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#187* – Little BERTTIE HITT’s CONFESSIONS Of Support For Corruption

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 10/12/2008

#187* – Little BERTTIE HITT’s CONFESSIONS Of Support For Corruption

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

LITTLE BERTTIE HITT THROWS HIS TOYS OUT OF HIS PRAM WHEN CAUGHT OUT!

Hi,

an interesting letter has surfaced from Bert Hitt that throws much light on Our Article on this blog – interestingly a letter we have already published on this blog from Gollom shows that Bert Hitt is more than a little short of the truth – well lets be fair – Gulleford has supplied us with a letter from his office which indicates Ian Smith and little Berttie were not at the meeting for the reasons they pretend to!
From: Bert Hitt
40 Raven Close
Mildenhall
Bury St Edmunds
Suffolk
IP28 7LF

25th. November 2008

To: Mr D. Hudson
Newmarket,
Suffolk
CB8 0BS

Dear Dave

As myself and (George Hayes are Mildenhal Parish Councillors we have been heavily ,
involved on behalf of the public, opposing our Parish Council with our Registration Application of the Jubilee Field (Recreation Ground.), to prevent a car park being built on it to enable Sainsburys to build a Supermarket in Mildenhall. Naturally our registration under the Commons Act 2006 has been opposed by the Parish Council and Sainsburys, this has incurred us a considerable amount of hours preparing our case replying to opposition statements for what looks like a public hearing.

Isn’t this what Parish Councillors do? I’m not sure why he is complaining – surely EUkip warned him he might have to do a few hours of work if he was one of the very few EUkip chappies elected.

Sorry I am clearly missing something.

As EUkip councillors this has raised our personal profile considerably with the local electorate through a lot of publicity in the papers, Cllr Ian Smith has achieved the same on Lakenheath Parish Council, but we are fed up with the in house differences becoming negative publicity and destroying the good things we do and loosing the support we need in the ballot box
Then surely perhaps you should as such clearly important people do something to clean up the dishonesty in EUkip and YOUR region in particular. May I suggest you learn the facts not just the untrue spin.

Start by reading the Returning Officer’s 9 page OFFICIAL report on the corruption, particularly in the Eastern Region the full text can be found here

The last straw was reading the article in the East Anglian Daily Times on l7th July 2008 headed “UKIP man is quizzed in finance investigation” against Jeffrey Titford and Stuart Gulleford having been triggered by a fellow UKIP member John West who had failed to be-selected as an MEP for EUkip.

I agree totally – that EUkip faiiled to respond to correct the issue when it was passed on by John West to the relevant officer in EUkip who did absolutely NOTHING to rectify the corruption left John West in the embarrassing position that either he acquitted his Civic Duty (something that you as a Councillor would I presume uphold) or colluded in a crime after the event which is a criminal action!

What would YOU have done – especially as a responsible EUkip member and an elected Councillor – before we hear more criticism your answer would be appreciated. Would you have acted honestly or in a criminal manner?

Your grubby little inuendo that John West acted BECAUSE he was not selected is a lie – I have details of correspondence back to October LAST YEAR showing he was taking actions to clean up EUkip.

Further you will be aware that Titford & the ghastly Gulleford were using EUkip money to directly corrupt the selection process back in February this year.

May I suggest you check your facts in future like a good little parish councillor as it besmirches your civic office to bear false witness.

I like others felt this was a deplorably damaging act by going to the police in the first place with an alleged claim with no proof causing it to become public knowledge. I understand the police have found nothing illegal and have since dropped the case.

You may well ‘understand’ the police have found nothing illegal and you may ‘understand’ they have since dropped the cases – the difference is I KNOW you are wrong and I wonder who fed you the ‘understanding’, if you tried to keep up with the facts rather than publish the spin – you would have read the FACTS on this blog.
It appears to me that little Johnny West had ambitious desires beyond his ability and throws the toys out of his pram when he doesn’t get what he wants, clearly he had very little qualifications to offer compared to the others, he appears to have a strong willed wife beside him when he needs to drive his car to his part-time job if he has one.

Well little Berttie Werttie Hittie Wittie rather than try to belittle an honest man who has done something that took courage I do not have any reason to believe you might have let us see if you are man enough to make an open and public apology for your underhand behaviour.

Let us consider that John West has the great good fortune of a strong willed and competent wife – is it jealousy that you have a dull meatball as a wife that leads you to insult another man’s wife, or are you like the lead candidate in the region unable/unfit to drive AND without a wife.

What are the great qualifications YOU have to offer that you are just a footling little parish councillor! What qualifications has the liar, fraud and cheat Bannerman to offer as an unmarried serial failure in the Tory party without social graces or confidence a dull speaker who can’t even get a job without telling lies about his utterly irrelevant ancestry. A little chappie who hasn’t had a proper job for years and lives in a little flat in Acton between two railway lines. A man who has sold out ALL his principles and has taken The EU’s 30 pieces of silver as an employee!

Perhaps we should consider Michael McGough’s qualifications since he lied to his associates and was happy to cheat his friends to gain prefferment in the selection process and hustings.

Would you rather consider Andrew Smith whose total lack of professionalism as an accountant and irresponsibility has landed EUkip with a Guilty verdict in the Courts and still might, subject to Judicial Review coast EUkip between £1/2 & 1 Million.

Or the qualifications of the bullying buffoon Stuart Agnew who considers the position is his by right as he has effectively bought it.

Let us see if you are man enough to apologise for your outrageous and gratuitous misrepresentation of John West.

Be minded that John West out of loyalty to UKIP and his principles not only organised two conferences for the party despite attempts of the dishonest like Gulleford & Titford to sabotage them!! He also was willing to put up his and his wife’s money to gain experience and raise his profile for The General Election by hopefully getting a foot on the selection ladder.

He did not expect to be cheated and was happy to lose fairly, but with little Berttie Werttie corrupting the elections with other cheats and with EUkip willing to sponsor criminality being an honest man he stood little chance.

As chairman of the West Suffolk Branch on which I am supposed to be secretary, none of us have heard much from you this year with no meetings – its up to the chairman to arrange them not the secretary.

As an elected member of a team you would seem to have abrogated on your duty in that team and now, rather late in the day, seek to pass the blame to your elected colleague. As a councillor even if only of some footling parish council you will be aware such offices are a matter of teamwork – what did YOU do to inculcate meetings? Also you may not have noticed having clearly never done anything serious or responsible in life and clearly nothing honest – it is the norm that The Chairman & Secretary agree the detail and the Secretary effects the functionary duty of organisation.

Recently you phoned me to tell me about a group of chairmen of branches had got together and formed this Nemarket Declaration Group to challenge the judgement of the Selection Committee, I immediately asked you if this had anything to do with John West, if so, I was opposed to it. ‘The impression I got was that you are one of the ringleaders and had voted on behalf of the branch without calling a meeting which upset Ian and George when I told them.

Oh so you prejudged the meeting with what you now show to have been a total lack of factual knowledge – then rather than meet with your Chairman you set out to ferment trouble behind his back – is this YOUR normal standard of integrity and loyalty?
At your invitation, myself and Ian attended the meeting of your group at the Palomino PH in Newmarket on 27th. October 08, Martin Harvey was in the chair with 20 present, a leaflet of various emails was passed around relating to the issue, we listened for about 20 minutes before Ian asked a couple of reasonable questions, but from the answers and previous
You will of course remeber that I have already warned you that I have a letter from the ghastly Gollom that would seem to give the lie to this claim.

May I point out that having already decided, before coming, that you were opposed and having admitted you orchestrated opposition with no knowledge of the facts you woul of course, as Ian Smith’s second, claim the pre-rehearsed plan was ‘reasonable’

comments from the assembled gable of trouble causers our opinions were unchanged and we got up to leave expressing our views that John West’s actions had damaged the party, despite pleading with us to stay by you and others we left.
So you did scuttle off like rats with your tails between your legs having failed to appraise yourselves of the facts – no doubt Gollom was pleased.
A couple of days later I received a copy of Greg Lance-Watkins website relating to this meeting which as far as I understand was not there, he claimed we were plants which was totally untrue and went on with a load of verbal diarrhoea of name calling claiming we scuttled out like rats with our tails between our legs – utter rubbish.
Which part of my blog did you have a problem understanding? What substantive aspect oif my Blog did you disagree with? What facts do you have to support your accusations?
He further went on claiming Ian’s response on leaving gave the impression he was an expert on MI5 and supported by me as being lack lustre and hapless ,
Is it your contention, against all the evidence, that Ian Smith did NOT claim that I was MI5 and state this is how they operate, making something of a pratt of himself, talking about a subject he knows nothing of save titbits of hear say and what he has read in comics.
Do you feel it was unfair to describe your performance as lacklustre and hapless – if so on what grounds would you claim it was bravura since you convinced abolutely no one and clearly learned little or even nothing?
it can only be assume the ill informed imbecile was himself, l must assume you agree with this rubbish, but which one of 2 fed it to Watkins ?
On what you base you insults one wonders since fact, the truth and yourself seem to be strangers. by what license do you seek to demean my name Berttie old Twit?
We felt this group of yours has gone too far in defending a bad looser when clearly there are no grounds for redress against the Selection Committee, the effects of which have ripped UKIP apart in East Anglia and its culprits must be removed from the party, unfortunately little Johnny West who is dangerous, has little to loose in court apart from his own unfilled ambitions.
So it is your contentionlittle Berttie that EUkip should be the sort of party which stands back and tries to kick an honest man of principle whilst supporting liars, frauds, cheats and nere do wells – May I once again admoonish you to try to get a grip of the facts and read The Returning Officer’s Report for a starter.

You will note that of the well over 175 postings in this CaterpillarsAndButterflies series there is not a single solitary one which is sufficiently inaccurate that EUkip believe that they can demand I correct it – such that being dishonest cowards they act in an underhand manner and threaten the weak and those without morality or understandings of ethics to prevent publication of the truth as with the weak and cowardly Anthony Butcher who seemingly will do anything to assist Farage and his corrupt associates – much, it seems, as would you little Berttie.

I therefore feel I can no longer work with you and wish to resign from the West Suffolk Branch and as Secretary, also as a 5yr membership with 4 yrs to run I am reconsidering my future support for the party if positive action is not immediately taken against these infighting trouble causers, – life is difficult enough without it. I can assure you other members of the branch share the same opinion.
You may well have heard that a major part of the exposure of corruption and dishonesty in EUkip is that a few honest folk are trying to clean up EUkip to restore UKIP to its members, rid of the rotten head that is the leadership and NEC. The aim is to either make UKIP electable once more, fit for men and women of integrity to support without prostituting their principles and morality or to ensure that NO ONE from EUkip is elected EVER again.

If it is your determinance to continue to support corruption and the lies of EUkip then may I suggest your resignation might well be an intelligent act towards cleaning up EUkip.

Yours sincerely
Bert Hitt.

c.c Jeffrey TitfordlStuart Gulleford.
c.c Peter Reeve

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#186* – ARNOTT – Were He The Hon. One Might Understand!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 10/12/2008

#186* – ARNOTT – Were He The Hon. One Might Understand!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

WHEN YOU FIND A WEAK LINK IN A CHAIN BEST TO CHECK THE CHAIN!

Hi,

in a period of weak or near non existent leadership weak and self seeking men invariably rise. So also do those of little merit.

It is a time at which to keep a more carefull eye out than in normal times.

Aware that as a weak leader with no visible ability, as shown by the results since he dishonestly seized the leadership of EUkip, Farage has had an almost childish preoccupation with title. Farage’s insecurity has been a driving force for EUkip for many years.

We all remember the catastrophy of The Hon. Stephen Sobey Neville who so easily duped Farage as a plant from Tory Central Office. Realising this incompetence in Farage and is abject failure in man management and value judgement one need only look briefly at EUkip.

Just what skill or value that enhances EUkip, for instance, does someone like Paul NuttAll bring to EUkip, or the fool Reeve, where can EUkip gain from such as Lisa Duffy, Oxley, Ma Zucherman, the pathetic little Denny what competences – what abilities – what skills, what gravitas.

I can see NONE – so let us look at Jonathan Arnott:


This little lad’s CV reads:

At the 2008 UK Independence Party Conference, Jonathan was appointed as the new UK Independence Party General Secretary, and was featured on BBC1’s The Politics Show in September 2008.

A sad reflection that he sees himself as featured rather than EUkip whom he represented!

One starts to wonder how this sad and slightly phoney chap has risen from nowhere to relative obscurity with such inexperience.

So one digs a little deeper.

Jonathan gained a Master’s Degree in Mathematics from Sheffield University at age 19.

So being 27 he was 19 in in 2000 when he earned his MA – a little strange that Sheffield is offering a Scottish qualification as surely the basic degree for a mathematician in English Universities it being a science not an art would be a BSc – wouldn’t it.

A little confused Sheffield Uni. on 0114 – 222 2000 confirmed the Mathematics qualification is a BSc and only one Arnott shows up on the computer forename Jonathan who ‘applied’ in 1996 but does not seem to have either attended or obtained a degree from the University.

From 2000 to 2008, he worked as a Mathematics teacher at Handsworth Christian School in Sheffield, and was Head Of Mathematics from 2006.

Interestingly, grand as this sounds Hansworth Christian School has 135 pupils aged 4-16 – one wonders howmany qualified mathematicians are on the staff he headed!

He has also worked part-time for Yorkshire’s UK Independence Party MEP Godfrey Bloom as a political researcher since 2004. He was appointed as UKIP’s Local Elections co-ordinator in 2005 and became responsible for UKIP’s local campaigns nationwide. He co-authored UKIP’s national Manifesto for the local elections in 2006, 2007 and 2008.

Similarly it would seem that with various co-authors and co-ordinators of EUkip’s local election efforts, there were more staff than achievements!

I guess the results speak volumes of his ability – it would seem that there is every possibility that no one in EUkip, with their normal professionalism, has checked his CV & referrences.

With the likes of the liar Michael McGough willing to cheat his friends, David Bannerman whose CV and identity are a tissue of fantasies, Stephen Sobey’s elaborate hoax and others of a similar nature Jonathan Arnott will not be the first fraud should my rudimentary check done with only one phone call, prove accurate.

I make no claim of veracity in my comment but as I have stated – reason to be suspicious.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#185* – BUTCHER & PADMORE’s DISHONESTY Catching Up With Them!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 09/12/2008

#185* – BUTCHER & PADMORE’s DISHONESTY Catching Up With Them!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

THE DISHONESTY OF BUTCHER’S FORUM & BRENDAN PADMORE IS CATCHING UP FAST!

Hi,

I noted that one of the political bloggers had the measure of Anthony Butcher and his pro EUkip Forum exposed for what they are rather quickly!

Tuesday, December 9, 2008

GL-W Banned From British Democracy Forum

Well, the inevitable day has arrived.

GL-W has been banned from the formerly known UKIP Forum (now called the British Democracy Forum) for allegedly reporting an accusation of assault against a Party member, having been advised by the victim that this was so.

Rather than contact the alleged victim, The Forum Moderators contacted UKIP who apparently told them there was no truth in this allegation.

Seems odd to us that the Moderators did not contact the ‘victim’ – after all he should know, shouldn’t he?

It has been apparent for some 2 weeks that the Moderators were looking for an excuse (in our opinion) to eject GL-W as many of his posts had been withdrawn or ‘cut’, while others who said most distasteful things about GL-W and his family were allowed to keep their posts alive, and in some cases were re-iterrated by other members.

HARDLY A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD – We Think.

We have been suspicious for some time that The BD Forum has cosied up to UKIP either out of fear or favour – we genuinely do not know which.

However, one thing is certain, without GL-W the BD Forum will be a less interesting place. It’s now up to Junius to keep us all fascinated.

We have just one question at this point – if the alleged victim comes up with an ‘incident number’ for the reported offence, will the Moderators and Anthony Butcher apologise to GL-W and allow him to return?
Posted by Political Gossip UK at 5:57 PM 1 comments John West said…
Hello. I have been informed that comments have been made by Greg Lance-Watkins on the British Democracy Forum. These comments concern Peter Reeve and have led to Mr Lance-Watkins being banned from the Forum.

In the interests of fairness I can confirm that I have made a complaint to the police about Mr Reeve.

However, this is all that I am prepared to say at the present time.
December 9, 2008 6:55 PM
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So let us state it one more time for those too thick to check the facts and too quick to judge:
Peter Reeve EUkip’s already discreditted BNP styled Regional Organiser committed the criminal offence of Common Assault on a member of EUkip elected by the members to the NEC, elected as a Branch Chairman and elected by the members as a PPC.
EUkip or/and Peter Reeve lied about this event.
The event was witnessed by at least one other Branch Chairman, who likened it to the shaven headed bully boys of The BNP.
Brendan Padmore on the instructions of EUkip having failed to check facts honestly banned G.L-W. indeffinitely from Democracy Forum a corrupt and dishonest decision upheld by Anthony Butcher – in keeping with his natural weak lack of integrity or morality, frequently displayed.

I wonder if EUkip’s puppets on Democracy Forum will ban all EUkip spokesmen for having directly lied without any corroboration or fact!

Nice as it is to be vindicated so soon I shall not be expecting Butcher or Padmore to act as Gentlemen and apologise for their corrupt behaviour in banning me without ANY valid grounds – merely a false speculation that led to their gleeful over excitement – too busy seeking support for their self interests than that which might have been seemly!

It would have been interesting to see if they had the integrity to apologise and the courage to reinstate me ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD but judging by previous experience of these sad little folk don’t hold your breath – they are far more likely to show their dishonesty by trying to cover-up their corruption.

I can at least respect men but the weak and the cowardly are contemptible, cheats beneath contempt – brave in their obscurity and too stupid to have self respect. (What’s to respect!)

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#184* – BUTCHER’S FORUM BACKS EUkip & Reeve’s Lies

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 09/12/2008

#184* – BUTCHER’S FORUM BACKS EUkip & Reeve’s Lies

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

MORE EVIDENCE OF EUkip’s

This is merely the response and reply to the comments made in the earlier article regarding the Forum managed by Anthony Butcher, which has consistently been proven to be unfair and corruptly biased in favour of EUkip and dishonesty – never having the morallity to censor lies and attacks on those who oppose the corruption and seek to clean up EUkip.

Not only are the lies and attacks of Bob Feel Martiniz left in place but statements of fact regarding Michael McGough are removed, thereby adding credibility to his distortions of truth. Anthony Butcher has consistently shown his ability clerically but he and certain of his Moderators would be unlikely to recognise ethical behaviour or fair play if it bit them.

You will note the attack made on the statements of fact I had made in the earlier article
and my reply here is the rather sad reflection on little Anthony’s Forum in their reply:

QUOTE Brendan PADMORE titled B.A.Ware!
Greg your original post was deleted and your new thread has been moved to the moderator’s section (not by myself) You have not produced any substantive evidence that your accusation against Peter is true and you have not retracted your statement (I am assured the police have confirmed that no complaint has been made)

You have until 5pm to substantiate or retract your statement.
Thanks Brendan

Clearly he has not read my reply. Further we note that he fails to state who gave him the assurance – would they even know, and if so how! He is clearly unable to provide substantive proof merely some hear say, without fact or detail. He does not even state which police have been approached or by whom for this so called ‘assurance’ nor who the ‘assurer’ is!

This is however sadly the standard to which this Forum has sunk. Yet those he accuses of being a liar he expects to provide his arbitrary levels of provenance when EUkip can substantiate NOTHING – merely repeating lies and weenie waggling – sadly this intimidates and misleads the weak!

My reply to Padmore’s contentious response is:

No wonder you wish to run this as a kangaroo court behind closed doors. I also would wish to conduct a dishonest attack in such a way if I was too ashamed to make it public. I have provided a factual reply yet you in shame remove it from the public domain.

I have answered your initail false allegations against me in detail. May I ask why you see fit to libel me by your clear implication that I have lied?

Your initial contact on this matter was ill mannered and accusatory based on absolutely no fact – merely an aggressive accusation. I note that as ever instead of words like ‘please’ and ‘thank you’ and common good manners you escalate to ill mannered aggression. Similar in style to most of your postings on the forum where if you can escalate any conversation with me to comply with your ill founded aggression and ill manners you seem not to avoid your self indulgence.

I have provided you with fact – make up your mind whether you are calling me a liar and if so be man enough to do so in public IN FULL, not skulking in secret ashamed of your behaviour.
I have as you note stated I apologise if I have been lied to which I have no reason to believe I have.
Brendan you have already stated you find the task of Moderator difficult – I am not surprised!
I am assured that Peter Reeve

committed an act of common assault and a complaint has been made to the Police by the victim of the assault with 2 or more witness statements.

May I ask why you see fit to accuse me of having lied?

No wonder you do so in private – yet you take the word of EUkip who have proved repeatedly to be liars.

Quit stalking me – withdraw your accusation and act with some integrity, implementing a level playing field OR PUBLISH the fact that liars from EUkip will be supported and fact with detail will be penalised and those publishing fact will be attacked by moderators acting for EUkip who will be favoured with endless repetitive propaganda ad naseam on RSS feeds from official and unofficial web sites.

I look forward to your apology for your implication that I have lied and the fact that you have dishonestly chosen to overlook the very clear caveat and apology I made.

I trust you will be ensuring that Peter Reeve and EUkip can provide proof of their statement which I believe to be wrong, withing less than 12 hours or will you have no choice but to ban EUkip and cut all their propaganda feeds.

It is clear that Butcher and his crew are being manouvered and shown to be the weak and foolish asses they are – way out of their depth ethically and morally willing to buckle to sabre rattling of liars, cheats and bullies which is all that EUkip’s leadership and NEC seem to be made up of at the moment.

How pathetic.
G.L-W.

Is it any wonder they wish to conduct their behaviour privately, when they are so clearly dishonest and corrupt!

This is just more witness intimidation by EUkip and I will publish the Police Number when it is issued – I understand witness statements are likely to be made this Friday. I understand one witness commented that it was just what he would have expected at a BNP meeting – ‘some shaven headed thug seeking to manhandle and intimidate people!’
How right he was in his description of the new unarguably corrupt EUkip.

My ‘opinion’ of the probable outcome is an official caution for EUkip’s Regional Organiser Peter Reeve for Common Assault.

This however is a recordable criminal issue and one wonders what reaction The EU and OLAF will make of one of its employees acting in this manner at a political promotional meeting. Esspecially since The Cambridge Evening Post (?) has agreed to feature the story when it comes to fruition.

I wonder what The EU will make of their staff member Bannerman when they discover he is a fraud a liar and a cheat!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#186* – Were He The Hon. One Might Understand!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 09/12/2008

#186* – Were He The Hon. One Might Understand!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

WHEN YOU FIND A WEAK LINK IN A CHAIN BEST TO CHECK THE CHAIN!

Hi,

in a period of weak or near non existent leadership weak and serlf seeking men invariably rise. So also do those of little merit.

It is a time at which to keep a more carefull eye out than in normal times.

Aware that as a weak leader with no visible ability, as shown by the results since he dishonestly seized the leadership of EUkip, Farage has had an almost childish preoccupation with title. Farage’s insecurity has been a driving force for EUkip for many years.

We all remember the catastrophy of The Hon. Stephen Sobey Neville who so easily duped Farage as a plant from Tory Central Office. Realising this incompetence in Farage and is abject failure in man management and value judgement one need only look briefly at EUkip.

Just what skill or value that enhances EUkip, for instance, does someone like Paul NuttAll bring to EUkip, or the fool Reeve, where can EUkip gain from such as Lisa Duffy, Oxley, Ma Zucherman, the pathetic little Denny what competences – what abilities – what skills, what gravitas.

I can see NONE – so let us look at Jonathan Arnott:


This little lad’s CV reads:

At the 2008 UK Independence Party Conference, Jonathan was appointed as the new UK Independence Party General Secretary, and was featured on BBC1’s The Politics Show in September 2008.

A sad reflection that he sees himself as featured rather than EUkip whom he represented!

One starts to wonder how this sad and slightly phoney chap has risen from nowhere to relative obscurity with such inexperience.

So one digs a little deeper.

Jonathan gained a Master’s Degree in Mathematics from Sheffield University at age 19.

So being 27 he was 19 in in 2000 when he earned his MA – a little strange that Sheffield is offering a Scottish qualification as surely the basic degree for a mathematician in English Universities it being a science not an art would be a BSc – wouldn’t it.

A little confused Sheffield Uni. on 0114 – 222 2000 confirmed the Mathematics qualification is a BSc and only one Arnott shows up on the computer forename Jonathan who ‘applied’ in 1996 but does not seem to have either attended or obtained a degree from the University.

From 2000 to 2008, he worked as a Mathematics teacher at Handsworth Christian School in Sheffield, and was Head Of Mathematics from 2006.

Interestingly, grand as this sounds Hansworth Christian School has 135 pupils aged 4-16 – one wonders howmany qualified mathematicians are on the staff he headed!

He has also worked part-time for Yorkshire’s UK Independence Party MEP Godfrey Bloom as a political researcher since 2004. He was appointed as UKIP’s Local Elections co-ordinator in 2005 and became responsible for UKIP’s local campaigns nationwide. He co-authored UKIP’s national Manifesto for the local elections in 2006, 2007 and 2008.

Similarly it would seem that with various co-authors and co-ordinators of EUkip’s local election efforts, there were more staff than achievements!

I guess the results speak volumes of his ability – it would seem that there is every possibility that no one in EUkip, with their normal professionalism, has checked his CV & referrences.

With the likes of the liar Michael McGough willing to cheat his friends, David Bannerman whose CV and identity are a tissue of fantasies, Stephen Sobey’s elaborate hoax and others of a similar nature Jonathan Arnott will not be the first fraud should my rudimentary check done with only one phone call, prove accurate.

I make no claim of veracity in my comment but as I have stated – reason to be suspicious.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#183* – EUkip COMMON ASSAULT by PETER REEVE

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 09/12/2008

#183* – EUkip COMMON ASSAULT by PETER REEVE

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

MORE EVIDENCE OF EUkip’s MISMANAGEMENT.

Hi,

At a rather squalid little EUkip meeting with not a single speaker worth listening to as most were self seeking and inconsequential and the best EUkip could field was the totally discreditted David the desk Bannerman – who has proved he can not be trusted on virtually any subject – the man works for the EU and is a liar and a cheat, all too willing to pretend he is someone he isn’t for personal gain.

John West a hard working and dedicated UKIP supporter who was elected by members in the Eastern Region as a Branch Secretary in oone area, branch chairman in another and both he and his wife had willingly put up their own money having been voted in as PPCs in their individual rights.

John West had also offered his time as an NEC member and had been elected by the members. You may recall that John West had organised 2 full day subject conferences for EUkip.

Many will also be aware that this was despite sabotage attempts by Titford, who sadly seems to have early onset dimentia I hear, and Gulleford who has for so long promoted himself for personal gain, in the eurosceptic world at any cost but limited, even invisible, results!

At the meeting on the 29th. November where only some 28 members attended besides those who were organising or makeweights John West was the victim of a low level common assault with sound witnesses present, but in view of the efforts of EUkip to intimidate John West as a witness this is just another in a long list of dishonest, underhand and cowardly efforts to intimidate him as a witness in various upcoming court actions.

EUkip are so stupid that they seem not to understand their efforts are merely strengthenning the resolve of those seeking to clean up EUkip. Yes John West has stated that he has made an official complaint to the police – naming his witnesses and I believe providing relevant statements.

This must be seen in this light as Peter Reeve merely slots into a predictable norm!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#182* – EUkip Has A Rally!!! 29-Nov-08

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 09/12/2008

#182* – EUkip Has A Rally!!! 29-Nov-08

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

EUkip’s Failing Structure – NO LEADERSHIP!

Hi,

On the 29th. November 2008 EUkip held a major Saturday Rally to try to launch and promote its pretence to campaign for the EU elections in June 2009.

EUkip had had a major launch as Capel St. Mary for its so called deputy David Bannerman who now works for the EU, in direct conflict with his aims and claims as deputy leader of EUkip – Gone Native springs to mind – like Marta Andreassen I gather his CV also left out various material facts! Clearly both are discreditted cheats.
The Capel St. Mary launch, after widespread advertising, extensive leafletting and a great deal of promotion was hardly a run away success – well who would cross the road to listen to the cheat and liar Bannerman? Well to be fair we understand 12 people were that gullible but we do not know if that included Bannerman himself and/or the discreditted failure and outgoing Regional Organiser Peter Reeve who has been deselected or whatever by several Constituency Branches.
The meeting on the 29th.
ran to an hour of drinking in the bar starting at 12.00 branded ‘networking’.
The meeting strted at 13.00hrs. after being introduced by the coward, liar and cheat George CurtisCurtis is all too happy to blacken anyone’s name as long as it never surfaces he is the diashonest coward who provides the lies required. He is seen by most members in the region as treacherous and completely untrustworthy out of touch with the members but propped up by a clique of corrupt assosciates like Smith & McGough on a reciprocity of dishonesty.
The Aims for the day were rather fuzzily put forward by Peter Reeve

Reeve is fast loosing any credibility despite having a patron on the NEC propped up as a gofer for his friend and look alike with his shaven headed bully boy look.

The next 45 minutes were rivetting Ken Irvine spoke about the EU elections based no doubt on his extensive knowledge! We have yet to learn anything of the vision, strategy, tactics or training for candidates.

Furthermore since the selection process has been pronounced as corrupt and the EUkip Returning Officer’s report, featured on this blog, shows that the entire process was corrupt – corrupted by the lies and dishonesty of Bannerman, Tirford, Gollom, McGough and others leading to the unequivocal verdict from the RO in his official report that the outcome was invalid and the process should be run again by a trustworthy external third party organisation.

That the liars, bullies and cheats are still fighting against the truth is no surprise.

End of the session 45 minutes down and a break already – are we talking here of the challenged prostates of the elderly supporters or the attention span of the others!

Then we have Steve Allison telling all how to win at local elections WOW that must have been gripping! Nice enough chappie but you may recal he presided over the catastrophy last local elections where EUkip managed to get less councillors elected out of the 19,500 electable seats LESS than the 7 elected by Kernow, the extremist Cornish group!

Did he tell everyone present everything he knew 22 times or stretch out his 2 minutes of knowledge – one can only judge by the results – especially when you realise political nebishes like Bert Hitt & Ian Smith see themselves as consequential on the grounds of being PARISH councillors!! I guess they are when you judge by EUkip results in local elections under Steve Allison!

At 15.00hrs. the audience was embarrassed for 45 minutes by the foul language of some ghastly female, Bridget Rowe whose language brings EUkip into disrepute. Even her pretend interview with the discreditted liar & cheat McGough was an embarrassment.

Yet more break and on to 45 minutes from For EUkip members to be subjected to 45 minutes of the outpourings of this sad and dishonest little man is an insult to decent people – he is a fraud and a cheat willing to cheat his friends, and betray his party bringing it into disrepute!

No wonder there were only 28 people present, not including staff, sychophants and speakers.

No doubt it was frustration at yet another abject failure that led Peter Reeve to commit an act of Common Assault on John West to take him outside in a manner that led the witnesses to believe the act was threatening, belligerant and aggressive. That a witness told me about the assault within hours and when I phoned John West he informed me he had been promised 2 or 3 witness statements and would report the matter to the police for investigation.

Another catastrophic EUkip event that did more damage than good!

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#181* – EUkip’s Methods To Suppress The Truth

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 09/12/2008

#181* – EUkip’s Methods To Suppress The Truth

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

MORE EVIDENCE OF EUkip’s Methods of
Suppressing The Truth

Quote:
Originally Posted by B.A.Ware [Brendan Padmore]
http://www.democracyforum.co.uk

Greg you made the following post on 04-12-2008, 04:24 PM

Quote G.L-W.:
I presume that he is commenting on the meeting where the utterly discreditted BNP look alike Peter Reeve was witnessed in an act of common assault and is now under investigation by the police.
END Quote of G.L-W.

You have made a serious allegation in that Peter Reeve has committed an act of common assault and is under police investigation for this assault.

It has been brought to the moderator’s attention that this is completely false and no such investigation has taken place.

I’m sure you are aware that it is quite a serious accusation to accuse someone of criminal activity I’m also sure you are aware we have been encouraging members to be careful with their posts and have been actively moderating potential libellous posts that could drag the forum into any legal situations.

You have already received several warnings concerning the contents of your posts so I must ask you to either post a retraction and apology for your allegation or provide substantive proof of this allegation to either myself or another forum moderator, if this proof or retraction is not received within the next 24 hours I’m afraid you leave me no opportunity to ban you from posting here.
Brendan

Oh sorry,

I overlooked the fact that you permit lies dishonesty, slurs and attacks on me with monotonous regularity yet expect chapter and verse detailed back up of my every statement.

When will all the moderators on the Democracy Forum – previously The UKIPForum – be playing on a level playing field?

When FACTS are provided and material comments are snipped perhaps you can justify why I having provided provenance get facts cut.

However to deal with your latest spurious and vexatious complaint:

Quote:
Originally Posted by B.A.Ware
Greg you made the following post on 04-12-2008, 04:24 PM

Do you happen to know on which thread so that I can read it in context?

Quote:
Originally Posted by B.A.Ware
Quote:
I presume that he is commenting on the meeting where the utterly discreditted BNP look alike Peter Reeve was witnessed in an act of common assault and is now under investigation by the police.

I understand this to be a true and accurate statement of fact.

If Reeve has a problem with this statement of fact and is serious about complaint he has my phone mumber and my address, he can contact me, direct or he can have his solicitor contact me.

Clearly he is using deliberate vexatious methods or someone who has no knowledge of the facts is acting vexatiously without knowledge and similarly they were in a position to clarify the facts directly with me themselves or via their lawyers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by B.A.Ware
You have made a serious allegation in that Peter Reeve has committed an act of common assault and is under police investigation for this assault.

Correct as I understand he is – though he may not as yet be aware of the facts.

Quote:
Originally Posted by B.A.Ware
It has been brought to the moderator’s attention that this is completely false and no such investigation has taken place.

No sir it has not – please do not misrepresent the facts.

It may well have been CLAIMED that the facts differ from those I have stated. Since NEVER ONCE has a matter of substantive complaint been upheld against me yet EUkip has been shown to be duplicitous, dishonest, corrupt and bullying may I point out that I have no need of further provenance whereas the complainant has every need.

Quote:
Originally Posted by B.A.Ware
I’m sure you are aware that it is quite a serious accusation to accuse someone of criminal activity

Of course I am aware of that, clearly I would not have made the statement of fact had I had doubt of its factual veracity.

Quote:
Originally Posted by B.A.Ware
I’m also sure you are aware we have been encouraging members to be careful with their posts and have been actively moderating potential libellous posts that could drag the forum into any legal situations.

I have been careful with every post I have ever made and would not dream of wittingly libelling anyone and I resent the inferrence that I might be cavalier with either my reputation of that of the Forum.

Quote:
Originally Posted by B.A.Ware
You have already received several warnings concerning the contents of your posts

Yes and you will note not a single posting of mine has been upheld as inaccurate in any substantial way.

You will also realise such complaints as there have been have been based on retrospective implimentation of newly invented rules! Seemingly designed to suppress the truth about EUkip’s dishonesty, corruption and style & or the exposure of facts about its leadership.

Quote:
Originally Posted by B.A.Ware
so I must ask you to either post a retraction and apology for your allegation or provide substantive proof of this allegation to either myself or another forum moderator,

I trust the facts led are addequate.

Should they be inadequate to Reeve he has perfectly acceptable recourse under law, which he would be ill advised to utilise as I will substantiate any false allegations he may make in said Court of law.

Reeve has NOT been libeled as statement of a fact can not be a libel. – Perhaps the reason that complaint has been lodged with yourselves rather than by due process.

Quote:
Originally Posted by B.A.Ware
if this proof or retraction is not received within the next 24 hours I’m afraid you leave me no opportunity to ban you from posting here.

Brendan:

This is clearly not a true statement – you have every choice.

Just as a choice has been made in moderation to permit gratuitous attacks upon me yet penalise established facts, when I make them.

Perhaps you should point out to your complainant that I have a 100% record of NEVER making a libelous statement on your forum. If you choose to dishonestly remove me there is little I can do to prevent you – I appreciate you have a problem moderating, which is the easiest of jobs if you maintain a level playing field but a nightmare if you become embroilled in dissent.

For details of common assault I refer you to the relevant police station where complaints have been lodged and to the victim of the common assault and the witnesses. IF Peter Reeve is an honest man, which I very much doubt, he will be able to confirm the matter for you shortly.If those who have informed me that they witnessed the common assault have misled me I apologise for relaying the facts as stated to me as fact from a public meeting where Peter Reeve was seen to have committed an act of common assault against a member.

No doubt time will be the arbitter of these facts.I wonder also since you gave me 24 hours to respond if you would advise when you will be dealing with the numerous comments I have made under the green button complaint system or is that also a one way street?

Should Peter Reeve feel he has a legitimate complaint against me for having made public his common assault – providing the minimum detaisl of the factual even I feel sure he would utilise his solicitors – however since this complaint is not founded on substance merely vexatious bullying which has become EUkip’s style I doubt I shall hear further of his unsubstantiated claim that he did not commit common assault.

What are YOUR constructive suggestions Please be aware that EUkip and its executive staff have a track record ofdishonesty, vexatious nuissance and threatening on this forum as noted by the utterly dishonest and duplicitous letter to Butcher’s Service Provider.

I trust this helps to put the dishonesty of EUkip’s frequent claims, in context.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#180* – EUkip NEC Tales From Dr. Eric Edmond

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/12/2008

#180* – EUkip NEC Tales From Dr. Eric Edmond

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MORE EVIDENCE OF EUkip LEADERSHIP’S DUPLICITY & CORRUPTION

Hi,

I have felt it apposite, since I have been away to post something so here is a reprint from Dr. Eric Edmond’s blog:
More tales from the NEC

You may well find this interesting as it features on Junius’ blog as well.

It seems only fair to talk about members of the NEC who have so escaped my mention.

Mr Gill was formerly Tory MP for Ludlow for around 15 years. He appears never to have held government office even as a Parliamentary Under Secretary, Pussy for short, but I am happy to be corrected on this point. This former luminary of the Tory party was charged with overseeing the UKIP MEP selection process and seeing the rules were obeyed. As referee he reported not to the NEC but to the Farage appointed Political committee. He it was who waved (or should I say waived) through Ms Andreasen’s MEP application which clearly breeched a number of UKIP rules that were rigoursly applied to lesser mortals.

Worse, when the complaints from those lesser beings started to roll in on the MEP selection process, Mr Gill was on holiday, sailing around the Med and I was unable to contact him. I found this passing strange as only 3 weeks previously I had sailed for two weeks on a very small yacht round the Eastern Med and had been able to access my emails every evening at the local Tavernas. I also add I narrowly avoided the Taverna frequented by Russian oligarchs, former EU commissioners and ex Bullingdon club members now on the Tory front bench. I plead poverty for this omission.

To use a football metaphor Mr Gill refereed the first half but then failed to appear out of the tunnel for the second half and as we all know its a game of two halves Nigel.

Ms Duffy I recollect demanding to know what my agenda was. I replied, “To get the UK out of the EU in my lifetime.” This obviously came as a surprise to Ms Duffy. She returned to the attack however when David, Del and I had the temerity to burst into laughter at one of the great leader’s more outrageous statements. My fate was sealed.

Ms Seymour and Mr Bown both wax eloquent about UKIP’s problems when the leader is not present but alas their courage deserts them when faced with the great man and their hands go up in support in the best comradely tradition.

Last week I watched Question Time. There was a strong feeling from the audience and the panel, except for Douglas Alexander the minister, that it would have been far more effective to cut VAT on Gas and Electricity to zero. This would also benefit the poor and needy most. The answer from Mr Alexander was it was against EU law to cut VAT below 15%.

This was a god sent opportunity for UKIP to seize an issue of real importance to ordinary people but I am afraid our leadership seems more pre-occupied with BNP witch hunting. To parody Oscar Wilde, the unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable.

Dr. Eric Edmond – ELECTED NEC member EUkip.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#179* – EUkip ADD VENT CALANDAR

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 05/12/2008

#179* – EUkip ADD VENT CALANDAR

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

EUkip ADD VENT CALENDAR – ADD ANYTHING!
Hi,

Dreaming of his Christmas stockings and what would be in them:

On The First Day of Failure
Young Nigel said to me
Blame all of our problems
On the imagin ary BNP

On The Second Day of Failure
Young Farage said to me
To get ridof Eric Edmond
Call muppet wee Denny

On The Third Day of Failure
Young Nigel said to me
We must expel Doc. Abbott
He’s not one of ‘us’ you see

On The Fourth Day of Failure
Young Farage said to me
Send ALL accounts abroad
Where no-one else can see

On The Fifth Day of Failure
Young Nigel said to me
We must raise more money
To pay the ‘Zuckerman’s Fee’

On The Sixth Day of Failure
Young Farage said to me
Get the odious McGough
To criticise GL-Dubbya’s Lee

On The Seventh Day of Failure
Young Nigel said to me
To get Bannerman appointed
We must fiddle his CV

On The Eighth Day of Failure
Young Farage said to me
Ask Annabelle Fuller
To post West’s Video on TV

On The Ninth Day of Failure
Young Nigel said to me
Divert £150,000 from Wales
To my personal Kitty

On The Tenth Day of Failure
Young Farage said to me
We need more Tory Lord’s
So we can get a seat for ‘ME’

On The Eleventh Day of Failure
Nigel said to me
If we do lose the election
I’ve done a deal with Declan Ganaleee

On The Twelfth Day of Failure
The members said to me
The Party is now Bankrupt
We Need – Farage – A Rope – and TREE

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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