#383* – THESE EUkip PEOPLE ARE REVOLTING
Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!
The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!
THESE EUkip PEOPLE ARE REVOLTING, THEY ARE JUST BULLYING YOBS WITH NO IDEA HOW TO BEHAVE!
Hi,
fortunately the last step in this correspondence had, what seems to be, the full string of the correspondence and was sent in the last but one instance to a ‘source’ thus providing the opportunity for people to understand, once I had obfuscated my ‘source’ and reversed the order to make it more readable – here is the opportunity to in part understand just how unprincipled are EUkip!
From: vclarke@bensonmazure.co.uk
To: jtitford@ukip.org; johnwest81@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Disciplinary Hearing
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:12:53 +0000
Dear Sirs,
Re: Disciplinary Hearing
The hearing will now take place at The Farmers Club, 3 Whitehall Court, London SW1A 2EL at 11:30am on Monday, 16 March 2009.
Would you please notify me immediately if you intend to bring a friend or legal adviser with you. Also, if you intend to bring any witnesses in support of your case, please let me know.
Yours sincerely,
M A Zuckerman
Party Secretary
Interestingly it seems they are wasting party money on renting facilities in central London when they have already rented accommodation space opposite St. James’ Park – one wonders what they use that for when they are renting premium space for such mundane events as Disciplinary Hearings and the monthly shouting, bowing scraping and swearing meeting – which resolves almost nothing as that is done with Farage on his own calling himself The Political Committee with no minutes!
What is the point in West advising his defence? When Peter Baker arrived at his trumped up show trial with witnesses who proved beyond doubt that Derek Clark was a liar – the witnesses were denied access and Peter Baker was denied his fundamental human rights to defend himself by that filthy little creep and liar Douglas Denny, who is proven even by EUkip standards to be a liar and corrupt!
You will note that Ma Zucherman has so little understanding of the law and clearly no comprehension of morality such that although he has been cautioned in written form at least twice in February he still manages the the continued intimidation of John West, thus officially tampering with and seeking deliberately to intimidate a witness – strange behaviour for a self proclaimed solicitor!
From: john west [mailto:johnwest81@hotmail.com] Sent: 10 March 2009 09:38
To: vclarke@bensonmazure.co.u
kSubject: RE: Disciplinary Hearing
And who will be chairing this hearing?
John West
You will note still Ma Zucherman continues to orchestrate this intimidation and adds to the harassment by failing to provide basic information – a recognised method of legal intimidation.
Do note this is clearly NOT an internal Disciplinary hearing as presented as the entire process (NOTE DATES) are being orchestrated by Bent & Manure Ma Zucherman’s little legal firm.
Thus clearly the level of intimidation is far more consequential, as it was clearly understood that Bent & Manure were behind the first round in the Courts where John West was advised by The Judge that the case before him was more suited to being a Judicial Review (which by now EUkip will be aware is being put in hand if EUkip refuses to reach an accomodation NOW on John West’s terms having failed to address their earlier dishonesty sooner – we are reliably advised that it is effectively an open and shut case for The strand, in the light of the Constitution, the rules and The Returning Officer’s unequivocal report not to mention the supervisor the irresponsible and corrupt Christopher Gill miked off on holiday in the midsta of his duty.
EUkip are without valid or credible defence and that they have resorted to intimidation will consequentially damage their case!)
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:26:08 +0000
A senior member of the Party other than myself.
Michael Zuckerman
Still – less than a week before hand Ma Zucherman has NOT recused himself – he is still orchestrating intimidatory correspondence through his legal firm.
We also note that even having not clearly recused himself Ma Zucherman is colluding with his colleague Geoffrey Titford EUkip MEP for the Eastern Region with a vested, yet undeclared interest, currently living in Ditchling several hours travel from his constituency – in seemingly direct contravention of the fundamental principles of the original UKIP which misguidedly elected him!
That seemingly Titford is the complainant is astonishing and yet further intimidation – just how great a case of bringing EUkip into disrepute are members to tollerate of Titford and his associates?
It is conveniently overlooked that Titford not only lied in that he claimed he was not under investigation when I know and have proven in earlier blogs, with numbers and details of the Police Enquiries in Britain and the OLAF enquiry numbers etc.
Further I have seen and read the tissue of lies of Titford’s lies and false witness against John West in which the dishonest Golom & Reeve no not another legal firm but the odious untrustworthy bully Peter Reeve, who is currently under investigation by The Police for assault whilst on duty as EUkip’s unelected Regional Organiser & the oleagenous Stuart Gulleford an underhand and duplicitous slime ball who has turned opposition to the EU into a milch cow.
Should this not be a disciplinary against those who are dishonestly seeking to intimidate John West, seemingly seeking to try to force him to quit on his probable Judicial Review (Unless EUkip acquits its duty to him) & the subsequent consequential damages a case which again, based on the crime under The Data Protection Act and the evidence as shown will clearly go against EUkip.
It is interesting that since the legal costs would now seem to be in place the fact that I launched a fund to contribute towards John West’s out of pocket expenses (lost wages, meals, travel etc. etc.) It is interesting to note that there are attempts of EUkip’s low life supporters to intimidate me and also to try to extort money from me. So typical of EUkip – immagine had they continued as a political party this might have become the method of governance!!
From: john west [mailto:johnwest81@hotmail.com]
Sent: 11 March 2009 09:40
Subject: RE: Disciplinary Hearing
I have a right to know who will be chairing the disciplinary hearing. Are you refusing to give me the name of the chairman? If so, please give the reason for this. Also, please tell me which Party rule allows you to withhold the chairman’s name from the defendant.
John West
You will note a mere 5 days before the party Kangaroo Court John West is still trying to ascertain the details and is forced to deal with Ma Zucherman’s legal firm – Interestingly you will note even at this stage Ma Zucherman has not yet formally recused himself nor admitted his vested interests nor those of the untrustworth Titford.
He has also I understand increased the intimidation in other correspondence by STATING rather than asking that Stuart Gulleford who has been proven a dishonest and untrustworthy rival who colluded with Peter Reeve and others in corruption of the selection/election of MEP candidates which is an integral part of the Police, OLAF & current Electoral Campaign enquiries founded on the unarguable corruption delineated in EUkip’s official Returning Officer’s Report.
Subject: RE: Disciplinary Hearing
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:52:28 +0000
The writer has recused himself at short notice, having just receive your complaint against him from the Solicitors’ Regulation Authority. A chairman is being selected and you will receive confirmation of his identity in due course. Are you attending? Are you bringing witnesses? Do you have any documents to produce?
Michael Zuckerman
Yet we note the writer is Ma Zucherman and thus we are shown that vclarke of Bent & Manure is a mere secretary and thus no doubt obtaining legal advice and weight from executives of the firm.
Farcical isn’t it – Ma Zucherman less than 2 working days before the so called hearing recuses himself conceding he is legally remiss and has been all along and with little over a day to go he proffers an undertaking to get around to advising who will chair this show trial set up clearly as a means of intimidation of a witness in serious legal cases in hand.
Clearly this is unacceptable and Ma Zucherman has not only brought EUkip into disrepute by his crass and near criminal behaviour and clearly he has brought his legal Union into disrepute.
This being a squalid and unlawful process in real terms plays 100% into the hands of John West’s Solicitors & briefs for both the Judicial Review at The Strand and whereso ere the Consequential Damages claim is brought. It is no concern of John West’s where The Data Protection Commissioner decides to bring his separate criminal case against EUkip relative to their failures under the DPA.
Interestingly EUkip’s first claims in their defence were that the foul mouthed Annabelle Fuller had been fired relative to her criminal actions yet it is noted and affidavitted that she is still in association with EUkip’s leadership and thus seemingly has NOT parted company with the Party. Their only splinter of defence would now seem to be destroyed!
From: john west [mailto:johnwest81@hotmail.com]
Cc: alanbown@btinternet.com; cgill36@hotmail.co.uk; DAVID BANNERMAN; douglas.denny@btopenworld.com; Farage MEP. Nigel (LEADER); jill_seymour@btopenworld.com; nigel.farage@europarl.europa.eu; Paul Nuttall; rjoxley@lineone.net; Derek Clark
Subject: RE: Disciplinary Hearing
Dear Mr Zuckerman,
I am in receipt of your email dated 11th March informing me that you have withdrawn from your involvement in my case due to having been put on notice of my complaint against you by the SRA. I am surprised that you have seen fit to withdraw only at this very late stage in view of my previous objections to your role in this matter .
You will recall that in two of my previous letters to you ( 3/2/9 & 23/2/9) I put you on notice that I had complained to the SRA about your conduct. I pointed out that because of this complaint you had an interest to declare and should withdraw from the proceedings. You declined to do so. In view of the above I am astonished that you are still clearly involving yourself in this matter by requesting further information from me concerning the case.
You have either withdrawn from this matter or you have not .
You cannot purport to do so and then continue with your inquiries on behalf of UKIP. It is now quite clear to me that the conduct of this case has been so badly handled by UKIP`s representatives that I have no faith in these proceedings. I have therefore decided to withdraw from them and I will not be attending the hearing.
Yours sincerely,
John West
It must be seriously embarrassing for EUkip to have been so clearly wrong footed in their deliberate and dishonorable persecution of John West.
Clearly Ma Zucherman and his associates have no understanding of morality, integrity, honesty, integrity or ethics – increasingly it becomes clear that they have no clear understanding of Justice or it seems the basics of Law.
I happen to know John West was working during this period and thus can not have been expected to receive any communication until the evening of the day it was sent at earliest. EUkip has been trying to organise this particular act of bullying and intimidation of John West since well before Christmas – why then have they left the matter to literally the last day?
Incompetence or deliberate? EUkip have left themselves – if they are to act in a manner where they may be thought to act honourably – they have no choice but to issue an open apology and drop their dishonest case against him as it is clear they have lied to intimidate him to TRY to save themselves from many 10s of 1,000s of Pounds in terms of damages, fines and costs – if they do not apologise and seek settlement.
CC: alanbown@btinternet.com; cgill36@hotmail.co.uk; dcbdcbuk@yahoo.co.uk; douglas.denny@btopenworld.com; ukipse@ukip.org; jill_seymour@btopenworld.com; nigel.farage@europarl.europa.eu; ukipbootle@yahoo.co.uk; rjoxley@lineone.net; derekrclark@hotmail.co.uk; mazuckerman@bensonmazure.co.uk
Subject: RE: Disciplinary Hearing
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:29:03 +0000
Dear Sir,
I have your letter of 12 March 2009 and note your comments. I am able to advise you that the Chairman of the Disciplinary Hearing on Monday will now be Derek Clark MEP, who has kindly agreed to take my place. I note that you will not be attending. The hearing will therefore take place in your absence.
Yours faithfully,
M A Zuckerman
Party Secretary
So ONE working day before the kangaroo court sits Ma Zucherman is still managing and orchestrating the process & doing so through his legal firm!
Further we are told that Derek Clark the utterly discreditted MEP who is not only a member of EUkip’s leadership but also of the NEC and thus with a vested interest, particularly since he has listed himself in position one for re-election to the gravy train in the eastern midlands, who has already most heinously brought EUkip into direpute for his treachery and duplicity and also lied and bore false witness previously in trying to orchestrate the show trial of Peter Baker, which collapsed due to his own dishonesty is clearly unfit to chair anything!
Further Derek Clark is indisputably under investigation for corruption and financial dishonesty by OLAF and various individuals have been interviewed in the matter. We are unaware as to whether John West will be called as a witness, though we know West is a witness against EUkip for criminality on various counts and also a witness for the Crown in a case against Titford, gulleford, EUkip, Reeve, Fuller, Gill etc. as and when they are called.
Derek Clark should obviously be suspended as an MEP as should Titford & Farage as both of them are under investigation by OLAF etc.
For the record it is known that Niall Warry is being interviewed by OLAF on either the 16th. or 17th. April in the matter of Derek Clark, it is also known that Niall Warry has a direct interest in the John West cases.
Clearly Clark is unfit.
Further there is no valid case against John West since it is based upon lies by Titford, to which I am happy to attest in a Court of Law should EUkip wish to call such a case AFTER the OLAF, Police & various criminal cases are resolved.
EUkip is clearly damaging its reputation and is acting ultra vires bringing itself into disrepute and into conflic with both Natural Law, British Law and Justice.
EUkip is Shamed by its own executive AGAIN!
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