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Archive for March 2nd, 2009

#345* – ‘I want to belong to a party free of sleaze …’

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 02/03/2009

#345* – ‘I want to belong to a party free of sleaze …’

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

I want a party that is transparent, accountable and above-all honest, and in my view UKIP fails on all three counts!

Hi,

here is a copy of Robin Page’s letter of resignation sent, as I trailed, last Saturday (sorry I should have read it closer as I thought it was Friday!)

Robin Page resigned in writing to The Party’s unelected puppet Chairman Paul NuttAll and since Farage pulls his strings he sent a copy to Nigel Farage with a covering note:

“Nigel,
I’m genuinely sorry that you appear to have become a power-crazed, dishonest, pillock.
I hope you sort yourself out one day.

Robin”

28.2.2009

Dear Paul,

It is with huge regret that I am today resigning from my UKIP membership. I want to belong to a party free of sleaze, greed and corruption (in the true meaning of the word). UKIP is clearly no longer such a party. I want a party that is transparent, accountable and above-all honest, and in my view UKIP fails on all three counts.

The Party that was against centralised Government, the EU and troughing-it – has become a parody of itself – a mirror image of everything it supposedly despises. I can therefore have no further part of such an organisation. The party has been stolen from its grass-roots which is a tragedy. In my view ordinary decent people are being duped.

At the meeting at Ugley you stated that you would arrange a meeting between me and Nigel Farage – you have not done so. As you know Nigel has seriously misled me – “Robin your MEP selection is down to the Political Committee”. You informed the meeting at Ugley, Nigel is the Political Committee.

When and if UKIP cleans itself up – I will readily rejoin. Until that day I want nothing more to do with it apart from getting it to comply with the Data Protection Act. I understand that you will be hearing again from the Information Commissioner concerning your wilful disregard of the law in the near future. It is indeed ironic that following recent events UKIP has been complaining about breaches of Data Protection. A case of the “biter being bit”, it seems to me.

Yours sincerely,

Robin Page

Cc Nigel Farage

It is quite astonishing just how Farage has lived down to expectation.

I have stated for a dozen years that he was a good performing monkey and could count on my support in that role but due to the fact that he had absolutely no Gravitas, was no judge of character, was childishly impressed by status, could not keep his zipper under control, couldn’t hold his liquor, was imature, had not one iota of OQ or leadership ability and was no more that a failed City Barrow Boy he could count on my implacable opposition if he ever tried to seize the leadership of EUkip.

That he not only tried but colluded in lies, dishonesty, defamation, corruption and cheated and associated himself with the dregs of EUkip such as Denny, Croucher, Bannerman, Fuller and their ilk to achieve it made it doubly certain I was not prepared to sit back and let him befoul my Country’s reputation.

A ghastly, untrustworthy two bit oik, surrounded by kindred souls of no merit feeding like maggotas on the corpse of so many peoples’ hopes and hard work..

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#344* – EUkip HAS BEEN CORRUPTED

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 02/03/2009

#344* – EUkip HAS BEEN CORRUPTED

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

Ukip has been corrupted says Robin Page

The UK Independence Party has been corrupted by the high life on the euro gravy train and is run as the personal fiefdom of its leader Nigel Farage, a high-profile former member has claimed.

By Bruno Waterfield in Brussels

Last Updated: 10:27PM GMT 01 Mar 2009

Robin Page on ‘One Man and His Dog’ . Photo: Andrew Crowley
Robin Page, the Cambridgeshire farmer and presenter of One Man and His Dog, has resigned from Ukip amid bitter accusations of party mismanagement and a leadership cult.

Mr Page’s resignation, after he was prevented from standing as a UKIP candidate MEP for East Anglia, is a major setback for the Eurosceptic party ahead of European elections this summer.

“There are accusations of rigged internal elections, (NOT merely ‘accusations’ read EUkip’s own internal Report CLICK HERE G.L-W.) tales of extravagance and high living in Brussels and an embarrassing stampede to try to board the European gravy train this June,” he writes in The Daily Telegraph.

“In short, Ukip is in the process of imploding.”

Mr Page has accused Mr Farage, who he described as a “Blair-like, ex-public school leader”, of running Ukip as his personal party.

“Nigel Farage has managed to obtain almost complete centralised power of Ukip,” he wrote.

Perhaps most damagingly, Mr Page has accused Ukip of losing its way after its Euro-MPs jumped aboard the EU’s notorious pay and perks gravy train.

“Stories from Brussels suggest that Ukip’s MEPs have come to love the high life of gravy and status. The party created to fight centralised government, sleaze and corruption has become a parody of itself, a mirror image of the body it professes to loathe,” he said.

Mr Farage has accused Mr Page of not being able to “separate fact from fiction and disappointment from reality” after failing to submit his application to be an MEP.

“This diatribe seems to be laced with bitterness, inaccuracy and fantastical misinformation,” he said.

To view the original of this article in the Telegraph CLICK HERE

Has Nigel Farage EVER admitted responsibility for ANY of his actions – I very much doubt it, he is far too imature and irresponsible.

Perhaps Bruno Waterfield might like to mug up on the Facts shown in some 300 separate Blogs here – if he is unconvinced then just read the entries by The BFM, Douglas Deny, Mark Croucher, Joshua Onyons or a host of others sent in as aggresive, duplicitous, appologists for Farage on British Democracy Forum and the efforts made by its corrupt owner Anthony Butcher aided by the morally reprehensible Brendan Padmore or the lies of EUkip’s Chairman paul NuttAll to which they dance in order to suppress the truth about EUkip’s corruption, dishonesty, bullying and lies.

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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#343* – A PAGE TURNS (from Ooop North!)

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 02/03/2009

#343* – A PAGE TURNS (from Ooop North!)

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

The corruption of some of EUkip’s leadership
& NEC is what gives the remaining 10%
a bad name!

A PAGE TURNS (Nicked from Ooop North!)
A Blog by a friend whom I have read daily for many years.

A Page turns:

You have to give it to Robin Page – he has a wicked sense of humour. Thus, when he slides the stiletto deep into the heart of UKIP, he does it with style and an easy, jovial quip.

Page has, he writes “just helped the United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP).” He has jumped ship. “It is a small party,” he adds, “whose main wish at the moment seems to be a desire to become even smaller; so I did my bit and resigned.”

There then follows a familiar tale of skulduggery, sharp practice and bad faith that has become the hallmark of the UKIP hierarchy, one with which I am personally all too familiar – including the attempts after the event to re-write history to make what happened sound completely different from what actually transpired. In UKIP territory, the “victims” must be responsible for their own fate. The upper echelons of the party can do no wrong (see comment at the end of this).

In fact, Page points the finger at one man, Nigel Farage, who he accuses of having managed “to obtain almost complete centralised power of UKIP”. And, having watched the party closely for these past years – having devoted a great deal of my time and energy to its cause – I have no doubt that Page is absolutely right.

From the heady days when we first returned MEPs in the 1999 euro-elections, it looked as though we were on our way to becoming a force in the land. And if there was a single man responsible for that success (although it was the work of many), it was Nigel Farage.

But, before even before what appeared to be the massive breakthrough in 2004, when UKIP returned 12 MEPs with 2.7 million votes representing 16.8 percent of the vote, the rot was already eating away at the heart of the party. Since then, writes Page, Ukip’s 12 European parliamentarians have, by defection and expulsion, dropped to nine – and one has even left his constituency to live elsewhere, without telling his constituents. One has been to prison and one is still on police bail, awaiting the outcome of criminal investigations.

At the top of this dunghill is Nigel, a man who has cleaned out of the party anyone who came under the slightest suspicion of being a threat to him. But, having brought the first real success to the party, this is now the man who, almost single-handedly, has destroyed it.

Page might have articulated his disgust publicly, but there are many, many more people who share his views and who have walked away from the party and will have nothing to do with it.

The Tories have been quick to pick up Pages’ resignation statement and, no doubt, some are hoping that they will be the beneficiaries of the collapse of UKIP – and that it is.

It is unlikely, however, that the Tories gain any benefit whatsoever. As we pointed out earlier, the inheritors of the UKIP vote – and many more – will almost certainly be the BNP. That seems to be what Labour’s private polling is telling it.

We are thus looking a situation where the BNP will for the first time gain a number of MEPs. On the other hand, there is a very real prospect of a total wipe-out for UKIP. It could well lose all its MEPs, including its original three gained in 1999. That, if it happens – and it looks increasingly certain – will effectively mean the end of UKIP and the end of euroscepticism organised on a party basis. For that too, we will have to thank Farage.

But, as we also indicated earlier, that does not mean that euroscepticism will disappear. On the contrary, it will acquire a harder edge, carried along by parallel agendas which the establishment will not like. In the past, they have had great sport from UKIP, mocking and denigrating its members. Now the hard men are going to take over. They will not be mocked so easily – or at all.

Interestingly, on the front page of the Sunday Express yesterday, there was a story on a “MI5 alert” on the expected riots over the summer. That riots are expected is not news – we did it a little while ago. But what is new about the piece is a suggestion that the government is so concerned about the possible break-down of law and order that the Army has been put on standby.

This could very well be true. Recently, from a confidential source, I received information that the MoD was buying up unusually large quantities of tear gas and other riot equipment. Clearly, it has no intention of being caught out, as it was at the beginning of the Troubles, having to ration tear gas and riot shields. Maybe they might even find a use for all those Snatch Land Rovers, when they are returned from Iraq.

The implications of putting the Army on the streets, though, are horrendous. Currently, the Army is riding on the crest of a wave of public approval but, as it did in Northern Ireland, sentiment can very quickly turn. The ramifications for the campaign in Afghanistan might be significant. An Army which is sent out against its own people is not likely to attract much support for its other activities.

But there is not much prospect of the Army disobeying orders. As we saw in the 2001 Foot and Mouth epidemic, it went to work with a will, engaging in illegal activities, intimidating ordinary people and conspiring with the civil authorities to enforce false arrest. It will do so again if ordered, with the back-up this time of the Civil Contingencies Act which makes legal much of what was illegal back in 2001.

However (with the considerable assistance of Nigel Farage), having disposed of the “moderate” voice of protest – which UKIP largely represented – the establishment is going to discover once again a very simple and undeniable truth. There are more of us than there are of them – an awful lot more, and they haven’t ordered anything like enough tear gas.

They had their chance to listen to the voices of moderation – and they blew it. Now, altogether different voices are going to be heard. A Page has turned – in more than one way.

To view the original of this article CLICK HERE

TO LEAVE THE EU

What is the exit and survival plan for these United Kingdoms to maximise on the many benefits of leaving The EU. It is the DUTY of our Politicians and Snivil Cervants to ensure the continuity, liberty and right to self determination of our peoples they have a DUTY to protect against crime and secure both our food and our border.
NONE of these DUTIES has a single British politician upheld for 40 years. They have drawn their incomes fraudulently and dishonesty.

Politicians are failing to tell the truth, but so are almost all wanabe Politicians, the MSM and Snivil Cervants.

The fact is that even if EVERY British MEP wanted change in The EU it would achieve NOTHING.
Every single British Politician, of EVERY Party, elected since before we joined the EUropean Common Market, has promised to change The EU’s CAP – In 40 Years they have achieved absolutely NOTHING!

To try to put a value on OUR Freedom is as futile as floccipaucinihilipilification and as odious as the metissage of our societies, as we rummage in the ashes of our ancestors dreams, sacrifices and achievements, the flotsam of our hopes and the jetsam of our lives, consider the Country and Anglosphere which we leave our children and the future, with shame!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

PLEASE POST THIS TAG AS FOLLOWS:ON YOUR eMAILS & BLOGS, FORUM POSTINGS & MAILINGS – GET THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE IT IS OUR BEST HOPE AS WHOEVER IS APPOINTED WILL MAKE NO DIFFERENCE AS PROVED!

I SUGGEST – since there is clearly no political party of repute, advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign, democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country. Deny the self seeking & meaningless wanabe MEPs the Mythical Mandate for which they clamour. Diktat is imposed from The EU but Law should be made at Westminster, for our Country & our Peoples.

Write Upon Your Ballot Paper:

LEAVE THE EU

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