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#733* – JUST HOW STUPID IS Mike NATTRASS?

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/11/2009

#733* – JUST HOW STUPID IS Mike NATTRASS?

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

JUST HOW STUPID IS Mike NATTRASS?
IS THERE A 5th. AMENDMENT IN TheEU?

Hi,

NATTRASS SEEKS A FACE SAVER for his risible result in the leadership election and beig publiclly humiliated as an uncredible leader! Years liking Farage’s boots and doing what he was told like a sad puppet only to be treated like that on National TV true as it was it was clearly unkind of Farage, in his fear that Sinclaire might actually beat his chosen puppet Pearson.

You may well have read the article here CLICK which covered/contained The Sunday Times announcement that Mike Nattrass was, along with various others, under investigation on various counts by OLAF and of course Daniel Foggo published the story and subsequent facts pertaining to Tom Wise which eventually saw Wise in Prison and showed beyond doubt that Nigel Farage was a liar when he claimed he had removed/fired whatever Wise as soon as they knew – It was Foggo who made it clear that EUkip had colluded in numerous attempts to cover-up the crimes.

The story was not in-accurate – it is conveniently forgotten by the pond life of EUkip that Daniel Foggo is a leading award winning investigative Journalist who has broken some huge stories around the world whilst they merely feed from the public purse in a sordid self enrichment programme. Daniel having exposed the hypocracy of Knapman and then Farage who despite promises to the contarary employed his wife.

Unfortunately part of his next story was sourced elsewhere and although it led to a letter of apology from Farage’s solicitors to The Times the Sunday Times opted to make a payment not on the principle of hypocracy being wrong, but that the new informant had supplied incomplete information and checks with the authorities were then equally as erroneous.

In this instance Michael Nattrass EUkip MEP is being investigated by OLAF.

Amusingly an ‘e’Mailer of long standing with BNP leanings circulated the story:

Andrew Edwards circulated the Sunday Times article with the comment:

Subject: UKIP MEP Michael Nattrass in expenses fraud inquiry:

Looks like Daniel Foggo has uncovered another one of UKIP’s ‘innocent men‘!!!  As Foggo implies, this investigation is part of a wider one, so who will be next.  There will be some other very nervous UKIP MEP’s this morning!

The link to The Sunday Times is: CLICK HERE
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UKIP MEP Michael Nattrass in expenses fraud inquiry

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An MEP for the United Kingdom Independence party is being investigated by the European Union’s anti-fraud watchdog over his use of expenses.
Michael Nattrass, who has represented the West Midlands in the European parliament since 2004, is the subject of an inquiry into whether Denis Brookes, one of his former aides, was paid through public funds while he was working as a regional organiser for UKIP. The EU does not allow taxpayers’ money to be used to pay party officials.
The inquiry into Nattrass, which is part of a wider investigation into UKIP’s finances, comes as one of its former MEPs, Tom Wise, was jailed last week for two years for embezzling funds out of his assistant’s allowance.
Separately, it has also emerged that Nattrass was using a business of which he was an equity partner as the “paying agent” for all his assistants’ salaries provided by the EU.

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Between 2004 and summer this year, all of his assistants’ allowances were channelled through the business account of Nattrass Giles, a chartered surveyors in Birmingham which he founded nearly 30 years ago.
Nattrass was a signatory to the bank account, although he insisted last night that the administration was handled by another partner in the firm who has since died.
MEPs must not act as their own paying agents. The role can only be performed by “third parties”.
New rules brought in since July this year have further tightened the controls and MEPs can now only use accredited people or companies as paying agents.
Nattrass said he had been told by EU officials that he could use his Birmingham company.

He also insisted that Brookes had worked for him in his capacity as an MEP until his employment as an aide came to an end three years ago.

The facts behind this are at CLICK HERE

Quite the idiot Nattrass had someone write a letter for him (it is in intelligible English!) as:

Dear All.


I am pleased to say there is no truth in the Foggo article.

Foggo knows this because we spoke prior to him going to press… but it made no difference…. so much for the facts.

There is no enquiry into paying agents. So there is no “Fraud Enquiry” However>

Nattrass Giles were not Limited. Foggo knows this and the shares stuff is a made up Foggo mythe. He even confirmed he knew it was not limited when I spoke to him!

NG were suggested as paying agent by the EU officials when I filled in the forms in 2004. I declared my connection with NG and it complied with the rules. NG paid very few employees as paying agents and the payroll was overseen by Chartered Accountants. It more than complied with the EU rules, because at that time the Chartered Accountants were not essential

They are asking whether Brookes worked for me or for the Party as RO. This is Brookes again complaining and I have beaten him off many times in court on this already. He worked for me and the fact is obvious as this was my very high profile argument with him when he failed to attend meetings.

Anyway it appears the Times want to stop me in the leadership race.

I like a challenge like this. But it may be time to go for damages against the Sunday Times and Edwards and the inflamed way Edwards reports these things will not impress the court. 

Mike

So lets look at this in some detail:

I am pleased to say there is no truth in the Foggo article. 

 Having read Foggo’s article and having checked the details what wasn’t true – I can see no errors in it so why are you making a fool of yourself Nattrass?
Foggo knows this because we spoke prior to him going to press… but it made no difference…. so much for the facts.
Well having spoken to him you will probably have told him that when you got back from swanning around in the Philippines on a family holiday having had all summer off it seems! As a doughty MEP for EUkip you had received the information that Derek Bennett the fireplace chap and part time Regional Organiser had been questioned by OLAF and I presume that they had tried to clarify Lynn Ashraff’s position too and others. No doubt Nattrass also told Foggo that he had received some of the details  from OLAF regarding the fraud enquiry.

Which fact was it Nattrass didn’t understand exactly?

There is no enquiry into paying agents. So there is no “Fraud Enquiry” However>

I wonder if that was what Nattrass was told or what he would like to portray or even believe.

Nattrass Giles were not Limited. Foggo knows this and the shares stuff is a made up Foggo mythe. 
 Even in the original article there was no mention of Limited!

It has also emerged that Nattrass was using a company of which he was a shareholding partner as the “paying agent” for all his assistants’ salaries provided by the EU.

You will note since it is a standard paper rather than a financial journal it called Nattrass a ‘shareholding partner’ had it been a financial journal it would no doubt have said he had ‘a share in the equity having been a founding partner’.
He even confirmed he knew it was not limited when I spoke to him!
So Foggo was right – glad Nattrass confirmed that!
NG were suggested as paying agent by the EU officials when I filled in the forms in 2004. 
I do doubt that they understood because this clearly is not compliant with the intent of ‘paying agents’. 

I declared my connection with NG and it complied with the rules.

This is just not very plausible – what would be the point of paying agents? The aim is to remove the MEP from control of the money not just to put it into an account with a different name that the MEP controls!

NG paid very few employees as paying agents and the payroll was overseen by Chartered Accountants. It more than complied with the EU rules, because at that time the Chartered Accountants were not essential

 No but the purpose was that Nattrass did NOT have control of his own expenses.

They are asking whether Brookes worked for me or for the Party as RO.

Then why is Nattrass dennying he is being investigated when he is?

This is Brookes again complaining and I have beaten him off many times in court on this already.

Oh so there is an on going investigation!

He worked for me and the fact is obvious as this was my very high profile argument with him when he failed to attend meetings.

In normal parlance this is called a defence!

Anyway it appears the Times want to stop me in the leadership race.

This is delusional – The Sunday Times could care less who wins and clearly Nattrass is nowhere near a runner – he even Miked off on holiday during the campaign. Farage was spot on when he said of Nattrass & Batten they were ‘uncrdible candidates for the leadership!

I like a challenge like this. But it may be time to go for damages against the Sunday Times and Edwards and the inflamed way Edwards reports these things will not impress the court.

If Nattrass is serious he is an even greater idiot than many of us thought him to be!


Before emulating Farage and making an utter pratt of himself in the Courts and risking the same type of debts Farage has incurred I suggest poor old Mike tries to explain what his case against The Sunday Times is as to more than shout rude words and sabre rattle could well do Nattrass a huge financial damage.

Interestingly, much as EUkip might like to control Freedom of Speech just what crime does Nattrass believe Edwards has committed? That would look good as Nattrass would surely loose!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

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#732* – ONE WONDERS WHY STUART WHEELER HAS LIED

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 22/11/2009

#732* – ONE WONDERS WHY STUART WHEELER HAS LIED

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!

ONE WONDERS WHY STUART WHEELER HAS LIED, IS HE A FOOL, DISHONEST or A DUPE?

The millionaire Mr Stuart Wheeler, founder of the financial spread betting company IG Index,  and father of supermodel Jacquetta Wheeler

One has to wonder what it is about EUkip that it attracts scrap dealers and professional gamblers as backers so readily. I can not understand why Stuart Wheeler has shown such a staggeringly foolish lack of understanding of the Electoral Commission case against EUkip – someone has even dishonestly duped the poor old chap that beyond the similarity of the names Bown and Brown there is any meaningful similarity between the EUkip case and that of The Lib.Dims.

For all Stuart Wheeler’s foolish prattle and the outright lies of Nigel Farage the Courts have the measure of the case – hence the GUILTY verdict before the Court after various rounds of cost escalating stupidity by Farage’s Fan Club of Fools, in their chase for personal agrandisement.

Stuart Wheeler has put his name to the following quite foolish and proven inaccurate statement:

Wheeler speaks up for UKIP

Saturday, 21st November 2009

A major donor to the UK  Independence Party has hit out at the Electoral Commission over its decision to push UKIP for the return of a £360,000 donation while allowing the Lib Dems to keep £2.4 million given to them by a criminal now on the run.
Former Tory donor and spread betting millionaire Stuart Wheeler, who donated £100,000 to UKIP before the European elections said today: “I am not a member of UKIP but I do support them and this does not seem right.


“The Electoral Commission has now said it does not intend to take proceedings against the Liberal Democrats for the recovery of gifts totalling about £2.4 million pounds given to them by a company controlled by Michael Brown, a man who was not a permissible donor and who is now on the run, having been sentenced to seven years imprisonment.


“It is clear that the donation came from abroad and was therefore entirely against the spirit of the relevant legislation.


“But the Commission has decided to pursue UKIP for recovery of a donation given by somebody who could easily have made the donation through a permissible company and who would have been a permissible donor but for a purely technical slip which is acknowledged by the court to have been entirely inadvertent.”

Perhaps the poor old chap should have read up on the FACTS rather than listen to the well crafted and misleading claims of the petty crooks and liars running EUkip.

UKIP to forfeit £350,000 in donations after Electoral Commission victory

The UK Independence Party stands to forfeit nearly £350,000 in donations after the Court of Appeal ruled in favour of watchdog body the Electoral Commission.

A long-running legal dispute between the Commission and the party centred on donations in the form of cash and services from retired bookmaker Alan Bown at a time when he was not on the electoral roll.
Three judges ordered the case back to the magistrates’ court for a new decision on forfeiture based on their findings.
Sir Paul Kennedy said: ”In the present case I can detect nothing which would entitle the magistrates’ court not to make the forfeiture order which the EC seeks.”
Mr Bown had been on the electoral register in Thanet, Kent, but was removed by mistake without his knowledge in December 2004.
He did not find out until December 2005 and he was reinstated the following February.
Ukip, which has one MP and 10 MEPs, admitted breaking the law, but said it was due to a clerical error and that to order forfeiture of the entire sum would be disproportionate.
In August 2007, City of Westminster Magistrates’ Court held that although Ukip had not taken ”all reasonable steps” to establish that Mr Bown was on the roll, the error was accidental.
It ruled that Ukip should forfeit only £18,481 of the total but the Commission brought a judicial review of the decision and the High Court ordered a fresh hearing.
That was put on hold when the watchdog referred the case to the Court of Appeal to clarify aspects of the law.
Sir Paul said the law requires a political party to take “all reasonable steps” to verify that a donation is permitted.
One of the rules is that donors must be on the electoral register if they give more than £200. This was enacted primarily to stop foreign donations.
“Parliament having decided that the test of acceptability of a donation from an individual should be whether that individual was registered in an electoral register, it seems to me to be irrelevant whether an impermissible donor is or is not making a foreign donation,” said Sir Paul.
He said magistrates’ courts should “not be seduced” into ignoring the wording of the Act governing donations.
“The fact that Ukip accepted donations from Mr Bown without realising that he was no longer in an electoral register is also, to my mind, immaterial.”
Welcoming the decision, the Electoral Commission said: “The effect of the Court of Appeal’s judgment is that, in all but exceptional circumstances, political parties should give up in full donations accepted from an individual who is not a ‘permissible donor’.”
Peter Wardle, chief executive, commented: “We brought this appeal because the magistrate’s court decision created some uncertainty for political parties about the way the law should be applied. In this case, a party had accepted money that it should not have, but was allowed to keep most of it.
“Political parties need to raise money to campaign, develop policy and communicate with voters. But all parties also need to follow the rules. And these rules need to be clear, simple and easy to follow.
“Parliament decided that political parties should only be able to accept money from individuals if they are on a UK electoral register. This provides a straightforward test of whether they should accept money or not. They simply need to check the electoral register. The United Kingdom Independence Party did not take these simple steps.
“The court agreed that we took the right approach in this case, an approach that was in line with the intentions of Parliament when passing this legislation.”

In February 2007 the commission sought forfeiture of 67 donations totalling £367,697 after a district judge ordered that Ukip should forfeit just £14,481.

Original article CLICK HERE

Clearly Stuart Wheeler has money to burn and a fool and his money are clearly easily parted!

It seems he has not read Andrew Smith’s internal memo setting out to dupe the Electoral Commission:


From: “Smith Epping” To: “Geoffrey Kingscott” Cc: “Nigel Farage (UKIP)” ; “Douglas Denny”


Subject: Treasurers meeting


Thank you Geoffrey for organising the meeting. We need to give the Electoral Commission every reason to believe we are serious about compliance, in order to provide the next Party Treasurer with a good story to tell when we next fail to meet the statutory requirements.


They should be invited to any big regional meeting and to Party Conference to speak at least to a break-out meeting to Treasurers.


It would have been a suitable event for prospective Party Treasurers to learn a lot about what the job entailed. Were any of them there?


I thought the practical points which emerged, in the absence of the Electoral Commission, were a lesson for the NEC on what their priorities should be. The branches are crying out for better admin and they are full of good ideas.


I hope the NEC takes good notice of your report of the meeting.


AS

Surely Farage has a duty not to mislead people when he seeks to ‘aquire’ their money as to fail to do so must be a criminal action in line with obtaining money by false pretences!

Has Stuart Wheeler not realised the very many deliberate decisions made by EUkip which moved their position inexorably from a clerical error that was easily rectified through 67 offences all brought to EUkip’s attention yet they arrogantly ignored the law and in total hubris managed to convert those minor correctable errors into a well earned GUILTY verdict and a debt of £3/4 Million!

Consider the Electoral Commission’s letter:

Ukip’s rulebreaking

SIR – It is not correct for Christopher Booker (October 25) to suggest that Ukip was guilty of only a “trivial breach of electoral law” due to an “oversight” by not checking whether their donor, Alan Bown, was on the electoral register.

The law is clear: political parties must check that a donor is on the electoral register each time they accept a donation over £200. Ukip chose not to do so on 67 separate occasions, over a period of more than a year, and despite repeated warnings from the Electoral Commission.

Ukip took donations it was not entitled to receive, which gave it financial resources it was not entitled to have under the law. Ukip accepted that these donations – which totalled more than £365,000 – were all impermissible. But the magistrates’ court ordered them to forfeit just £18,481.

The Electoral Commission’s view was that this treatment of one party which had not followed the rules was unfair to the majority that do follow the rules and which have previously forfeited impermissible donations. The Court of Appeal shared that view.

Christopher Booker also claimed that the Commission “seems unwilling to take further action” in relation to donations from 5th Avenue Partners to the Liberal Democrats. In fact, we are conducting an ongoing investigation into that issue.

Peter Wardle
Chief Executive
The Electoral Commission
London SW1 

 The list of foolish folk who have swallowed the lies of Farage is long – he may have charm but he is quite clearly a moral dyslexic!

 Stuart Wheeler is only following in the footsteps od the opinionated twit from Newsnight Michael Crick who really did get carried away with his profound discovery that Bown & Brown were similar names! Crick’s stupidity and lazy journalism was sadly copied by Christopher Booker which was indeed sad as it demeaned his otherwise accurate, informative and sound judgement.

EUkip is unarguably Guilty as charged, there is absolutely no doubt and now they are Guilty of duping a generous old man!

I tend to wonder which is the greater crime in moral terms! 
 

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:

LEAVE THE EU
to
GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK

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