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#0123* – UKIP’s SPOILER IS THE THIRD BUS – SET TO YET AGAIN PICK UP FEW PASSENGERS!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 25/09/2010

#0123* – UKIP’s SPOILER IS THE THIRD BUS – 
SET TO YET AGAIN PICK UP FEW PASSENGERS!

Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable!
The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
 their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
UKIP’s SPOILER IS THE THIRD BUS 
– SET TO YET AGAIN PICK UP FEW PASSENGERS!
UKIP’s LAST TWO SEEM TO HAVE BEEN SCAMS!

Hi,

two complimentary Buses with different and complimentary routes to the same destination and a rag tag of fly by night taxis trying to pick up funding and a few bewildered passengers put out by The UKIP Garage.

Should that be UKIP‘s Farage as the last two petitions he has been party to were nothing more than blatant scams.

They were NEVER delivered and the £1/4 Million of tax payers money that went into one was never accounted, and seems to have vanished into the pockets of those responsible, as did possibly £1+ million or more from the Ashford scam, seemingly founded on the addresses garnered from the petition, and a breech of the ethics of Data Protection!

It is worrying that even after the huge amount of money that went missing unaccounted from Ashford where even David Bannerman as Farage’s puppet chairman admitted there had been no control and less than 15% of the money collected for UKIP ever reached the party, whether that included the money laundered through Graham Booth’s hotel accounts he did not specify!!

To see the same team – Farage, Bannerman and Croucher (with Lott once more, presumably again using the data base – mailing out letters to promote Farage’s financial interests) all merrily launching a new fleet of ‘dodgey taxis’ but even more purturbingly doing it in a childish and petulent assault on The Peoples’ Petition because it is run by Nikki Sinclaire MEP, aided now by Mike Nattrass MEP and The EU Referendum Campaign because James Pryor and Bridget Rowe set it up and Dan Hannan MEP and Paul Nuttall MEP have joined it!!

You will even note that Farage has his team all working closely together for his re-election, and clearly states NOTHING about a petition but openly advocates a call center. Be minded when he pronounced that Ashford was the most successful thing UKIP has ever done yet, to the press, for whom one must ask, as 85% of the money raised AT LEAST would seem to have vanished! We note he clearly states his intention to set up another ‘Call Center’!

You may care to note that since the article below was written it has been agreed that http://TheMidnightGroup.Blogspot.com form a point of referrence for GENUINE petitions and although JUNIUS somewhat harshy claims Farage was refused participation – strictly that is not true just as he was not refiused co-operation with Libertas and Declan Ganley it seems there he was refused access to the funds and with The EURC hethey were not willing to put him in charge!

So like a spoilt child he registered Libertas at Companies House to try to blackmail declan Ganley – he failed (as of course did Ganley but little wonder!).

It looks like de Ja Vu all over again! Farage is acting like a spoilt child and using UKIP to try to run a spoiler annoyed that those who have moved onno longer enthralled watching him feather his own nest at the expense of Britain and UKIP.

What must particularly annoy is that The Peoples’ Petition is already up to about 20,000 (exact No. not counted as they have only counted full sheets of 10 signatures those with 9 0r less have not been counted and are slowly being filled by incoming phone calls – the estimated 20,000 I am assured is a fair judgement) – either way that outstrips Farage’s previous petitions!

The aim is to get the first 100,000 and deliver them to Drowning Street and the certificate of delivery with the petition to The Speaker’s Chair as demanded by our democracy. It is expected that the donations already in on top of Ms. Sinclaire’s substantial personal contribution will now put The Peoples’ Petition in a self liquidating position to advertise to back and promote the achievement with the second and subsequent 100,000s progressively easier to obtain as the public catch on.

Meanwhile the efforts of The EURC ploughs its own complimentary furrow working with The Peoples’ Petition but aimed at solid promotion of the need for a referendum on In or OUT of The EU with politicians, Councils, Commerce and big businesses – already Labour EUro Safeguards Campaign is on board as are The Boo Group and representatives of major Trades Unions.

Please enlarge this form to the appropriate size and print off a few to get filled in by family and friends – neighbours and work mates – maybe even strangers!!

For details of how YOU can help and participate CLICK HERE

The Third Bus

Author: Andy Carling
12 September 2010 – Issue : 902

The Brits, with their characteristic downbeat outlook have a saying, “you wait forever for a bus and then three arrive at the same time”. A situation that anyone who has been hanging around Place Luxembourg can relate to. 
And so, it applies to referendum petitions. The British eurosceptics, peeved at being denied a referendum on Lisbon have been racing to organize campaigns, asking the Brits to sign petitions asking for a referendum on EU

So far, three have turned up. It’s uncertain how many more are due.

First out the starting gate was Nikki Sinclaire MEP, who left the EFD Group because of what she saw as anti-semitism and homophobia amongst its members. Her campaign, which she dubs ‘the people’s petition’ is trying to raise 100,000 signatures. She argues that the UK is neither in, nor outside the EU and a referendum on membership will provide a firm position for the country’s future relationship with Europe, either inside or outside the union.

She is touring the UK garnering signatures. She claims to have had 10,000 in the first week of campaigning.

UKIP responded to this by launching a referendum petition of their own their third in recent years. One that closed in 2008 had 10,782, another one, launched in November 2009, seems to have disappeared. It remains to be seen how the latest will do, but there doesn’t seem to be much promotion behind it and it is said that some UKIP people are a little embarrassed about launching a second petition.

Enter Dan Hannan. He has launched a third petition. This is the slickest of them all, and possibly crucially, has support from the left and right. The move, which announces itself as a “ballsy, cutting edge campaign” is getting the most press and is a much more professional effort, even though it was the last one off the ground. They say that, “It’s a sad fact that Britain is sleepwalking into the European Super-State and Britain must wake up to the nightmares hiding under the sheets of Brussels. EU laws and directives made without our knowledge or consent, behind locked doors of the most complicated clauses and sub-clauses imaginable.”

Sadly, there is no joint campaign against cliches and tired metaphors. To view the full article CLICK HERE as it seems there is also no joint campaign for tired associations to fill column inches!

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#0122* – UKIP Go To War? Paint Balls At Dawn? NO, Too serious for another UKIP stunt!!

Posted by Greg Lance - Watkins (Greg_L-W) on 25/09/2010

#0122* – UKIP Go To War? Paint Balls At Dawn? NO, Too serious for another UKIP stunt!! 

Clean EUkip up NOW make UKIP electable!
The corruption of EUkip’s leadership, 
 their anti UKIP claque in POWER & the NEC 
is what gives the remaining 10% a bad name!
UKIP Go To War? 
Paint Balls At Dawn? 
No NOT A comment on Godfrey, Gawain, Bannerman or Farage!
NO, Too serious for yet another Croucher/Farage UKIP stunt!

THIS is about who controls the money!!

Hi,

fossiking around the internet, as is my wont, I tripped over this entry on a blog and responses that may interest or even inform you the original is at: CLICK HERE if you wish to read more or to join his conversation.

UKIP Go To War?

The Talking Clock posts that Gerard Batten has formed an electoral pact with Tim Congdon, the latter who is standing for Leader – and that as part of this ‘pact’ Gerard Batten has withdrawn his candidacy for that position.

In a brief form of the statement, Tim Congdon tells potential supporters: “Tim Congdon and Gerard Batten have announced that they will be working together in a joint bid for the leadership of the UK Independence Party. Gerard Batten has decided to stand down and to support the candidature of Tim Congdon. If Tim Congdon is elected Leader of the UK Independence Party, he will appoint Gerard Batten as Deputy Leader and Head of Policy Development.

Follow the links in TTC’s post to read the statements by Batten and Congdon.

So now we will have the Farage/Nuttall camps in open warfare with the Batten/Congdon camps.

TTC ends his post:

This is a race that just got a darn sight more interesting…

And, I would venture, ‘bloody’………….. FFS UKIP!


Blogger James Higham said…

That sort of thing is hardly helpful.

24 September 2010 21:53
Blogger The Talking Clock said…
Thank you for the generous hat-tip.I’m hoping that the characters do not resort to internal warfare and hope that any – cough – ‘positioning’ of individual characters stays in the realm of private debate rather than bursting into the public domain.I have met all three of the declared and known candidates for my interview series and, while all three are very different in terms of personality, they were all incredibly warm and kind people.It’s for that latter reason that I *hope* that the gentlemen in the race can maintain a generous, fair and healthy contest. I’m optimistic that they will…

24 September 2010 21:58
Blogger Witterings From Witney said…
JH – As they say, I do know that (only too well).TTC – my pleasure. Unfortunately I believe your wishes are misplaced – seen it all before. Yes all three are reasonable men but………there will be blood!

24 September 2010 22:05

Blogger Autonomous Mind said…

A new cenre-right party without the ‘single issue’ baggage is required now.

24 September 2010 22:21
Blogger Witterings From Witney said…
AM, agreed. However UKIP do possess those policies but it seems that rather than promote them they would rather have a bloodbath. I say that with heavy heart in the I support their policies entirely – they most definitely are centre right.As to your suggestion/conclusion – fine, how do we start one and who heads it? You can forget Hannan and Carswell – they are too wedded to their careers and I have virtually given up on them.

24 September 2010 22:34

Blogger Greg_L-W. said…

Hi,I incline to agree with TTC and commend his comment:I *hope* that the gentlemen in the race can maintain a generous, fair and healthy contest.I’m not optimistic that he will be able to and thus in the face of the usual barage of smearing and deception – already started with abuse of staff and phone calls and the positioning of campaign managers and a toady as opposition to split the vote and prevent a fair fight I would hazard a prediction that it is all over bar the sneering& that was UKIP!There is absolutely no value in ANY Party from now on as our laws are made by our enemies at worst rivals at best.There is no value in discussion of policies that can NEVER be implemented whilst in The EU – and be minded NO PARTY has ever put forward an Exit & Survival Strategy.It will take 10 years from when we leave to be in a position to consider our own policies so play all you like at being political but without Leave-the-EU as a basis you are wasting yours and everyone else’s time and working for the enemy.Have a look at www.Leave-the-EU.org.UK on google and http://TheMidnightGroup.blogspot.com likewise.There are no answers but there is a step forward YOU can help build.When THE Gentleman in the UKIP blood bath wakes up perhaps he would care to come and help us do something constructive – UKIP is a part of the problem and offers no part of the solution.Regards,Greg_L-W.

25 September 2010 21:58

  

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