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#0254* – UKIP, ENSURING VERITY Re Jill SEYMORE

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 13/01/2011

#0254* – UKIP, ENSURING VERITY Re Jill SEYMORE!  
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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UKIP, ENSURING VERITY Re Jill SEYMORE!
& HIGHLIGHTING DISHONESTY AMONGST ITS LEADERSHIP CLAQUE!

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 Hi,

on 09-Jan-2011 I made the following posting prompted by the dishonest and cowardly lies, distortions and misrepresentation by some chubby nebish in UKIP.

Please note with care what I actually said and that which I quoted to prove my point.

Please read the article and my comments added at the end below:

The LARD FILLED LIES of UKIP’s COWARDLY PALTROON Steve MARSON!
Another in the sordid claque of fools, liars and cheats with Douglas DENNY, Mike McGOUGH etc.!

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Quote Originally Posted by douglas denny View Post
…It provides a good explanation for those who wonder why it is that there are some like Niall Warry here on this forum, and GLW and ‘Junius‘ on other ‘dedicated’ blogs; who persist in writing on a daily basis
Here is why since the idiot has not noticed:
Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! .
The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
the same actually uninformative propaganda,

Do tell where there is as readily available a continuum of facts in date order about UKIP and its corrupt leadership!

mostly lies
In 1,000s of Blog postings neither the dishonest Douglas Denny nor a single one of UKIP’s leadership team have EVER identified a single solitary instance to support their dishonest claim that I have lied, or acted dishonestly in any way even losing their Court case fronted by Mark Croucher yet too dishonourable to pay their just debts.

UKIP’s leadership’s understanding of morality, integrity, probity or ethics could be written on the back of a postage stamp with a felt tipped pen!

Douglas Denny has yet again lied and yet again can show absolutely no example of dishonesty on my part – whilst his dishonesty is well documented CLICK HERE

interspaced with reasonable information to give the illusion of credibility, which is mostly unmitigated drivel without any sort of obvious motivation other than what appears insanity or obsessive compulsive disorder.
Sadly this odious little man is a frequent spokesperson for UKIP’s leadership endlessly bringing them into disrepute as he drags UKIP’s name into the gutter he clearly feels at home in!

Steve Morson comments:

Interesting. I wish the British govt. would follow the Russian example, it might take our minds off how dire our circumstances are, and how ill-equipped the whey-faced poltroons that comprise our govt. are to deal with it!
As for Neil Warry, what he writes are opinions based on a certain prejudice (I don’t think he’s a huge Nigel fan!). 

That Niall Warry, based upon many years of supporting UKIP, having been Chairman of UKIP Wales and subsequently when he moved Chairman of Cheltenham and organiser of the annual fund raiser with Jamie Neidpath at his estate – perhaps the Chairman of UKIP Bromsgrove could tell us by what authority and why in clear incompetence he presumes to dissemble and lie.

What experience has the foolish fellow besides providing much bulk, that he can provide as he has clearly had little experience and little service and little relevance beyond his local role and standing hopelessly as a PPC!

But GLW / Junius is a different kettle of fish. I’ve taken to renaming them ‘bogs’, 

This silly wee fatty may call it what he likes if it gives him the courage to act in any way of value but clearly it just emboldens him to display his own dishonesty as he tries to show off!

because of what you usually find in (almost all of) them. 

Clearly Steve Morson knows little of UKIP or its leadership as he fails to understand what he reads in this Blog or Junius.

I’ve hardly ever seen Junius report anything close to facts; for example: the day after the Birmingham leadership hustings, Junius reported that Jill Seymour had been asked to be party Secretary.

Well……no! As announced to the meeting, Secretary of the Party Fundraising Committee. Never let the facts….

No indeed this foolish fat little fellow has no intention of letting the facts get in the way of his idiotic comments – just look at this fine specimen and he talks of ‘whey-faced paltroons’ perhaps lard faced liars might suit him better!
For this is what Junius actually said:

Nigel Farage & Jill Seymour

So Farage does have a sense of humour! How we laughed when we heard the news!

Farage told some UKIPPERS at the West Midlands hustings that Jill Seymour would make a good UKIP Party Secretary!

Ms Seymour is a former barmaid who had the good luck to marry a very rich customer. She is best known for being bloody useless on the NEC. Her husband financed the disasterous HMS Belfast UKIP fund raising event.

She did work for Nikki Sinclaire but her inability to write even a single coherent sentence forced the West Midlands MEP to let her go.

Ms Seymour is sadly infatuated with and by Nigel. Nigel regards her as a good nodding donkey.

We sincerely hope that Farage’s suggestion was in fact a joke or just a ‘sop’ to buy leadership votes in the West Midlands!

Junius is blatant anti-UKIP propaganda, as seen in the run-up to the election on 5th May, it was against the whole party not just the “corrupt leadership”. I think people, generally, are intelligent enough to see it as such.

Clearly Steve Marson this tub of lard this paltroon does indeed fail to have the intelligence to keep his counsel rather than show himself to be so dishonest and cowardly – he can be expected to lack the courage to apologise for his outright and clearly deliberate lies and dishonesty.
Fear not my porcine pal for you are in good company with liars like McGough, Denny and their vile ilk.

In good company with the other cheats, liars and whey faced tubs of lard and paltroons on Butcher’s sordid little UKIP managed Forum.

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The original as quoted above can be found if you CLICK HERE

May I make it very clear that I did NOT claim Jill Seymore was a barmaid in derogatory terms as I know that it is about 30 years since she was a barmaid and had taken on the job part time to supplement the income of her full time job.

It is also noted that Farage did in fact propose Jill Seymore at The Hustings in question as a Party Secretary for the UKIP Patrons Club at the hustings, and in no way was it reflecting the Party’s legal Secretary.

Further I understand that Jill Seymore resigned from the employ of Nikki Sinclaire to reassume her NEC seat, which was precluded by nature of her employment.

I believe that I have made these corrections previously when I quoted the blog which I have included in that posting.

Had Steve Marson not seen fit to lie and defame me, following the dishonest lead of corrupt individuals like Douglas Denny & Mike McGough of UKIP’s NEC and the leadership parasite and untrustworthy low life scum Skeptyk whose track record for revealing his odious personality and befouling what little reputation UKIP’s leadership can muster is plain for all to see.

Had the lard filled whey faced paltroon Steve Marson not lied I would not have quoted the posting in question verbatim as I have made correction of it previously.

I do apologise if in copying this once again, without correction, my posting has caused embarrassment as honest members of UKIP who read this blog will be all too well aware that I vigorously seek to check and ensure the facts I publish on this blog and have a near 100% track record over many years for scrupulous honesty – an attribute filth like Skeptyk, Denny, Croucher, McGough seem never to have even tried to aspire to.

Huge damage is done to the reputation of UKIP as a Party by the likes of Douglas Denny, Mike McGough, Skeptyk, Baron, Stuart Parr, Mark Croucher, Steve Marson and others like them who, in the misguided belief they are being clever, so hugely demean the party with their undeniable dishonesty, serial bullying and abusing of members and supporters of UKIP and the quite childish fantasies they pretend to as with the sad spectacle of Douglas Denny’s Bigglesesque agent provocateurs and clearly astounding belief that he has any relevance whatever to such bodies as the security services!

How can these dellusional and unsavoury characters be seen to be of consequence to UKIP when they do such damage and show UKIP leadership to be defended by the gutter and of the gutter!
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#0253* – Ian GILMAN of UKIP NEC Casts a Little Light on UKIP CRIMINALITY

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 13/01/2011

#0253* – Ian GILMAN of UKIP NEC Casts a Little Light on UKIP CRIMINALITY! .
Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! .
The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name! .
Ian GILMAN of UKIP NEC Casts a Little Light on UKIP CRIMINALITY!
Ian GILMAN Exposes some details re: Tom WISE UKIP MEP,
as he remembers them!

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Hi,

To QUOTE Ian Gilman re: Tom Wise UKIP MEP jailed for his criminality for 2 years – you may make what you will of Ian Gilman’s statement regarding Tom Wise and UKIP leadership corrupion amongst its leadership and their parasites in betrayal of the many decent members:

The case of the corrupt and jailed former police officer and UKIP M.E.P. Tom Wise Esq. again raises its head.
In October 2005; I was the only NEC member to attempt to do something about Mr. Wise following publicity and gossip about his activities. I was systematically blocked and prevented.
Minutes from that NEC should show my perhaps twenty minutes of effort on behalf of the members who we claimed to protect.
Abuse was heaped upon me together with shouted requests that I must be “shut up”.
Frauds were explained that would cause the Inland Revenue and Police to investigate and jail numerous UKIP members if revealed, and I being perhaps ‘jointly and severally liable’ for matters that I knew nothing about decided to step aside. Why after all; should I be responsible for others crimes as described ?
I was a volunteer for 15 years who asked for and took nothing from ukip, only satisfaction that I and others believed that we were doing our duty by our country and its history.
Please refer to the thread last August ‘ Bloom blast for shoplifters’ to understand much that I am writing about. It will prevent repitition. Mr . Denny provoked the defence of my position.
In attempting to actually discipline Mr. Wise who had for example destroyed the legitimate NEC approved ‘UKIP Wine World ‘ (conceived by me to assist paying our General Election debts of £ 93,000) from which no monies can be identified despite Mr Wise describing his importation and storage of 1,000 bottles of fine wines ( a commercial quantity ) perhaps from The Lebanon and his friends vineyard then sales via ukip meetings and membership lists; I was opposed with such venamence as to realise that I had no place any longer at that table.
Further; the dark threats emanating from that meeting indicated that eventually matters affecting the volunteer membership , many of whom were/are pensioners and our funds would legitimatly cause some to be jailed or fined.
My legalally constituted UKIP Wine World (named by me) involved proper Customs & Excise paperwork, sales sheets/distribution sheets and monthly payments electronically to UKIP H.Q.
It would satisfy the treasurer/auditor/Electoral Commissioners/Customs& Excise.
Concerning Mr. Colman’s enquiry; I wonder if his terms of reference were drawn so narrow so as to preclude most of that which was actually relevant.
I was never requested to give evidence; despite speaking to Mr Colman about matters.
Incredibly, when Mr Wise was referred to British Police his home force Beds. was given the task.
Why ?
Traditionally the Metropolitan police handle such cases.
With the close association that Mr. Wise had with Beds police as described by him; why did they not immediately hand over to another force the case which broke in 09/05 and concluded in 11/09 !
I will now quote directly from the file as originally constructed / evidence bagged and numbered and signitures upon a legal statement identifying its existance for identification. Later as far as I understood it should have all been contained within the file named Regina v Thomas Harold Wise. This will be held by Beds. police, C.P.S., Southwark Crown Court and I gather The Justice Dept. The Home Office and aparently Number 10 Downing Street.
“Wise explained to ***** all about his frauds /embezzlements of public money…..”
“Wise had not only explained his frauds, he then explained that he is safe from prosecution”
“Wise claimed to have lots of contacts within Bedfordshire Police, including “high up contacts “, whatever that means “
Wise, stated *****, claims to enjoy protection and will not be prosecuted.”
“Wise claimed to have met and talked with The Chief Constable of Beds. “
“Wise claims to have visited Beds Police H.Q. and spoken with those who would investigate him and to have been assurred that he will not be investigated “.
” ***** invoked the social life/circle of Wise who enjoys a drinking / eating circle of greedy sycophants who probably patronise The Ship public house in Linslade, Leighton Buzzard Beds ( Wing Road in fact maybe 200 yards around from his house ) . Excess of indulgance evidently being the motivating factor. “
“Wise likes to invoke the fact that he is a former police officer “
“Wise gave to former Detective Superintendent Trevor Colman of Devon and Cornwall Police a statement early in 2006 admitting everything yet is confident that he cannot be prosecuted”
Thus in fact Mr Wise evidently labourd in the belief that he was immune.
So, where did this leave the hapless witnesses ?
Detective Chief Superintendant Miss Debbie Simpson headed Beds police Economic Investigation Unit.
We are told that she is ‘partnered’ and that her ‘partner’ was found employment there too.
Her partner was a police officer in Beds.
Her partners father is explained as a previously a Beds police Superintendant.
He is married to the previous Chief Constables Secretary.
The Chief Constables secretary has hourly and daily access to The Chief Constable who the reader will see from the above direct quotes from the file as originally constructed is described as rather too close to the defendant.
Nothing is implied by the above, only reported facts are written. Without Prejudice.
Why, oh why did Beds Police not hand this case over to another force ?
Surveillance by me due to concerns about my own security and legal position in a corruption case that had odd aspects to it involved the Ship Road, Wing Road areas of Linslade and divers areas around Leighton Buzzard. Woburn Road , Kempston Beds. areas too and those working there too formed part of my investigative personal protection.
Threats to me and criminal damage and tracing of; with two nasty telephone calls to my then recently widowed mother ( different telephone area to me ) alarmed me too.
Given everything supplied to Beds. police ,
Where is the wine world monies generated by Mr Wise ?
Where were its first bankings ?
Were there any onward transfers / sharing of that money ?
Where has the treasurer accounted for that money ?
Was the auditor satisfied with the accounting, and Electoral Commissioners too ?
Why immediately upon being offered the Wise case did Beds police Chief Constable not declare not only the forces interests in matters but the Economic Investigation Unit’s association too ?
What was the role of Detective Inspector Shane Roberts ?
Please name all officers friendly with or within the circle of Mr Wise, to include the drinking/dining set as described and on file ?
Did any officer have to move departments/ accept transfers tempoary or permanent during this case ?
Was any police officer/retired officer or police authority employee in the habbit of buying wine from Mr Wise ?
What is the import licence number of Mr. Wise’s wine business ?
Which bonded warehouse, and owned by whom stored the wine imported as decsribed by him ?
Was customs VAT paid on the wine, and to which office ?
When a complaint was made to Beds police about the case (not me ) why again was an internal officer Det. Insp. Green given the job, an outside force surely should have looked at this ?
When a complaint was made to Beds police authority and Miss Stephany McMenamy (described as completly out of her depth) why did she not refer it to an outside force ?
Why then were (by now) three, yes 3 investigations concerning former police officer Mr. Wise retained within Beds and not referred out to completly neutral officers where Mr Wise could never ever make claims of friendship and perhaps forms of influence; or friendships made through an interest in wine. ?
I went to another police force who became so concerned about matters that they ” called for the papers” that is the Wise file in order to read and understand it.
At a later meeting a Detective Inspector changed his attitude to me , having read the file and brushed me off with ” not in the public interest ” to pursue this, despite the intimidation of my mother and myself,. Did he actually mean not in the interest of police officers careers ?
As I explained to him, that intimidation never prevented me doing my duty and presenting evidence to a court, and seeking to protect UKIP members and their funds. Why was he now so scarred ?
Why have requests under the Freedom of Information Act affecting this case from two police forces been blocked ?
Why do those forces appear to collude and use the same letters ?
Why were police officers identified by Mr Wise not interviewed/cautioned and statements taken?
Were witnesses warned by the police about the claims of closness made by Mr Wise placed upon file in evidence bags and the liklihood of trouble if they persisted with their evidence ?
Were all statements taken of a professional quality admissable in court, or was theredisquiet about the effot put in to produce evidence that witnesses could sign for and stand in court under oath ?
Why has it been reported and circulated ( I can only repeat that explained to me ) that as he entered court Mr Wise Mr Wise was heard to say to his fellow defendant ‘ dont worry your pretty little head about this case deary, I am a friend of The Chief Constable’
Why then, if the reports are anywhere near accurate was the case not stopped and immediately referred to the Police Complaints Commission and another police force ?
Why have all attempts to obtain documents about this case been blocked and thus civil actions prevented ?
During the 4 year 2 month enquiries were Mr Wise’s computer systems properly opened and contents thoroughly investigated ?
Lord Ted Willis liked to talk about ‘The Long Arm of the Law, but perhaps here Ancient Greece that gave to us the Demos that we fought and gave so much to preserve can play a part.

The Hydra is my metaphor, the ghastly many headed beast perhaps adequatly reflects the many aspects of corruption that pervades matters. How sad..

The original can be found amongst the very questionable and largely dishonest ramblings hosted by Anthony Butcher on his Forum in accord with the instructions of UKIP leadership.

I can confirm most of what Ian Gilman is claiming based upon my own involvement during the period in question and my direct involvement in seeking to bring Tom Wise to Justice and thus to jail.

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#0252* – Understanding Why UKIP Keeps Failing!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 13/01/2011

#0252* – Understanding Why UKIP Keeps Failing!
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Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable! 
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The corruption of EUkip’s leadership
their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
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Understanding Why UKIP Keeps Failing!!!

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as a long term UKIP supporter it was sad to watch this on the eve of polling day – it makes clear why UKIP under its present leadership is going nowhere.

Watch this clip placed on the internet late on Tuesday by UKIP as an exemplar of UKIP.

Watch the clip first and then see if you can see the very clear patern or why without competent leadership UKIP is clearly going nowhere and has become sadly a part of the problem and no part of the solution – with or without Stuart Wheeler‘s money – I do not believe that the British public are for sale to an alien centralised undemocratic EU based authority any more than BUYING their liberty, sovereignty, democracy, justice and well being can be bought back by an injection of cash.

Stuart Wheeler may be able to afford ‘Danegeld‘ but be assured Nigel Farage as leader is no King Ethel who had no need of reed that he was called Ethel The UnReedy as he had vision and superlative financial management skills.

Throughout his reign King Ethel mustered Danegeld without increasing taxes and he defended our shores without the advice of his reeds or Advisors. It was when he was forced by age and infirmity to succumb to the leadership parasites that when he died Cnut of Denmark was able to invade our Country and in contempt of the sicophants and Reeds he was surrounded by and to show them for the fools they are he displayed he was NOT omnipotent.

When King Cnut moved his throne to the low tide line and ordered the sea back he clearly showed his strength confidence and vision.

I believe that UKIP’s present leadership and its parasites lack the vision lack the competence and lack morality lurching endlessly dependent on the stupidity of others from election to election with last minute donations of Danegeld to keep the show on the road without planning or competence – No vision, as we see in this clip.

Farage may be an excellent performer at times but there is no doubt he is more liability than gain as he lacks a leader and it is he who needs a leader so that as ever drink in hand he can make his case for someone of gravitas, morality, probity and consequence to capitalise on for Britain.

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