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#360* – Bob SPINK MP ex Tory Clarifies His Position

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/03/2009

#360* – Bob SPINK MP ex Tory Clarifies His Position


Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

Dr. Bob SPINK MP ex Tory After A Brief If Foolish Daliance With EUkip Clarifies His Position As An Independent MP!

Tory? UKIP?
Now I’m just an inde says MP Bob

2:30am Saturday 7th March 2009

By Sarah Calkin »

MAVERICK MP Bob Spink claims he has never been a member of UKIP, despite announcing he was joining the party in April last year.

At the time he described the party as the “natural home for principled Conservatives” after resigning from the Conservative Party following infighting with the Castle Point Conservative Association.

And he was listed as a UKIP MP when speaking in the House of Commons, where he was the party’s only MP, up until November 24.

After that he has appeared on the official record as an independent during debates.
Speaking in Parliament this week, he said: “I belong to no party. I am an independent.”
But UKIP spokesman Tim Worstall said Dr Spink was still on the books.

He said: “He has been issued a membership card, but he’s never actually paid for membership.
“He’s still on our books as a member.”

Dr Spink said he was clarifying his position after speaking and listening to his constituents.

He said: “I made it clear last year I am an Independent MP and wished to be known as such. I respect and support UKIP, particularly their policies on Europe.

“In fact, I considered myself a UKIP ‘member’, although I never formally joined UKIP and do not intend to do so. I work for my constituents, not for a political party and I think that is what local people want.”

When he joined UKIP Dr Spink said he was looking forward to support from UKIP activists to help him fight the next election campaign.

But yesterday he told the Echo he would not be accepting any financial support or activists’ help from the party for his campaign.

Vera Partridge, chairman of the Castle Point Conservative Association, said: “I’m quite surprised he is not a member as he made such a big deal of joining. But really it’s immaterial to us what party he wishes to align himself with.

“It’s a case of which party is it this week?”

However, chairman of the local UKIP branch Ron Hurrell, of Hadleigh Park Avenue, Thundersley, said he continued to support Dr Spink.

He said: “Bob is a fine constituency MP. We are happy to have his support on European issues and respect his wish to be independent.”

To view the original article in the press CLICK HERE

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#359* – C.I.B. Newsletter & Conference

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/03/2009

#359* – C.I.B. Newsletter & Conference

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

C.I.B. Newsletter & Conference – Update & Details!

CAMPAIGN FOR AN INDEPENDENT BRITAIN E-NEWSLETTER

We are moving the Campaign for an Independent Britain e-newsletter to a new system and are taking the opportunity to update our mailing list.

To continue to receive CIB e-mailings, please visit…

http://www.eurosceptic.org.uk/newsletter

…to sign on.

Thanks for your continued support

==================

Join us at our Public Meeting on 04-Apr-2009.

See http://www.euroscepticuk.blogspot.com/ for details

Campaign for an Independent Britain: http://www.eurosceptic.org.uk

Public meeting – free admission

Saturday 04-Apr-2009, 2.30-5.00pm

The Friends Meeting House,
Large Hall,
173 Euston Road,
London
NW1 28J
(across the road from Euston rail station).

Admission free (Right of admission reserved)

FREEDOM & DEMOCRACY NOT EUROPEAN UNION DICTATORSHIP

Speakers include:

Sir TEDDY TAYLOR
“Democracy Dying” – How Parliament & People’s Power have faded away because of the EU

FRANK KEOGHAN (Irish People’s Movement)
“The EU tramples on the democratic will of theIrish people”

DELE OGUNTIMOJU
Movement for National Reformation (Nigeria)
“Anunnatural union failed the nations of Nigeria and will fail in Europe”

BRIAN DENNY
Trade Unionists Against the EU Constitution “The right to work”

HENRY NITZSCHE
Independent member of the German Parliament
“Germany and the Lisbon Treaty”

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#358* – EUkip CAN REMEMBER ANOTHER AUTHOR!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/03/2009

#358* – EUkip CAN REMEMBER ANOTHER AUTHOR!


Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

EUkip CAN REMEMBER ANOTHER AUTHOR WHO LIKE Robin PAGE NOW WAS FED UP WITH THE LIES & SPIN!!

Requiem for UKIP

Vernon Coleman

Over the last few years I’ve done whatever I could to help UKIP.

I haven’t always agreed with all their policies, of course.

For example, I think that the Union is pretty well stuffed (Scottish nationalists aren’t going to shut up) and we should now be battening down the hatches and preparing for a last ditch effort to protect England. And I don’t think that UKIP agrees with my view that we need to dump the laughably one-sided `special relationship’ with the USA.

But UKIP has for some time been the only mainstream political party which has steadfastly opposed the European Union. Last autumn I spoke at their annual conference in Telford and although I’m not a member of UKIP I thought we had a good enough understanding. I thought we shared a loathing of the European Union and that’s a pretty good basis for a political relationship.

However, my faith in UKIP has now been shattered. And I’ve found myself questioning its very purpose.I write books. It’s what I do for a living. And over the years I’ve written half a dozen volumes on politics. Naturally, since I don’t toe the Government line on the European Union (or, indeed, anything else) my books are pretty widely (and efficiently) banned. For example, most national newspapers refuse to take advertisements for them, and the BBC would shut and bolt their doors if they saw me heading towards one of their studios.

Promotional material for my books has, however, appeared several times in UKIP’s magazine Independence.

I’ve paid UKIP thousands of pounds for the privilege of offering my books to their members. And, I’m pleased to say, many UKIP members have bought my books. It has been mutually beneficial. I have received scores of requests to speak at UKIP meetings. (Indeed, ironically, I received an invitation to be the keynote speaker at a UKIP conference just days after I had been told that my books attacking the EU weren’t suitable for advertising to UKIP members.)

And then, suddenly, they refused to accept any more inserts advertising my books.At first they refused to accept inserts for a book of mine called Living In A Fascist Country. I could understand that.

Living In A Fascist Country doesn’t pull any punches. And I’m pretty rude about several Governments (including Britain’s and America’s.) I was told that one or two UKIP members had complained.

So I suggested that they rerun inserts promoting my books England Our England and The Truth They Won’t Tell You (And Don’t Want You To Know) About The EU. As far as I know no UKIP members had complained about these books.But, to my astonishment, they refused to accept inserts advertising those books too.

On 13th July, my office received an e-mail from Adrian Lithgow of UKIP saying: `I regret that I have instructions for the Party chairman (Dr John Whittaker) not to carry Vernon Coleman’s inserts.’

This seemed very odd.

I tried to find out why. I faxed Nigel Farage, the UKIP leader.

But no one would tell me why my books had suddenly become unsuitable for UKIP members. And so I sent a letter to the several thousand UKIP members who had already bought my books. I pointed out that the UKIP magazine Independence had refused to accept advertisements for my books attacking the European Union and I explained that I had no idea why my books attacking the EU and the British Government were no longer considered `acceptable’.

I added that books really do change the world, reminded readers that a few years ago even the CIA admitted that books are the most powerful of all propaganda tools, and ended by hoping that readers would continue to work with me in the battle against the EU and the bureaucrats of Brussels.

When the letters started dropping on doormats, and angry readers and UKIP members started to contact UKIP to complain – and to ask what was going on – the organisation suddenly woke up. Faced with many members threatening to rip up their membership cards, UKIP worked overtime finding explanations for what had happened.

And over the next few days I heard a variety of different reasons for the ban. It was, for example, claimed that UKIP had decided not to take outside inserts at all. It was alleged that I hadn’t paid for the inserts (not true). It was claimed that they had refused inserts for my anti-EU books because I’m not a UKIP member. And it was argued that promotional material for my books had been banned because my attacks on Tony Blair were considered too `vitriolic’.

One reader had apparently pulled the race card and suggested that daring to criticise Israel’s military policies meant that I was anti-Semitic. (I do get fed up of this absurd and illogically abusive argument.)

The most popular excuse seemed to be that my book Rogue Nation contains an attack on America and the war against Iraq. It was claimed that UKIP had rejected inserts because this book did not fit comfortably with UKIP’s policy towards America. This excuse confused me because I have never asked UKIP to accept inserts for Rogue Nation! I had asked them to accept inserts for my books attacking the EU. And those were the books which they no longer considered acceptable.

The most recent excuse from UKIP has come from the party chairman John Whittaker. (The man who had, allegedly, decided that inserts for my books should be banned in the first place.)

On the 3rd August, Whittaker wrote to a UKIP member stating that the inserts for my book were considered `too prominent’ and alleging that `they dominate our own magazine’.

Huh?

Is Whittaker seriously now suggesting that my inserts (the same ones that have been run before) have suddenly become so prominent (they’re the same size that they’ve always been – and, indeed, they haven’t altered at all) that they `dominate’ UKIP’s magazine?

(My first thought was that if a single sheet of paper, printed black on white, and promoting a book dominates their magazine, UKIP might want to look at the magazine they’re producing.)

Whittaker claims that it is not true that UKIP has banned my books attacking the EU. He now says that although UKIP will not accept the inserts promoting my books they will allow me to take out an advertisement within the body of the magazine.

I can’t keep up. I am very confused, quite disappointed and extremely worried by UKIP’s attitude. I can’t help feeling that this latest excuse is merely an attempt to escape from an increasingly embarrassing decision. The bottom line is that I no longer trust UKIP.

I will certainly not work with them again. And I won’t be accepting their generous offer to allow me to advertise my books in their magazine.

The fact is that this isn’t about books or advertisements any more. It is about something far more fundamental. It’s about the integrity and purpose of a political party which claims to be offering British voters a solid, rational, patriotic alternative to the self-serving nonsense being offered by the three main parties.

When I first heard that adverts for my books had been `banned’ I couldn’t help wondering if UKIP was changing its policy on the EU.

Maybe, I thought, they were worried that I was too rude about EU bureaucrats. Maybe they regard my books as being too sternly critical of the EU and the British Government.

And deep down that fear remains.

Try as I might I simply cannot understand John Whittaker’s claim that my inserts were banned because someone at UKIP has realised that the adverts `dominate’ UKIP’s own magazine. It’s a flattering thought that our bits of paper overpower UKIP’s own policy statements. (The writer of the inserts, Donna Davidson, is so delighted by this uninvited tribute that I think I’m going to have to give her a pay rise.)

But I still have that niggling thought that if scores of UKIP members hadn’t complained about the ban, I might never have received any sort of explanation. I’m left with an annoying little feeling that simply won’t go away: isn’t it just possible that my first fear was correct, and that UKIP tried to ban adverts for my anti-EU books because it finds my uncompromising anti-EU message a little strong for its tastes these days?

Is it just possible that UKIP’s leaders, the MEPs sitting in Brussels, have gone native?

And that’s where everything gets really, really worrying. Deep down I have always thought there is something distinctly strange and unhealthy about UKIP having MEPs who are getting big salaries and big chunks of expenses from the EU (which UKIP wants to see disbanded). I know this is something UKIP members have discussed. But it is curious. Is it conceivably possible that any of these MEPs might now have a more satisfactory lifestyle than they did before they became MEPs? Do these UKIP MEPs get EU pensions?

Will they live out their retirement years on money from an organisation they wanted to destroy? Just asking the questions. I have no knowledge of the answers. For all I know UKIP’s MEPs might have all given up much better jobs and much more exciting lifestyles. But are there no others who might just harbour a guilty, secret thought: `Is it possible that any of the UKIP MEPs might have gone `native’? Is it possible that they might, consciously or unconsciously, have an interest in the EU surviving?

‘I’m sure these nagging worries are entirely unfounded.But now that I’ve got them in my head they won’t go away.

Why did UKIP refuse to accept promotional inserts for my anti-EU books? The organisation would have been well paid.

Was it really because Donna Davidson’s thin, black and white inserts are so powerful that they overpower the UKIP magazine? (And remember it took them some time to come up with this explanation.)

Or could there possibly be a more sinister explanation?I honestly don’t know.But I’ve lost faith in UKIP. I won’t be speaking at any more UKIP conferences and I won’t be recommending UKIP to my readers in future.

I believe that the battle for England and against the EU has to be fought without compromise. It has to be fought with unbridled passion. And if that means upsetting the Government and the bureaucrats then that’s a price I’m quite prepared to pay.

My fear is that it may no longer be a price that UKIP is prepared to pay.Copyright Vernon Coleman 8th August 2007

Vernon Coleman is the author of England Our England, Saving England and The Truth They Won’t Tell You (And Don’t Want You To Know) About The EU. Ads for these books have been banned by just about everyone. All these books are, however, for sale from the shop on http://www.vernoncoleman.com and from all honest bookshops everywhere.
Copyright Vernon Coleman 2007

“Vernon Coleman writes brilliant books”
Company BackgroundVernon Coleman founded his publishing company in 1992 and has since sold over 2 million books in the UK.
The company (Publishing House) handles various publishing imprints: Chilton Designs which publishes hardback fiction; European Medical Journal (EMJ Books) which publishes medical books; Blue Books which publishes humour; Great Fiction which publishes novels in paperback.
Publishing House is primarily a mail order business and so we have lots of experience in this area. It means that you will be dealing with an established company with established procedures and customer service policies. It means that you can do business with us with confidence!
“Vernon Coleman writes brilliant books”



From what I understand EUkip doesn’t seem to have done a very good job of not annoying this chap too!

Professor Tim Congdon, who as an economist who was formerly a consulting adviser to The Government, has finaly left EUkip, together with his family and it seems from The Electoral Commission declarations £1,000 donation to the party per month.

We understand that Lord Bradford is no longer an active Patron and Sir Patrick Moore and Sterling Moss seem to have vanished as Patrons also.

How long before Lord Malcolm Pearson wakes up to the damage he is doing his reputation by association with The Faragista Fan Club which has damaged his status and credibility in The House of Lords.

EUkip under Farage’s control, for it would be foolish to use the term Leadership as he is no leader and wasn’t even credibly elected as leader, have not merely had a few members ‘drift’ off but has lost over 50% of its members leaving the lees in the bucket as in the main it has been the serious the competent and the activists that have left.

A VERY high percentage of those who have left have not ‘drifted’ off but have left angry with a justified feeling of being betrayed.

Incompetent leadership is one thing but in reallity such crass stupidity from EUkip beggars belief and may well beggar EUkip also – both in terms of missing donors and absent voters, many of whom are being wooed by angry, betrayed and dishonestly smeared ex EUkip members, activists and supporters – already there are plans well under way to put up candidates specifically in the South East, London & The Eastern Region also maybe The East Midlands, more in disgust at the manner in which the candidates selected cheated and lied in the selection process.

EUkip has beyond any dispute cheated and betrayed its members.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#339 – REPEAT* – ANDREASEN LIED TO THE NEC IT SEEMS!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/03/2009


REPEAT #339* – ANDREASEN LIED TO THE NEC IT SEEMS!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

The DISCREDITTED Marta ANDREASEN LIED TO THE NEC IT SEEMS! WHY ARE WE NOT SURPRISED!

To view the original of this posting on 28-Feb-09 CLICK HERE

DO View EUkip’s Sanitised NEC Minutes CLICK HERE

Marta Andreasen (MA):

The discreditted Marta Andreasen – discreditted on numerous counts, not least of which was that it seems she didn’t even tell EUkip the problems that had her suspended from her job with The OECD without pay for 15 or 18 months.

Nor the allegations of racism.

It is clear from her interview on BBC – Hard Talk – by Tim Sebastian that she also failed to mention this small detail! It was not in her CV nor it seems were the EU aware of this at the time they employed her for a brief period.

Since joining EUkip she has lied and cheated to get herself onto the MEP list for details CLICK HERE. She would also seem to have colluded in dishonesty on the NEC and has signed accounts having failed to answer valid questions at the business Meeting on matters that showed she had little or no understanding or knowledge of EUkip or its accounts.

You will note in the ‘Sanitised’ Minutes: CLICK HERE

MA said she got a call from a billionaire and potential donor, saying this had been brought to his attention, asking her to explain this email to him.

(We note this clearly discreditted and self seeking woman makes no statement of who said individual might be – we are all perfectly entitled to discount any evidence this woman gives as she is proven both dishonest AND dishonourable. G.L-W.)

I wish to make a correction to my earlier coment immediately above in italic

It has been confirmed to me that Marta Andreasen named the individual during the meeting.

Since that meeting the individual concened has clearly and unequivocally stated that not only did this conversation not take place in the manner portrayed he has gone so far as to provide a written statement that Marta Andreasen’s claim is UNTRUE.

In view of her corrupt and dishonest track record ON MANY COUNTS, I do not believe it is unreasonable to state that yet again Marta Andreasen has not just lied but has done so to bear false witness seeking to dishonestly defame and damage, slander and corruptly seek to damage a man of honour, experience, qualification and clearly an asset to EUkip.

Any honourable organisation would request the resignation of Mrs. Andreasen, not just on the strength of this single lie, not on the strength of her willingness to dishonestly and corruptly bear false witness against her fellow NEC members but as a serial liar with a questionable track record in her own self interest over many years.

May I suggest that if Marta Andreasen lacks the integrity to resign she should be summarily dismissed before she does EUkip more harm than she has already done – clearly being a major contributor to the fact that EUkip has lost over 50% of its members, has lost based on her lies several notable members, has brought the entire selection process for MEP candidates into disrepute CLICK HERE

A woman of shame acting like a Mill Stone in the minds of the informed, the media and the party!

You may well recall the excellent letter published by David Abbott seeking standards of EUkip and its NEC, based on the simple concept of if you have rules the NEC & Leadership should set an example by following them. The concept that leadership calls for the lonely position of setting an example to follow and acting with responsibly – so frequently ignored by the despot, the fascist and the dictator!

David’s letter is an example the Party should follow:

Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:42 PM

Subject: Football , cricket and UKIP

Dear NEC members and other friends,

Several times my website has pointed out that most of the world’s popular games and sports began in Britain because we Brits understood the importance of rules. You can’t have a game without them.

Rules have to be fair, agreed and understood ahead of time, and obeyed. If the rules are broken, there are penalties. The rules are not to be ignored or changed in the middle of the game. The umpire or referee has to be unbiased.

This is the British way, and it has worked for centuries. Without rules that are understood and willingly obeyed, nobody wins and nobody has a good time.

Lack of success and a distinct lack of a good time now distinguish UKIP.

Where UKIP has rules, they are ignored if it suits the leadership. Often there are no rules and no rule book. Minutes are not always kept. Rules are selectively applied to favour the few and to afflict others. Lack of fair play is sapping the life of our party.

A recent manifestation was the selection process for the MEP lists. A man who had once been my hero was going to be the trusted umpire who would ensure that the rules for the selection process were fairly applied. Instead there were significant breaches of those rules. Lynnda Robson described breaches that affected her in some detail, and we have all had communications about rule-breaking from many other complainants.

This uneven application of the rules is a disgrace. It seems to have been directed by the leadership.

Until our party leadership adopts again the ethics of its members, which is to say British habits of keeping to the rules, fair play and honesty, it is hard to envision any future success for the party.

This situation is tragic because we were looking to the party to lead us out of the morass of the EU. Instead the leadership seems to have adopted the EU’s reckless attitude toward rules and indifference to ethics, particularly Judaeo-Christian ethics.

I am sending this to several interested party members. If you are an NEC member, please vote with your conscience at NEC meetings, and do not succumb to the continuing pressure that legitimises rule-bending. If you are not a member of the NEC, but have friends who are, please encourage them to do the right thing.

Yours sincerely,

David

David F Abbott MRCP

It seems to me that David has realised the simple fact, and had the courage to state it, that if EUkip, its leadership and NEC are not prepared to abide by rules then they really have no moral right to impose rules on others or pretend to recommend them.

Surely that is a given!

Now perhaps you might wish to consider the right of EUkip to pretend to the right to represenmt anyone minded of the staggering dishonesty, bullying, lies and McCarthy style witch hunts that are the style of its MEPs, Leadership, NEC and senior staff.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#357* – EUkip POINTS AT ITS FLAWS

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 06/03/2009

#357* – EUkip POINTS AT ITS FLAWS

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

EUkip MEMBER Sir George EARLE POINTS AT ITS FLAWS!

Hi,

How in ANY rational world can it make any sense for The Faragista Fan Club, Nigel Farage and others to pick a fight and lie about Robin Page and seek to smear and besmirch his reputation it merely makes an ever more entrenched opponent!

Will these barrow boys never learn that their greed is damage daily more by their lies, posturing and attacks on those who know them best. The harm done to EUkip by the lies and distortions of Farage, Bob Feel Martinis, Malcolm Wood, Mark Croucher, Peter Reeve, Douglas Denny, Stuart Agnew, Mick McGough, Brendan Padmore and now it seems Sir George Earle has proved catastrophic for EUkip.

Issues that would have gone away if handled with intelligence by a competent leader with a mature staff have, due to a total lack of competent leadership and a leadership team, NEC and staff that have proved in the main to be low lifes acting out of self importance and for self enrichment.

One angry hornet may prove a nuisance but endlessly poking a hornets nest is both childish and damned foolish!

Ukip’s flaws and its point:

SIR – As an active member of the UK Independence Party these past 10 years, I am saddened by Robin Page’s outburst against the party and its leader (Comment March 2) but find little with which to disagree. I expect this sort of internal wrangling in any political party.

Just now, we are concentrating all our efforts on June’s European Parliament elections. There will be a choice between the main parties, which all want to stay in the EU, and Ukip, the only moderate nationwide party committed to leaving.

This election is the one and only chance our population will have of voting in any sort of referendum on the EU.

Sir George Earle Bt.,
Crediton,
Devon

To view the original letter CLICK HERE

LINK
EARLE
SIR (HARDMAN) GEORGE ALGERNON EARLE, 6TH BT , of Allerton Tower, Co Lancaster [Sir George Earle Bt, Neopardy Mill, nr Crediton, Devon EX17 5EP]; born 4 Feb 1932; succeeded f 1979; educated Eton; Ensign Gren Gds, memb London …

In consideration of the comments made in the letter:

Sir George Earle Bt said:
As an active member of the UK Independence Party these past 10 years, I am saddened by Robin Page’s outburst against the party and its leader (Comment March 2) but find little with which to disagree. END
It must surely have occurred to Sir George that as a senior member of EUkip during the 10 years he claims activity it would seem he has been most genteely invisible in seeking integrity, morality and probity such that he is now – due to his own inactivity and apathy – only too aware that Robin Page’s comments are right.

We note on his doorstep he has done absolutely nothing to expose the dishonesty and corruption of his fellow old Etonian Hugh Williams nor to seek to rectify the dishonesty and failure to act honestly by either Graham Booth or Malcolm Wood.

We also note Sir George has been conspicuous by his invisibility – where was his honourable behaviour and ‘active membership’ when it came to the dishonesty and abuse of Dr. Eric Edmond or Dr. David Abbott – what effort has he made to convince Prof. Tim Condon and his family to remain and continue supporting the corruption that is EUkip seemingly he was also not visible when it SEEMS Lord Bradford, Sterling Moss and Sir Patrick Moore withdrew their patronage and when over 50% of the members quit?

In facts as an ‘active member’ just what has Sir George done to ensure EUkip did something worthwhile in the last 5 years to get Britain out of the EU.

I do concede I am relieved that we have not seen him belittling the Party or its aims by dressing up as a chicken, inflating costly toys or wizzing around like a small child in a WWII Ferret Scout Car – not even drunk and consorting with prostitutes – does he pay family members from the public purse? Or perhaps take advantage of a family people traffiking business.

I doubt he was to be found in a luxury brothel on the outskirts of town whilst allegedly serving in the EU – building a profitable wine cellar perchance!

Sir George Earle Bt said:
I expect this sort of internal wrangling in any political party. END
Perhaps Sir George could identify the internal wrangling on the same proportion and consequential damage we see in EUkip, for each group of 17 elected members of the 19,500 elective offices in these United Kingdoms.

Does Sir George claim that the deputy leader of some other party is also a liar, a fraud and a cheat?
Or perhaps he is claiming that the treasurer of some other Party has only just joined the Party, has a track record of support for The EU, was suspended for 15/18 months by a major international organisation without pay and lost their case which included allegations of racism and then lost their case against their next employer having been suspended withing months.

Perhaps Sir George could identify the senior member of another British party carrying a foreign passport with an alien family domicile outside Britain.

etc.

Sir George Earle Bt said:
Just now, we are concentrating all our efforts on June’s European Parliament elections. END
Sir George are we still talking about EUkip?

I suggest you look about you Sir and you will see EUkip is doing little to get elected having done nothing of value since the last time 12 MEPs were elected – They are however fire fighting their own serial stupidity.

They are also orchestrating witch hunts and attacks on individuals – such that they are building a strong body not only of ex members but also implacable enemies of a degree no other party would seem to have achieved. Members leave other parties but few with the anger and sense of betrayal that EUkip has done so much to earn.

Sir George Earle Bt said:
There will be a choice between the main parties, which all want to stay in the EU, and Ukip, the only moderate nationwide party committed to leaving. END
We all did that for years and we got 12 UKIP MEPs elected, since then some 12 individuals seemingly have concentrated on self indulgence and done incredibly little to move Britain closer to the exit – especially when we are reliably informed they may well have each become Millionaires on the Gravy on that train for details CLICK HERE

When elected as Caesar’s wife to expose and clean up The Senate it ill becomes one to be serially caught turnning tricks behind the marble pillars AS HAVE EUkip.

Sir George Earle Bt said:
This election is the one and only chance our population will have of voting in any sort of referendum on the EU. END
Perhaps Sir George has accidentally struck upon the truth – he has shown that there is no responsible, honest party of probity, integrity and morality willing to campaign to leave the eU – other than for their own personal gain.

Sir George suggests elections should be treated as REFERENDUMS – I agree and as with ALL Referendums they are not there to elect politicians but to display preference of one idea over another.

Sir George has helped to prove that Politicians are untrustworthy, duplicitous, profligate, self interested and a venal group of little merit not to be trusted.

Thereforre Sir George will surely agree the only sensible idea is to cut these grubby self seekers out and just write, as in a Referendum, on YOUR Ballot:

LEAVE THE EU
Don’t waste YOUR vote on a Politician vote in the Referendum
Write:

LEAVE THE EU

Many of us still await Sir George’s querulous prediction of Oct-2005 – seemingly his last ‘active membership’ contribution in The Telegraph:

Sir – The fundamental differences between two groups of Conservative MEPs over membership of the EPP/ED group in the European Parliament (Letters, October 5) is no surprise.
Their party is in danger of splitting over “Europe”. Is this the start of it?
Sir George Earle Bt, Crediton, Devon

To view his last prediction CLICK HERE

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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