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#194* – ARNOTT DOES HIMSELF NO FAVOURS!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/12/2008

#194* – ARNOTT DOES HIMSELF NO FAVOURS!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

Jonathan ARNOTT GENERAL MANAGER OF EUkip DOES HIMSELF NO FAVOURS JOINS WITH BUTCHER & PADMORE IN MUD WRESTLING IN DISHONEST MISUNDERSTANDING OF OUR LANGUAGE!

Hi,

Since I am banned from Anthony Butcher’s Forum and blocked from reading the site – no doubt, based on the information being sent to me, so that Anthony Butcher and Brendan Padmore can use weasel words to justify their cowardice and dishonesty.

I note that they are now assuring their Forum that they were not interested in whether I was telling the truth or not – they were happy to use a false claim to lie about me I guess.

They have also lied that I did not respond in 24 hours which I did – Brendan Padmore has lied in claiming I did not.

They have stated all that I had to do was apologise and claimed I did not – this is a lie by Brendan Padmore and Anthony Butcher.

I stated in my very first response to the stalker Padmore who has been seeking to provoke a response on various posts to his duplicitous stalking. My statement was unequivocal that had I been lied to which I did not believe I apologise.

I appreciate Brendan Padmore is way out of his depth in Moderation of morality and ethics and challenged when it comes to accuracy of linguistics but it is sad to realise that Anthony Butcher as owner of this EUkip propaganda Forum with its multiple RSS feeds for EUkip and suppression of free speech to ensure the truth is suppressed and stalking by such as Croucher, McGough, The BFM, Denny, Padmore etc. who to a greater or lesser extent dishonestly repeat lies, provoke and dishonestly protect EUkip.

We note Anthony Butcher is colluding in, if not instigating, corruption and dishonesty. That I am denied the opportunity to provide factual information is clearly a deliberate act for and on behalf of EUkip by Padmore & Butcher.

You will note from the various postings about Jonathan Arnott, both Butcher & Padmore have provided a platform for dishonesty about me. They have made no honest endeavour to ensure accuracy.

I now note from the posting by Arnott, forwarded to me, that he is permitted to imply that I had made some allegation about or against him.

Whether the silly little lad, who is clearly way out of his depth despite the fact he was good at sums, let us see if he is man enough to make a clear and unequivocal posting on the Forum apologising to me for his inference and also for having duplicitously implied I owed his some sort of apology.

That he was willing to provide the answer to the question I asked, which Junius reiterated from my blog, is a step in the right direction – that as General Secretary of EUkip he dishonestly makes the matter confrontational. Rather a measure of the fact that maybe sums does NOT provide the required qualification nor an early start the maturity for a serious political job.

The lad was all too willing to visit the Forum and state his clarification AND then demean himself with his ill considered comments. Having used the Forum to suit him let us see if he has the maturity to use it to apologise for his behaviour. Similarly since ignoramus The BFM

serially puts his fat little feet in his mouth is it not time, IF the Forum has any self respect and integrity that it put a boot in his mouth every time he opens it – since almost without exception he is wrong and so stupid he doesn’t even realise!

Let us also see if as General Manager of EUkip whether little Jonathan commansd the respect and authority to ensure that Jennifer Ruthin issues an apology for her idiotic comments before returning to read the instructions on food packaging to improve her understanding of our glorious language.As ever in contempt,

G.L-W.

I Believe young Jonathan is responding to Junius:

What a bizarre way of asking me to comment – you could easily have
picked up the phone and asked me yourself if you had a query, rather
than ask me to comment on a forum that I no longer post on.

The allegation is completely untrue.

I hold the MMATH qualification from Sheffield University, obtained in
2000. When I took the course, students were required to choose at the
end of the 2nd year whether to go for the 3-year BSc (from memory G100
sounds like the right code for the BSc but it was a decade ago that I
made the decision) or, if the minimum standard had been reached, the
4-year Masters (MMATH) qualification.

Aardvark is correct that the girl at Oxford was far younger than me; the
statement actually made was the youngest to obtain a Masters in
Mathematics “from Sheffield University”.

If Junius or indeed any UKIP member wishes to discuss this matter with
me further, they may do so on the UKIP members’ forum: Login.

I will gladly provide evidence of my qualification to Anthony Butcher if
he wishes, provided that it is treated in confidence.

I wonder whether those who have made or repeated these allegations
against me will have the decency to offer an unqualified apology, both
for their statements and the manner in which this has been done.

I will not post further here on this subject.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#193* – EUkip NEC MEMBER Dr. Eric EDMOND EXPOSES….

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/12/2008

#193* – EUkip NEC MEMBER Dr. Eric EDMOND EXPOSES….

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

EUkip ELECTED NEC MEMBER Dr. Eric EDMOND EXPOSES INDIVIDUALS & THEIR BEHAVIOUR!!

Hi,

Dr. Eric Edmond EUkip elected NEC member – has written more revealing details of his colleagues on EUkip’s leadership team. It is a revelation of the appaulingly low callibre of the elected officers of EUkip and their self serving disregard for members and our Country for their own ends and personal gain!

NEC – More Characters

For completeness I give my views on:

Martin Haslam (non-elected, but invited),

Marta Andreasen (ex-officio, non elected)

&

Michael Zuckerman, elected.

Martin Haslam is one of the most honest and decent men I have ever met.
He was nominally deputy treasurer of UKIP but in fact did all the Treasury work.
I am not quite sure what Ms Andreasen did. He has donated over £10000 to UKIP and also paid La Andreasen’s salary of £36000 for the first three months.

I have never met anyone with a bad word to say about Martin except NF. Nigel arranged for a journalist from the Independent newspaper to phone Martin when he was playing tennis with the sole purpose of entrapping Martin into speaking to a journalist without informing NF.

NF brazenly stated he was testing Martin’s loyalty.

It beggars belief that anyone could doubt the integrity, honesty and loyalty of Martin Haslam. He is a man without fault.

Ms Andreasen’s character shows through in her interview with the BBC.
Click on the Picture below, click on “Watch full interview ” button, turn up the sound and settle down for 30 minutes informative viewing.

After watching ask yourself if you would wish to work with this woman, have her working for you or have her represent your party and your views.

After Martin’s entrapment he was removed from the NEC by NF. Ms Andreasen is now signing the cheques and keeps the UKIP books presumably in Barcelona where she lives.

As La Andreasen is now an MEP candidate she might well be signing cheques payable to herself. This is called a conflict of interest and is not recommended as good practice.

Mr Zuckerman also has ambitions to be an MEP.

He is on the London list but Mr Batten and Mr Atkinson are ahead of him. Mr Batten and Mr Atkinson had some bitter arguments during the MEP election. Mr Bannerman has helpfully suggested if these arguments continue then Mr Batten and Mr Atkinson should be demoted in the list leaving Mr Zuckerman as numero uno.

Mr Zuckerman as party secretary and legal advisor was also helpful in confirming that Mr Bannerman being paid by EU money, an organisation EUKIP avowedly wishes to leave, was not a bar to Mr Bannerman being a member of UKIP NEC and formulating the charges against me.

The ways of the law are indeed strange.I expect to have more to tell you about Mr Zuckerman in the New Year.On Tuesday, 9th Dec, I attended a meeting of my local branch committee to which our excellent chairman, Ken Perry, had invited our RO and long time friend of Mr Farage, Malcolm Wood to explain by what authority the NEC could remove an elected member whose only crime was to disagree with some of the great leader’s views.

Ken and the other committee members were clear that they were minded to dissolve the branch if necessary.I was humbled and proud of the way Ken and all the committee members refused to be distracted by Mr Wood’s dissembling and obfuscation.

They repeated their argument that UKIP’s ruling cabal had no democratic authority to expel me.

That by so doing they were behaving just like the EU and were turning UKIP into a Fascist organisation. Why do we have elections at all if the NEC ignores the result? How can the NEC be prosecutor, judge and jury in its own case?They have written to Nuttall demanding I be reinstated.

The decision to disband will be deferred until they get his answer but they demand his answer by Xmas. They also noted they had not yet received a reply from Nuttall to their previous letter.Our committee represents all that is best in UKIP and indeed why I joined UKIP in the first place.

Mr Wood’s waffling and persistent avoiding of questions went down very badly indeed. As Mr Lincoln said, “You cant fool all of the people all of the time”

Malcolm Wood has been untrustworthy for as long as I can remember him and acted duplicitously for Nigel Farage behind his direct employer’s backs.

Malcolm Wood has been willing to lie about events, accounts and people without any qualms, whether for his personal gain to hang onto his and his wife Jenny’s lucrative jobs, or to the orders of his paymasters The EU, or for Farage directly – it is mere speculation, on the evidence to hand but that he DOES and is willing TO LIE is absolutely irrefutable.

Regards,

Greg L-W.
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#192* – BUTCHER SPONSORS MORE LIES

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/12/2008

#192* – BUTCHER SPONSORS MORE LIES

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

LITTLE ANTHONY BUTCHER IS AGAIN SPONSORING LIES & DEFAMATORY STATEMENTS ABOUT ME TO AID EUkip & FARAGE!

Hi,
More dishonest Bunkum Published on Anthony Butcher’s corrupt little Forum where he rigidly polices nuances of meaning and endless propaganda in favour and support of EUkip and the corruption that is seemingly endemic under Farage’s leadership.

I appreciate that little Anthony Butcher feels intimidated by the lies and dishonesty of NuttAll and EUkip and being weak is happy to jump through their hoops to help them but that gives him absolutely no authority to publish pernicious dishonesties against me on a serial basis due to his cowardice and lack of morality.

You will note the posting from someone purporting to know FACTS, without any provenance or evidence just their opinion, is permitted by the proven dishonest and corrupt Anthony Butcher, to claim that I have libelled someone which I have not and to make childish defamatory statements, much in keeping with EUkip but clearly bringing UKIP as a party for honest adults into disrepute.
I suggest both Anthony Butcher AND the self proclaimed and uncontactable Jennifer Ruchat take reading lessons and study the understanding of The English Language before yet again defaming me and misrepresenting me.
When they have read my statement and questions as originally posed regarding young Arnott, on my blog, perhaps they would have the courtesy to withdraw their gratuitous, offensive and inaccurate insults and apologise for misrepresenting me in public.
I appreciate that based upon his track record Anthony Butcher will produce a string of weasel words to try to justify his habitual dishonesty and open support of dishonesty and lies pertaining to me whilst supporting his efforts on behalf of EUkip and Farage.

JenniferRuchat has posted:

How the hell would you know what Jonathan Arnott did or did not get. You
do realise that what you are writing and posting is libel and that you
are gaining nothing other than boosting your own inferiority complex and
simple minded rants.

I think you and GLW need some serious medical help!

Get a life and find something more interesting to lie about. And FYI
Jonathan DID get a masters degree, he left sixth form at 15 and did a
Degree and a Masters by the age of 19. I am the vice Chairman of UKIP
Sheffield and I have seen his certificates and GLW is wrong it is not a
masters of the arts but a masters of mathematics (MMATH) so he really
needs to get his facts right first!

To analyse:
JenniferRuchat has posted:

>How the hell would you know what Jonathan Arnott did or did not get.

An improvement in reading skills and attention to my blog makes that VERY clear.
>You do realise that what you are writing and posting is libel
No not one word of libel on my part though the dishonest misrepresentation of what I said and your gratuitous and unfounded defamatory statements can be construed by a Court of Law as libellous.
>and that you are gaining nothing

I would disagree in that we are establishing fact by asking a question.

I have also established yet again that Anthony Butcher is willing and happy to provide a platform for defamatory and offensive comments about me to aid EUkip in the continuance of corruption and support of Farage, whom he openly states should be left in Office to fight the election and maybe regain his seat as an MEP.

>other than boosting your own inferiority complex and simple minded rants.

As you have no medical qualification you do rather bring UKIP into disrepute with this sort of childish name calling – a sad reflection on the inadequacy of EUkip’s self proclaimed Officers.

>I think you and GLW need some serious medical help!

A sad reflection on EUkip that it considers such unfounded comments due to an inability of its Branch Chairman to understand a simple statement as shown on my blog!

>Get a life and find something more interesting to lie about.

As it is abundantly clear that I have NOT lied nor has any lie been shown, an apology is due from vice Chairman of UKIP Sheffield & from UKIP Sheffield Branch on whose behalf she has libelled me. Also from Anthony Butcher for yet again hosting and providing a platform for dishonesty and defamatory comments made against me.

>And FYI Jonathan DID get a masters degree, he left sixth form at 15 and did a Degree and a Masters by the age of 19.

Thank you for the clarification of the simple question I originally asked.

May I now ask why you saw fit to lie about me and insult me and why you saw fit to libel me and bring UKIP into disrepute by your offensive behaviour on a public foum?

>I am the vice Chairman of UKIP Sheffield and I have seen his certificates and GLW is wrong it is not a masters of the arts but a masters of mathematics (MMATH) so he really needs to get his facts right first!

Woopie Doo a vice chairman of EUkip (how embarrassing!)

I was wrong on no point or issue as I clearly stated that I was asking questions NOT making a statement – yet again you jump to an inaccurate and gratuitously offensive conclusion beased, it seems, on a very challenged ability to understand English.The purpose of my blog was to establish facts – no I did not get my facts wrong and if only this EUkip dummy would act with SOME intelligence she would note the aim was ‘he really needs to get his facts right first ‘

Let us now see if EUkip’s branch vice Chairman for Sheffield has the integrity to unreservedly apologise and if Anthony Butcher similarly apologises and issues not only an apology for having dishonestly promoted but failed to censure this dishonest attack made on me.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#191* – EUkip DISPLAYS ITS STANDARDS!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/12/2008

#191* – EUkip DISPLAYS ITS STANDARDS!

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

EUkip’s BATTEN & McGOUGH SHOW WHY EUkip IS GOING NOWHERE

CLEARLY DECLAN GANLEY & LIBERTAS HAVE AN OPEN DOOR!

From: john west [mailto:johnwest81@hotmail.com]
Sent: 01 December 2008 15:18
To:
gerard.batten@btinternet.com
Subject: London campaign

Dear Gerard,

Would you consider reimbursing our expenses in coming down to London to assist you during the Mayoral campaign?

Our train fair came to £80.

Yours sincerely,
John & Alison West



From: Gerard Batten [mailto:gerard.batten@btinternet.com]

Sent: 02 December 2008 10:32
To: ‘john west’
Cc: ‘Lawrence Webb’; ‘mick mcgough’
Subject: RE: London campaign

Dear John and Alison,

I thought that you had come to London on a voluntary basis in order to support UKIP in the London elections. For which I, and UKIP London Region, were most grateful. I do not recall you asking before you volunteered to come for reimbursement of your expenses. It seems strange that you should now wait eight months to request this.

The accounts for the campaign were officially closed long ago so my Agent, Mick McGough, could not pay you from the election fund.

Are you asking me to pay you personally?

I will consider doing so if you likewise will consider reimbursing me for my expenses incurred in coming to speak at the two conferences you organis
ed on Immigration and Crime policy in Woodbridge. I would have to look up what I paid in diesel, the hotel bill, meal and other expenses, but I could do so on a reciprocal basis if you wish. My guess is that it would be somewhere between £200 to £300.

Yours sincerely,

Gerard

From: michael.mcgough@lineone.net
To:
johnwest81@hotmail.com
CC: lawrencejwebb@btinternet.com;
gerard.batten@btinternet.com
Subject: Fw: London campaign
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:31:54 +0000

Dear John and Alison,

Gerard has passed me copies of this correspondence as I was his Electoral Agent for his London Mayoral Campaign and am the elected Treasurer and member of the London Regional Committee.

I am sure that having both been candidates in the past you understand electoral law and that there are time limits for payment of expenses.Notwithstanding the lateness of this claim ,I as agent at no time made any agreement to reimburse you.

I am sorry to disappoint you ,especially at this time of year,but were I to make payment I would break the law.Similarly Gerard cannot use his MEP allowances either as this too is illegal.

Kindest regards

Yours sincerely

Michael McGough

—– Original Message —–
From: john west
To:
michael.mcgough@lineone.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:13 PM
Subject: RE: London campaign

Dear Mr McGough,

I would be grateful if you did not email me again. I have no wish to correspond with a man who lied in his MEP election address and has lied about me on the Democracy Forum. You have also lied on the same forum about Martin Harvey, Peter Cole and Len Baynes. I understand Martin has requested an apology from you over this.

If you had any integrity you would resign from UKIP.

John West

From: michael.mcgough@lineone.net
To:
johnwest81@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: London campaign
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 23:54:37 +0000

Dear John,

Thank you so much for your reply and good wishes.
As a past and prospective future candidate it beggars belief that you should have made a request totally contrary to electoral law and without any prior agreement.

I hope this was just an oversight on your and your wife’s part .

Yours sincerely

Michael McGough
Electoral Agent for London Mayoral and London Assembly List Elections May 2008
Elected Member and Treasurer ,
UKIP London Regional Committee
Chairman ,UKIP ,Redbridge and Waltham Forest Branch of five constituencies,
London Region Treasurer, UKIP. Epping Forest, Eastern Counties
MEP Candidate June 2008, Eastern Counties

From: michael.mcgough@lineone.net
To:
johnwest81@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: London campaignDate: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:27:58 +0000

Dear John,

Don’t you mean read ,not listen ?

Yours as ever,
Michael

—– Original Message —–

From: john west
To:
michael.mcgough@lineone.net
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 12:06 AM
Subject: RE: London campaign

You don’t listen do you?

From: michael.mcgough@lineone.net
To:
johnwest81@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: London campaign
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:27:58 +0000

Dear John,

Don’t you mean read ,not listen ?

Yours as ever,
Michael

From: john west [mailto:johnwest81@hotmail.com]
Sent: 10 December 2008 14:51
To: gerard.batten@btinternet.com
Subject: McGough

Dear Gerard,

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I have been in Bath and have also been very busy lately. Thank you for your response. It is nice to know that our efforts are appreciated by you especially as we are £80 out of pocket. However, I would appreciate that in future you do not pass on my correspondence to M. McGough. I have no wish to receive his childish emails.

This man has also lied about me, Martin Harvey, Peter Cole and others on the Democracy Forum. He also lied in his MEP election address about being the PPC for Harlow.
If he had any integrity he would resign from UKIP.

Yours,
John West

—– Original Message —–
From: Gerard Batten
To:
‘john west’
Cc:
‘mick mcgough’
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: McGough

Dear John,

I always give credit and thanks where they are due. Your and Alison’s efforts were geniunely appreciated.

Mick was my election agent in the Mayoral election and is the London Region Treasurer therefore it was appropriate for me to refer it to him. I cannot agree with your personal comments about him.

Yours sincerely,

Gerard

From: john west [mailto:johnwest81@hotmail.com]
Sent: 11 December 2008 13:53
To: gerard.batten@btinternet.com
Subject: RE: McGough

Dear Gerard,

So you think that McGough did not lie about being the PPC for Harlow? I suggest that you phone Martin Harvey who is the chairman for the Harlow area. He will put you right on that one. Also, do you think misleading members about being a PPC is acceptable? I assume that you also agree with his attacks on Peter Cole, Martin Harvey and myself. These were made on the Democracy Forum and are without any basis in fact.

I must also assume that you approve of McGough sending me childish emails.

I must say that I am very surprised that you support such behaviour.
John

From: michael.mcgough@lineone.net
To:
johnwest81@hotmail.com
CC:
gerard.batten@btinternet.com
Subject: Re: McGoughDate: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:02:30 +0000

Dear John,

Thank you for your kind words.

Yours sincerely

as ever,

Michael

From: gerard.batten@btinternet.com
To:
johnwest81@hotmail.com
CC:
michael.mcgough@lineone.net
Subject: RE: McGough
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:17:48 +0000

Dear John,

I don’t waste my time reading interent forums. I am too busy trying to get things done in the real world to commune with the malevolent spritits that haunt the internet.

I judge people by what that do and say to me. I have alwasy found Mick to be a decent and honest man.

Regards,

Gerard

From: johnwest81@hotmail.com
To:
gerard.batten@btinternet.com
Subject: RE: McGough
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:59:29 +0000

Clearly we have different standards.

A man who lies in his election address can hardly be considered a ‘decent and honest man’.

I also note that despite my earlier request you have still decided to copy McGough into this email.

No doubt many others have also been copied into our private correspondence.

John West

From: johnwest81@hotmail.com
To:
gerard.batten@btinternet.com
Subject: FW: McGough
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:02:12 +0000

Gerard,

This is an example of McGough’s pathetic attempts to be a smart Alec.

John

I leave it entirely upto you to draw your conclusions.

Be minded that Gerard Batten is an MEP and is it any wonder he stands about as much chance of being returned at the election as has EUkip of raising their numbers- they have had since 2004 to make a name for themselves and they sure have!! It would have been so much better if they had been any use whatsoever as MEPs!

Batten has merely acted as a recruiting sargeant for The BNP and it is likely they will take his seat – what an indictment on his brief political career!

For more details of just how odious a character Michael McGough is CLICK HERE

Regards,
Greg L-W.
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#190* – McGOUGH, Michael of EUkip – LIES & CHEATING

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/12/2008

#190* – McGOUGH, Michael of EUkip – LIES & CHEATING

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

McGOUGH, Michael of EUkip – HAS LIED TO CHEAT HIS FRIENDS, LIED TO DUPE HIS ASSOCIATES & ALL FOR PERSONAL GAIN AT THEIR EXPENSE.

Hi,

Epping Forest
Michael Jack McGough
24 Wellfields
Loughton
Essex
IG10 1NX
020 8508 7493
michael.mcgough@lineone.net

Is a trusted EUkip member supporting the corruption and bullying of Nigel Farage’s corrupt and corrupted leadership and NEC.

Michael McGough was the unelected signator of EUkip cheques whilst his pal the unreliable and irresponsible Andrew Smith was Treasurer of EUkip and totally abrogated on his professional responsibilities leading, through incompetence, dishonesty and irresponsibility to EUkip being found Guilty in the Courts of an offence under Electoral Law which still stands every chance of costing EUkip between £1/2 & 1 Million in forfeit and costs!

McGough has defended Smith’s corruption wherever possible – a measure of his own scorn for EUkip and their members.

Michael McGough acted in a position of trust for Gerard Batten as his Political Agent and Election Treasurer during the last Mayoral Election in which EUkip’s result was catastrophic and Gerard Batten’s results challenging for the Mayoralship gained less than 2% despite the fact that he had been elected MEP in 2004, which should have raised his profile. Well perhaps it did and that is why he did so badly!

Michael Jack McGough has shown that he is unfit to represent ANYONE as even in representing himself he has proved to be willing to lie to cheat his friends and lie to dupe his colleagues.

Mick McGough, in his bid to be selected as a prospective candidate MEP for EUkip set out to enhance his chances against those of his friends by stating:

‘Joining UKIP via the Referendum Party, I have stood as a candidate on a number of occasions, and am currently the prospective Parliamentary Candidater for Harlow’.

This is a lie – Mick McGough is NOT the prospective Parliamentary Candidate – this can be verified as can be the fact that he set out to enhance his chances at the expense of his friends and associates by:

Read the Returning Officer’s Report Officially produced for EUkip’ corrupt leadership which can be found at CLICK HERE Mick McGough’s dishonesty is just one of many reasons that the Returning Officer states the selection was unsound and untrustworthy and should be re-run by an independent external organisation as EUkip’s leadership were neither trustworthy nor trusted.

Alternatively call the Branch Chairman of Harlow Branch whether Mick McGough is or is not, was or was not Harlow’s Parliamentary prospective candidate you can contact the Chairman at:

Broxbourne & Harlow
Mr. Martin Harvey
119 Old Nazeing Road
Broxbourne
Hertfordshire
EN10 6RJ
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martinharveyonr@ aol.com

I trust this helps you to understand the level of corruption and dishonesty amongst those who are party to the leadership of EUkip. The NEC & Leadership of EUkip show their indifference to dishonesty by taking no steps to correct the offence.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

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#189* – LITTLE ANTHONY BUTCHER’S LIES

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/12/2008

#189* – LITTLE ANTHONY BUTCHER’S LIES

Clean EUkip up NOW & make UKIP electable!

ANTHONY BUTCHER & BRENDAN PADMORE
ARE CLEARY
WITHOUT COMPREHENSION OF BASIC HONESTY!

Hi,

Be very clear about the irrefutable FACT:
Peter Reeve EU salaried Political Regional Organiser for EUkip in The EU Eastern Region –
HAS BEEN REPORTED TO THE POLICE
For: An Act Of Common Assault

ANY action on the part of Brendan Padmore or Anthony Butcher seeking to suppress this FACT is not only an attempt to suppress the truth but also an act in removal of the RIGHT of Free Speech.

—–Original Message—–From: greg glanceback [mailto:greg.glanceback@btconnect.com] Sent: 10 December 2008 20:49To: greg@glanceback.demon.co.ukSubject: FW: British Democracy Forum Contact Us Form – Site Feedback

—–Original Message—–
From: Anthony Butcher [mailto:contact@politigg.co.uk]
Sent: 10 December 2008 19:36
To: greg.glanceback@btconnect.com Wrong Address Hence Delay In Response
Subject: Re: British Democracy Forum Contact Us Form – Site Feedback

—– Original Message —–
From:

> That you aided EUkip & Farage by accepting a lie from them as a tool to
> curtail the publication of truth yet refused to accept a substantiable
> fact from me speaks volumes of your integrity

Greg, you were asked to provide evidence and you didn’t. Indeed I did – why lie? You then go on to show I provided evidence thus proving you have lied.You just said that someone had told you that it was true.

That is by definition evidence.

That’s not evidence, that’s hearsay.

Inventing a new language to cover for your dishonesty helps little hearsay in evidentiary terms IS ‘Hearsay EVIDENCE’.

The fact that you can’t tell the difference and simply won’t accept that the
moderators have to take action on that basis is exactly why we have had to
ban you.

Another Butcher’s Dishonesty – if evidence of a specific nature was asked for you just MIGHT have a sound argument BUT IT WAS NOT.

We haven’t said that John West wasn’t assaulted,

So you admit my statement was not libellous and was TRUE – yet you still CHOOSE to act dishonestly as Farage’s little puppet!

we said that a complaint had been made about your statements and asked you to back them up

Which as you have admitted I did!
Yet no request was made to endorse the complaint!
However despite NuttAll having lied to you, lied about you, attacked you, invented law to bully you and duplicitously gone behind your back with a pack of lies to your Service Provider within a day or so you were doing a deal with the little scum bag and YOU described him as ‘a nice guy’ – well I guess we all have different standards – is this a total immature failure of judgement on your part or are you just a spineless aid to Farage?

or withdraw them

Which I did in that I stated ‘had I been lied to, which I had no reason to believe I had, I apologise’.
Which bit of that direct apology was too sophisticated for YOU or Padmore to understand?

(because we considered them potentially libellous).

In law there is no such thing as ‘potentially’ libellous – try to use language you are competent to understand.
If a statement of FACT is made and it is correct then there is no libel.

You failed to do either and then abused the moderator just for doing his (voluntary) job.

Having been deliberately stalked by a moderator, deliberately provoked and openly attacked by a moderator with little command of the language, who actively attacked me aiding the liar and cheat Robert Feel Martiniz to mislead deliberately and having noted YOUR childish little paddy when you were exposed by your own members as being without morality and unfair in a poll.

The FACT that you have deliberately hosted attacks founded on malice and lies against me and have made absolutely no effort to control the dishonesty of such as The BFM, the proven liar and cheat Michael McGough, the discredited liar Mark Croucher, similarly Douglas Denny etc.

Please do not feel that you were abused – how could you be since you have acted consistently in a manner beneath contempt. You are dishonest, gutless and pandering and have acted in a cowardly and duplicitous manner – there is not one word of abuse therein merely a statement of FACT as proven.

If it later turns out that Reeve has been convicted of assault

Frankly what is the relevance of your fantasy?
I stated ACCURATELY that Peter Reeve the discredited EUkip Regional Organiser had been reported to the police for an act of low grade Common Assault – yet YOU choose to imply a likelihood of a CONVICTION – yet you claim I have in some way transgressed.
What exactly keeps your ears apart!

then I am sure that the story will be discussed on the forum because there will be evidence to back it up.

Since you have made it abundantly clear that you do not recognise evidence when it is placed before you and have made it clear that Justice is a concept beyond your understanding – who would care?

On the other hand, if it turns out that John West is a big girl’s blouse and has made a fuss about nothing, then luckily we will have avoided an innocent man’s reputation being smeared without justification.

It ill becomes you to seek to demean & smear John West who has shown more integrity, greater morality and hugely more courage than have you or Padmore – at least one can respect John West for his resolute determination to honestly acquit his duty.

Whilst you and Padmore dishonestly and ever the cowards roll over to oblige EUkip and try to keep Farage in power!

> and the efforts you will go to in order to support Farage, even promoting the >concept on your
> Forum that he should not be removed as leader of EUkip before the
> elections.

Absolutely. The only way to get rid of Farage in the long term is to let him
destroy his reputation in June all by himself.

Clearly rubbish that is merely ONE way.

If he is ousted before then, he will always have yet another excuse that it was infiltrators and traitorswho ruined it, rather than his poor leadership.

So what? The aim is to ensure Britain is NOT represented by EUkip and Farage.

Trying to remove him as leader now with just six months to go is extremely short sighted IMHO,

So you believe in supporting Farage and corruption – now perhaps we all understand!

and,
if successful, will only serve to give him an easy way to continue running
the party in the future.

If he leads the party to failure that would suffice to ensure his political demise. It is the duty of the leader to ensure his party is not hijacked by its opposition and his duty to keep it on the rails representing its electorate.

In other words, in trying to get rid of him now, you are assisting him in the long term, which of course is not your intention.

Though it would seem to be yours – I note you have removed the only named outspoken, resolute, accurate opponent for them!

If you really want to get rid of him, ensure that he loses his own seat in
June. There’s no way he can stay leader without being an MEP and would
almost certainly leave the party.

Then perhaps rather than constructing wordy defenses of your dishonesty perhaps a brief explanation as to why you are directly aiding Farage and EUkip might interest!

Now, you can keep your brain in a jar on the desk and continue to think that
this is me supporting Farage, or you can accept that while we may not agree
on the methods, we agree on the aims.

YOU have a method!!
That would be a first.
Perhaps you could show where you have EVER had any effect in this field save capitulation to Farage and running away when elected to his NEC; unwilling to stand as a man and state why in a press release – Suchorzewski can be respected for his action – you just slithered away with both your courage and your brain in a jam jar, both as yet unused.

> If your dishonest comments do not embarrass you then I find it
>surprising that you take umbrage at the factual statements I made about
> yourself & Padmore – all easily substantiated.

Of course I take umbrage. You are unnecessarily rude and accuse us of all
sorts of nonsense. Your eagerness to abuse people is not a virtue.

Your dishonesty, duplicity and cowardice is a matter of shame and puts you beneath contempt. I am happy to be castigated for a lack of virtue in denouncing such a person.

Anthony Butcher

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62

MAY I SUGGEST – since there is no political party of repute advocating or campaigning for withdrawal of these United Kingdoms from the EU and restoration of our independent sovereign democracy, with Justice & the right to self determination in a free country:

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