#564* – EVEN EUkip MEMBERS WILL BE RELIEVED!
Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!
The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!
EVEN EUkip MEMBERS WILL BE RELIEVED!!
Hi,
I was interested to read Junius’ Blog
Saturday, 11 July 2009
UKIP: Clive Page should start to pack his bags!
I must say that Monday’s UKIP NEC meeting was very poorly attended.
Farage was his usual arrogant self.
He wasted no time in voicing his anger that Nikki Sinclaire – UKIP’s new MEP for the West Midlands – was voicing concerns about UKIP’s new grouping in Brussels. Farage made it clear that she could leave UKIP if she did not like it. He also said that Mike Nattrass could join her if he continued to support Sinclaire on this issue.
It also seems likely that Clive Page’s contract will not be renewed as Farage has two of his old colleagues and sycophants – Mark Croucher and Annabelle Fuller – ready to take his place in the Press Office.
As Clive Page has been out of favour for several months – he had been very unhappy working with Fuller and did not approve of her posting John West’s video on YouTube – it will hardly come as a surprise to him.
But don’t expect to read this in the sanitised minutes published on the UKIP fan site also known as the UKIP Forum.
UKIP’s NEC minutes contain more fiction than the latest issue of the Sunday Sport!
Remember the NEC meeting held last year? Buster Mottram was invited by Nigel Farage to give a presentation on the possibilities of UKIP forming a pact with the BNP.
But you won’t read that in the ‘official’ minutes for that particular meeting!
Farage later claimed that the offer of a BNP pact was a total surprise to him and proceeded to use it as an excuse to remove his various critics from the NEC!
Greg Lance-Watkins has quite rightly referred to it as Farage’s ‘Reichstag fire moment’.
Still think that UKIP is worth a SINGLE vote?
Posted by Junius at 16:34
To read the original article CLICK HERE
There has been a fair amount of chatter since the last NEC meeting about how few turned up and how Farage was acting the fool in a self important dictatorial manner – but considerring the calibre of the others present he had little competition!
It was something of an open secret that as a result of comments made by Farage Clive Page’s tenure of office was more than somewhat limited – it IS fair to say that Clive is in the employ of the MEPs in one way or another and NOT the NEC so they could not fire him but when one looks at the NEC one realises they have absolutely no say or authority over ANYTHING of consequence and rather less say – they are merely there as the bankers of last resort – ie. They are personally responsible for the party’s debts – hence the majority are what is te chnically called ‘men of straw’.
Yes true The NEC could not fire Clive – hence he did not know of the comments but perhaps Junius having published the facts (which you will note were on my blog earlier this week as Clive can ascertain) – perhaps to try and prove Junius wrong they may even retain Clive for a period at the MEPs meetings on Tuesday.
Let us see. It is I believe a reasonable deduction, though deduction it is, on Junius’ part, that Clive would likely be replaced by Croucher & Fuller as ever since Croucher’s failure as a publican he has been hovering around EUkip like a dog around a bitch on heat, telling such lies as they may have wished him to and puffing up his importance – presumably to try to obtain gainful employ or at least crumbs from the table of the enriched of EUkip. As for Fuller that particular individual would seem to have been omni present in one guise or another, whether teling lies to the press during last EUkip confernce, embarrassing Farage such that he lied also or bringing EUkip into disrepute with her utterly untrustworthy behaviour in data handling where the lies were so implausible as to cause John Wittaker to walk away in disgust – though he was no above lies in his departure!
That Farage made it known that he was supporting the ‘faggot burners and hunters’ of the extreme and vile paties of the EU is no secret as was the fact that he had left Nikki Sinclaire, who is honest enough to admit to her homosexuallity (unlike some others in EUkip’s heirarchy!), in a position of some difficulty – one wonders where Gawain Towler with his boasts of serial perversions will be left standing with Farage’s new best friends and prostitution of principle.
Should Nikki have the integrity to refuse to reach an accomodation with these vile people I for one will be surprised and disapointed as I had believed her of higher principles – and clearly farage is too inadequate and insecure a little man to reject association with these filth if he can make some personal capital and sttus on ‘the deal’.
I believe that stupid as he is nattrass is fundamentally decent and would have the moral fibre to stand by Nikki on principle WHEN she rejects the Group – though I can see no other MEP in EUkip with a whit of integrity.
I believe Junius was accurate in his summary but I feel that the formal offers will come after Tuesday and his high prominence in posting the facts and his deductions thereafter may give cause for change!
I do note there will be many sighs of relief amongst genuine and decent members of UKIP in that Mark croucher has rushed onto the Forum with the following statement:
I can’t speak for Annabelle, the NEC or Clive, but I can assure you that as far as my ‘involvement’ is concerned the story is not true. Perhaps C_steam could amend the story to that effect. Just more ******** now Junius has no source.
To view Croucher’s utterance CLICK HERE
This will I am sure be a relief to decent folk – I take it from his adamancy he is NOT using weasle words, as he so often does, and his statement is an assurance that he will NOT be in employ as a result of EUkip – thus he is NOT we must hope claiming he will not be EUkip Press or similar when he has duplicitously contrived a different title with a different employer semantically – it is the sort of dishonesty we have all come to expect from EUkip.
Let us hope.
I note he is still desparately trying to score points – it was openly stated on this blog and as I recall Junius’ blog also – after the breakup of the last EU pretend parliament there was a notable change in the demography of sourcing information. The information coming into Junius and myself has clearly altered since many of the staff had dispersed to become involved in the election.
Croucher in a bid to raise his profile afterr yet more failures invented a raft of drivel about computers and hacking etc. none of which seems to have made much sense and as for his attempt to besmirch and befoul the reputation of Piers Merchant based largely on a pack of lies one can understand why he is seeking to absolve himself. Yes there is no doubt he was aware Piers Merchant was far from well but to be fair he could not have realised Piers was terminally ill.
Let us get one thing VERY straight – when I announced Piers’ dire position I did make a clear effort to ensure decent folk KNEW he had had no part, that any of Junius structure OR myself were aware of that he had leaked a single solitary thing.
I may well be wrong and am only working on Croucher and Denny’s serial dishonesty and corruption, but it is my belief that the entire raft of drivel from Croucher and Denny is totally dishonest and inaccurate – to give them the benefit of the doubt we may find their comic book fantasies and Spy vs Spy knowledge from Mad magazine and Alfred E. Newman may possibly have led them on in their fantasies – Clearly to all but the blind and the mallicious, be it for self aggrandisement or to try to seem clever, Piers Merchant was not nor is he Junius nor was he supplying information to Junius or I.
I would so attest in any Court of Law
Consider some of the facts as shown by Barboo (Barbara Booker):
So by revealing what you now admit was nothing more than a possibility that Piers Merchant might be Junius in a thread which you entitled ‘Junius unmasked’, you were deliberately smearing Piers with an allegation for which you had no proof.
Added to which, having discovered that Piers could have been receiving blind copies of emails sent to the gensec@ukip.org address, you lied about the speed with which information contained in such emails appeared on Junius’s blog, in an attempt to implicate Piers as the source of the leaks.
You stated at Junius unmasked that:
1) you were asked on 14 April to carry out an investigation concerning a UKIP candidate, and within 24 hours of a relevant letter from Dave Challis being emailed to you it appeared on the Junius blog.
This is untrue. Dave Challis’s letter, written to Paul Nuttall on 9 April and presumably copied to general secretary Jonathan Arnott at the same time, did not appear on Junius’s blog until 21 April, ie. between five and seven days after being copied to you, and twelve days after it was originally sent.
2) having agreed with Paul Nuttall that you should investigate the source of the leak of the Challis letter (bearing in mind that at this date there was nothing to suggest that a leak had occurred at all), you say that on 16 April you emailed Jonathan Arnott false information regarding yourself replacing Ralph Atkinson on the London MEP list, and that again within 24 hours this false information appeared on the internet. In post #40 of ‘Junius unmasked’ you qualify this by saying the first mention of this false rumour was on Junius’s blog, from which you quote: “The big question is, with Fat Boy Dim out of the way . . . . is Farage preparing to parachute his old mucker from the pub into the soon to be vacant slot?”
Again, you lie. Junius’s suggestion that you might replace Ralph Atkinson, together with his Fat Boy Dim comment, was not blogged within 24 hours of 16 April; nor was it blogged separately and subsequently to his posting of the Challis letter as stated by you. The letter, the rumour and the Fat Boy Dim remark were all blogged by Junius on 21 April, with the rumour referred to again on 27 April – Junius on UKIP: April 2009
Why did you find it necessary to lie ?
To view her comment in context CLICK HERE
There is little or no doubt that Mark Croucher and Douglas Denny lied – whether just for gain wittingly or out of stupidity unwittingly we shall probably never know.
I did feel it was morally my responsibility to do what I could to clear Piers Merchant’s name in totality when I announced his illness – an announcement I made with some reluctance as I was bound to offend someone, but having heard the FACTS from Helen I felt it incumbent on me to provide the facts such that I knew when I received 3 separate contacts informing me about his illness and only one was approximately correct.
I was astonished at the time at the vile reactions of Bob Feel Martinis, Kevin Mahoney (aka stathan I am given to understand), Douglas Denny, Mark Croucher and McGough who saw fit to try to seem clever on a thread which I thought C-Stream had set up to handle the announcement and probably condolences. On reflection how naiive of me! They always were revolting why would I expect them to act otherwise just because a loyal supporter of UKIP who when fit had worked very hard for the EUroSceptic movement, had organised elections, given legal advice, consultancy to the NEC and acted as CEO for a period was in extremis.
I was interested to note that I had NOT published the vile comments of Feel Martinis yet CStream and Aardvaark saw fit to expose him for the vile little excrecence he actually is, by pandering to his self serving ego in such a disgusting manner.
These people are not only unfit for any office they are clearly unfit to represent ANYONE and almost their every utterance brings shame on EUkip.
We can but hope that neither Helen nor her children become aware of just how vile some of you have been – from what I know of Piers Merchant he would have merely laughed in realisation that your vile stupidity is hardly your fault, it comes so naturally.
I did find the comment of the BNP member Blazing Star of note and thank him for his sensative comment regarding Piers Merchant when it is far from likely that he knew him any better than I.
An interestinc comment from UKip Watch:
Junius has Mark Croucher rattled at any rate. For those of you who don’t know who Mark Croucher is, suffice to say he was previously press officer for Ukip and is now a publican. Let’s hope for the sake of his customers that he is better at pulling pints than he is at getting press coverage at which he was a total disaster.
UKIPwatch http://www.ukipwatch.org info@ukipwatch.org
Just to bring UKip watch up to date – unfortunately Croucher was no better at running a pub and we understand that he failed at that too and had to hand the keys back. I say unfortunately because his serial failures make him more and more desparate and ever more bitter and unpleasant.
His involvement with extremist vile fascist style politics is still active and he was recently boasting of his aim to manipulate the British Courts to provide funding for the pro EU crooks and bullies at Searchlight – whom he has in the past supplied information to regarding EUkip members which he was TRUSTED with.
One disadvantage of this odious and dishonest little failure having failed yet again – though I am sure he will find someone else to blame – is that he is back befouling the water around EUkip. His lies and dishonesty for his own aggrandisement about Piers Merchant were even more revolting in hind sight than at the time!
I tripped over an interesting Blog on the internet but have no idea of its authors however it reads:
UKIP – even worse than the rest of them
Ironic is an over-used word but there can surely be no other way of describing UKIP’s sudden surge in the opinion polls. A party with an abysmal record of freeloading, expense fiddles and fraud appears to have become the unlikely beneficiary of public anger over MPs’ freeloading, expense fiddles and fraud.
As Mike Smithson says:
UKIP expenses scandals This hasn’t been much looked at by the media yet but UKIP’s record on expenses is appalling even when compared with what’s currently going on at Westminster. One UKIP MEP was imprisoned in 2007 for falsely claiming £65,000 in welfare benefits while last month another was charged with false accounting and money laundering over allegations that he misused nearly £40,000 in expenses.
Thus criminal proceedings have been taken against one sixth of the entire party contingent who were elected five years ago. UKIP cannot say a thing about the dominant political issue of the
To read the rest of this article & other political comments on the same blog CLICK HERE and make your own mind up.
All that said – I repeat: My thoughts are with Helen and their children and that Piers can enjoy some moments of calm and reflection with the odd bon mote and comment of wisdom that have been his stock in trade, with his family around him, pain free and with dignity – Good luck, we are ALL following!
TO LEAVE THE EU
What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.
Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.
The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!
To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!
Regards,
Greg L-W.
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I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.
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