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Holding A Mirror To The Lies Of Ukip

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 20/01/2015

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Holding A Mirror To The Lies Of Ukip but fair play to Nigel Farage & his placemen they are well aware they are telling lies and almost bright enough to realise they just aren’t credible to thinking people!

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Hi,clearly Ukip and what passes for their executive have learned absolutely nothing from the lessons, which they admitted to in April 2013.

Ukip realised they were telling lies to the electorate and their promises just did not add up, leading to a credibility gap where the more intelligent voters just could not believe their promises and unfunded policy claims.

It does seem that in fact they did learn something, to be fair, they learned they couldn’t get away with it so they seem merely to have dropped their standards and have continued telling the public lies but now have made a policy decision (rare in Ukip!) they seem now to be pandering to ther less well educated and poorly informed in society to seek out the populist vote.

This would seem to be a ploy well learned from the likes of Oswald Mosley and Adolf Hitler who used both overt and concealed racism to sweep the gutters of politics for any available vote, hate filled as it may have been.

Clearly the policy worked and Oswald Mosley was voted man of the year in 1934 and Hitler featured on Time magazine’s cover as the man of the year in 1938 as it worked for them clearly it worked for Nigel Farage, who became man of the year 2014, by telling lies and steering his cult down market to pander to that same audience.

Interestingly he failed in Scotland where he was rivalled in the same ploy by Alex Salmond!

That these facts are still irrefutable less than 100 days befor Britain’s General Election and Ukip still has neither a credible Manifesto nor any signs of a responsible, reputable policy for an EU eXit and survival strategy – surely no one but the illiterate and semie literate bigots and all be it veiled racists could possibly be so irresponsible as to vote for a Ukip candidate.

There are, I am sure, still some die hard principled members of Ukip who have remained in the party long past the time their common sense and ethics dictated, in the vein hope they just might be able to reform it from within. Sadly a hope that has been swamped by the corruption, squabbling, infighting and clear lack of principles competent leadership.

I still find it embarrassing to admit that although I was not adequately beguiled to join Ukip as a member nor accept any position with the party I did spend an inordinate amount of time acting behind the scenes to try to change its direction to make it credible as the party to lead the British peoples out of the EU.

Sadly, I confess, I failed and Ukip are now more of a hinderance to any hopes Britain has of repatriating our democracy, reinstating our sovereignty, re-establishing our borders and reforming our justice system by the fundamental human right, as defined by the UN and others, of ‘self determination’ and a clear unequivocal vote to Leave_The_EU.

It is for this reason that I shall refuse to place my cross against any whipped party hack which would be to spoil my ballot paper and I will, as I have done for many years, clearly write on my ballot paper the only political view I value LEAVE_THE_EU

Nigel Farage admits Ukip is NOT a credible party and has not been honest with voters

 Ukip Leader Nigel Farage

Not credible: Ukip Leader Nigel Farage

Two-faced Nigel Farage privately told pals UKIP is not a “credible” party, secret papers reveal today.

In an explosive party document leaked to the Mirror he admits “promising the earth to everybody”.

He told UKIP chums the party had a “problem” due to a raft of unaffordable pledges including tax cuts, and extra cash for police.

“We are not passing the credibility test as a party,” said Mr Farage, who has repeatedly claimed UKIP is always honest with voters.

Neil and Christine Hamilton.
Warning: Neil Hamilton with wife Christine

But the leaked papers – minutes of a meeting of UKIP’s ruling executive – show the party’s top brass brazenly admit they have not been straight with the public.

UKIP deputy chairman Neil Hamilton – the disgraced ex-Tory MP – warned colleagues: “This is the last time we can get away with this.

“We can say anything on the doorstep.

“But on television we will have some pretty searching questions to answer.”

At the meeting, in April 2013, a panicking Mr Farage agreed voters are starting to see through UKIP’s endless unfunded promises.

The minutes state: “NF (Nigel Farage) thinks we cannot talk about council tax cuts and spending more on policing etc all at the same time.

“We are setting ourselves up for a fall.

“His problem is that we are promising the earth to everybody.”

The minutes go on: “NF feels we are not passing the credibility test as a party.”

UKIP claimed it had “taken on board” Mr Farage’s warnings and changed its ways.

Labour MP Sarah Champion said the damaging leak lays bare the truth behind UKIP’s public charade.

“This is absolutely typical of UKIP politicians who say one thing on the telly but have entirely different views in private,” she blasted.

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Surprise Surprise More Splits On Ukip Policies

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 20/01/2015

Surprise Surprise More Splits On Ukip Policies
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Surprise Surprise More Splits On Ukip Policies, they don’t even seem to be agreed on whether Tim Aker, their MEP policy maestro, has split, walked, been dumped or is just missing!

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Farage And UKIP Split On NHS Privatisation

Nigel Farage suggests private insurance should fund the NHS but his health spokeswoman says UKIP supports state funding.

13:27, UK, Tuesday 20 January 2015

Louise Bours

Divisions at the top of UKIP have started to emerge after Nigel Farage and his health spokeswoman disagreed over the need for private health insurance to fund the NHS.

The UKIP leader said in an interview that the state-funded health service would in future need to be replaced with a private insurance model.

However, hours later he was slapped down by his own health spokeswoman Louise Bours who said Mr Farage was “entitled to his opinion” but the party had discussed and “rejected” the idea.

UKIP leader Nigel Farage talks to Sky News

Nigel Farage says an insurance-funded NHS model must be debated

Mr Farage had said private health insurance would be a “debate” to be returned to as the health service struggles to cope with an ageing population.

In a video from 2012, which emerged last year, Mr Farage set out his ideas for health funding, saying: “I think we are going to have to move to an insurance-based system of healthcare.

 
 

Video: 04/01/15 Farage On NHS Jobs

“Frankly, I would feel more comfortable that my money would return value if I was able to do that through the market place of an insurance company than just us trustingly giving £100 billion a year to central government and expecting them to organise the healthcare service from cradle to grave for us.”

In the interview for Radio 4’s Can Democracy Work? today, Mr Farage added: “There is no question that healthcare provision is going to have to be very much greater in 10 years than it is today, with an ageing population, and we’re going to have to find ways to do it.”

He has also said no foreigners should be allowed into the UK unless they can prove they have private health insurance to pay for medical expenses.

NHS funding has become a key battleground ahead of the General Election with the Tories, Labour and the Lib Dems all pledging increases in state funding.

In parts of the country Labour has seen UKIP make inroads into its support and a move to privatising the NHS would likely prove a vote loser.

Shadow health secretary Andy Burnham said a vote for UKIP was a “vote for the privatisation of the NHS”.

He added: “UKIP claim to stand up for working people, but in reality they are more Tory than the Tories. Farage will never be able to distance himself from his real views. He should be honest with the public.”

Ms Bours told the Huffington Post: “What people have to realise about UKIP is that we are much more democratic than other parties.

“Nigel is entitled to his opinion and others are entitled to theirs, we don’t whip people into all thinking the same thing, like the establishment parties. As he has said before, he raised the idea for discussion a while ago, the party discussed at and rejected it.

“I am certain that if the party discuss it again, we will reject it again. The vast majority of UKIP members, the British public and I will always favour a state-funded NHS.”

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It is hard to work out what Ukip policy is as they seem to have become obsessed with immigration and anti Islamic rhetoric wich to most of us is just a thinly disguised form of racism.The xenophobic aspect is largely pandering to the failed in society who find themselves squeezed out of jobs by harder working and more determined EU immigrants from some of the old Communist block, who actually know what poverty really is and are determined to be gainfully employed at any cost.

Even when Ukip’s Manifesto is presented by The Glorious Leader of the cult one can not be sure it will turn out to be other than drivel, even with a glowing forward written for him and signed off by him!

Diane James one of Ukip’s more presentable MEPs has of couirse been in some form a consultant to and lobbyist in the field of the NHS and would surely have made a far more plausible health spokesman for the party than Paul Nuttall’s protege the ill mannered and mouthy Louise Bours (Dutch I presume!), who would seem to be on a mission to damage Nigel Farage so that her ‘chum’ would be better placed in any leadership bid!

That the tax payer’s pockets are not bottomless would seem to have dawned on some in Ukip and that they have failed to credibly cost any of their various woolly policies means that inevitably such high cost projects as the NHS are going to require an entirely different management structure and control on spending – obviously a nationally controlled insurance type scheme is well worthy of debate and only a moron would believe that thwe NHS can continue forward into the future without much greater control.

That Ms. Bours makes the grossly inaccurate statement that:

“I am certain that if the party discuss it again, we will reject it again. The vast majority of UKIP members, the British public and I will always favour a state-funded NHS.”
The NHS is not nor should it ever be considered to be ‘State Funded’ a notion introduced by the idiotic champagne Socialist after the appointment by Clem Atlee in 1945 of Aneurin Bevan and his extreme Communist wife Jenny Lee. A concept that Labour were determined to stamp as their imprimatur when they set out to destroy The Beveridge Plan they had undertaken to implement and support whichever party won the election.That Aneurin Bevan is described by socialists as the architect of the NHS is pure twaddle, it was he who was charged to build it in accord with Lord Beveridge’s Report, yet he could not help himself and tampered with the basic tennets leading to the polityicising of the service in just the way Ms. Bours has misunderstood it.

This is so typical of Ukip with their low grade appointees and Nigel Farage’s selection for preferment – they lack the gravitas and intellect for the task as is so manifest in the lack of achievement of Ukip, beyond duping the ignorant as a protest vote in EU elections!

How long is it since yuou last heard anyone in Ukip put forward a coherent, consistent and plausible case to Leave_The_EU now that they have jumped on the immigrant band wagon – so 22 years and still no responsible, viable EU eXit & survival strategy just endless bad publicity for their lack of coherent policy, overt and clandestine racism and their odious associates as they pander to the lowest common denominator in a race for the gutter and populism.

Perhaps we will find out just how scraped the barrel is and how the outfall of the ferrets fighting in the Ukip sack has mapped out as we note the various rumours regarding Tim Aker’s having quit as policy supremo within a month of the launch of Ukip’s Manifesto which in what can only be an emergency it has been announced that Suzanne Evans has been tasked with producing the document for Farage – which may well lead to increasing his insecurity and internal rivalry, as he will be tasked with the forward and signing of the document whatever drivel it contains, as he did in 2010 only to denounce his own document and seek to blame David Bannerman for the drivel!

I understand, from a normally unimpeachable source well connected in the upper levels of Ukip’s waring hierarchy – it would seem that Tim Aker’s associate and supporter Robert Ray is to apear in court shortly on drink driving charges subsequent to an event organised by or at least for Nigel Farage.
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This may well be the cause of Tim Aker’s fall from grace:

RAY, Robert Ukip Cllr ex NF 02Nigel Farage with Robert Ray.One of UKIP’s more notorious ‘fruitcake’ councillors has been charged with drink driving after a boozy fundraiser attended by Nigel Farage. Cllr Robert Ray — who leads the party’s growing group on Thurrock council — hit the headlines last September after it emerged he was a former official and candidate with the far-right National Front.

While his involvement with the party was in the 1970s, Cllr Ray has freely admitted that he stands by his election literature from the period.

EXCLUSIVE: Thurrock UKIP leader on drink drive chargeRobert Ray with Nigel Farage
Robert Ray with Nigel Farage

THE leader of the UKIP group on Thurrock Council has been charged with drink driving after a late night incident at a fundraising function attended by national party leader Nigel Farage and MEP Tim Aker.

Cllr Robert Ray was arrested in the early hours of last Friday morning after a dinner at the Orsett Hall Hotel.

A statement by Essex police said: “A man has been charged with drink driving after being arrested at Orsett. Robert Ray, 65, of Purfleet Road, Aveley, was stopped by officers at Orsett Hall at 2.15am on Friday, 13 June. He has been bailed and will appear at Basildon Magistrates’ Court on 1 July.

The event at Orsett Hall was a £55 a head fundraiser for UKIP organised by the Thurrock branch of UKIP, which is supporting Mr Aker in his quest to ‘double up’ as a Westminster MP after his success in the recent East of England European elections. He has been nominated as the party’s candidate for the Borough seat.

It is understood that Mr Farage and Mr Aker had left the function well before its close and that Mr Ray was leaving the scene himself in the early hours with his wife, and fellow councillor, Maggie O’Keefe-Ray.

Cllr O’Keefe-Ray, 62, was a recent winner in the local government elections for Thurrock Council, winning a seat to serve Aveley and Uplands, which her husband also represents.

Cllr O’Keefe-Ray, who suffers from a thyroid condition, blacked out, falling and cutting her head. Fellow party-goers alerted emergency services and when police arrived Mr Ray was arrested in charge of his car.
RAY, Robert Ukip Cllr ex NF 03 with wife Maggie
Mrs O’Keefe-Ray  was taken to Basildon Hospital by ambulance where she was treated and later released.

“It was all very unfortunate and we are feeling very embarrassed,” Cllr Mrs O’Keefe told the Enquirer.

Date Published: June 19, 2014 Story by Newsdesk

My condollences to her husband and family, who I have never met, as it seems the final oputcome of the evening in question may well have been the tragic news in the following article:

UKIP councillor Maggie O’Keefe-Ray dies

By YourThurrock  |  Posted: September 25, 2014

Maggie O'Keefe Ray

Maggie O’Keefe Ray


UKIP councillor for Aveley and Uplands, Maggie O’Keefe-Ray has died.

The news was announced by UKIP on Thursday morning.

A spokesperson for UKIP said:

“UKIP Thurrock is sad to inform you that yesterday, 24th September 2014, Cllr Maggie O’Keeffe-Ray passed away.

 

She had been in Queen’s Hospital fighting a brain haemorrhage. Unfortunately the damage was too severe, that despite the best efforts of medical teams at Queen’s, nothing could be done. We would like to thank the teams at Queen’s for all the care and love they showed Maggie in her time there.

Our thoughts and prayers are with her husband Cllr Robert Ray and their family at this time.

Tributes have been paid to Maggie.

Tim Aker MEP, a close friend to Maggie and Robert said “Maggie lit up any room she was in. She had a smile and the time of day for anyone. We are all devastated and upset, but she will want us to soldier on. She will always be with us.”

 

Cllr Graham Snell, leader of the UKIP group on Thurrock council said “Maggie was the heart and soul of our branch. She was always ready with a big hug and a bigger smile.”

At this time, we request that the family are given privacy.

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Greg_L-W..

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GP-GF; Ukip Ferrets Fight On In Their Sack

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 20/01/2015

GP-GF; Ukip Ferrets Fight On In Their Sack
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Guest Post – Guido Fawkes:

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January 20th, 2015

UKIP Hit Puberty: Slam Doors, Shouts at Parents
Farage/Carswell Fall Out Semi-Denied By Party

Tim Aker is the latest victim of the internal UKIP power play: sacked as the party’s policy chief this morning. Or so the spin goes. Guido understands this is less to do with the time he spent on the manifesto and more to do with the continuing debate raging for the ideological life and soul of the party. Between being an MEP and duffing up Labour in Thurrock, it was only a matter of time before Aker stepped back from his party role, but only a fool would suggest he’s not still a serious player within the party.

Rumours also continue to swirl around the tetchy relationship between Nigel Farage and Douglas Carswell. Guido is told there has been something of a breakdown, with particular anger among UKIP top brass over Carswell’s recent off-message Mail on Sunday intervention describing his new party as “internationalist” and “inclusive”. Guido hears Farage believes that to be “Cameroon nonsense”. This piece written by Nick Wood, the former IDS spinner turned Farage-confident, has been circulated within party circles as the UKIP leader’s real opinion:

“Various BBC-type Aunt Sallies were erected only to be assailed by the heroic St Douglas. “We must stop insulting immigrants,” asserted the hair-shirted one. “Dislike of foreigners is not merely offensive, but absurd.” Various other Harmanesque pieties followed, including the laughable observation that there has never been anything splendid about isolation. How about May 1940 after the fall of Paris? Our “isolation” then proved the salvation of Western civilisation.”

Long-serving, more traditional, golf clubbing UKIP veterans are said to be “upset” by Carswell’s maverick modernising moves, and things are so bad that they sneeringly call him “that Tory” behind his back. Rumours of a split at the top are denied by Farage’s spokesman: “we all absolutely adore Douglas”. But when were they last seen together?

To which I respond, to add clarity, for those who may be a little out of touch with the Ukip ferrets as they continue their squabbling inside their sack – visibly tossing out dead ferrets and whilst consuming others to hide the evidence of how vicious the fight for control is!
Hi,

Ukip is neither big enough intellectually, nor has it adequate gravitas or vision, to contain the egos and ambitions of Nigel Farage, Reckwell & Carless (O’Flynn, Nuttall etc. etc.).

Ukip has been Nigel Farage’s private fiefdom ruled in an absolute and underhand manner for many years, more of a cult than a party, and for the party to grow and stand any chance of breaking through its own glass ceiling of populism; for some time the squabbling and fractures can be swept under the carpet, but will eventually lead to blood on the carpet from a knock down drag ’em out fight for control that will destroy the idea of being a political party of any consequence.

The waring factions have been hard at it since the days of Sked and clearly to date the Faragista cult has held the upper hand by ruthless centralisation and control that has seen 100s of good people leave CLICK HERE, which has greatly weakened the party concept to ensure Farage’s continued ascendancy, for more details read my blog and CLICK HERE.

The manner of the Carless/Reckwell departure will benight Ukip oncemore, but will it be before or after the election and will the investigation into Annabelle Fuller’s theft, under National Security, and her apparent lies about Andrew Bridgen expose the truth and involve Nigel Farage is a telling part of the equation!
For more details CLICK HERE

So far it would seem Farage has the upper hand, having forced Stuart Wheeler to break cover over his backing of Neil Hamilton and his support for Carswell as a new leader – seeking to befoul the party in the first instance and clear out the cult in the second!

The squabbling will continue and would seem to have cost Ukip the funding of both Stuart Wheeler and, to quote Farage’s nick name for him, The Yorkshire Dwarf!

This has led to the need to accept funding from various dubious sources as well documented, not least that of Richard Desmond who would seem to have converted his Express newspaper to being the in house comic for Ukip, where it was shown to be no more than a squalid rag by Patrick O’Flynn’s prostitution of the paper to satiate his ambitions as an MEP leading another of Ukip’s waring factions!

Hey ho – may you live in interesting times, but sadly this greatly destabilises British politics and makes the possibility of Leaving_The_EU in any foreseable time frame less likely due in the main to Ukip’s pursuit of personal glory for one cult or the other!

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

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