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Lies Surrounding A Claim That UKIP NEC Members Favoured BNP Alliance.

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 08/03/2014

Lies Surrounding A Claim That UKIP NEC Members Favoured BNP Alliance.
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Lies Surrounding A Claim That UKIP NEC Members Dr. David Abbott & Dr. Eric Edmond Favoured Alliance between UKIP & The BNP & dishonesty in their removal from the NEC as with Richard Suchorzewski.

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one has to wonder if some authors, be that media or book authors do any research or whether they just write the propaganda as it is fed to them!

Senior Ukip members ‘backed pact with BNP’

Proposal was canvassed among party’s National Executive Committee in 2008 according to a new book

Daniel Boffey, policy editor
Saturday 8 March 2014 16.29 GMT
Nigel Farage
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Two members of Ukip considered forming a pact with the BNP five years ago but in 2008 Nigel Farage said the deal had been unanimously rejected. Photograph: Simon James/GC Images
A new book has revealed that Ukip considered forming a pact with the BNP six years ago, with two members of the party’s national executive committee at the time in favour of the idea.In 2008 Nigel Farage acknowledged that the BNP had proposed a deal for the European elections the following year, but insisted it had been unanimously rejected. Farage told reporters then: “I’m simply amazed that the BNP thought we would even consider such a thing.”

Now the new book, Revolt on the Right, by Dr Matthew Goodwin and Dr Robert Ford – called the most definitive account yet of the Ukip movement – reveals that the BNP’s proposal was canvassed among 17 members of the party’s NEC. Two members supported the proposal, it has emerged.

Farage, who said he had been against a pact, told the authors: “There were a lot of people saying to me at that time, ‘You’ve got to do a deal with them.’ I even had Tory MEPs saying to me, ‘Nigel, you’ve got to do a deal with these people.’ We were being beaten by them regularly in local elections. So there was huge pressure on me. The nature of the deal was the BNP would stand in some regions in the European elections in the north, and Ukip would stand in the south, and that would be the electoral pact: we wouldn’t oppose each other.”

Of the members who offered support for the pact, Farage said: “They were the angry old men of old Ukip who thought Ukip was doomed.”

The political predicament of Ukip in 2008 contrasts with its potential today, the authors say. In the book, published this week, they say the party has emerged from the crash with the potential to attract a third of the electorate.

Around 30% of voters are now believed to be both Eurosceptic and opposed to immigration, or Eurosceptic and politically dissatisfied, the defining themes for Ukip. Such sentiments are continuing to grow in strength among the electorate, according to the authors, who draw on the biggest pool of data so far amassed on the political movement.

The book provides evidence that the share of voters holding Eurosceptic views and at least one other radical right belief has increased by five to seven percentage points since 2008. Ukip is widely seen as not having a credible manifesto and has faced serious questions about the calibre of its MEPs, the authors note.

This weekend, the party was dogged by claims that it had misused EU funds in paying staff working in the UK. Yet Goodwin, from Nottingham University, and Ford, of Manchester University, say the “army of potential supporters for Ukip is growing in size” and is being aided by continued anger at Labour’s record and disaffection with the Tory leader.

They argue that Farage and Ukip face huge challenges in the first-past-the-post electoral system, and given the party’s continued unpopularity among women, ethnic minorities, graduates and the young. However, Ukip is now the favoured electoral option among those who strongly disapprove of the EU – 20% of all British voters.

Over the past three years, the party has also performed better than Labour among older, working-class voters and those who are struggling financially. The party is using tactics similar to those once successfully deployed by the Lib Dems, the authors say, in that they seek to deepen their vote in particular areas by getting into local councils and building strongholds.

It is claimed that, of the five constituencies where Ukip stands its best chance of general election success, four are Labour seats (Great Grimsby, Plymouth Moor View, Ashfield and Walsall North) and one is Tory (Waveney). The consistent feature in these areas is a splintering of the traditional vote and the existence of a large, older, blue-collar demographic.

The book suggests that the potential for Ukip’s rise can be clearly seen in societal changes that developed decades ago. The authors write: “Its seeds lay among groups of voters who struggled with the destabilising and threatening changes brought by deindustrialisation, globalisation and, later, European integration and mass immigration.”

The academics claim Farage is fusing three issues to make a coherent message: “Farage’s party now encourages voters to say ‘no’ three times: no to the Eurocrats in Brussels and Strasbourg; no to the politicians in Westminster; and no to immigration. This is not a grand ideological vision – there is no ‘Farageism’ – but it is a coherent and highly effective message.”

They add: “Ukip is not a second home for disgruntled Tories in the shires; it is a first home for disaffected working-class Britons of all political backgrounds who have lost faith in a political system that ceased to represent them long ago.”

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On publication of the book Revolt on the Right I read it but found it was tedious and pretentious in the extreme and the reporting of this story in the article above was just as inaccurate as shown! The story put forward regarding the claim that an official approach from the BNP was made and was supported by two members of UKIP’s NEC is utter hogwash.
At the time I wrote numerous factually based and sourced articles regarding this even which I showed to be nothing more than Nigel Farage’s ‘Reichstag Fire’ event giving him an excuse for his own ‘Crystalnacht’.
Never have those who Farage and his clique identified who actually proposed a link with the BNP backed by a single fact.
Was it in fact Nigel Farage?
FARAGE, Nigel 37 DEAVIN, Mark - LeCOMBER, TonyThis photo shows Nigel Farage, Mark Deavin (who sat with UKIP NEC) and Tony LeComber (National Front & subsequently BNP Lecomber was convicted for criminal damage in 1982, offences under the Explosives Act in 1985, and was sentenced to three years’ imprisonment in 1991 for an attack on a Jewish teacher.)
It is widely believed that the photograph was taken after a lunch between the three in which the possibility of Nigel Farage joining the BNP with a view to leading the party as at the time Farage was not a member of UKIP having fallen out with his colleagues!
The NEC meeting referred to in the article, and in the rather sloppy book, was attended by arrangement, as a guest of Martin Hasslam, an attendee at the NEC at the behest of Nigel Farage, agreed to by Nigel Farage, by Buster Mottram, a Farage family friend who I understand was living with a relation of Nigel Farage’s and let us not forget that Nigel Farage, against widespread advice, enrolled and welcomed Buster Mottram as a favoured member of UKIP and as something of a personality and spokesman.
Buster Mottram presented a scenario of association with the BNP claiming he had the approval of the BNP leadership!
I am reliably advised that NO ONE elected to UKIP NEC was in favour of the suggested scenario, interestingly by dint of lies and inuendo, rumours and spin it was claimed by the ‘Farage faction’, a view promoted via certain liars amongst UKIP’s press staff, that two members of the elected NEC supported the suggestion – this was and is a lie.

The claimed, by inuendo, supporters were Dr. David Abbott and Dr. Eric Edmond, both of whom have sought clarification of the implied slur and have promised to sue Farage and any member of his odious clique who claims they have supported the BNP in this context. It is interesting to note that both Abbott & Edmond had actively campaigned for transparency in UKIP’s use and abuse of both tax payers’ money and that of UKIP donors – particularly in respect of the apparent scam of The Ashford Call Center and its ramifications where another elected member of the UKIP NEC Richard Suchozevski had proved that less than 15% of the money raised by ‘Ashford’ ever reached the Party!
Interestingly not only were Drs. Abbott and Edmond forced off of UKIP NEC by Farage’s cult but so also was Richard Suchorzewski, a position that was inevitable once he had, in campaigning for clarity and probity, asked 30 questions regarding UKIP accounts and use of donors’ and tax payers’ money, questions that Andrew Smith, treasurer at the time, was seemingly unable to answer and quit his position thereby avoiding the question leaving UKIP accounts in total disaray  – seemingly with possibly £Millions unaccounted for.
I must apologise for not having posted this article when it was first published, but at the time I felt it was so shoddy, inaccurate and unchecked as to be irrelevant, as with the book quoted! I find that a subsequent article elsewhere made it relevant and therefore added the article with this comment on 10-May-2014.
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The Utter Incompetence of UKIP Leadership

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 03/02/2014

The Utter Incompetence of UKIP Leadership
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The Utter Incompetence of UKIP Leadership reaches new depths!
Endless claims of professionalising and more stringent vetting end up with 
Mujeeb ur Rehman Bhutto as their leadership spokesman!
This at a time when Nigel Farage makes his party/cult look like fools by describing the manifesto on which he stood as ‘486 pages of drivel’!

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Hi,The Utter Incompetence of UKIP Leadership reaches new depths!Endless claims of professionalising and more stringent vetting end up with  Mujeeb ur Rehman Bhutto as their leadership spokesman!

This at a time when Nigel Farage makes his party/cult look like fools by describing the manifesto on which he stood as ‘486 pages of drivel’!

How right Farage is but where is the basic integrity of his party if he presented the manifesto written by his personal placeman David Bannerman, who was clearly untrustworthy, corrupt and a liar and defected back to the Tory Party to try to secure his personal future regardless of principles.

In UKIP’s desperate and dishonest effort to pretend they are not racist regardless of the indisputable evidence they are clearly willing to waive any realistic concept of competent vetting as what on earth else could explain the utter failure of leadership to end up with an international criminal, a kidnapper and such a low life as
Mujeeb ur Rehman Bhutto as their Commonwealth spokesman for Nigel Farage!

Just who will Farage try to pass the buck to this time as he has so frequently in the past in his efforts to remain stuffing his pockets, his ego and it seems not infrequently members of his EU and UKIP salaried staff!

Yes indeed Nigel Farage with your false boasts and febrile claims of excellent results when clearly UKIP is no closer to having any kind of breakthrough in British domestic politics even on a local level having out of over 1,750 possible seats in last years Local Elections and ZERO MPs in the last 21 years all they achieved was a risible 147 elected seats of whom they have lost somewhere approaching 20 due to internal squabbling, racism and the clearly batty!

Yes indeed Nigel Farage as the BNP vote collapsed as a result of their failures of leadership it would seem you Nigel Farage almost all your MEPs and Nick Griffin were on the same master classes for personal gain judging by your results though to be sure as the BNP collapsed UKIP gained members from amongst the ranks of BNP supporters.

Yes indeed Nigel Farage it is not just pride and hubris that come before a fall and nemesis but clearly the higher up the tree the monkey climbs the more you see its assinine behaviour.

So just who do you intend to blame this time for the latest in a long line of leadership failures and stupidities.

IF UKIP is to have a future in British domestic politics other than to be a rather unpleasant irritant that demeans the body politic with its dishonesty, incompetence and lack of leadership then sadly it MUST be without Nigel Farage and both his clique of parasites sharing the leadership and the claque of followers.

May I draw the attention of readers to the advice given by Sir David Bell to Michael Gove ‘Don’t believe your own hype’ and also he said ‘Mr. Gove should not surround himself with yes men’.

Perhaps Sir David might like to change the name Gove to Farage and mail him a copy of this excellent advice!

As a minimum this makes it clear ALL staff and candidates for senior positions should be forced to provide a CRB AND sign a declaration.

The saddest part of this debacle is that many of us have been warning of just such an incident as being inevitable due to the lack of leadership and formal structure and propensity for making decisions and policy on the hoof. Unfortunately Farage has been allowed to run the party as his personal feifdom resulting in it being more a cult than a serious entity and IF Farage had the integrity to carry the can and leave it is unlikely his party would survive, in any form.

Former UKIP spokesman was kidnapping gang ‘boss’

Mujeeb BhuttoMujeeb Bhutto was jailed for seven years in 2005

A man who served as UKIP’s Commonwealth spokesman for a year is the former leader of a kidnapping gang in Pakistan, BBC Newsnight can reveal.

Mujeeb ur Rehman Bhutto’s gang were behind a high-profile kidnapping in Karachi in 2004 and he then took a £56,000 ransom payment in Manchester.

In 2005, Bhutto, of Leeds, admitted being the gang’s “boss” and was jailed for seven years by a UK court.

UKIP said Bhutto, 35, had “recently” resigned his party membership.

A party spokesman said: “When we recently became aware of possible issues relating to his past and raised the matter with him, he resigned his membership.”

Bhutto regularly appeared as UKIP’s Commonwealth spokesman, and as a party representative, in local and national media.

He organised a trip to a Leeds mosque for party leader Nigel Farage and canvassed with UKIP candidate Jane Collins during the 2012 Rotherham by-election.

‘Beheading threat’

Bhutto, who said he had left the party in December, told Newsnight he had admitted the charges against him in 2005 rather than risk being sent back to Pakistan and hanged.

“The evidence which was bought against me was from Pakistan. The allegation was simply because of political rivalry,” he said.

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There were two things that were different about this case. One was that there was an involvement with a city which was 5,000 miles away in the UK. The second was that the guys who did it actually got caught”

Journalist Shahed Sadullah

He said he planned to appeal against his conviction for conspiracy to blackmail.

Bhutto said he had been granted political asylum in the UK in 2008 and that the case against him in Pakistan had been thrown out by the country’s Supreme Court.

But senior Pakistani police sources insisted that Bhutto was still wanted in Pakistan.

In June 2004, a gang led by Bhutto kidnapped Ahmed Naeem, the son of a wealthy businessman, at gunpoint from a car on a Karachi residential street.

Five days later Bhutto flew to England.

He then negotiated a ransom payment with Mr Naeem’s father, Mohammed Naeem.

“I have the power to give you such torture that you won’t forget it for the rest of your life,” Bhutto said in calls to Mohammed Naeem that were recorded by Pakistani police and reported during his 2005 court case.

Nigel FarageBhutto once arranged a mosque visit for UKIP leader Nigel Farage

Bhutto at one point threatened to have Ahmed Naeem’s head cut off and sent to his father, according to court evidence.

Police in Karachi assisted the victim’s family, and a police source delivered a £56,000 ransom to a car park at Manchester’s Arndale shopping centre. Ahmed Naeem then was released by the gang in Pakistan.

Bhutto was swiftly arrested by Greater Manchester Police in co-operation with Pakistan police.

Ransom in bed

The £56,000 ransom was found hidden in Bhutto’s bed in a house in Leeds, and he was forced to repay it when he appeared in court.

He was sentenced under the name Majeebur Bhutto.

“You came to the UK to avoid the risk of detection in Pakistan, where kidnapping is a capital offence,” said the judge, Martin Steiger.

The other gang members were initially sentenced to death in Pakistan for the offence of kidnapping for ransom, but their sentences were commuted to life in prison in 2007 and one was released.

“Kidnappings have really gone through the roof in Pakistan. It’s the main form of getting money for many terrorist organisations,” said Shahed Sadullah, former editor of The News, part of the bilingual paper The Daily Jang.

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UKIP are certainly trying to professionalise, to move away from its more amateurish origins”

Matthew GoodwinChatham House

“There were two things that were different about this case. One was that there was an involvement with a city which was 5,000 miles away in the UK. The second was that the guys who did it actually got caught.”

In a regional UKIP newsletter from May 2013, Bhutto stated that he had been a member of the party since 2011.

“Our policy in UKIP is not to attack foreign nations, but to work with like-minded parties and support them so there is no export of terrorism to our shores,” he said.

During an appearance on BBC debating show The Big Questions in March 2013, when he was frequently referred to as “UKIP’s Commonwealth spokesman”, Bhutto said: “We want controlled immigration where we know who’s coming in, who’s going out.”

Hailed on Twitter

UKIP candidates, associations and official social media channels have previously posted messages indicating that Bhutto had a role as a UKIP representative, beyond being just a party member.

“UKIP have plenty of quality spokesman… Mujeeb Bhutto,” UKIP Bradford and district chairman Jason Smith wrote on Twitter in May 2013.

“Watch UKIP’s Mujeeb Bhutto speak out against mass uncontrolled immigration on the BBC’s Big Question,” read a tweet from UKIP’s official Twitter feed in March 2013.

Jane Collins, said on Twitter in March 2013 that Mr Bhutto was “fantastic on BBC Big Question this am. What an asset for UKIP”.

In the course of the last month, Twitter, LinkedIn and multiple Facebook profiles of Mujeeb Bhutto have been deleted from the internet.

“If you don’t have any discipline and tight screening of candidates, you are perpetually going to be in trouble,” said Matthew Goodwin, of policy institute Chatham House and co-author of Revolt on the Right: Explaining Support for the Radical Right in Britain.

“UKIP are certainly trying to professionalise, to move away from its more amateurish origins.”

Bhutto said he had now rejoined the Conservative Party, but the Tories said they had no record of that.

You can see the report in full on Newsnight at 22:30 on BBC Two on Monday or later via the Newsnight website or the BBC iPlayer.

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It Is Extremist Amateur Hour In UKIP Yet Again!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 29/04/2013

It Is Extremist Amateur Hour In UKIP Yet Again!
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It Is Extremist Amateur Hour In UKIP Yet Again!
This time as reported by this blog & on Twitter, some time ago, in Wickham Market under Stuart Agnew’s nose as organised by UKIP’s house rottveiler Peter Reeve & his doxy!!

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Wickham Market: UKIP turns back on poll candidate over ‘BNP link’

Monday, April 29, 2013 

A UKIP candidate in Thursday’s county council elections in Suffolk has been disowned by the party after it discovered he had once been a member of the BNP.

But Alan Ryall will still be on the ballot paper in the Wickham division because the discovery came after the closing date for withdrawals.

Weekend reports looking into UKIP candidates across the country said Mr Ryall had been a member of the BNP for “one or two” years but he said he now felt that party was “too extreme”.

He did not want to discuss his candidacy when our reported visited his home near Wickham Market – although he said he understood it was too late for him to withdraw from the election.

Asked about allegations that he had been a member of the BNP in the past he said he did not want to say any more and went into his home.

UKIP spokesman Stuart Gulleford said the party had a very strict policy on not allowing current or former members of the BNP to become members. “He will not be standing as a UKIP candidate and his membership will be terminated,” he said.

However, he accepted Mr Ryall will be described as the UKIP candidate on the ballot papers because they have already been printed – and many have already been sent out to postal voters.

Mr Gulleford claimed: “Everyone who joins UKIP has to sign a declaration that they are not and never have been a member of the BNP.”

UKIP was stronger on this issue than other parties, he said, and asked: “Do they know that none of their members have ever been a member of the BNP?”

However, Mr Ryall told a national newspaper he had not been asked by UKIP about his lapsed BNP membership.

Mr Gulleford said he would not be giving any advice to voters in the Wickham Division about how they should vote on Thursday following his party’s withdrawal of support for Mr Ryall. “That is a matter for voters’ conscience,” he said.

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It is not that UKIP had an ex BNP member as I am sure that the LibLabCon have more than their fair share – It is that UKIP so sanctimoniously lie about a blanket ban of such people IN A DEMOCRACY – something UKIP clearly jas little understanding of.

UKIP#s glorious leader is authorised by the party constitution to totally control UKIP selection & candidates lists – they even ban members of the long defunct UKFirstParty which was in no way extremist in its desire to Leave-The-EU they banned them out of unprincipled spite – Just as they recently banned Dr. Eric Edmond from rejoining the party after having lied about him blatantly to remove him as an elected member of UKIP NEC!

Although UKIP has many innocent victims amongst their members who know little of how the party acts and the leadership behaves largely in its present form UKIP is a really rather nasty bunch of ill mannered, extremists on an open course of racism, anti homosexual, anti Jewish hypocrites working with some of the outright scum of EU politics for their own self enrichment and vain glory.

As I have so often pointed out – ‘The higher up the tree the monkey climbs the more you see its Rs’ UKIP endless efforts to smear other parties and abuse and lie about individuals just to keep their own positions on the gravy train has clearly made them few friends!

Just imagine what a ghastly place Britain would become if UKIP in its present form were to gain ANY authority over anything!

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PS. Sorry – I would have posted this earlier but it has been a glorious day and I have been out enjoying it in my garden!

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