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#388* – & A EUkip MEP & SOLICITOR RAN THIS !!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 17/03/2009


#388* – & A EUkip MEP & SOLICITOR RAN THIS !!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

& A EUkip MEP Jeffrey TITFORD & SOLICITOR ON THE NEC Ma ZUCHERMEN RAN THIS!!!

Hi,

I shall deal with these items as I have listed them – they are somewhat random but then again one could hardly accuse the two miscreants – Titford & Ma Zucherman of being organised in their ‘fabrication’ of this utterly dishonest bullying of a member to intimidate them as a witness.

Ma Zucherman & Jeffrey Titford should be brought before a EUkip Disciplinary Hearing for having brought the party into disrepute.

The Party having dishonourably discharged them should pass the details to The police, OLAF & their respective alleged professional bodies which they have clearly brought into disrepute.

I have left the key item until last where it shows that they are colluding with the media – whether through their duplicity in their own right or possibly through some scum organisation such as The Masons or Common Purpose, set up to manipulate Justice and act against non members for the personal gain of members.

You can render the letters of provenance of the duplicity of EUkip’s corrupt executive by double clicking – you can also print it off if you wish to take it to the Police or to Standards in Public Life or The relevant Ombudsman or The Electoral Commission.

I submit that it is fast becoming the duty of The Police or ElCom. to put a Writ of Mandamus on EUkip to prevent these corrupt people standing for election in the EU elections in June.

They have instigated a dishonest selection/election process to list the MEP candidates THEY WANTED – yet they have taken £250 > £1,000 off of candidates under false pretences.

This is SUPPOSED to be a Political Party NOT a membership PONZI SCHEME!

Clearly many of the documents are dishonest, invalid and trumped up. In fact one wonders what they claim is ‘evidence’!

There is no shortage of evidence that members of EUkip’s leaqdership have lied, distorted & invented evidence and colluded in bearing false witness against john West who has had, I would submit, rather more courage than they had hoped.

In having watched this criminal behaviour by EUkip on numerous counts I am truely impressed by the courage of John west and those who have supported him in this period when he has been disgracefully lied about, the senior members of the party who I have named and shown with evidence time and again have acted disgracefully in a manner that has brought EUkip into disrepute.

What exactly is this so called ‘Complaint Panel’? Is it like the ‘Political Committee’ which we have been assured is merely Nigel Farage acting on his own without any minutes as a ‘Solo Dictatorship’? As was made VERY clear by his puppet Paul Nuttall the unelected Chairman Farage put in place – who clearly made the details known at The Ugley meeting where he was sent to try to address the anger of members at the dishonesty of the leadership.

The full minutes taken verbatim are posted on this blog – happy hunting 😉

Yes but no one has explained what these rules are these days! Nor have they shown that the disciplinary panel was called in accord with the rules of the party, whatever they are this week! Soince it seems various members of the party are permitted to invent or alter the rules as they wish on an arbitrary basis.

Let us deal with the facts paragraph by paragraph – rather than the lies in Titford’s letter to his cronie Ma Zucherman!
Clearly this is untrue and a lie – the complaints made by West were founded on fact and merely a matter of his carrying out his duty to report what was a crime brought to his attention – that the Party Officers failed to deal with the matter internally resulted in West involving the Police.

Is it the suggestion of Titford & The Party that West should collude in an alleged crime – just as EUkip’s MEPs and NEC when they colluded in the matters that have resulted in Tom Wise currently being under arrest and on Bail?


It is good to know there is someone left in EUkip who has the integrity to speak out against the dishonesty and criminality of the leadership.

Many will have read EUkip’s own Official Report by their own appointed Returning Officer which can be read in full at posting #170* on this blog.

Mr. West should be held up as a beacon of good behaviour by EUkip and it is to EUkip’s eternal shame that they see fit to persecute, defame and bully an honest man to protect the clearly and irrefutably corrupt Titford and his cronies the oleagenous Gulleford and other liars and low lifes that form EUkip’s leadership team.

I take it now that Titford’s dishonesty has been exposed and proven he will resign from the party issuing an unequivocal apology for having clearly deliberately lied about John West for his own personal gain.

We note that the oleagenous Gulleford has not only drawn up all the paperwork for Titfor, lies and all, but is granted dispensation to sit in on the Kangaroo Court – to present the case for Titford.

Be minded that Gulleford has a personal vested interest in this case as West has been informed by the Officers of OLAF that should OLAF procede with their case West will be called as a witness.

This is a staggering fabrication of lies and contains not a single solitary fact damaging to John West.

This is the most damning letter I have seen against Titford in this matter – Jeffrey Titford is a liar, and has put his signature to a tissue of lies compiled for his personal gain and designed to damage if not destroy an innocent and honourable man.

1. Item one is a statement of fact in that the media published the facts they had obtained – in the main from myself, since I have friends on The News of The World and have been involved in various stories on various topics over a number of years with The News of The World and other National Media.

I also spoke to Graham Dines of The East Anglian Press as with other papers, regarding this matter.

Item two – The distribution list was as I recal the NEC and other executives of EUkip – it was one of these copies that was mailed to me via a recipient and it was I who was responsible for its publication on what was UKIP Forum until in an attempt by EUkip to suppress the truth about their incompetence and dishonesty they forced Anthony Butcher to change the forum’s name.
Item 3 – what provenance can Titford show that West made public this material – I submit absolutely none as it was I who spoke out. I contacted West to tell him I intended to publish the material and he asked me not to. I stated that I felt the material had been supplied to me as I was known to be honest and accurate and would act in the best interests of The Party and the British peoples.

I presumed to advise John West to decline to comment to the media but if contacted by them to answer truthfully but to volunteer no information on the graounds that the matter was under investigation by OLAF & The Police.

I also advised him NOT to clarify the details as that was upto the Police or OLAF. I reminded West that he had taken every opportunity to deal with the matter internally and the matter had commenced LONG befor the selection/election process for MEP candidates.

Clearly there was absolutely no element of using the facts reported as brought to West’s attention, also the written threats delivered by hand by Gulleford to try to silence the witnesses, were not made clear at that stage and it was much later I published these facts – which were reported to the Police on my advice.

As for the disengenuous claim that the details were unknown to Titford and his co conspiritors it shown to be untrue by the fact that Titford lied and lied deliberately when he stated there ‘allegationS‘ were unfounded and there was no enquiry – further a letter from the Police was misrepresented as pertaining to all the various allegations.

‘Sinister Sounding’ is surely the correct nomenclature for ‘financial irregularities’ of which I understand there are various under investigation. Which part of this truth is in some way cullpable in terms of your grubby attack on West?

That Titford does not know which offences he is being investigated for must be interesting – howmany offences is he aware of? Perhaps he should resign EUkip and as an MEP and make a clean breast of it explaining all his offences!

The dishonesty of Titford and his co-conspiritors is perpetuated with his lie ‘where west is undeniably culpable….’ and then goes on to lie in outline and in detail.

West DID NOT approach the media – I did. As West has repeatedly stated the media approached him – this is a fact, as I provided his contact data to the media. West’s name was also on what was UKIP Forum, which the media read.

That Clive Page is called as some sort of witness is no more than an embarrassment for EUkip as he is obviously not a valid witness on at least 2 counts – he is in the employ of EUkip and thus would do what he is told to keep his job – this is not an individual of integrity as you well know – he is a convicted liar and cheat with convictions for Benefit Fraud. Hardly credible!

Without exception the evidence claimed to be ‘against’ West is clearly false witness and incredibly damaging to Titford, Gulleford, Zucherman, Clive Page, the eexecutive, leadership AND leader of EUkip who have not just a debt of honour to John West for their shamefull lies and dishonest behaviour but also material liability for the material damage deliberately done to him in a manner which must be seen to be generously compensated as it has so clearly brought EUkip into disrepute.

The trumped up paxck of lies continues on page TWO:

Titford continues with lies and rather embarrassingly for him I have published the copy of the letter below from the very Journalist he misquotes – clearly to misrepresent the facts to suit Titford’s own dishonesty.

Titford claims that West contacted The Paper concerned which is untrue. Graham Dines phoned West and West declined to talk on the phone and since he was in the region of the paper’s office that same day he called in.

You will note Graham Dines confirms that John West declined to give any details merely confirming the details that I had already provided. I well recall John West phoning me and telling me both before and after his meeting with the Journolist in question.

It is most fortunate that John West did not make any other comment in the light of his inexperience with the media – particularly since it would seem that Graham Dines is in fact colluding dishonestly with both David Bannerman the liar, EU employee and fraud who has been corruptly and dishonestly PLACED as lead candidate for MEP in the region and Jeffrey Titford who has so betrayed EUkip and the electorate and the untrustworthy and dishonest Gulleford.

At least Titford praiseas John West – stating that he does not regret ‘trying to clean up the corruption in EUkip’ – WELL DONE John West, if there were more honest decent members of EUkip like John West who had the courage to act honourably EUkip might be building on the achievements of 2004 rather than facing probable wipeout on June 4th. if they are not brought to a halt by a fully funded Writ of Mandamus.

Perhaps the larger story here is just what is the ‘DEAL’ struck with the regional paper and via what routing?

Perhaps we can let the various media and journalists who are regular readers of this blog ferret that scam out!

For the record this message to Stuart Gulleford and David Bannerman is clearly a matter not of dealing with news management but dishonestly corrupting the news in collusion with the reporter.

Dine is correct in that Neil Thomson is lead officer for OLAF on this particular investigation details of which, with OLAF’s heading are posted a couple of blogs ago!

You will note that Dine volunteers confirmation of the facts I have given above – West went into his office at his request and Dine makes a point of showing West volunteered no information, merely confirming that which Dine had already been told.

How very true Dine’s warning is and due to EUkip’s dishonesty, corruption and incompetence the situation is clearly becoming, to use Dine’s comment, ‘messier by the minute’!

It is interesting to speculate on just what is the nature of the relationship of Dine and the corrupt EUkip members is!

This letter of Defamation & Harassment by and from Messrs. Gepp & Sons is a disgrace and clearly based on the lies of Titford & Gulleford.

That Messrs. Gepp & Sons have issued this unprofessional drivel without checking a word of it speaks volumes of their calibre.

I believe that Gepp & Sons having not provided themselves with a caveat, way out, they must accept responsibility for their outrageous Defamation of Johnm West and the clear attempt to Harass John West for their client to suppress the truth – an unequivocal apology is clearly due to John West and if they have the integrity to publish same they may be assured that I will publish it on this blog.

This matter has continued for almost 18 months, during which time John West has consistently acted honourably and honestly in the face of constant and deliberate attacks form EUkip’s leadership.

May I point out that during that time Jeffrey Titford has been paid somewhere in the region of £400,000 and has done virtually nothing of value for these United Kingdoms nor for his Constituents in the Eastern Region – he has in fact all but abandonded them, now living several hours away on the South Coast. Further Titford has colluded in dishonesty with others bringing EUkip into disrepute.

In the light of these facts it will be interesting to note how realistic is his offer of damages to John West, I do not believe that a sum of 25% of the money he, Titford, has received would not be unreasonable by way of compensation and I believe that if such a settlement is offered John West will be willing to donate 50% of the compensation due from Titford to causes which are dedicated to extracting these United Kingdoms from the EU.

Let us see if EUkip has any honour or integrity or if they would rather loose through the Courts and be wound up. Do remember that money is not the option as the NEC are jointly and severally liable for any and all damages, fines, forfeiture and costs and clearly there is no limit in terms of punative damages, in view of the fact that EUkip has 12 elected MEPs with an income in excess of £300,000 a year each and a pension for life!

Quite a perspective when it comes to undeniable collusion in corruption and dishonesty!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#387* – EUkip ETHICS DON’T STINK THEY DON’T EXIST!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 16/03/2009

#387* – EUkip ETHICS DON’T STINK THEY DON’T EXIST!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

EUkip ETHICS DON’T STINK THEY DON’T EXIST – CORRUPTION IS PROFESSIONAL & ENDEMIC!!

Hi,

One could barely make this up – not only is Ma Zucherman displaying either a cavalier attitude to professional standards or he is a fool – though to judge by his associates he is nothing more than a grubby little scheister.

Clearly Derek Clark should in fact be suspended as an MEP let alone an officer of EUkip on the NEC pending a Disciplinary Hearing for broinging EUkip into disrepute as not only is he a proven liar, he has betrayed these United Kingdoms and treacherously colluded in corruption, dishonesty and assisting the EU to impose greater subsidiarity on Britain.

Also being under Formal Investigation for fraud and abuse of public money by OLAF.

Titford also should be on a Disciplinary Hearing for colluding in corruption in the selection and so called election process for MEP candidates for details CLICK HERE, further Titford has abandoned his constituents and now lives on the South Coast at Ditchling, permitting the odious Golom who we know is untrustworthy and was recently dumpped by The CIB. A parasite who has done little for EUroScepticism whilst making it as career, in which he has been only too happy to lie and cheat for personal gain.

That Titford is under investigation by OLAF for fraud and no doubt other criteria in which John West has been put on notice that he may be called as a prosecution witness. What validity Titford’s trumpped up pack of lies as a complaint – Titford is as discreditted as Ma Zucherman, derek Clark and the other pond life in EUkip who have so damaged the party and should be facing a disciplinary hearing themselves.

Having read in detail the pretence ‘Complaint’ from Titford – It is my opinion that Titford should be on a Disciplinary Hearing facing kicking out for having trumpped up a pack of lies as false witness against a decent honest member.

These people are beneath contempt and with Farage, Bannerma, Andrew Smith, NuttAll, Denny and the rest of the shower on the NEC and leadership they have as I predicted would occur if Farage was ever able to take charge of the leadership all but destroyed EUkip – their only achievement being self enrichment and acting as recruiting sargeants for the BNP.

EUkip’s leadership and NEC should face the Courts for their crimes.


Study the series of letters below which I have received from a contact with access to NEC correspondence:

Note The Dates for a Show Trial & Kangaroo Court on Monday 16th. March 2009 11:30hrs.!

From: john west [mailto:johnwest81@hotmail.com]
Sent: 12 March 2009 22:04
Cc: alanbown@btinternet.com; cgill36@hotmail.co.uk; DAVID BANNERMAN; douglas.denny@btopenworld.com; Farage MEP. Nigel (LEADER); jill_seymour@btopenworld.com; nigel.farage@europarl.europa.eu; Paul Nuttall; rjoxley@lineone.net; Derek Clark
Subject: RE: Disciplinary Hearing

Dear Mr Zuckerman,

I am in receipt of your email dated 11th March informing me that you have withdrawn from your involvement in my case due to having been put on notice of my complaint against you by the SRA. I am surprised that you have seen fit to withdraw only at this very late stage in view of my previous objections to your role in this matter .
You will recall that in two of my previous letters to you ( 3/2/9 & 23/2/9) I put you on notice that I had complained to the SRA about your conduct. I pointed out that because of this complaint you had an interest to declare and should withdraw from the proceedings. You declined to do so.
In view of the above I am astonished that you are still clearly involving yourself in this matter by requesting further information from me concerning the case. You have either withdrawn from this matter or you have not .
You cannot purport to do so and then continue with your inquiries on behalf of UKIP. It is now quite clear to me that the conduct of this case has been so badly handled by UKIP`s representatives that I have no faith in these proceedings. I have therefore decided to withdraw from them and I will not be attending the hearing.
Yours sincerely,
John West
Clearly Ma Zucherman has absolutely no understanding of ethics, morality or legal professionalism! You will note John West is forced to communicate via a secretary at Bent & Manure!
NOTE The response comes from an intermediary at Bent & Manure NOT Ma Zucherman!
CC: alanbown@btinternet.com; cgill36@hotmail.co.uk; dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk; douglas.denny@btopenworld.com; ukipse@ukip.org; jill_seymour@btopenworld.com; nigel.farage@europarl.europa.eu; ukipbootle@yahoo.co.uk; rjoxley@lineone.net; derekrclark@hotmail.co.uk; mazuckerman@bensonmazure.co.uk
Subject: RE: Disciplinary Hearing
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:29:03 +0000
DO NOTE: This letter is after hours on Friday for a Kangaroo Court on Monday morning!! Very professional!!
Dear Sir,

I have your letter of 12 March 2009 and note your comments. I am able to advise you that the Chairman of the Disciplinary Hearing on Monday will now be Derek Clark MEP, who has kindly agreed to take my place. I note that you will not be attending. The hearing will therefore take place in your absence.

Yours faithfully,

M A Zuckerman
Party Secretary

CC: alanbown@btinternet.com; cgill36@hotmail.co.uk; dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk; douglas.denny@btopenworld.com; ukipse@ukip.org; jill_seymour@btopenworld.com; nigel.farage@europarl.europa.eu; ukipbootle@yahoo.co.uk; rjoxley@lineone.net; derekrclark@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: RE: Derek Clark & Disciplinary Hearing
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:28:01 +0000
Dear Mr Zuckerman,
Your last email is unacceptable.
1. As a member of the NEC Derek Clark is the subject of complaints to the ICO and the Police. I am also taking legal action against UKIP over the MEP selection process and the Youtube leak. Mr Clark could very well be called as a defendant in this case.Derek Clark has an interest to declare and cannot be considered impartial.
2. Para 1.6 of the Disciplinary Rules states that no-one can sit on the panel where there is a close connection between them and the complainant or respondent.Derek Clark is an MEP and so is the complainant. This is a close enough connection to disqualify a member of the panel but apparently not enough to disqualify the chairman!
3. At no point have you stated which rules you are following and why or whether the NEC were consulted in choosing Clark as replacement chairman.
4. Neil Thomson of OLAF has confirmed that I can expect to be called as a prosecution witness if OLAF decides to proceed with the complaint against Jeffrey Titford. Mr Titford is aware that OLAF is looking into his case and yet he is still using UKIP’s complaints process to intimidate a potential prosecution witness. As a solicitor you must realise that intimidation of a potential prosecution witness is a very serious matter.
5. Despite claiming to have removed yourself from the disciplinary process you have continued to send me emails about this matter. Under the Discipline Rules 1.3 and 1.4 it is clear that you should have handed over the conduct of the case to another member of the Discipline Panel.
I would remind you that I put you on notice on two occasions that you were the subject of a complaint to the SRA. Despite this you declined to remove yourself from the process.
I am sorry Mr Zuckerman but once you withdraw from the proceedings you cannot continue to arrange the hearing and the paperwork .
You can`t have your cake and eat it!
As a solicitor you should know that justice must be seen to be done. In this case justice is not being seen to be done.
I put you on notice that I will be making a formal complaint to the SRA about your role in this affair.
I will be also speaking to my solicitor with a view to taking further legal action against UKIP over this issue.
Yours sincerely,
John West

One has to ask whether Ma Zucherman a supposedly qualified solicitor, has advised:

Michael Bedford
Yvonne Larg
Yvonne McGuire

Daniel Stowell
that they may, as panelists on this Kangaroo Court, be taking part potentially in a criminal action in that they are colluding in what is clearly an unlawfull abuse designed to intimidate a prosecution witness!

Clearly John West is under absolutely no compulsion to attend this Kangaroo Court which has been dishonestly and disreputably convened – Bringing what little reputation the party still has into further disrepute!

Should the so called hearing continued it will be in deliberate disregard of the two fundamental tennets of British law as it ignores ‘nemo judex in causa sua’.
Nor does it pay any cogniscence to the principle of ‘audi alteram partem’.

The so called verdict will have no meaningfull validity but it will tell the electorate in no uncertain teerms that EUkip and its officers, candidates and supporters have absolutely no moral right to solicit YOUR vote.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.


NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#386* – EUkip, DENNY & INSTITUTIONAL DISHONESTY

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 16/03/2009

#386* – EUkip, DENNY & INSTITUTIONAL DISHONESTY


Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%a bad name!
EUkip, Douglas DENNY & YET MORE INSTITUTIONAL DISHONESTY!

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British Democracy Forum > Anti-EU, Euroscepticism and European reformism > UKIP General Issues

Aaarrgghh: What on earth is Michael Zuckermann up to?
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Hi,

To whom it may concern I can attest and will do in any Court required that Douglas Denny is distorting the facts and beyond any and all doubt he is telling serial lies in this thread.

QUOTE of Douglas Denny’s dishonest, self serving, attack on Petrina Holdsworth:
Another direct lie???
or just rotten memory?
Partial recollection perhaps??
What other excuse can you dream up?
YOU were there within a couple of feet of me and GLW both!
YOU HEARD alright !!
YOU were protesting just the same!
…along with GLW and Swaine and the others.
YOU heard me say I would convene in the pub around the corner alright!
NO apologies then?
Can’t bring yourself to admit you are wrong?
You disgust me!
DED.
Clearly from the punctuation and stridency of this hectoring little man his insecurity and self deprecating false over confidence is palpable – but it serves his Party ill and over the last few years has done much harm.

You will note that Douglas Denny stridently and offensively states that I and Petrina Holdsworth were within feet of him when he was telling his lies – it is interesting that his dishonesty is in direct contradiction of the facts led by Petrina Holdsworth, myself and the others present.

I BELIEVE Peter Baker, Petrina Holdsworth, Marilyn Swain, Marriette Baker and the gentleman, whose name escapes me, who as I recal was a Regional committee member and branch chairman – will all attest that my statement that Douglas Denny is a liar; in irrefutable confirmation of the facts which I state herein.
At NO TIME did the silly self important little chap Denny, as he stood on the top step in his high heels trying to seem relevant, make the statements he claims.
He stated that he was not prepared to hear any evidence from me and stated, not being man enough to accept responsibility for corrupting the hearing, that Batten had said he was not to let me into his offices – which we now find are rated as a flat!
Denny stated that Batten had stated that if anyone wished to listen to me they could no doubt find a pub toilets.
Be minded that the jumped up idiot Batten with his ill considered Islamaphobic drivel has come a long way from selling phones in a shop for BT and sadly he has learned nothing of duty, Justice, morality or integrity on route.
He has not even understood the fundamental duties of living on the public purse as a parasite.
I am not surprised that he deliberately set out to make sure an innocent elected servant of UKIP, Peter Baker, should be denied witness of the fact that Derek Clark was telling lies to remove him from his elected position as Chairman of the East Midlands Region for EUkip – he was neither sufficiently malleable nor adequately dishonest to suit Derek Clark who has so betrayed these United Kingdoms.
It comes as little surprise that having driven away supporters Gerard Batten is now openly stating that he expects The BNP will have a Mr. Barnbrook elected in his place in June.
Douglas Denny, yet again, brings EUkip into disrepute with his intemperate irresponsible dishonesty – all too often Denny writes his own illusionary revisionist history of his failures, dishonest, corruption and lies in an attempt to convince himself he is of some worth.
The text Denny provides in this thread is in all aspects a misrepresentation and in the main outright lies.Yet he still befouls the reputation of the party dragging it into the gutter of his self serving delusional fantasies.
It is worth note that the odious little Derek Clark besides dragging the reputation of EUkip into his gutter has colluded with The EU in direct opposition to the best interests of UKIP and has colluded in ever money making scam and fraud he has found available, as he openly boasted at a public meeting – he has done NOTHING of note for his constituents or his party save seek to fund his own re-election to the gravy train on which in the last 5 years he has most probably been able to trouser around £1,000,000 in money which can only be seen as stolen in the light of the total waste of space he has proved to be.
A duplicitous, dishonest little old man currently under investigation by OLAF allegedly for his various frauds.
A man who should be tried and imprisoned for his treachery, self enrichment and betrayal & maybe proison for his fraud when proven.Please publish where appropriate.
Regards,
Greg Lance-Watkins
01291 – 62 65 62
TO LEAVE THE EU
What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.
Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.
The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!
To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!
Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62
PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!
I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.
Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:
LEAVE THE EU

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#385* – EUkip EXPLAINS WHY MEMBERS ARE BETTER OFF OUT

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 15/03/2009

#385* – EUkip EXPLAINS WHY MEMBERS ARE BETTER OFF OUTClean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

EUkip EXPLAINS WHY MEMBERS ARE BETTER OFF OUT & THE STAFF SHOW WHAT THEY THINK OF MEMBERS!

Hi,

Just for the record – Drew Belobaba is a qualified practicing Solicitor of Canadian origin who together with his Australian (Vietnamese origin) who is a qualified Dispensing Pharmacist, both are working and have a small child. They have chosen to live in Britain and await British citizenship and drew has brought his experience in Politics in Canada to bear.

Drew was elected to an executive role, has tried to assist with policies in an elected capacity and had been selected and elected as a PPC.

Whether the idiots who are destroying the party from the top doen – which I stated 12 years ago would be inevitable if Farage ever managed to gain leadership and in reality he was not elected to the task but cheated, lied and colluded in corruption to seize the role.

No one denies Farage is the best CURRENT mouthpiece for the party as, like a cuckoo, he has pushed every challenging egg or chick out to dir rather than risk sharing – is there any surprise that Training has never been featured in EUkip. One views the latest promo video 10:25mins long 10 minutes of ‘Oh worship the leader’ and the ballance being a study of Bob Spink’s bad teath and a badly lip sinced sound bite, Gerard Batten struggling to read a sound bite off a card & Tom Wise holding up a banner to glorify The Glorious Leader.

Consider the FACTS Drew Belobaba provides in his resignation letter clarifying for his coleagues – then considerr how The Faragista Fan Club cheer leader responds (David Samuel Camps is Nigel Farage’s Political Assistant!!!)

I am writing you to inform you of my decision to resign as the UKIP Prospective Parliamentary Candidate for Lewes Constituency and indeed from the Party itself.

Some of you will no doubt feel let down by my decision and therefore I am writing this letter to give my explanation for the course of action I have taken.

Unfortunately over the past 18 months it has become apparent to me that the UKIP’s leadership has no interest in taking the party forward and building it into something bigger and better.

They have nothing of any consequence to say about the current economic crisis or any of the other serious issues that preoccupy voters choosing instead to focus on peripheral issues.UKIP has no strategy to GET BRITAIN OUT OF THE EU. We can only achieve our goal by electing MPs to Westminster.

Unfortunately, no steps have been taken by UKIP’s leadership to prepare for an anticipated general election sometime in the next 18 months. UKIP also continues to fail to recognize the vital importance of local elections and by-elections as a stepping stone to winning seats at Westminster. Failure to make a sustained effort in this regard has resulted in the British National Party seizing the initiative to become the choice for voters disaffected with the three main parties.

The electorate is increasingly coming to see UKIP as a spent force.Even preparation for this year’s European Elections has been lacking. Hardly any money has been raised to fund the campaign and planning for the election began only recently. UKIP is unlikely to elect more than a handful of MEPs in June.

Yet even if every single British MEP represented UKIP they would still be powerless to obtain our country’s withdrawal from the European Union.For these reasons and others I have decided that I can no longer continue to support UKIP or represent it as Prospective Parliamentary Candidate for Lewes.

Instead I have chosen to join the United Kingdom First Party.

UK First was founded by former members of UKIP including former UKIP Deputy Treasurer Martin Haslam, and former UKIP Party Chair, Petrina Holdsworth. UK First understands the importance of contesting and winning both local and Westminster elections and by-elections.

It also understands that in order to advance our agenda of securing Britain’s withdrawal from the European Union we must focus on other issues that the British public finds important. I urge you to join UK First and help bring about positive change.

You can learn more by visiting the UK First website at United Kingdom First Party or by contacting me. If you wish to join UK First, you can do so by posting your UKIP membership card to
PO Box 4415
Dunstable,
Bedfordshire,
LU6 9HG.

I hope that you will consider joining and that we will have the opportunity of continuing to work together to build a brighter future for our country.

Yours truly
Drew Belobaba

How to win friends and influence people – the UKIP way

Or to QUOTE The Foul Mouthed Annabelle Fuller:
How not to do Politics
see –
upcoming Court Case and Damages Claim related to her childish, criminal dishonesty posting ‘trusted’ material on YouTube and telling lies as an imp0lausible attempt to wriggle out of her offence with the supportof her ‘friend’ the liar Nigel Farage who even lied in The Daily Mail & The Independent for her – some men think with their little head for personal gain not their big head honourably from duty!


Drew states:
“Here is a reply that I received in response to my resignation email from David Samuels. Whilst others who have emailed me were polite despite disagreeing with what I had said, the same cannot be said of Mr. Samuels.

I will reply to his various allegations later”.

Drew,

I note from your widely-distributed circular that you have resigned as PPC for Lewes and from the Party. You explain your action by claiming that the “leadership has no interest in taking the party forward and building it into something better”.

Your claim would have carried more weight had you been able to demonstrate at least a reasonable period of time during which you had fought for change within the party but had finally come to realise that your ideas were never going to be accepted. However, this is not the case, is it Drew.

Both the Regional Organiser and your county organiser tell me that they have never received any representations from you on any of the criticisms that you list in your resignation note. Further, like all PPCs in the South-east, you had the right to attend and speak at regional committee meetings but, unlike many, you never attended; and nor did you ever submit anything in writing.

To whom then, and over what period and in what manner, did you communicate your grievances?

You had a rapid rise in UKIP since you came to this country in, I believe, late-2006. I understand that you joined the UKIP Surrey committee in February 2007: was adopted as PPC for Lewes in December 2007 and, of course, was short-listed as an MEP candidate last June. You are obviously extremely talented, which makes it all the more difficult to understand why you apparently failed to realise that YOU were now part of “the leadership”.

As a PPC you were in an extremely privileged position of having access to any number of channels of communication to either Nigel Farage or anyone else in the party. My understanding is that you failed to use any of them.Perhaps that was because you knew that so many of the criticisms you now list were either ludicrous or had no basis in fact.

As an example of the first, you say “We can only achieve our goal by electing MPs to Westminster”. Gosh! Really! This will come as a complete surprise to all our members who grow up on the dictum that if we repeal the European Communities Act 1972 the whole EU edifice in this country falls and, to do that, we require a majority of just ONE in (wait for it) the House of Commons.

As examples of the second, you say “no steps have been taken… to prepare for an anticipated general election”. Did you tell that to the UKIP members in Lewes who adopted you as their parliamentary candidate 15 months ago? Or to any of the members of hundreds of constituency branches up and down the country who have done similarly?

And you also say “UKIP also continues to fail to recognise the vital importance of local elections”. I suppose that is why the party, in its determination to broaden its appeal from its original single-issue stance, has produced so many policy documents on other subjects, including local government. Indeed, I seem to remember your claim to have been a member of two such policy development committees.

There are, of course, many areas where criticism is justified, as is inevitable in any organisation, but if you believe in an idea and an ideal, you fight for those ideas and you work together with others to achieve the common objective; you do not walk away like some spoilt prima donna.I feel very sorry for the members of our Lewes branch.

You have repaid their loyal support in adopting you as their candidate and in working for you for over a year, with the ultimate betrayal. If you had had an ounce of regard for those people you would have – given your views – quietly departed the scene with as little fuss as possible. Instead, you have publicly humiliated your former supporters by publishing a note of resignation full of malice towards your former Party and concluding with a party political broadcast for an organisation whose principal object is to inflict as much damage on UKIP as possible.And what an organisation it appears to be!

Apparently formed just a week ago.

First, you tell us there is Martin Haslam. Forty years’ ago when I was chairman of South Kensington YC’s, I vaguely remember Martin as a committee member on neighbouring Chelsea YC’s. A nice inoffensive-enough chap but hardly likely to set the Thames alight.

Then you tell us there is Petrina Holdsworth. She resigned as UKIP party chairman just before an annual conference. According to everything I’ve read and heard, this was because she considered she had been insulted by Mike Nattrass.

Whether true or not, I can say that my opinion of her was cemented when I saw her performance on UKIP’s behalf once on ‘Question Time’.

Let us say that the tub of lard placed on the empty chair on ‘Have I Got News for You’, to represent the absent John Prescott, displayed much more animation and eloquence than was shown by Miss Holdsworth.I think you’ll get on very well with your new colleagues.

Yours sincerely,
David Samuel

Not surprisingly drew Belobaba, having been an elected and unremunerated contributor to EUkip felt he should respond to the letter he had received that was so damaging to the EUroSceptic cause – he responded thus:

Dear David,

Thank you so much for your kind words. You are correct in that I have never made any representations to either Steve Harris or Kris Latham. This is because I recognized early on the futility in doing so. This is not to slight the dedication or the hard work put in by both Steve and Kris, but because they have no power to bring about change within the party. Furthermore I have spoken with others who have made representations on these very issues, including people considerably higher up in the party than myself. They have told me that their representations have fallen on deaf ears. At no time was I informed that as a PPC I had the right to speak at regional committee meetings. I do recall however, writing directly to the leader of the Party with some suggestions.

As for your suggestion that I am part of the “leadership” of the party, this is nonsense. I believe there are close to 650 parliamentary constituencies in this country. Are you suggesting that potentially all 650 PPCs should involve themselves in running the party. PPC’s are there to campaign and get elected. It is not unreasonable to expect that the governence of the party should be left to those who have been tasked with doing so. Do you think that David Cameron shares the leadership of his party with all 650 Tory MPs and PPCs?

Of course I made the obvious point that WE NEED TO ELECT MPs TO WESTMINSTER. I wouldn’t have done so if I was satisfied that you and others in leadership positions within the party understood the importance of this. With respect to local elections, I would point out that to successfully contest a local election requires more than a half-baked local manifesto concocted at in a rush at the last minute (this is not the same as general party policies). Unfortunately UKIP does not have a coherent strategy or message for local elections. That is perhaps why the BNP so regularly hands UKIP local candidates their heads on a platter. The same appears to be true of parliamentary by-elections. It appears that no lessons have been learned from the debacles at Bromley, Sedgefield, Ealing, Crewe, and Henley.

So far David, I have received three other replies from members of UKIP. Kris Latham, who had specifically asked that I provide written reasons for my resignation thanked me for my email and wished me the best of luck. Both Peter Lindsay and John Moran, whilst disagreeing vehemently with what I had written did so in a gentlemanly manner. If I had written malice I suspect that this would not have been the case. When I read what they have written I feel very sorry to be leaving such a group of dedicated, and hard working people. Your email on the other hand has confirmed for me of the correctness of my choice.

Yours truly

Drew Belobaba

Good luck Drew – let us hope that UKFP can get their act together, and can find an honest and competent leader, who is not on an ego trip and will act in the best interests of the Party rather than as a self enrichment scam!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#384* – OLAF IS INVESTIGATING EUkip’s TITFORD

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 14/03/2009

#384* – OLAF IS INVESTIGATING EUkip’s TITFORD

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!


OLAF IS INVESTIGATING
EUkip’s Jeffrey TITFORD
DESPITE THE LIES OF EUkip!

Hi,

Interestingly what this letter from OLAF does not show is that the rather sad figure of Jeffrey Titford, who is fast loosing the plot, no longer serves his constituents and is rarely seen in the constituency – even more rarely than is Derek Clark seen in his which is saying something – Deadweight Derek the whore of Brusells does go back to the East Midlands but most of those who know him would far rather that he didn’t.

Jeffrey doesn’t even bother now that he lives hours away in Ditchling on the South Coast!! Why should he care – he is far too old to stand again – unlike the pathetic old failure Clark who has no life beyond his plotting and scheming to stay in the EU to betray Britain, as he so clearly has since 2004 – the man is a liar, a cheat and if you trod on him you would wish to scrape him off your shoe rapidly as with much else you may accidently tread on.

To go back to the letter for a moment:

I’ve had this letter for some time now – in fact since mid December last year – however until recently I thought it unwise to publish the letter.

Many will recall the banshee screeching of the village idiot of Swine Dome as he screeched LIES at the top of his little falsetto, going purple in the face and shortly after being taken off the air for a few days whilst they restabilised his warfarine – the poor little rat was over excited AGAIN.

It is astonishing just what idiots some of these people make of themselves whether it is the sad old Soothsayer of Swine Dome or the pimply yoooof Joshua Onyons or the imbecilic sums teacher Jonathan Arnott then there is the dribblingly over ambitious Ma Zucherman whose desperation for recognition from people of some stature is pathetic.

Yeah – just double click the letter I’ve provided a copy of – of course I was telling the truth – I always try my very hardest to tell the truth and not mislead anyone.

In my position where I use my own name and don’t hide behind some childish silly name and unlike Junius I do not have to keep my identity secret to ensure I can still continue to work AND gather information, facts and close up detail from the belly of the beast.

There is a validity in a nom de plume for such as Junius – I will attest to that – there is absolutely no integrity in nebishes and time wasters like Stuart Parr or Joshua Onyons to use childish names to shelter their lies and dishonesty behind to avoid having their names linked to the lies.

Anyway – I can produce documentation to back almost every single statement I have made – I do NOT lie nor do I set out to mislead. That I am called a liar by congenital idiots is of little consequence – consider the source. Fortunately I just can’t be bothered keeping a single thing in my life secret as I have nothing to be ashamed of – nor need I lie about revolting people like Mark Croucher, Douglas Denny, Bob FM, Mick MuckTrough, Andrew Smith, Scruffy Duffy or liars and filth like NuttAll, Reeve, Bannerman, or the utterly discreditted political prostitute Marta Andreasen, nor liars like Hugh Williams, Gawain Towler, Malcolm Wood nor the rest of the revolting dishonourable claque of low life that are EUkip’s leadership, MEPs, NEC and front line cheer leaders.

A vote for EUkip is a vote in betrayal of these United Kingdoms – look how they have betrayed our Country since 2004.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#383* – THESE EUkip PEOPLE ARE REVOLTING

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 14/03/2009


#383* – THESE EUkip PEOPLE ARE REVOLTING

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

THESE EUkip PEOPLE ARE REVOLTING, THEY ARE JUST BULLYING YOBS WITH NO IDEA HOW TO BEHAVE!

Hi,

fortunately the last step in this correspondence had, what seems to be, the full string of the correspondence and was sent in the last but one instance to a ‘source’ thus providing the opportunity for people to understand, once I had obfuscated my ‘source’ and reversed the order to make it more readable – here is the opportunity to in part understand just how unprincipled are EUkip!

From: vclarke@bensonmazure.co.uk
To: jtitford@ukip.org; johnwest81@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Disciplinary Hearing
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:12:53 +0000

Dear Sirs,

Re: Disciplinary Hearing

The hearing will now take place at The Farmers Club, 3 Whitehall Court, London SW1A 2EL at 11:30am on Monday, 16 March 2009.

Would you please notify me immediately if you intend to bring a friend or legal adviser with you. Also, if you intend to bring any witnesses in support of your case, please let me know.

Yours sincerely,

M A Zuckerman
Party Secretary

Interestingly it seems they are wasting party money on renting facilities in central London when they have already rented accommodation space opposite St. James’ Park – one wonders what they use that for when they are renting premium space for such mundane events as Disciplinary Hearings and the monthly shouting, bowing scraping and swearing meeting – which resolves almost nothing as that is done with Farage on his own calling himself The Political Committee with no minutes!

What is the point in West advising his defence? When Peter Baker arrived at his trumped up show trial with witnesses who proved beyond doubt that Derek Clark was a liar – the witnesses were denied access and Peter Baker was denied his fundamental human rights to defend himself by that filthy little creep and liar Douglas Denny, who is proven even by EUkip standards to be a liar and corrupt!

You will note that Ma Zucherman has so little understanding of the law and clearly no comprehension of morality such that although he has been cautioned in written form at least twice in February he still manages the the continued intimidation of John West, thus officially tampering with and seeking deliberately to intimidate a witness – strange behaviour for a self proclaimed solicitor!

From: john west [mailto:johnwest81@hotmail.com] Sent: 10 March 2009 09:38
To: vclarke@bensonmazure.co.u
kSubject: RE: Disciplinary Hearing

And who will be chairing this hearing?

John West
You will note still Ma Zucherman continues to orchestrate this intimidation and adds to the harassment by failing to provide basic information – a recognised method of legal intimidation.

Do note this is clearly NOT an internal Disciplinary hearing as presented as the entire process (NOTE DATES) are being orchestrated by Bent & Manure Ma Zucherman’s little legal firm.

Thus clearly the level of intimidation is far more consequential, as it was clearly understood that Bent & Manure were behind the first round in the Courts where John West was advised by The Judge that the case before him was more suited to being a Judicial Review (which by now EUkip will be aware is being put in hand if EUkip refuses to reach an accomodation NOW on John West’s terms having failed to address their earlier dishonesty sooner – we are reliably advised that it is effectively an open and shut case for The strand, in the light of the Constitution, the rules and The Returning Officer’s unequivocal report not to mention the supervisor the irresponsible and corrupt Christopher Gill miked off on holiday in the midsta of his duty.
EUkip are without valid or credible defence and that they have resorted to intimidation will consequentially damage their case!)

From: vclarke@bensonmazure.co.uk
To: johnwest81@hotmail.com
CC: jtitford@ukip.org
Subject: RE: Disciplinary Hearing
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:26:08 +0000

A senior member of the Party other than myself.

Michael Zuckerman

Still – less than a week before hand Ma Zucherman has NOT recused himself – he is still orchestrating intimidatory correspondence through his legal firm.

We also note that even having not clearly recused himself Ma Zucherman is colluding with his colleague Geoffrey Titford EUkip MEP for the Eastern Region with a vested, yet undeclared interest, currently living in Ditchling several hours travel from his constituency – in seemingly direct contravention of the fundamental principles of the original UKIP which misguidedly elected him!

That seemingly Titford is the complainant is astonishing and yet further intimidation – just how great a case of bringing EUkip into disrepute are members to tollerate of Titford and his associates?

It is conveniently overlooked that Titford not only lied in that he claimed he was not under investigation when I know and have proven in earlier blogs, with numbers and details of the Police Enquiries in Britain and the OLAF enquiry numbers etc.

Further I have seen and read the tissue of lies of Titford’s lies and false witness against John West in which the dishonest Golom & Reeve no not another legal firm but the odious untrustworthy bully Peter Reeve, who is currently under investigation by The Police for assault whilst on duty as EUkip’s unelected Regional Organiser & the oleagenous Stuart Gulleford an underhand and duplicitous slime ball who has turned opposition to the EU into a milch cow.

Should this not be a disciplinary against those who are dishonestly seeking to intimidate John West, seemingly seeking to try to force him to quit on his probable Judicial Review (Unless EUkip acquits its duty to him) & the subsequent consequential damages a case which again, based on the crime under The Data Protection Act and the evidence as shown will clearly go against EUkip.

It is interesting that since the legal costs would now seem to be in place the fact that I launched a fund to contribute towards John West’s out of pocket expenses (lost wages, meals, travel etc. etc.) It is interesting to note that there are attempts of EUkip’s low life supporters to intimidate me and also to try to extort money from me. So typical of EUkip – immagine had they continued as a political party this might have become the method of governance!!

From: john west [mailto:johnwest81@hotmail.com]
Sent: 11 March 2009 09:40
Subject: RE: Disciplinary Hearing

I have a right to know who will be chairing the disciplinary hearing. Are you refusing to give me the name of the chairman? If so, please give the reason for this. Also, please tell me which Party rule allows you to withhold the chairman’s name from the defendant.

John West
You will note a mere 5 days before the party Kangaroo Court John West is still trying to ascertain the details and is forced to deal with Ma Zucherman’s legal firm – Interestingly you will note even at this stage Ma Zucherman has not yet formally recused himself nor admitted his vested interests nor those of the untrustworth Titford.
He has also I understand increased the intimidation in other correspondence by STATING rather than asking that Stuart Gulleford who has been proven a dishonest and untrustworthy rival who colluded with Peter Reeve and others in corruption of the selection/election of MEP candidates which is an integral part of the Police, OLAF & current Electoral Campaign enquiries founded on the unarguable corruption delineated in EUkip’s official Returning Officer’s Report.
Wherein is the Justice of these odious EUkip enforcers?

From: vclarke@bensonmazure.co.uk

Subject: RE: Disciplinary Hearing
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:52:28 +0000
The writer has recused himself at short notice, having just receive your complaint against him from the Solicitors’ Regulation Authority. A chairman is being selected and you will receive confirmation of his identity in due course. Are you attending? Are you bringing witnesses? Do you have any documents to produce?

Michael Zuckerman

Yet we note the writer is Ma Zucherman and thus we are shown that vclarke of Bent & Manure is a mere secretary and thus no doubt obtaining legal advice and weight from executives of the firm.

Farcical isn’t it – Ma Zucherman less than 2 working days before the so called hearing recuses himself conceding he is legally remiss and has been all along and with little over a day to go he proffers an undertaking to get around to advising who will chair this show trial set up clearly as a means of intimidation of a witness in serious legal cases in hand.

Clearly this is unacceptable and Ma Zucherman has not only brought EUkip into disrepute by his crass and near criminal behaviour and clearly he has brought his legal Union into disrepute.

This being a squalid and unlawful process in real terms plays 100% into the hands of John West’s Solicitors & briefs for both the Judicial Review at The Strand and whereso ere the Consequential Damages claim is brought. It is no concern of John West’s where The Data Protection Commissioner decides to bring his separate criminal case against EUkip relative to their failures under the DPA.

Interestingly EUkip’s first claims in their defence were that the foul mouthed Annabelle Fuller had been fired relative to her criminal actions yet it is noted and affidavitted that she is still in association with EUkip’s leadership and thus seemingly has NOT parted company with the Party. Their only splinter of defence would now seem to be destroyed!

From: john west [mailto:johnwest81@hotmail.com]
Sent: 12 March 2009 22:04To: vclarke@bensonmazure.co.uk
Cc: alanbown@btinternet.com; cgill36@hotmail.co.uk; DAVID BANNERMAN; douglas.denny@btopenworld.com; Farage MEP. Nigel (LEADER); jill_seymour@btopenworld.com; nigel.farage@europarl.europa.eu; Paul Nuttall; rjoxley@lineone.net; Derek Clark
Subject: RE: Disciplinary Hearing

Dear Mr Zuckerman,

I am in receipt of your email dated 11th March informing me that you have withdrawn from your involvement in my case due to having been put on notice of my complaint against you by the SRA. I am surprised that you have seen fit to withdraw only at this very late stage in view of my previous objections to your role in this matter .
You will recall that in two of my previous letters to you ( 3/2/9 & 23/2/9) I put you on notice that I had complained to the SRA about your conduct. I pointed out that because of this complaint you had an interest to declare and should withdraw from the proceedings. You declined to do so. In view of the above I am astonished that you are still clearly involving yourself in this matter by requesting further information from me concerning the case.
You have either withdrawn from this matter or you have not .
You cannot purport to do so and then continue with your inquiries on behalf of UKIP. It is now quite clear to me that the conduct of this case has been so badly handled by UKIP`s representatives that I have no faith in these proceedings. I have therefore decided to withdraw from them and I will not be attending the hearing.
Yours sincerely,
John West
It must be seriously embarrassing for EUkip to have been so clearly wrong footed in their deliberate and dishonorable persecution of John West.

Clearly Ma Zucherman and his associates have no understanding of morality, integrity, honesty, integrity or ethics – increasingly it becomes clear that they have no clear understanding of Justice or it seems the basics of Law.

I happen to know John West was working during this period and thus can not have been expected to receive any communication until the evening of the day it was sent at earliest. EUkip has been trying to organise this particular act of bullying and intimidation of John West since well before Christmas – why then have they left the matter to literally the last day?

Incompetence or deliberate? EUkip have left themselves – if they are to act in a manner where they may be thought to act honourably – they have no choice but to issue an open apology and drop their dishonest case against him as it is clear they have lied to intimidate him to TRY to save themselves from many 10s of 1,000s of Pounds in terms of damages, fines and costs – if they do not apologise and seek settlement.

CC: alanbown@btinternet.com; cgill36@hotmail.co.uk; dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk; douglas.denny@btopenworld.com; ukipse@ukip.org; jill_seymour@btopenworld.com; nigel.farage@europarl.europa.eu; ukipbootle@yahoo.co.uk; rjoxley@lineone.net; derekrclark@hotmail.co.uk; mazuckerman@bensonmazure.co.uk
Subject: RE: Disciplinary Hearing
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:29:03 +0000

Dear Sir,

I have your letter of 12 March 2009 and note your comments. I am able to advise you that the Chairman of the Disciplinary Hearing on Monday will now be Derek Clark MEP, who has kindly agreed to take my place. I note that you will not be attending. The hearing will therefore take place in your absence.

Yours faithfully,

M A Zuckerman
Party Secretary

So ONE working day before the kangaroo court sits Ma Zucherman is still managing and orchestrating the process & doing so through his legal firm!

Further we are told that Derek Clark the utterly discreditted MEP who is not only a member of EUkip’s leadership but also of the NEC and thus with a vested interest, particularly since he has listed himself in position one for re-election to the gravy train in the eastern midlands, who has already most heinously brought EUkip into direpute for his treachery and duplicity and also lied and bore false witness previously in trying to orchestrate the show trial of Peter Baker, which collapsed due to his own dishonesty is clearly unfit to chair anything!

Further Derek Clark is indisputably under investigation for corruption and financial dishonesty by OLAF and various individuals have been interviewed in the matter. We are unaware as to whether John West will be called as a witness, though we know West is a witness against EUkip for criminality on various counts and also a witness for the Crown in a case against Titford, gulleford, EUkip, Reeve, Fuller, Gill etc. as and when they are called.

Derek Clark should obviously be suspended as an MEP as should Titford & Farage as both of them are under investigation by OLAF etc.

For the record it is known that Niall Warry is being interviewed by OLAF on either the 16th. or 17th. April in the matter of Derek Clark, it is also known that Niall Warry has a direct interest in the John West cases.

Clearly Clark is unfit.

Further there is no valid case against John West since it is based upon lies by Titford, to which I am happy to attest in a Court of Law should EUkip wish to call such a case AFTER the OLAF, Police & various criminal cases are resolved.

EUkip is clearly damaging its reputation and is acting ultra vires bringing itself into disrepute and into conflic with both Natural Law, British Law and Justice.

EUkip is Shamed by its own executive AGAIN!

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.

NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.

Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#382* – THE FURTHER HYPOCRACY OF DEREK CLARK

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 14/03/2009


#382* – THE FURTHER HYPOCRACY OF DEREK CLARK

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

THE FURTHER HYPOCRACY OF DEREK CLARK CITED BY A COUNCILLOR AS BEING A MAJOR PART OF HIS REASON FOR LEAVING EUkip!

Hi,

Increasingly there are large areas of Britain that were areas of support for UKIP which due to the Fascist style of leadership and the incompetence not to mention just how effective EUkip leadership have acted as recruiting sargeants for The BNP with particularly Farage’s idiotic attempts and pretence of being infiltrated by The BNP.

Astonishingly there are some EUkip members who are stupid enough to believe this ‘Reichstag Fire’ story which is clearly fantasy.

There is absolutely no fear of The BNP trying to infiltrate EUkip when Farage and his idiotic chums are driving members into The BNP’s arms.

Clearly EUkip has far more to fear from the likes of Farage, NuttAll, Bannerman, Derek Clark, Tom Wise, the discreditted Marta Andreasen, liars and cheats like Andrew Smith, Ma Zucherman, Ian Smith, Malcolm Wood, Hugh Williams and so many more.

UKIP councillor and chairman resigns from Party

Peter Baden has resigned from UKIP after becoming thoroughly disillusioned with Nigel Farage and the way UKIP has drifted towards autocracy since he became leader. He was also angered by Derek Clark’s lack of support for branches in the Region.

Mr Baden was the Chairman of Corby and East Northants. He was also the UKIP councillor for Thrapston Lakes Ward.

Mr Baden now sits as an Independent.

Mr Baden joined UKIP in 1994. He stood for UKIP in three general elections and several local elections. He was known as one of UKIP’s most committed supporters and was well-known in the Corby area as a tireless campaigner against the EU.

Clearly UKIP is in terminal decline. Branches are closing, members have left and our votes are down. Unless Farage and his sycophants on the NEC are removed UKIP is finished.

To view this in the original CLICK HERE

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#381* – THE HYPOCRACY OF DEREK CLARKE

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 14/03/2009

#381* – THE HYPOCRACY OF DEREK CLARKE

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

THE HYPOCRACY OF DEREK CLARKE WITH REGARD TO TONY ELWOOD’S RESIGNATION!

Hi,

it may interest you to know that besides the details in Junius’ article below – it seems clear that Tony Elwood, who was a dedicated if undynamic employee and long term supporter of the old UKIP.

Tony Elwood put in his own time and his own money together with Ian Gilman (later an NEC member who quit in disgust not wishing to befoul his reputation or be held jointly or severally responsible for the dishonesty of the leadership & NEC) – both had attended Huntsman Training/Social weekends as had many of the more valuable and more competent UKIP members – sadly some, like John Moran had joined in the dishonesty and corruption of The Faragista Fan Club of EUkip for personal gain it seems, despite attending several weekends – unfortunately that did not stop him being a liar, a thief (he stole some £2,000 of Democracy Movement and colluded with Farage in its transfer!) or colluding in attempts to bear false witness.

There is no doubt Tony was disgusted by the dishonourable behaviour of Derek Clark and his failure to aid branches or his region. Clearly Clarke has done NOTHING for UKIP, his electorate or Britain beyond drag its reputation into the gutter in which he clearly lives and is at home.

We understand Tony Elwood intends a detailed announcement regarding Derek Clark and will resign his membership, much as did John Pratt Chairman of EUkip Wales to protect his reputation from further association with Clark, his unimpressive staff and EUkip.

The hypocrisy of Derek Clark:
Tony Ellwood is sacked

Tony Ellwood – Derek Clark’s political researcher- has been sacked on trumped-up charges following disagreements between the two.

Problems started after Clark went to Bucharest and signed a declaration espousing the principle of “subsidiarity”. Prior to this UKIP has always been in favour of total withdrawal from the EU. By accepting the principle of subsidiarity UKIP was now accepting the authority of the union to take decisions which are not devolved to national or regional government.

At the same time Clark also signed up to the principle of “reforming” the Common Agricultural Policy, something which UKIP had previously refused to recognise at all.

Mr Ellwood naturally felt that this was a betrayal of everything UKIP stood for.

Tony Ellwood is set to resign as the Chairman/Secretary of UKIP North Nottingham.

Mr Ellwood joined UKIP in 1994 and was largely responsible for co-ordinating UKIP’s East Midland’s EU campaign in 2004. He was also the Regional Treasurer.

Clearly Clark is a hypocrite. He is yet another example of a UKIP MEP gone native. His ‘patriotism’ can be bought for £60,000 plus expenses. No wonder he wants to do a second term in Brussels! Fortunately it is extremely unlikely that he will get re-elected.

Derek Clark is currently under investigation by the EU’s anti-fraud office.

Derek Clark OLAF Case Number: D/007/033/04.09.08

Derek Clark OLAF Investigation Number: DD/FD-D2008.A1/7133/OF/2008/0240

OLAF officials have now interviewed two of Mr Clark’s former colleagues.
To view this article in its original context/form CLICK HERE

This revolting, corrupt and dishonest old man Derek Clarke has obscenely betrayed these United Kingdoms bringing shame on our Country and UKIP undermining the reputation of UKIP though unable to damage his own as it is hard to see this odious man as having any reputation worthy of respect.

Be minded this is the dishonest old man who bullied and lied about the ELECTED chairman of the East Midlands Regional Council Peter Butcher – not only did Derek Clarke lie about Peter Baker but he colluded with that egregious piece of filth the liar Douglas Denny (a posturing fool who has done more to destroy UKIP than almost anyone else with his public idiocy and dishonesty supporting the corruption that has become EUkip).

Derek Clark also colluded with the risible and untrustworth Gerald Batten to deny Peter Baker both his defence and the witnesses who proved Clark was a liar.

I publish this material about Clark not only as fact but because it puts in context just how corrupted is EUkip in a subsequent Blog.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#380* – EUkip FASCIST CONTROLLERS TWITTER ON!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 13/03/2009

#380* – EUkip FASCIST CONTROLLERS TWITTER ON!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

EUkip FASCIST CONTROLLERS TWITTER ON with DETAILS OF FARAGE’s La ROWE’s EFFORTS TO ‘OBTAIN’ DECLAN GANLEY’S MONEY!!

——————————————————————————–

Tomorrow the world

Meeting Friday 13th March 2009


Venue – A secret location in London

Present
All sycophants and sock puppets

Apologies
Junius, Greg Lance-Watkins. Basildon Boy and assorted fruit, Jamie. The Pharoah, SteveUKIP.

Chairmans Opening Remarks
Chairman Nuttall announced that membership had risen to 62 million. One billion leaflets had been delivered in the last month, and that was in Bootle alone. He made an appeal for other branches to work as hard as his own.
As a novel fundraising exercise Chairman Nuttall has introduced a range of Shell Suits to the UIP shop to be modelled by Jamie UK and discussions are in an advanced stage to retail these on a wider basis through Scruffy Duffy.

1. Minutes of last meeting
Agreed and approved by the Great Leader (anyone who disagreed was instantly revealed as an evil, racist, fascist, BNP plant and suitably disciplined by a Latvian pole dancer).

2.Searchlight update – Mark Croucher
Mark reported back that Searchlight had confirmed that anybody not in the Socialist Workers Party is an evil filthy racist BNP plant. The Great Leader thanked him for his hard work and confirmed that from now on all members will be checked to make sure they are members of the Socialist Workers Party. It will be assumed from now on that any member without said membership are evil, filthy, racist BNP plants and this will need to be revealed in a blog (anonymous of course)

4. Forum Update – Bob FM
Bob addressed the meeting with his usual aplomb but raised the issue of repeated name calling on the forum. This included references to his plinth and his truncheon. The Great Leader promised to sort this out for him and said ‘this is why I called this meeting. The days of the Forum are numbered and tomorrow belongs to us’. Bob grovelled his thanks to the Great Leader for his support and apologised that he had to leave early whilst bowing backwards out of the room.

5. The State of UKIP – Nigel Farage
Everybody nodded when Nigel reported that we were on target to get 70 MEPs elected in June. He informed the meeting that on Friday 20th of () the identity of Junius would be exposed. Junius is now regarded as the biggest threat to mainland Britain even above the EU. Therefore the meeting agreed to adopt a reformist agenda, proposed by the Great Leader and seconded by Marta Cristina Barcelona, which was passed sycophantically, er sorry, unanimously. Junius has to be stopped at all costs. Everyone at the meeting nodded in agreement.

June Election Update
Chairman Nuttall confirmed that the Farage Enabling Act had been passed and the members suitably hoodwinked by tales of extremism. The one billion leaflets that had been delivered in his ward alone in the last month would be supplemented by:

A million more members
400 more hoadings
500 new branches
One clo…..osed forum
5 Bob FMs
4 Mick McGoughs
3 Dorset Boys
2 ooh Jamie UKs
And a Pharoah in a Pyramid
(Well the Great Leader got it, you fifth plinthists)

Any other business
Mick McGough asked if the Great Leader could arrange the extermination of Basildon Boy and Sontoran Sammy for dissing the Great Leader. This was agreed by the Great Leader. Mick McGough had to excuse himself from the meeting and left the room bowing and scraping to the great leader.

The level of freedom on the forum was an issue raised by several attendees and all agreed that real freedom of speech was not something that could be tolerated in the real world. Therefore it was agreed a further meeting should take place to discuss methods that could be used to silence dissent.

Date of next meeting: Friday the 13th
Venue: Declan Ganleys Office
Minute Taker: Big Bro

To view the original article CLICK HERE

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#379* – Stuart PARR SETS OUT TO MISLEAD EUkip MEMBERS.

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 13/03/2009


#379* – Stuart PARR SETS OUT TO MISLEAD EUkip MEMBERS.

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

Stuart PARR SETS OUT DISHONESTLY TO MISLEAD EUkip MEMBERS OR SO IT SEEMS!

Hi,

Having published what could well be called a pack of lies originally, details can be seen if you CLICK HERE, but let us give him the benefit of the doubt and mark it down to over enthusiasm and a sadness that leads some EUkip members to find in the loss of their innocence at discovering just how dishonest and unpleasant those they ‘worshipped’ actually are.

Having provided the really quite offensive and clearly misleading attack he made on UKFirst Party CLICK HERE and having resoundingly failed to deal with the detailed rebuttal I have placed both at CLICK HERE & at CLICK HERE or on Junius Blog where he tried to mislead and distort with comments at CLICK HERE

It seems Stuart Parr felt more comfortable posting on the EUkip approved Bloggers4UKIP – here is his attempt to re-establish himself having so far proved to be either a liar or a propagandist, depending on one’s morality.

Yes I am often a propagandist but in literally 100s of 1,000s of words and well over 400 blogs & eMalis posted in the last 4 months or so NOT ONE FACT of consequence has had to be corrected, the ONLY error was based on two separate eMails from EUkip members that claimed a far from relevant member had left – the information was wrong and I corrected the fact with an apology withing a very short time of being informed of the error.

It would seem Stuart Parr & EUkip as so often before tend not to let the truth nor morality get in their way!

Here is Stuart Parr’s Blog (small but as posted) I have then dismantled it for your clarification and to provide the truth countering his misrepresentation.

Thursday, 12 March 2009
More UK First Party lies
I really do have better things to do with my time than keep responding to the lies of the UK First Party’s semi-literate representative but as he bravely disabled comments on
his blog to make sure nobody can correct him at source, I’ll have to do so here.

It’s ironic that the mysterious Greg L-W should make such a big thing of using a username instead of my real name on blogs – presumably the name on his cheque book isn’t Greg L-W. For the record, however, I am far better known on the interenet – especially in political circles – by my username rather than my real name. There is no secret as to who I am – a quick search of Google will turn up innumerable sources of information about me.I am not, despite what the UKIP website says, the chairman of Telford & Wrekin UKIP and haven’t been for a couple of years. While others, like Greg L-W, were actively trying to bring down the party they supposedly support, I did a stint as chairman when I was needed.And despite saying this several times, Greg L-W’s stunted intelect obviously needs several reminders before anything sinks in – Bloggers4UKIP has nothing to do with UKIP. It is not an “approved UKIP site”. UKIP did, in fact, ask for something to be removed from the site once and I refused.While there is a lot of my personal information about me on the internet (which dispels the myth that I am coy about my identity), putting my employment details on a blog is out of order and in breach of Blogger’s terms of service. I specifically don’t talk about my employer – especially as I work on a contract for a government department – but it’s not hard to work out who it is I work for from other information. However, I am not an “IT Consultant” as Greg L-W says. His tone of writing implies that he knows all this secret inforrmation about me but he doesn’t. It’s all freely available information with a bit of guess work.Putting my phone number on there – which, again, is freely available on the internet – and inviting people to make unsolicited calls to me is also in breach of Bloggers terms of service and if I did receive any abusive phone calls would mean Greg L-W had committed a criminal offence.With cretins like this in the UK First Party, I really don’t think UKIP or any other party has anything to worry about. The party is only a couple of weeks old and already their members are bringing it into disrepute!

Now let us look at just how dishonest and misleading Stuart Parr is prepared to be to protect the dishonest, corrupt, liars, cheats and frauds that form the leadership of EUkip – has no one any morality in EUkip?

The astonishing thing is that there are still people left corrupt enough to support this behaviour. As a dedicated supporter of the principles and aims of UKIP, who has spent 1,000s of hours working in one form or another to try to uphold democracy, liberty, freedom and justice – having never hidden my identity and always having been readily willing to stand by my word.

I have NEVER hidden from anyone, I have been prepared to be openly cross examined, I have always been prepared to answer questions and put my name to the answer in public.

Perhaps someone – ANYONE would care to publish any detail supported by facts of an instance where I have deliberately lied or misled.

Let us see how Stuart Parr measures up in his one brief blog!

Thursday, 12 March 2009
Sorry – I only discovered his posting when it was pointed out to me or I would have replied sooner.

More UK First Party lies
Firstly one has to establish that they have told a lie before YOU can claim they are telling more – since Stuart Parr has failed to present a single lie by UKFirstParty – this makes Stuart Parr dishonest by any measure of the word.

I really do have better things to do with my time
I rather wish you would do them as British Politics is demeaned by cowardly liars like Stuart Parr.

than keep responding to the lies
One would hope so but perhaps Stuart Parr is obsessed with talking to himself as he is clearly the established liar & has failed to show a single lie in this series of dishonesty he has widely published.

of the UK First Party’s semi-literate representative
Who might that be? If the implication is that it is I – wrong again – I am not a representative of UKFirstParty, unlike Stuart Parr who is a spokesman for EUkip AND A LIAR to boot.

but as he bravely disabled comments on his blog
No bravery required on one of my blogs CLICK HERE I do not post comments – I publish facts and my opinions and views – NOT YOURS.

However I manage to respond to comments on other blogs I have – also I believe the sane will agree that I am probably one of the most readily available of bloggers – as with here CLICK HERE which is clearly listed as a link on most of my blogs.

to make sure nobody can correct him at source,
No I will ALWAYS correct Fact if I have made a mistake – phone, eMail or write. Sadly all too many EUkip leadership supporters and members of that leadership are so dishonest, corrupt, morally beneath contempt and fundamentally the scum of the earth I do not wish to have their comments, lies and abusive bullying on my blog.

I’ll have to do so here.
No – You could try publishing an apology for having lied, misled and deceived and done so from a position of anonymity.

Can you perhaps justify this dishonest and offensive piece of childish behaviour on a EUkip approved Blog?

Surely a decent organisation would consider such an offensive representation as bringing them into disrepute.

It’s ironic that the mysterious Greg L-W
Perhaps you can justify the foolish sobriquet of ‘mysterious’ – what mystery do you find. In what was can you describe someone who has presented in public and NEVER failed to answer a single question asked of them.

It would of course be accurate and substantiated that you are now showing signs of being not only dishonest but a liar also.

should make such a big thing of using a username instead of my real name on blogs –
You sir were using a silly name not your own and publishing lies, dishonesty and seeking to belittle and besmirch the reputation of myself other individuals and a nascent Political Party – if you can not act ethically by the civilised standards of communication may I suggest since you have been shown to be an official spokesman of EUkip at various times and being still advertised as such – Please do not expect me to grant you license for your contemptible underhand behaviour.

presumably the name on his cheque book isn’t Greg L-W.
No, it is Greg Lance-Watkins as clearly shown on my blogs, either directly or by clearly provided linkage. It is a recognised abbreviation of my name as on my passport.

For the record, however, I am far better known on the interenet –
To whom? I have NEVER heard of you and in the light of your dishonesty and contemptible behaviour I would submit the internet would be better off without such a liar and low life.

especially in political circles –
I believe you deeply flatter or delude yourself.

by my username rather than my real name.
Are you really that ashamed of your identity!

There is no secret as to who I am –
Then may I suggest you put your name to your words, it may give you pause for thought when you lie and deceive.

a quick search of Google will turn up innumerable sources of information about me.
Indeed it does – why should I bother?

If that is the case be man enough to leave childish names to the other TROLLs

I am not, despite what the UKIP website says, the chairman of Telford & Wrekin UKIP and haven’t been for a couple of years.
Rather makes my point I guess – from Chairman to misleading people for the next 2 years!
As Chairman surely it was YOUR duty to ensure the web site was accurate.

So is it that you are dishonest and were happy to be misrepresented or just incompetent?

While others, like Greg L-W, were actively trying to bring down the party they supposedly support,
I have NEVER tried to bring down the Party I have stated for a dozen years that I am a dedicated supporter of UKIP its grass roots core members and values.

I clearly stated that I backed Nigel Farage as the performer for UKIP but would implacably oppose him if he EVER stood for leader as he lacked the gravitas, had absolutely no OQ, lacked leadership skills, was sexually amoral, had a serious drink problem, consorted with prostitutes, was financially untrustworthy, was without ethics, integrity or fundamental honesty.

To this day I support UKIP – perhaps your perception of my ‘mystery’ is that I have done so much for UKIP whilst you piddled around the edges, seeking your own status,

I did a stint as chairman
OoooooH

when I was needed.
Surely no one wanted an incompetent, dishonest, liar without integrity for I note you repeat lies that you KNOW you have had proven false.

And despite saying this several times, Greg L-W’s stunted intelect obviously needs several reminders before anything sinks in –
Since you take the details so seriously it makes something of a fool of you to criticise my ‘intelect’ by spelling it wrong.

I make no claims of intellect, I do however make clear assertion that I value honesty, integrity, decency, morality and fundamental ethics – None of which dop you seem to have Stuart Parr – You are sir a liar and a cheat.

Bloggers4UKIP has nothing to do with UKIP.
May I correct you – it is clearly promoted by EUkip on their web site and has been promoted in EUkip publications and directly publishes as RSS on EUkip’s behalf. Further it will be noted it is badged to EUkip style and colours and clearly publishes material for EUkip.

It is dishonest to pretend it has NOTHING to do with EUkip!

It is not an “approved UKIP site”.

I think we have established the dishonesty of this statement in any practical terms.

UKIP did, in fact, ask for something to be removed from the site once and I refused.
How brave of you, was it the spelling of intellect?

While there is a lot of my personal information about me on the internet (which dispels the myth that I am coy about my identity), putting my employment details on a blog is out of order
Why? I have never been ashamed of my actions such that I would not wish my employers to know and since the information is, as you have stated, on the internet – so what?

What is indubitably out of order sir is that you are a liar and squeeling like a stuck pig when exposed and shown to be a liar and a cheat acting behind a silly name is clearly far worse than just ‘out of order’.

and in breach of Blogger’s terms of service.
Is it your contention that when you have indubitably lied, misled and set out to besmirch you now further shame yourself by crying out to the bigger boy in your playground for protection – Stuart Parr you are beneath contempt.

I specifically don’t talk about my employer –
Then why is it readilly available on the internet?

especially as I work on a contract for a government department –
So howmany top secrets have you left in a taxi this week? Or do you believe in a police force that is authorised to murder innocent citizens LINK – sorry, that you work for a corrupt, profligate, incompetent, economically illiterate and treacherous government that has betrayed the British peoples does NOT impress me one iota.

but it’s not hard to work out who it is I work for from other information.
You are right – it wasn’t!

However, I am not an “IT Consultant” as Greg L-W says.
Please accept my appologies – I got this small and irrelevaqnt detail wrong and I am openly correcting it as soon as it has been brought to my attention. Please forgive me if I do not waste time going back over the search to identify where I was at fault.

His tone of writing implies that he knows all this secret inforrmation about me but he doesn’t.
To whom does it imply ANYTHING – it clearly shows you to be a coward and a liar. As for secret information, as you state it is all readily available on the internet – why would I want people to think it is secret, when I am openly stating that you should not shelter dishonesty behind your anonimity.

It’s all freely available information with a bit of guess work.
So why are you bleating that I published that which is as you state openly available on the internet – what were you seeking to ‘imply’?

Putting my phone number on there – which, again, is freely available on the internet –
As you say – it is clearly freely available so what seems to be your problem? Is it that you may receive a call from someone you have defamed or lied about who otherwise would be too indollent to look up your phone number which you clearly state is freely available!!!

and inviting people to make unsolicited calls to me is also in breach of Bloggers terms of service
Don’t be daft – if you gratuitously lie about people and seek to demean them not only will I encourage them to beard you but will bear witness against you in a Court of Law if they so wish.

and if I did receive any abusive phone calls would mean Greg L-W had committed a criminal offence.
No sir I would have provided a public service bringing a proven low life, contemptible liar to account.

With cretins like this in the UK First Party,
If this cretinous comment seeks to besmirch me a measure of your wisdom is that I am NOT a member of UKFirstParty.

I am a supporter of UKIP who will aid and assist UKFirstParty if I am able, based on the facts I have to hand, in the hope that they can unseat the liars, cheats, rascalls, frauds and scum that are being put forward to represent my Country in the elections on 4th. June.

I will do all I can to ensure the scum that is being put forward dishonestly by EUkip as candidates (see CLICK HERE)

I really don’t think UKIP or any other party has anything to worry about.
Then why does Stuart Parr and many other spokesmen for EUkip see it as relevant to lie and seek to belittle the new parties – is it perhaps that EUkip’s leadership and more vocifferous supporters knowing they are loosing a huge number of members (over 50% under Farage’s leadership) they had hoped to continue acting as recruiting sargeants for The BNP, who they so openly promote claiming many of their best and most reliable senior members have decamped to The BNP already!

The party is only a couple of weeks old
About 3 now I understand and aren’t they doing well considering they started from a standing start.

I gather shortly one of EUkip’s better known NEC members (just left not wishing to stand again and be associated with EUkip leadership) he plans on leaving EUkip as a member within a couple of weeks – presumably when Bruce Lawson is back from his antipodian vacation and when Dr. David Abbott is back in Britain from his North American Medical Practice.

Clearly the three declared founder members must reasonably be seen to include Delboy Young who is currently making a bit of a muddle of delivering their web site but he seems a slow learner as it seems he is using Mulberry again! I presume they are cheap and they have gone down this route for that reason looking at a number of their sites.

I must say, had it been me, I would have managed to get a web site up and running for under £50 within about 24-48 hours – there is plenty of time ahead to become more sophifticated – many are hoping EUkip will do so one day!

and already their members are bringing it into disrepute!
Perhaps Stuart Parr can justify this statement as I much doubt if he knows who are the members.

Let us consider a double page spread in The News of The World regarding indollence, profligacy, dishonesty, corruption of Tom Wise the EUkip MEP, member and branch chairman of the time, who was under arrest and out on bail!

Then there was Nigel Farage EUkip MEP and currently leader featured also in The NotW consorting with a prostitute and excessively drunk.

Of course the publicity in the Sunday Times, Sunday Telegraph, Telegraph featuring senior EUkip MEPs drunk, drinking irresponsibly embezzling, fraud etc. That EUkip is endemically dishonest, corrupt, bullying and incompetent at the level of its leader, leadership, NEC and staff let us hear from you in what way you claim a member of UKFirstParty may have possibly brought the new party into disrepute.

I believe any fair minded person of any morality would agree with me that in the light of the serial string of lies you have been proven to spew forth that you owe each and every one of those you have besmirched a separate public apology in every place where you have lied about them and a signed letter to their home address admitting unequivocally for your dishonesty with unreserved apology.

I am sure that if you know anyone who is ethical and has an understanding of morality and justice will be able to explain to you how to write such letters and make such apologies with copies sent with a covering apology to UKFirstParty.

Were I running EUkip I would publish an apology and denouncement of your dishonesty and suspend your membership for a minimum of 3 months as clearly you have brought EUkip into disrepute.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

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