagreements’.  Or, both.

DED.

There are acres more but it is clear that Nuttall has lost any respect anyone misguidedly may have had for him. Denny as an NEC member clearly has almost as little idea of how to behave!

This of course is a stupid, ill considered action by EUkip’s inept little Mussolini look alike – having been sent off on holiday to avoid the embarrassment of chairing a meeting to defend his own crass and unprincipled behaviour and that of the treacherous self serving money grabbing Farage supported by the odious elderly creep Christopher Gill where the three of them conspired to mount an attack on Nikkie Sinclaire using public media to wash their own dirty linnen for personal gain at the expense of EUkip.

Nikkie Sinclaire is to be commended that not a single effort on her part to denigrate her attackers on the public media has been made despite their despicable self interested use of the media in abuse of the trust misguidedly placed in them.

It will be noted that Sinclaire meticulously followed the correct discreet procedure, every step of the way. I gather she had intended to resign in October when she first found out how sordid a group Farage  had created to get a chauffeur driven limo, a bigger office and a considerable hike in pay with greater control over the EUkip budget and control over staff – to view details on the pro EU membership Pan EU Political Party EFD group FarageFarage has formed with its Racism, anti Judaism, xenophobic attempts through violence to impose apartheid with racial segregation.

However it became apparent that there was more afoot due to the Court’s Guilty verdict and the fact that Farage‘s dishonesty had incurred a £3/4Million debt for EUkip. Farage was forced, as an unprincipled moral dyslexic, to stand down as leader:

And a Coronation of Lord Pearson was to take place – this left Sinclaire in the position of being unable to resign without disrupting the process, so after trying to persuade Farage to remain and avoid disrupting the party out of her loyalty to UKIP when Batten stood as a contender she opted to throw her hat in the ring in the not very realistic hope of winning and being able to LEAD UKIP out of the sordid EFD Part group. Clearly she had little hope but felt it the best way to serve her party.

Almost as soon as Pearson was elected she arranged a private meeting with him over dinner to discuss her position. We understand from Farage‘s camp (much to his fury) that Pearson had informed him that Sinclaire would be resigning from the EFD Party group and that as leader he had given her an undertaking that her principled decision would not be allowed to cause her any difficulty. Within days and in flagrant abuse of his position Farage mounted a very public and dishonest attack on Sinclaire.

Now we have Nuttall washing HIS dirty linnen on a public forum for the media et al to follow.

Anyone who wants to follow the in house incest forum all they need to do is utilise the membership and password of a chum and just observe without posting OR as some of the media have done, just join EUkip (£20 on your expenses) and not only can you join the forum but you get all the in house ‘stuff’ which can be handy, there are journalists with membership of several parties as they garner stories for the General Election and expenses and the like. I understand the most popular to join are EUkip and The BNP ,which Farage & Croucher and their claque did so much to help get elected last June by deliberately raising their profile, as between them they are an endless saga of crass behaviour if nothing else!

As Pearson said only the other day ‘there are a serious number of stories being gathered ready for the election!’ It is expected they will be dumped on the public during the last month before the election.

EUkip is in a particularly parlous position with no reputable press staff and less ability and the ex Tory James Pryor who so spectacularly failed with IFP in South Africa. At a time when were UKIP to make a breakthrough they would require honest decent respected press officers to build a sound reputation with the media they have only the scrapings and rejects who are despised at best or reveilled  by the meeejia and the serial stupidity of those in EUkip who sneer at the leading journalists or lie to them has done immense harm.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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#846* – Anthony BUTCHER RESORTS TO LIES IN HIS OWN DEFENCE

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 07/02/2010

#846* – Anthony BUTCHER RESORTS TO LIES IN HIS OWN DEFENCE

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Anthony BUTCHER RESORTS TO LIES IN HIS OWN DEFENCE & FINDS HE IS SUPPORTED BY OTHER LIARS – FRIGHTENED OF THE TRUTH!

Hi,

In response to a comment made on my last blog

Matt Davies, not renowned for either his honesty, his loyalty or his smarts said:

when Nuttall strutted onto Butcher’s forum and told a pack of lies and demanded I be silenced because I was publishing the truth and in collusion with the dishonesty the pathetic little dweeb Anthony Butcher jumped straight through the hoop – Kiss my **** Butcher has done just that ever since providing liars and some of the nastyest scum in EUkip with a platform for lies, dishonesty and propaganda with absolutely no principled effort to ensure the truth or facts on the part of Butcher or his staff of moderators

They love you over at nutjob central Anthony.

Anthony Butcher felt it apposite to defend his dishonesty as follows:

Quote Originally Posted by mkpdavies View Post
They love you over at nutjob central Anthony.

Yes. It’s disappointing that he can’t appreciate the irony that he was banned for posting unsubstantiated, probably libellous material. It’s also a shame that he doesn’t realise that such postings do nothing to damage my reputation, only his. He has a huge amount of energy to distribute, but he wastes it on venomous outpourings that contribute nothing positive to the arena and suffocate the genuine nuggets of information that he does reveal.

One only has to look at Richard North’s blog to see what a dedicated campaigner can achieve.

 Indeed Dr. Richard North produces a very competent blog addressing some very real issues but on a targeted basis. An entirely different concept of blogging which I thoroughly endorse for his aims – I read his blog every single day and speak with Richard about 3 to 5 times a week frequently making efforts to use my media contacts to spread the word on his material.

Let us address the dishonesty of Anthony Butcher’s claim – even a brief search of his forum – though I concede I find it very hard to search! Such will produce a dishonest series of postings from Paul Nuttall founded on lies and dishonesty in which he seeks to threaten Butcher – which clearly he achieved. A number of my factual postings have been removed to comply with Nuttall’s dishonest demands.

I was subsequently banned for life!

It is noted that Butcher has permitted Mark Croucher, his alter ego Skeptyk (may I remind you that I have several times published that Skeptyk has ‘claimed’ not to be Croucher – obviously a claim he is not prepared to grant credence to by putting his provable name to) also Douglas Denny, Matt Davies, Bob Feal Martinez and others to lie and defame me.

I posted the FACT that Peter Reeve was being investigated by The Police for assault at a EUkip meeting he was organising.

This was an established FACT however unlike others it was implied that I could not be trusted and it was DEMANDED that I produce proof that I was telling the truth within 24 hours – that I had made many postings over a long period and every single one was, without exception factually accurate seemed to bear no value despite several serial liars making regular dishonest postings!

There was absolutely no reason to doubt the fact that I had provided and further it was perfectly possible for Brendan Padmore who was acting as the errand boy or Anthony Butcher to have picked up the phone to ascertain the details they both knew my number which is also readily available all over the internet!

I did NOT see the request for provenance until about 22:00hrs+ – too late to call.

I was not available the next day until about lunch time with a deadline of about 17:00hrs. – I was unable to obtain the provenance as my contact was at work and I mailed accordingly.

As soon as I was able I obtained the crime number and it was supplied to Butcher’s forum.

Peter Reeve was proven to be under investigation by the police for assault as I had stated A FACT – a crime number was supplied to substantiate the crime, the witnesses to the assault were Peter Cole and a Mr. Croft and I know that witness statements were taken on the matter – that it did not fall into the level of GBH or serious ABH no further action was taken, or so I understand.

My statement as made on Anthony Butcher’s Forum was not only true but was proven to be true – so therefore I was banned for life.

Anthony Butcher has in his posting at 23:54hrs 06-Feb-2010 yet again lied to defend his dishonesty.

It is noted that within 10 minutes the serial liar Douglas Denny comments in support of Anthony Butcher’s dishonesty.

It is unlikely that Anthony Butcher will ever develop the morality or common decency to apologise for his lies, corruption or his dishonest,but as he stated in his posting he puts no value on his reputation – as a liar not a bad position for him to hold. Do also bear in mind that he has irrefutably removed postings of mine from his forum to suit his argument.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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#845* – WILL MUSSOLINI SURVIVE THE WEEK?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/02/2010

#845* – WILL MUSSOLINI SURVIVE THE WEEK?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

WILL MUSSOLINI SURVIVE THE WEEK? HE HAS ALREADY BEEN SAVAGED BY THE HIGH HEELED COCKROACH!

Hi,

I wonder if the imbecilic and utterly dishonest little Douglas Denny posted this on Butchers squalid little forum before or after his savaging of Paul Nuttall on the incestuous members bitch feste forum even with its energetic censorship – I thought Nuttall had made a complete pratt of himself and it was clear that as Farage‘s inept puppet Chairman he had made a particular fool of himself – just ‘cos another couple of PPCs had resigned from EUkip in disgust at how the party behaves and the constant failure of leadership as they stuff their own pockets and in complete betrayal of the principles of UKIP betray each other.

To try to shut down the forum to further stifle the truth would be just so typical of this strutting little jerk! You may remember when Nuttall strutted onto Butcher’s forum and told a pack of lies and demanded I be silenced because I was publishing the truth and in collusion with the dishonesty the pathetic little dweeb Anthony Butcher jumped straight through the hoop – Kiss my Rs Butcher has done just that ever since providing liars and some of the nastiest scum in EUkip with a platform for lies, dishonesty and propaganda with absolutely no principled effort to ensure the truth or facts on the part of Butcher or his staff of moderators.

No wonder members and PPCs are leaving in droves! Just look at the lies of Farage that earned a guilty verdict and a £3/4 Million debt, his lies about Tom Wise, Bannerman’s lies and outright dishonesty and then the fact that Farage was ordered out but is not man enough to go and in a weenie waggling session so disgracefully betrayed his new leader.

Then we have the embarrassment of Farage‘s utterly inept public performances, determined to wash the dirty linnen he created in public, and bring EUkip into the gutter he now resides in with racists, anti Jewish extremists who practice and promote violence and apartheid as a political stance campaigning for colour segregation – so VERY EUkip.

Then in a desparate attempt to clear up the mess Farage and his puppets have created – especially his Mussolini look alike Nuttall Lord Pearson even threatened to resign to force the NEC to act honourably – a course of action they clearly had no understanding of (well look who they are!).

Now we have Mussolini strutting about as if anybody cared what he thought or said – he is just a message carrier for Farage and one of Farage‘s Rs wipes Denny has made that very clear.

I must remember to have a look and see if it has all been ‘sanitised’ by little Arnney – he really should have stuck to doing sums with kids he must have been better at that than the mess he manages these days where he is clearly way out of his intellectual depth.

Here is the nonsense Denny addresses on Butcher’s forum where you will note as his avatar the liar Denny so aptly chooses a mad man:

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Quote Originally Posted by Newkipper View Post
I do not believe the Nigel Farage & co have wanted to get out of the EU for years, it has been too much of a gravy train for the selected few. You cannot get out of the EU by being in it, the only way out is through the British parliamentary system and without anti EU MPs that will never happen.
The original stated reason for UKIP getting into the EU was to get the money from EU to support the fight here in the UK, this was a clever con and still deceives many UKIP members. For years UKIP have not made any serious effort to get into the UK parliament they have just done enough to keep the membership sweet.

Paul Nuttall MEP stated to a UKIP member, that they will only be seriously contesting one seat and will do whatever is necessary to win it, that being the one that Nigel Farage is fighting and that they only expect to get that one seat.
I believe the new leader Lord Malcom Pearson to be bright and honourable man, Nikki Sinclaire MEP to be a good honest caring person, however the
majority of the UKIP leadership are either sheep or on the gravy train.

The membership is falling, there are branch chairman, branch officials and members resigning or not renewing their membership in many parts of the country, there are many calls for Nigel Farage and Paul Nuttall MEP to resign, there is talk of a breakaway UKIP group forming. The whole lot may yet implode. it is all very Sad.

It is reported that that OLAF – the EU’s anti-fraud office – are investigating several UKIP MEPs. The MEPs include Derek Clark, Mike Nattrass and Nigel Farage. EX-MEPs Graham Booth and Jeffrey Titford are also of interest to OLAF.

If UKIP dose implode I suspect UKIP may and like the Phoenix Raise Again from the ashes, with real honest members as officials etc.

There will surely be a witch hunt to kick out the trash, that the bent hierarchy have carefully placed to keep their iron none democratic control of the party.
Maybe Paul Nuttall MEP will also be investigated and end up in the same dustbin.

You never know they may all start a Gutter Rats Party or a union for dishonest MEPs and bent officials, they would fit in there very well, they even get honorary membership!

Personally I can’t wait for this lot to really get going in the press. 

Screams “provocateur’s anti-UKIP propaganda” at you.

Which re-incarnation of an agent provaocateur is this one I wonder? GLW? John West? Niall Warry?

Take your pick – could be any of them.
There will be more emerging like woodworm crawing out as we get nearer the general election – you see ……

Oh well more lies from Denny – but we are all used to his lies and cowardice the heroic key board warrior who seeks out places to lie about me where there is no right of reply and he need not provide ANY evidence for his fanciful dishonesty.

To understand the utter dishonesty of this little creep CLICK HERE

I’m not sure who shelters behind the name Newkipper but he is wise to do so in view of his political inaccuracy – perhaps he would care to send me a confidential ‘e’mail and we could set up an online debate to help him understand. Right I’m off for a shower and will check out the members’ forum later and bring you more of the death throes!

Newkipper: For the record and to give the lie to Douglas Denny’s dishonest implications Newkipper is NOT John West, Niall Warry or myself – Denny is one 100 percent wrong (nothing new there then!) and just for the record the Junius members I have spoken to assure me it is NOT them and they assure me none of those contributing directly is Newkipper. I also doubt it is Dr. Eric Edmond and I’m sure it isn’t Tim. So keep guessing Denny!

It is also worth noting that Newkipper has lifted pieces from Junius verbatim – I presume to try to dupe the gullible into a belief that Junius is the author or to try to link John West as a contributor to Junius – one loses interest quite quickly. The important fact is are people publishing the truth or are they publishing lies and dishonesty like Douglas Denny, Anthony Butcher, Mark Croucher, Brendan Padmore, Paul Nuttall, David Bannerman, Bob Feal Martinez and similar dishonourable individuals without morality or integrity.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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#844* – Feal Martinez SHOWS HOW UNPOPULAR HIS DISHONESTY HAS BECOME

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/02/2010

#844* – Feal Martinez SHOWS HOW UNPOPULAR HIS DISHONESTY HAS BECOME

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Feal Martinez SHOWS HOW UNPOPULAR HIS DISHONESTY HAS BECOME! STILL TOO DISHONOURABLE & TOO COWARDLY TO APOLOGISE!

Hi,

it seems that the vile element of EUkip turns on its own eventually – for there are few more vile than EUkip’s resident village idiot from Swindon with his desperate dishonest and serial lies – rarely able to make a reasoned rebuttal of facts either with informed argument or clear fact Bob Feal Martinez is one of those low lifes who resort to personalised attacks based on lies.

It seems that Bob Feal Martinez has discovered if one is exploited by EUkip to dishonesty and unpleasantness there comes a time when what goes around comes around!

Here is Bob Feal Martinez’s posting on the EUkip official bloggers4ukip site:

Monday, 1 February 2010

My Swan Song

I came into UKIP believing in the ethos of the party. I still do believe that UKIP is the only answer to the 3 main parties. However I am tired of the abuse at a local and National level. That abuse has attacked my family, I have received unacceptable ‘hate’ mail. If this is the cost of wanting a Britain for all then I am not prepared to pay that cost. My family is more important.

“My Swan Song”

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Blogger VotR said…

Farewell.
1 February 2010 21:45
Anonymous 
rockape said…
It is sad that some of those that are knowledgeable enough to oppose the fascism of the EU “reich” can be put off the fight by a little abuse. A little more moral fibre is required if we are to fight the “Evil empire”.
2 February 2010 11:35

Blogger Bob Feal-martinez said…

Given that you have no idea what this abuse was and where it came from you are not qualified to question my courage or moral fibre. I have been fighting for peoples freedom for 30 years, but there comes a time when one becomes disillusioned.
2 February 2010 13:31

Blogger Radio Free Britain said…

We shall miss your stance on the EU.
2 February 2010 13:32
Anonymous Senior said…
Did the abuse you received come from within UKIP? I don’t think the UKIP of today is the UKIP of a few years ago. I believe we should get out of the EU, but we should be able to do that without voting for a party which aligns itself with fascists and homophobes, and punishes members for criticising it for doing so.
2 February 2010 18:52

Blogger Bob Feal-martinez said…

Senior, I’d rather not go into specifics.
2 February 2010 19:46

Blogger Bob Feal-martinez said…

Senior, I’d rather not go into specifics.
2 February 2010 19:47
Blogger pop said…
Bob, Respect for flying the flag for so long – I hope any disillusionment is with details of the process, not the principle. As a recent joiner (having been an on/off member of the conservative party) I hope to keep that flag flying till the job is done.
2 February 2010 21:04
Anonymous A relieved member said…
Bob, My first comment on here. I have nothing but praise for the work you have done in Swindon, In fact we tried to find your pub on our way down to the Bournemouth conference in order to pick your brains. Speaking as I find though, I found many of your posts on BDF and the official forum to be completely OTT. You have a very aggressive style, which lead to a couple? of bans on BDF, and the only ban I have ever seen on the official forum. I am sorry, but UKIP has always been a happy little ship, and your confrontational stance on every subject under the sun has sullied that atmosphere. Always sorry to see a member leave, but I doubt any party or organisation would ever be harmonious if you were a part of it! I, to the best of my knowledge have never spoken to you either in person or online, so please do not treat this as sour grapes, Just my view as an observer. Good luck in the future.
2 February 2010 23:10

Blogger Bob Feal-martinez said…

Interesting that the last poster mentions the BDF. I say interesting because I was banned from the BDF for supporting UKIP. The poster clearly knows little of UKIP as indicated by the comment, ‘happy little ship’. No one could be under any illusions that is was never thus so. If the poster did indeed read BDF he/she would know that all to clearly. The dissent was expressed there long before I joined the party. Indeed one of the main complaints as expressed there was the unfair use and distribution of UKIP funds and ‘resources’. So I guess the post was just another excuse for someone else to have a pop.
3 February 2010 07:48
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4 February 2010 09:44

Blogger The Boiling Frog said…

As a recent member of UKIP, I’m saddened to hear that you’ve had enough. 30 years is a long time, though and you’re right your family must come first. (I’m a Swindon fan and I’ve just realised that I see your pub from the train every home game)
4 February 2010 09:45

Blogger Bob Feal-martinez said…

Yep, it is said when you see the Carpenters, from the train, you know you’re almost home. I take it you use to live in Swindon to be a fan. I don’t think we have many ‘outsiders’ in the ranks of supporters.
5 February 2010 10:11

Blogger Greg L-W. said…

Hi, Bob Feal-martinez said… Interesting that the last poster mentions the BDF. I say interesting because I was banned from the BDF for supporting UKIP. Why lie? everyone knows you were warned and warned for telling lies and went a step too far when you lied about me claiming I was dishonest without any sound examples and that I was an undischarged bankrupt which was a lie as was the implication that I had EVER been bankrupt – when asked to either substantiate your lie or withdraw it and appologise you lacked the morality to do so and were not man enough to admit you had lied. You were banned for 6 months for proven dishonesty. The facts are easily checked – just as is the fact that you serially claim that I do not tell the truth, on any platform you can get away with your dishonesty unchallenged. Please provide an instance where I have EVER lied, or withdraw your lies and be man enough to appologise. I trust Stuart Parr will have the integrity to leave this posting rather than collude in Robert Feal Martinez’s dishonesty. Regards, Greg L-W.

6 February 2010 17:10
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Interesting isn’t it – just how readily and willingly EUkip and its supporters so readily resort to abusing each other and telling lies as Bob Feal Martinez so regularly does – In the image of the master I guess, one need only study the behaviour of Nigel Farage, David Lott, Douglas Denny, Michael McGough, Paul Nuttall, David Bannerman, Mark Croucher, Malcolm Wood and their ilk.

Bob Feal Martinez has not just shown himself to be little more than an ignorant bully but a liar without morality and a coward unwilling to appologise when proven to be wrong.

Bob Feal Martinez one of life’s self proven excrescences all too happy to lie and bully people – a true keyboard warrior! Not man enough to apologise as a liar when yet again proven dishonest and dishonourable! Yet it would seem all too willing to run away when his fellow EUkippers expose him and treat him to his own medicine!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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#843* – Bob FEAL MARTINIZ A COWARD & A LIAR AS PROVEN

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/02/2010

#843* – Bob FEAL MARTINIZ A COWARD & A LIAR AS PROVEN

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

Bob FEAL MARTINIZ A COWARD & A LIAR AS PROVEN!

Hi,

having had our attention drawn to the EUkip official bloggers4ukip we note in support of the dishonesty and cowardice of Shaun Parr and the rather foolish Jill Seymour that Bob Feal Martiniz just can not pass up an opportunity to be a coward and a liar as follows:

“Jill Seymour statement on NEC resignation”

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Blogger Bob Feal-martinez said…

GLW and Co never let the truth get in the way.

5 February 2010 08:53

Blogger Greg L-W. said…

Hi, as a proven liar can you substantiate your dishonesty in any way? Or as a coward do you only post where you do not have to respond with truth and provenance. Have you no self respect or integrity! Regards, Greg L-W.

6 February 2010 01:06

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Many will remember that this unpleasant and ill informed old man was thrown off of even Butcher’s squalid little sight for his cowardly lies and inability ro substantiate them – you will recal he openly and clearly stated, to desparately seem relevant, that I was an undischarged bankrupt which is an outright and total lie.

Not man enough to appologise and clearly unable to support his lies with any shred of evidence he was thrown off the Forum.

The poor old man is quite clearly a coward, a liar and beneath contempt.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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