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An MA Pol/Econ at Hull seems not to require veracity!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/05/2012

An MA Pol/Econ at Hull seems not to require veracity!
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An MA Pol/Econ at Hull seems not to require veracity!

OR MANNERS it would seem from the lad’s response!!

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Hi,
I was interested to read a particularly adulatory blog by one:
David Downing is a student of economics, history and politics and planning to pursue a Master’s degree from the University of Hull, England. He has interned for Alan Duncan, a Conservative lawmaker who stood for the party leadership in 2005. David has also served as an elected council official in the borough of Melton in northeastern Leicestershire.
To quote his own publicity at CLICK HEREI felt it incumbent on me, having read his staggeringly naive blog, to comment thus:
Hi,I’m afraid you are woefully misinformed and if you really expect s casreer in politics it obviously won’t matter if you are presenting fantasy as most politicians do!Your first error was in stating that Farage’s party averaged 13 percent in the recent local elections – this is not true, they average 5%.It is true to say they averaged 13% in the minority seats where they were able to muster candidates!

Consider the facts:
There were 4,987 seats available by election
of those UKIP was able to find candidates for 700
of those 9 were elected.

No with such a risible result after 20 years and with 1.96% of the vote for London Mayor I do believe you are being staggeringly naiive but optimism based on inexperience is not the preserve of the young!

UKIP had a truly catastrophic result in the recent elections, primarily due to utterly inept leadership in fact incompetent leadership that has been astonishingly unprofessional.

It may surprise you that in 20 years, despite advocating a policy of campaigning to Leave-The-EU Farage’s inept leadership team have failed to mount a single solitary campaign of any note, not a petition, not a single meaningfull training session, a woefull lack of briefing papers and absolutely no exit and survival strategy.

For all that they criticise the EU for the lack of transparency of its accounts neither Farage nor UKIP have EVER published transparent accounts – despite a promise that UKIP MEPs would all publish their accounts yet neither Farage or any of his MEPs has ever done so!

An undertaking was given for and on behalf of UKIP by Farage that no UKIP MEP would practice nepotism or employ members of their staff and it was not until Daniel Foggo then of The Sunday Times, published the facts that either UKIP members or it seems Farage’s colleagues became aware that he was paying Kirsten his wife £30.000 a year – yet his own office could name no UKIP or political work done by Kirsten!

Other UKIP MEPs have also employed family members and not declared it!

You speculated on defectors from The Tories joining UKIP – this is but a sad dream and part of the spin and propaganda of UKIP – UKIP has not and will; not attract any politician of gravitas, note or probity under its present inept leadership.

True it may attract the odd councillor of little note and less reputation as it has done to date – similarly discreditted Tory MPs and MEPs who face deselection withing the party may way have one last fling of petty vengeance or futile self importance – vis the discreditted Neil Hamilton or the disafected Roger Helmer who was, many will remember, on recortd supporting the criminality of the UKIP MEP Tom Wise who received a two year prison sentence for defrauding the public purse with an instrument signed by Lindsay Jenkins.

I am concerned that you consider you may be on track for a masters degree with such inept reportage and crass speculation – have they made them that easy of recent years?

Regards,
Greg_L-W.

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  1. I never said that had broken into national politics and please direct me to where int he post I talk about corruption or the possible opaqueness of UKIP. I have merely tried to offer an impartial view. So far

    Lord Hesketh
    Lord Pearson
    MEP Roger Helmer
    Cllr Catherine Bursnall
    Cllr Tom Bursnal
    Lord Willoughby

    and there is according to the UKIP many others in talk about defections.. While I can understand your view of my “speculation” the fact 3 lords one the ex treasurer of the conservative party, have defected to UKIP makes it seem less of speculation and more of a reality.

    Also, you point to the 9 elected out of hte 700, I point to the fact I did not say they had broken through into the main political arena, if you had listened in you English lessons, one would have known that the ? symbol denotes a question.. I was asking whether this year could be the year they break into the mainstream, based on the fact that they polled higher than the Liberal democrats in many recent opinion polls.

    While I may be “woefully misinformed” at least I am not an insular possible xenophobe who actually supports UKIP like yourself and your website on UKIP.

  2. TO WHICH I REPLIED:

  3. Hi,

    you clearly didn’t read anything on my web site.

    Do check out the 3 peers you quote:
    Lord Heskith was on Newsnight a short while ago and has clearly lost most of the plot! He was querulous, uncertain, indestincy and just a name from history – bandiesd around as some sort of trophy but of no visible current political competence.

    Lord Pearson – positioned by his father’s money and clearly of little ability was ‘used’ by Thatcher – his skill would seem to be limited to going out to lunch! A fund raiser who is past his sell by date to judge by his biungled delivery to UKIP. Untrustworthy and dishonest, two faced but clearly informed on sufficient of the details of The EU to show his contempt for membership of the malign social experiment.

    MEP Roger Helmer – announced his retirement but then had a hissy fit when denied the privilege of anointing his successor – withdrew his retirement and in a strange act of vengeance it seems he announced he would join UKIP – he has made a huge and continuous income from the EU and unwisely was a close defender of the criminality of Tom Wise who was sent to prison for 2 years as was Nigel Farage who regularly lied to the public claiming top have dumped Wise – when it was more a case of having little wisdom rather than no Wise!

    The Bursnalls are new comers of little consequence but that has not prevented them from being associated with some particularly crass statements including the suggestion that the vote be witghdraw3n from the unemployed!

    Lord Willoughby de Broke – a long term EUroSceptic who greatest achievement in the field was his excellent web suite of EU idiocies etc. which sadly seems to have been closed. Seems alied with UKIP for no other reason than their claimed EUroScepticism whi8ch sadly seems to be more of a vehicle for the enrichment of its leadership than a reality of campaigning!

    As to your attempt to smear me as xenophobic perhaps from the 1,000s of postings I have made on the internet it behooves you to find a single solitary example to justify your ill researched comment.

    As to your use of ? as with the use of the word ‘Allegedly’ it holds no validity when postulating ill informed rhetorical questions in political debate being merely a febrile cover for ill informed opinion.

    Regards,
    Greg_L-W.

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UKIP MEP Gerard BATTEN, UKIP & Gregory LAUDER-FROST

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 12/05/2012

The Gerard Batten Blog can be found if you CLICK HERE

This posting was made on his blog yesterday, to further inform the public of the behaviour and views of their public servant Gerard Batten a UKIP MEP and openly stated member of The EFD Group in The EU which is led by the UKIP leader Nigel Farage and includes many of the most extreme scum of EU politics including advocates of violence for political gain, racists, anti Jewish, Holocaust deniers, anti homosexuals and similar who Farage leads and profits from!

Friday, 11 May 2012

UKIP MEP Gerard BATTEN, UKIP & Gregory LAUDER-FROST

UKIP MEP Gerard BATTEN, UKIP & Gregory LAUDER-FROST
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UKIP MEP Gerard BATTEN member of the racist, pro EU membership, anti homosexual group of anti Jewish EU Politicians in The EFD Group chaired by Nigel Farage!

& the association thus of UKIP & the criminal Gregory LAUDER-FROST!

Known by some since his 2 year prison sentence for defrauding his Health Service employers as Frauder-Lost!

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Quote Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov View Post
What do you mean by extreme? Can you give practical examples to illustrate issues of extremity that you want to get rid of? …..

Answered on a largely UKIP controlled Forum contrplled and owned by the discreditted Anthony Butcher, briefly an NEC member but clearly out of his depth quit shortly after his election and is currently a parish councillor in Long Ashton near Bristol.

The respondent passes himself off using a fake ID as do many of those posting on Anthony Butcher’s Forum, in many cases such as with the UKIP leadership claque it seems to make it easier for them to lie and defame as with such as Stathan (Kevin Mahoney), Independent UKIP, Skeptyk, Gothmog and other similar cowards and low lifes.

In the case of this correspondent ‘Mjolnir’ he does at least quote extensively from the main stream media:

Well, as examples of extremism go, I think this is pretty good. It is from the Guardian, April 24 1993.

“Worse was to come. In November Lauder-Frost was sent to prison for two years for defrauding the Riverside Health Authority of over £100,000. The money was never recovered. It emerged at the end of his trial that Lauder-Frost was trying to interest an American company in buying arms from Russia. In a letter to the company, he said: “I attach a list of military equipment immediately available from Russia. Some of the items on this faxed list sent to me direct from my people there are bound to raise your eyebrows. However, I am told all are genuine. Prices are in US dollars and I am of the opinion that you could knock them down considerably. “

You, BvL, will now attack the messenger, and come back with something like “Oh, but thats the Guardian, and they are fascist cultural Marxists” or some such rubbish. But BvL, as much as you may attack the messenger, the facts stand up for themselves.

I will show my hand a wee bit here, and say that Lauder-Frost was a concern to HMG prior to this. The Evening Standard even picked up on this, and on April7 1992 they printed: “Until recently, the Secretary General of the Monarchist League, Gregory Lauder-Frost, who was dismissed from his duties as payroll operations manager at Charing Cross Hospital in January, is bracing himself for a fresh challenge. He is to forge a new life in Russia, holing up in a 12-bedroom residence in St Petersburg.” That was what we might call a warning shot across the bows, to give a heads up to his Tory chums who might not have fully appreciated who he was. HMG knew exactly what his aspirations were.

We know that Lauder-Frost was a member of the BNP – an e-mail apologising that he could not be an active member of the BNP’s London region because he spent a lot of time in Scotland exists. We also know that he was a member of UKIP. If he still is, I don’t know. He is certainly “well aquainted” with UKIP MEP Gerard Batten.
To view the original article exposing Gerard Batten’s criminal associate Gregory Lauder-Frost CLICK HERE

There is no shortage of provenance of Gerard Batten’s friend Gregory Lauder-Frost being an extremist as a BNP member and associated with other criminals see CLICK HERE

Clearly Gerard Batten’s association with individuals such as this and the organisations they ‘frequent’ and promote can not for a moment be seen as responsible in the light of his highly paid public duties which are brought into disrepute by his behaviour and his overt apparent incitement to racial hatred by publication of generalist rants against British citizens and others who do not share his personal fears and superstitions passing as a religion.

Gerard Batten’s espousal of condemnation of the views of Muslims may be at varience with his chosen superstition but to try to foment problems in this area is no part of his elected responsibility to campaign to Leave-The-EU and mounting personal attacks on British citizens is nothing more less than an abuse4 of his position and that it tends to foment racial hatred is beneath contempt.

Regards,
Greg_L-W.
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