Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W)
#625* – LIGHT WEIGHT FILTH FLOATS IN anti UKIP …
Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!
The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership, their anti UKIP claque & the NEC is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
LIGHT WEIGHT FILTH FLOATS IN THE anti UKIP LEADERSHIP CLAQUE OF EUkip!
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A Brief Encounter
I was heartened yesterday to receive a letter from senior and respected members of the UK Independence Party expressing their thoughts, and fears, on the future of the Party. I agreed with them and some of the reasons I stood down as lead candidate in the North West for the Euro elections, and as Regional Organiser, are virtually the same.
Of course the clique in control of the party have tried to blacken my name. They have accused me of using a pseudonym on an internet forum to criticise the Leader. I was not registered on that forum but anyway, big deal, it shows how small-minded the current leadership clique are and how they respond to criticism perceived or real.
They also accused me of using my position as Regional Organiser to gain advantage in the election for the list in the North West. Paul Nuttall, and his little sidekick in Brussels, Michael McManus, lodged a complaint about a letter I supposedly sent to members canvassing their support in the Euro election poll. Of course the letter doesn’t exist as every member in the North West knows. The complaint was withdrawn anyway, but they have still used the imaginary letter to try and blacken my name.
Note that this blog is no longer ‘Gregg Beaman’s Blog’. The reason being that I was tired of receiving unpleasant ‘anonymous’ comments after I stood down. Who was sending the unpleasant ‘anonymous’ comments? Well at least one sender was Rachel Oxley. How do I know? Because I goaded the ‘anonymous’ one and received a text message from Rachel Oxley owning up. How very grown up and mature. Is she the kind of woman who should be Vice Chairman of a national political party?
I then had Lisa Duffy emailing people claiming that I stood down because of a debilitating illness and because I had only expected to come third rather than first. More fibs from a member of the ruling clique.
One of life’s ironies is that it was only in May 2008, at the North West Spring Conference in Morecambe, that Rachel Oxley and Lisa Duffy had complained to me that Annabelle Fuller had spent the Saturday evening texting Nigel Farage, quite suggestively and quite openly, about what she wanted to do with him when he came to the North West the following day. Lacking the courage of their convictions they happily passed it on to me. But later Duffy was terrified that the Party Chairman was upset with her for ‘spilling the beans’ on the Leader. And that was after them specifically asking me to pass on their concerns to the Party Chairman.
But Lisa Duffy was that way inclined. Before the last leadership election she had phoned me in a terrible panic after she had been contacted to consent to Farage’s nomination but had already promised to consent to David Campbell Bannerman’s candidacy. She didn’t understand that democracy worked that way. She clearly lacks the courage of he convictions, if indeed she has any convictions. Don’t fight for what you believe, just stay in with the right people seems to be her philosophy.
A few weeks before I stood down I had been critical of Nigel Farage to Rachel Oxley, describing him as a liability. It may be a coincidence but Rachel Oxley never spoke to me again after that. I only received an email from her informing me that she would no longer speak at a meeting of members that I had organised in Cumbria. Not very professional I thought, but very spiteful. I now see that it typifies the lack of respect for the members that typifies certain people in the current leadership clique.
That is some of the background that added to my increasing disillusionment over the last couple of years and, ultimately, to my decision to walk. But, most importantly, I had come to realise that after having MEPs since 1999 the Party had failed to move our cause forward. In 2008 we still only achieved 2% in the Crewe and Henley by-elections. A quarter of our MEPs elected in 2004 had gone, and I don’t need to go into detail. In my opinion too many of the remaining MEPs have been seduced by the position, especially the current party leader, and they ignore the fact that we have failed to make any impact in Parliamentary elections, which they continually argue will come with the resources gained from having MEPs.
In August I was told that Paul Nuttall was to become Party Chairman. I knew then that I could no longer continue. I had always felt that Paul was only in it for what he could get. The way he grovelled to Farage, even starting to dress like him, had made me cringe and some of us in the North West had even started referring to him as ‘Scouse Farage’.
When the results of the members’ poll were announced I was told that Farage was jumping up and down ranting that I had to be removed from the top of the list, and I heard that from three different sources. I wondered what had happened to the Party that had offered so much hope to so many of us. All my doubts about even standing in the European elections were still there and I was not prepared to stand if all it meant was a good living for five years for no political gain. Their behaviour had convinced me, more than ever, that there is an element in the Party only interested in the ‘gravy train’, their own vanity and little else.
As far as Farage is concerned I knew when I met him, during the Preston by-election in 2000, that he was the personification of vanity and ego with little behind that wafer thin facade. I have seen his childish temper tantrums when he doesn’t get his own way, when I was on the NEC and later when I was on the Elections Committee. I have seen him bully people and have stood up to him when he has tried to bully me. He must be one of the coarsest most vulgar individuals I have ever come across. The proposed changes to the party constitution are a result of the complete lack of principle of the current leader and chairman and, it must be said, the lack of courage shown by certain members on the Party’s NEC.
One thing Farage has excelled at is driving decent, honest people away. There is no room under Farage’s leadership for open debate and discussion, and God forbid there should be any disagreement with him. When people have had enough and go his clique then proceed to try and blacken their names, and others have had much worse smears than I have directed at them. He only wants around him people who are easily flattered and who do not think for themselves.
The current changes to the constitution, if approved, will remove the right of the members to contribute to the party’s future and will certainly remove the right of members to criticise the decisions of the leadership. UKIP will then be no different from the European Union that it was formed to fight.
Finally I remember appearing in a TV debate in 2004 when Labour MEP Arlene McCarthy accused UKIP of lacking the principle of Sinn Fein, who refused to take their seats in a parliament they opposed. I have thought long and hard about that comment since and have to say that Sinn Fein are now power sharing in Ulster. Where are UKIP?
Interestingly when this was published on an open forum immediately articles based not on honest testimony but based on lies and deceit seemingly manipulated and released by Mark Croucher through a web site he seems to control on which he has lied, defamed, abused and threatened – I incline to accept the public published statement of a professional IT specialist and ex EUkip NEC member.
Quoted as source was not The Common Man(*1), perceived as Croucher, a blog set up seemingly to lie about those who were devoted UKIP supporters in order to try to discredit them for the anti UKIP claque he was not quoted directly as he has been proven to be engaged in attempts to extort money by abuse of the Courts to help fund his criminal associates the pro EU extremist Searchlight. But by another serial disembler ‘All About UKIP’ another blog that whether by design or stupidity has done much to help the anti UKIP claque by falling for ALL their propaganda and spin and playing completely into the hands of EUkip’s utterly corrupt leadership, with their lies, dishonesty and self serving damage done to these United Kingdoms.
Not surprisingly the diversionary dishonesty from ‘The Common Man’ and there are few more common than the serial liar Mark Croucher at whose door can be laid some of the worste dishonesties and lies that have so damaged UKIP – anti UKIP campaigners like Croucher and Fuller, McGough, Smith and so many other dissemblers and self seekers may well have destroyed UKIP in their greed.
I do believe that Farage’s damage, so clearly predicted, was not in fact as vile as the anti UKIP parasites of EUkip, many sheltering in shame behind pretentious pseudonyms. Farage is a performer, a show off and an abject failure as a leader – I just do not believe he had the basic ability to to devise the plots of his parasites as he was far too busy considering his image and his income!
It has been the scum that gathered around Farage in the hope that they might gain from betrayal of UKIP who have done the real damage and if there is so much as a scent of them after the new leader is in place then there is clearly no future for the party.
Under no circumstances should the enemy within be tollerated and the EUkip anti UKIP leadership claque MUST be removed for the sake of the future of these United Kingdoms.
With regard to Gregg Beaman’s blog/account which was the starting point of this letter perhaps if anyone can identify an inaccuracy of substance they might be so good as to advise me accordingly as I for one believe it in its entirety as every fact has been substantiated it would seem and is in accord with the other factual sources I have.
I believe Gregg Beaman’s summary over that of the anti UKIP claque of self seekers and those seeking self enrichment – not to mention it is a known fact that Paul Nuttall is a liar and a cheat not just a puppet and Croucher again and again lives down to expectation in his efforts to destroy UKIP for his personal gain..
YOU as the reader must consider the evidence and act with integrity and help to clean up EUkip.
(*1). See: CLICK HERE
where Anthony Butcher, a supporter of the corruption in EUkip as shown by his having banned members of his forum based upon lies and seeking to uphold denial of freedom of speech – thus rendering his forum a form of entertainment rather than serious comment . However in the reference given he states unequivocally:
“Just to clarify, the Common Man is Mark Croucher and Rosie is in fact Gregg Beaman’s wife.”
I incline to believe him in that he is usually cautious to a fault, since his occupation is I understand computer IT sourcing ISPS and tracing information seems integral to the job.
TO LEAVE THE EU
What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.
Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.
The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!
To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we thus leave our children and the future, with shame!
Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62
PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!
I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.
Write Upon Your Ballot Paper at EVERY election:
LEAVE THE EU
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Updated 23:40hrs. 16-Sep-2009
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#624* – COMMENTS, COMMENTS on COMMENTS & ….
Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 16/09/2009
#624* – COMMENTS, COMMENTS on COMMENTS & ….
Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!
The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership,
their anti UKIP claque & NEC
is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!
COMMENTS, COMMENTS on COMMENTS & SOME COMMENTS!
Hi,
this comment below was published on the 14th. prior to the announcement by Lord Pearson’s announcement that he intended to stand for the leadershhip BUT ONLY on the terms I have outlined in my blogs, or very similar to see them CLICK HERE And CLICK HERE
It is absolutely essential that Lord Pearson, or who ever does put their name forward, makes it very clear that they will distance themselves from the anti UKIP claque who are currently in control of the party and show they have the strength and authority, track record and support to clean up the party, with absolutely no amnesties for the offences of the incumbents.
You will have noticed the humility and gratitude, praise and appreciation Farage has when you watch the final video clip of his self congratulatory even addulatory speech and his condescending list of jobs he MIGHT let a new leader perform.Farage has RESIGNED as leader to suit his personal ambitions now let us hope the Party can and does get a leader who TELLS Farage what he will and will not do and the very first thing the new leader MUST do is put EUkip’s gaggle of MEPs under the control of a strong deputy or do the job as leader (not advised).
We all appreciate from watching the utter c*ck up Farage made of the job that, as I predicted a dozen years ago, he hasn’t the vaguest clue about leadership, has no Officer Qualities and has emasculated every good RSM or Colour Sargeant there might have been. Farage has been a total failure as a leader doing nothing and achieving less towards making EUkip electable on merit.
Farage has surrounded himself with the corrupt and the compromised as Paid Praise Singers who are no more than a castrati’s choir.
IF the Party lacks the integrity and courage to carry out this basic clean up duty it is better to call in the police and all other relevant authorities, to have a forensic analysis of EUkip and its anti UKIP finances and leadership and do it now.
Fortunately Lord Pearson although older than many of us would have liked to see can by acting decisively to save the Party POSSIBLY hand it on in two or three years to a younger, more political and more energetic new leader untrammelled by the gross apparent corruption over several years.
IF Pearson transpires to be no more than a sucker for Farage’s footwork then may they dance on air together!
COMMENT:
Greg L-W. said…
Hi,
welcome to the pro UKIP supporters club – for several years the anti UKIP self seekers and parasites of the EUkip claque, for accuracy consult both a dictionary and wiki – was Madame de Fage an ancestor of Farage – probably not but EUkip has degenerated under his incompetent leadership such that there isn’t a single solitary member of probity, integrity, competence or gravitas so much as on the horizon in EUkip and the anti UKIP claque.
It does look very much after the catastrophy of the last 5 years EUkip has no viable future even in their own interests let alone as EUroSceptics – they have clearly not got a single solitary honest decent MEP as NOT ONE has spoken out against the anti UKIP behaviour of the leadership claque.
After 70 man years of EUkip MEPs ducking and diving OLAF and the law – NOT ONE MEP from UKIP was elected on merit in 2009.
Each and every MEP fielded failed to turn the tide of being elected as a protest against Westminster – hardly surprising just consider this anti UKIP claque.
Unfortunately even Del could achieve nothing as he lacked the basics of leadership skill and the fundamental fact that no thinking individual would vote for ‘a pig in a poke’ and not ureasonably Del seemed to have something to hide and refused to provide a CV.
Is Del a time served killer? Did he run a drug protection racket? Has he an unacceptable record or has he never had a proper job – you are right we do not know.
It is just as unfair that unless Nikki answers certain basic problems and learns to control her anger, her voice and her presentation she too will not become leader.
It may not be fair but IT IS!!
& Farage has removed every single competent potential leader – he has completely hollowed out the party filling it with nebishes, puppets, boot likers and little people who would not challenge him and were for sale and or owned.
There has been no gutter too vile for the likes of Bob Feel Martinis, Douglas Denny, Mark Croucher, Gawain Towler, Bannerman, McGough, Smith, Clarke, Curtis, Fuller and their ilk would not bathe in for gain!
Good luck UKIP but I fear it will take a miracle to remove the anti UKIP claque who have seized the leadership as EUkip.
I am happy to debate these facts on any fair & balanced platform that I can attend.
Sadly UKIP needs a miracle and the last miracle worker was about 2000 years ago I am told!
Regards,
Greg L-W.
14 September 2009 01:38
To view the original posting made on Junius or CLICK HERE
Or alternatively Dr. Edmond’s view on the issue which can be found at CLICK HERE
You can possibly see why the anti UKIP claque of EUkip were so determined to silence this Blog at all costs whether lies, bullying, corruption or outright dishonesty as we have at least pulled the FACTS together – YOU may not like the way I write nor the message I bring but you can, to the very best of my ability count on the truth provided.
I posted the ‘comment’ from Junius above and draw your attention to the articles and comments on both Junius & Dr. Edmond’s blog to broaden the scope of your uptake of Fact – I do not automatically agree with the deductions these other two blogs may come to but they do seem to try their best at accuracy and to the best of my knowledge EUkip and their anti UKIP claque have been unable to identify an error of fact on any of our 3 Blogs which carry more factual information, which is seemingly better informed than EUkip and the anti UKIP claque’s web site at UKIP.org
It is clear why EUkip and those who have betrayed UKIP were so keen to try to control the dissent of the few remaining UKIP loyalists and to provide a zone for the incestuous pastime of avoiding the electorate who might challenge the cosy relationship.
The content of the EUkip members only forum was so dire I stopped reading it on a regular basis and only dip in very occasionally.
After I had written the blogs on the leadership, and you will note I didn’t bother with one on the wee laddy from Southampton Poly., to whom my only advice is to ensure he has the funding in place or he will find funding his first 5-10 years as a barrister exceeding slim even with ‘put my name forward with concepts largely from The Conservative web site in default of any experience to contest the leadership of EUkip’; I don’t think such an entry will impress any Chambers half as much as getting a shave, acting in a more mature fashion and improving your grades.
I also looked briefly at what was UKIP Forum, which I tend to do less and less but I note the ongoing efforts to denigrate UKIP supporters and activists like Niall Warry, Junius, Dr. Edmond and others – one has to wonder just how many of the dissemblers have ever had authority in their lives, have they never criticised their children because they cared or did they just stand by and watch them being subborned by dealers and petty crooks until their lives were destroyed?
I am astonished at the courage of some of the keyboard warriors who so clearly fear debate and the truth that they shelter in shame behind anonimity – I put it to you that no one of honour would be willing to shelter in lies behind anonimity.
If you have something to say say it honourably and put your name to it, if you will not put your name to your lies they are worthless prattle.
I appreciate EUkip and their anti UKIP claque have no shortage of dishonerable men who set no store by integrity but they are largely known and shown to be serial liars and cheats, low lifes and self seekers the ilk of Bannermann, MgGough, Smith, Malcolm Wood, Denny, Croucher, Feel Martinis and their ilk of no merit even as parasites in the anti UKIP claque in the long run as they suck it dry for personal gain.
I note that all the people who claim not to read this blog on Butcher’s little forum do seem to quote me quite accurately and have no shortage of opinion to offer about a blog they claim to never read! Yeah!
There seem to be a number of questions coming up on the forums – this being MY Blog I have turned on Comments but will only publish those that are posted using a proper grown up identity that is identifiable and asking or commenting in a manner, which in my opinion is honest and of common interest.
IF you have a valid reason for using a nom de plume as does Junius commence your post with your proper name and contact land line phone number and the reason you believe the interests of UKIP and our Country are best served by your anonimity and I WILL respect your confidence.
I am happy to answer such questions as I can whether factual or my reasoned opinion.
I hope this helps to clarify.
TO LEAVE THE EU
What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.
Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.
The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!
To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!
Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62
PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!
I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.
Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:
LEAVE THE EU
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